allen return not permanent?

24-5-2011 10:38

SK Gaming manager Anton "budak" Budak has informed fragbite.se that Jimmy "allen" Allen's return might just be for the Swedish WCG qualifier.

Yesterday, SK Gaming announced that Allen would return to activity in their Counter-Strike roster, and praised Dennis "dennis" Edman for his efforts during his short stay.

The German-based organization furthermore revealed that Allen's next show will be the next preliminary stage in the Swedish World Cyber Games qualifier.

While the release of Edman and the return of Allen indicated that it was a permanent move, it now turns out the story might end in a different manner.

Anton "budak" Budak has informed fragbite.se that Allen will only act as a stand-in during the qualifier, which means he could very well be set to leave again after their upcoming appearance.

Upon releasing the former Playzone talent, SK Gaming's team manager Tim "merusame" Ellersiek said the reasons to his release were "extremely complex".

Stay tuned to HLTV.org as we will continue to keep you updated about the recent change in SK Gaming.

WTF ?! not smart moves by SK

2011-05-24 10:38

6 replies

i love sk, but, they rarely make smart moves.

2011-05-24 10:43

5 replies

2011-05-24 10:50

2 replies

Sk is one big joke

2011-05-24 14:23

1 reply

DO u even realise DENNIS IS KICKASS?. he pwned and was a major player all these days.. i dont remember which tournament, but i saw one few months back. when SK kept Failing, he kept winning for them ! consistent fuck he is. they should be a joke for releasing DENNIS.

2011-05-26 02:54

hahahah

2011-05-24 17:25

i love sk too, but it is better to dennis=D

2011-05-24 19:13

LOL

2011-05-24 10:39

Rofl SK.cs is like the most fucking unstable professional cs team

2011-05-24 10:39

1 reply

u r so right mate !

2011-05-24 15:16

i dont understand y dennis is praised so much by everyone :X

2011-05-24 10:39

whats going on here

2011-05-24 10:40

So no dennis and no allen or what?

2011-05-24 10:40

15 replies

Heaton

2011-05-24 11:42

4 replies

that would be awesome :)

2011-05-24 11:53

3 replies

LAWL.

2011-05-24 11:57

2011-05-24 15:07

1 reply

learn english if you dont understand it :(

2011-05-24 16:42

they should take manne or moddii .. a real strong player

2011-05-24 12:29

5 replies

they kicked moddii some time ago, cuz hes too much of a selfish player :P but now he shows that they shouldn't have kicked him out, they made a huge mistake by doing that

2011-05-24 12:48

4 replies

he was a beast in SK, it was a mistake for them to kick him. f0rest gtr moddii gux robban would have been sick :P

2011-05-24 13:31

3 replies

that's a really sick line up :O the amazing ex-fnatic mega trio ,moddiis awesome aim and robban as an decent frager,awper and IGL :D

2011-05-24 15:17

1 reply

2011-05-24 15:29

aim isn't everything. if he's as bad (attitude wise) as everyone seems to say, then it would probably fail sooner or later.

2011-05-24 18:29

manne

2011-05-24 13:19

3 replies

+1 manne sick!

2011-05-24 13:37

1 reply

or hyvlarn

2011-05-24 15:57

I guess wenton isn't that bad as well

2011-05-24 17:16

LOL, go interview with allen :p

2011-05-24 10:41

IMO the 5th player will be a big surprise for everyone:D will be something unexpected and cool. You heard it here first !

2011-05-24 10:41

6 replies

SK Insider...ShamaNAN. You heard it here first

2011-05-24 10:43

1 reply

first and last time -.-

2011-05-24 10:58

the most smart and best decision would be manne he is the best in sweden so it wouldnt be a big suprise if they would sing him

2011-05-24 10:57

SK|rara? No, I know the answer. I will give you a little hint: Abd*s*m*d Sp*wN M*h*m*d. And for those who this it is Abdosimod SpywN Mehomed, you're wrong!

2011-05-24 11:04

f0rest has son?!?!?!?!

2011-05-24 11:11

dennis is probably staying m8

2011-05-25 10:34

-allen + ...???? are there even any other swedish talents left? sk burned through all of them already :/

2011-05-24 10:43

13 replies

+dennis, again =DD

2011-05-24 10:51

the best would be Gux... but hey, GeT_RiGhT had issues with SK too and joined them up aswell, so why not gux ? if would be a bad ass line up !

2011-05-24 10:53

11 replies

i think that the difference is that GeT_RiGhT was treated bad by his team mates in that SK lineup, that's got nothing to do with the organisation though? while GuX had some issues with his contract and some payments... That's how i remember the situation.

2011-05-24 11:05

10 replies

nope, gtr was treated bad by everybody in SK but certeinly not his teammates, he has not even been paid. The differennce is that GuX also fuk*ed SK, GTR was the only fu*Ked in his story.

2011-05-24 11:23

9 replies

He was a kid back then..

2011-05-24 11:51

8 replies

LOL, owned by tentpole? Ever thought of that he didn't notice his high-five????????????????????????????????????

2011-05-24 11:55

7 replies

Not just that dude they never liked him just don't know why he got back in SK

2011-05-24 12:03

6 replies

It's not that they didn't like him, they thought SpawN was better back then, so they gave GeT_RiGhT to MYM until SpawN stayed active on SK, but MYM beated SK with a GeT_RiGhT on fire and after that... Well, everything was in backstage, so we don't know what really happened, but SK fucked him up, using his contract to avoid him to join another team ! It's quite the story, but it was like 4 years ago, so if i'm wrong, tell me x)

2011-05-24 14:34

1 reply

Whatever as i heard it was that they didn't like him.. but it could be like you say.

2011-05-24 14:42

But it was originally what you said before you edited post.

2011-05-24 16:40

3 replies

Am i saying that i didn't ?

2011-05-24 17:51

2 replies

I pointed out what I responded to.

2011-05-24 19:42

1 reply

walle and tentpole didnt want gtr in SK, they wanted spawn but now theres no problem with gtr in SK because walle was sent out. He didnt retire, they wanted gtr and forest instead.

2011-05-25 06:11

dennis is good player, if it turns out (allen), dennis is player ideal for SK

2011-05-24 10:43

6 replies

he still got negative KD, and they said he aint that smart ingame

2011-05-24 12:38

5 replies

where did they say that?

2011-05-24 12:50

I hope dennis will return to SK.Robban should let dennis be the primary AWP of the team. I don't buy that dennis aint smart in game

2011-05-24 13:09

1 reply

ofc hes smart -_- abouve average..

2011-05-24 18:48

hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=1146&event.. He did 1 event of 5 with a negative KD but everyone just remember that ... He played good in the Xperia Play, you noticed that ? I'm pretty sure not...

2011-05-24 14:53

1 reply

KD doesn't matter :) KD doesn't make you a good player nor the amount of frags you do per game.

2011-05-25 13:52

nice!! dennis > allen

2011-05-24 10:43

19 replies

I not think! reason of players: dennis = allen

2011-05-24 10:50

18 replies

Don't you have english classes in school?

2011-05-24 12:12

17 replies

English is with a capital E.

2011-05-24 15:01

16 replies

no1 cares about capital letters in internet

2011-05-24 15:31

12 replies

But its allways so important to write SK instead of just writing sk right?

2011-05-24 15:49

Obviously for uneducated folk it doesn't make a difference. By just looking at how the person is speaking (i.e. writing), you can determine the intellectual capabilities of the individual.

2011-05-24 16:44

10 replies

you are so educated (19 year old) :/

2011-05-25 17:10

9 replies

As far as I know, age doesn't matter in terms of education, it's never too late nor to early to self-educate. You must be then ashamed about yourself, because you are 20.

2011-05-25 20:24

8 replies

is it you? img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/1//..

2011-05-26 00:17

7 replies

No, this isn't me at all.

2011-05-26 02:36

6 replies

you lie, its you

2011-05-27 23:39

5 replies

Keep on trolling, kid.

2011-05-28 00:03

4 replies

"Keep on trolling, kid." ok, typical phrase of hltv.org user:D

2011-05-29 11:41

3 replies

I don't follow hltv.org user comments as you do, but after even having conversation with you it is quite obvious you are a troll.

2011-05-29 19:46

2 replies

you have 813 comments on this hltv.org and I 267.. I made this account earlier than you.

2011-05-30 23:48

1 reply

Easy spotted your intelectual skill, just because I have so many comments you assume that all of the are replies to other comments. I just post my thoughts about a thing and never again open that news post, unless someone replies to me.

2011-05-31 00:31

sorry sir

2011-05-24 17:33

2 replies

I think You catch my drift.

2011-05-25 01:56

1 reply

Of course i got it haha :)

2011-05-25 03:06

maybe they will get threat as tac leader and let robban focus on weapons and awp... makes sense...

2011-05-24 10:49

1 reply

just not threat please. moddi or manne if they wont to make a difference.

2011-05-24 16:21

SK.drama

2011-05-24 10:50

like a kids :D

2011-05-24 10:53

Budak is an idiot!

2011-05-24 10:54

the title on SK-gaming read: SK using allen for WCG qualifier ....

2011-05-24 10:54

delpan was perfect

2011-05-24 10:54

dennis must join SK permanently

2011-05-24 10:57

This makeing me nuts! Seriously MAKE UP YOUR MIND SK FFS! and for you guys who ask if there is some more talents in sweden? Yes it is its coming more and more for every day who comes! And imo they should let allen stay! and dennis was a big misstake! BIG MISSTAKE!

2011-05-24 10:58

2 replies

how big a talent is Adde? or is he to old? always think he plays nice

2011-05-24 12:39

1 reply

adde is 20 something and he is not that big of a talent but yeah he is a good player :)

2011-05-24 12:50

so they depart with dennis , and allen is basically trying out to see if this makes Get_righT and f0rest happy to continue , in other ways there using him to see if this is the direction they wanna take ... sounds like an abusive relationship .. SK is having an identity crisis ..

2011-05-24 10:59

1 reply

I think this is the management's decision. forest and gtr both wanted to play with robban and allen but I think maybe allen is a bit rusty because hasnt played for awhile so they want to see if he is still high level or have to get someone else.

2011-05-25 06:18

Allen is better than dennis... wrr :(

2011-05-24 10:59

Oh good lord, there always has to be that "5th player" that gets to play musical chairs with other people.... for the past...since SK existed really. Guess how SpawN first entered SK? ukterrorist.com/news/sk_changes/

2011-05-24 11:02

5 replies

"...SpawN has filled this spot and will be playing for SK for the WCG only." ;-)

2011-05-24 11:07

4 replies

= musical chairs. That was my point -.-'' This is how it started for SpawN, after a bunch of juggling around spawn entered as a permanent player.

2011-05-24 11:22

3 replies

I was just pointing it out ;-)

2011-05-24 11:48

2 replies

ah ok :P Thought you didn't know what I mean. Sorry then :P

2011-05-24 14:36

1 reply

No problem :D

2011-05-25 00:41

2011-05-24 11:00

gtr, forest, delpan, pronax, moddii

2011-05-24 11:06

5 replies

definitely -pronax +cArn otherwise that's probably one of the sickest possible line-ups atm :P

2011-05-24 11:11

3 replies

2011-05-24 11:13

2011-05-24 11:44

Very correct.

2011-05-24 16:44

gtr forest GuX moddi robban/cArn/pronax.

2011-05-24 16:04

lol SK

2011-05-24 11:06

he cant return i54.tinypic.com/25yyath.jpg :D

2011-05-24 11:15

5 replies

omg wtf

2011-05-24 11:30

whatttttttttttttt the f*ckkk he's gay??? LOL

2011-05-24 14:32

1 reply

Make a design about that Gay Community will love it

2011-05-24 14:44

now i really dont like him LOL

2011-05-24 15:03

Ahahaha, make my day. :D

2011-05-25 00:40

They never announced his return, budak just had to clarify because numerous sites made wrong conclusions. Will be interesting to see what happens though.

2011-05-24 11:22

fuck sk

2011-05-24 11:27

-allen +keiz/moddii

2011-05-24 11:31

2 replies

keiz no, moddii or manne

2011-05-24 11:37

1 reply

no way,all of them are in good teams.. they wont leave their teams, they know that the would be probably kicked after 2-3 months.

2011-05-24 15:19

what what

2011-05-24 11:32

1 reply

in the butt

2011-05-24 14:48

Clear it out ffs, will he be there or not.

2011-05-24 11:32

or who will fucking be in the lineup

2011-05-24 11:33

4 replies

in before jonathan E reminds you reply button

2011-05-24 12:04

3 replies

edit button haha

2011-05-24 12:17

1 reply

lol fail :D

2011-05-24 14:15

trolllololololo

2011-05-24 14:54

i think sk will sign Gux after the event.. they need him to win against fx and navi !!

2011-05-24 11:45

they're gonna pick hyvlarn

2011-05-24 11:47

hehehehehe we'll see.

2011-05-24 11:47

This is about allens disease. Not about undetermined team members.

2011-05-24 11:49

SK + gux = every tournament this year

2011-05-24 11:50

Why not Tentpole ? :)) gl SK

2011-05-24 11:52

Yep, and in raport i throught like this, cuz in SK Gaming site the new is writing that allen would play just in WCG Qua. and to see in what form is.

2011-05-24 11:55

Hope for REAL if allen leave SK again. Would be so so but so so fantastic :P.

2011-05-24 11:57

gux is the best to add

2011-05-24 11:59

THEY NEED W-A-L-L-E

2011-05-24 12:01

just hope for moddii or manne to join SK

2011-05-24 12:03

Sunde is coming back,mudak called me in the morning

2011-05-24 12:11

6 replies

who's mudak?

2011-05-24 12:15

1 reply

budak=mudak

2011-05-24 12:33

I had the exactly same though actually

2011-05-24 12:50

AHAHAHAHAH. I see what you did there. :D hahaha

2011-05-24 12:52

1 reply

tshhhh :D

2011-05-24 13:28

pro100 mudak

2011-05-24 16:47

Stand in,for stand in?WTF is this?

2011-05-24 12:12

Anton "budak" Budak ... why all the "nicks" when his name is the same ? :D

2011-05-24 12:23

fnatic > sk no matter how sk changes rosters.

2011-05-24 12:36

SK|eXecutR (me)

2011-05-24 12:37

2 replies

since french ppl almost ALWAYS only wanna speak french, then its a no go.

2011-05-24 12:45

1 reply

2011-05-24 16:47

+ walle :D

2011-05-24 12:45

They should've just chosen moddii over allen in the first place:PppPPpPPpPpP

2011-05-24 12:48

hhahaahhaha

2011-05-24 12:48

nothing is permanent in this wicked world - not even allen.

2011-05-24 12:51

Haha. Wouldn't be so smart to add a complete new player, if allen won't stay. And, if they removed dennis, I'm pretty sure we will see a new face. And like I said, that isn't a smart move, because they were doing fine with dennis and why would them remove him than.. :D

2011-05-24 12:58

1 reply

Because you don't know what is happening behind the stage of the team. Though they had some pretty good matches and all, but that's not the most important thing in a team. Everything is based on the atmosphere, team spirit and communication between players and the rest comes afterwards.

2011-05-24 16:49

Hope walle joins again :D

2011-05-24 12:53

+walle = winning

2011-05-24 13:00

4 replies

+moddii = bi-winning

2011-05-24 13:43

3 replies

indeeed!!!!!!!!!!!! or kalle ftw!

2011-05-24 13:56

lol

2011-05-24 14:32

moddii = charlie sheen

2011-05-24 17:21

oh for christ sakes, this is just silly, had moddii please! and be done with it

2011-05-24 13:10

PLEASE WALLE

2011-05-24 13:12

Just take manne. They need a good awp:er

2011-05-24 13:13

1 reply

manne is good but I don't think he could play well against top-players. +walle or maybe impossible, +delpan.

2011-05-24 17:19

go manne go

2011-05-24 13:21

+Snajdan as in-game leader :D

2011-05-24 13:26

hopefully they get moddii or gux

2011-05-24 13:27

M A N N E

2011-05-24 13:31

awesome

2011-05-24 13:37

he should be permanent.

2011-05-24 13:38

jimmy vs dennis, who will play better then will stand in.

2011-05-24 13:40

1 reply

:DDDDDDDDDDDD

2011-05-24 16:51

Once again, stupid move by SK Gaming, every move they make makes me question them..

2011-05-24 13:40

lions -gux +dennis sk -allen +gux every1 happy

2011-05-24 13:45

2 replies

lions not happy xd Mydreams sk.GuX moddi f0rest GeT_RiGhT RobbaN fnatic.Delpan dsn manne Xizt cArn LIONS.face dennis allen FYRR73 pronax a2g.keiz kHRYSTAL niko pita threat RAGE.tacky kalle hyvlarn BARBARR snajdan duttdutt.huggan qp wenton seAzon pinne

2011-05-24 16:20

1 reply

dateam ?! :O

2011-05-24 16:41

facepalm to sk keep changing players i am sure you will win every trophy with that smart moves i hope they will take the right choice

2011-05-24 13:53

the madfragger allen returns!! :D awesome, and good for sk, he is a pure monster compared to dennis, who did however do a great job standing in..

2011-05-24 13:52

Retarded SK org !

2011-05-24 13:55

bring xizt =))

2011-05-24 13:57

MODDII GO GO GO

2011-05-24 13:57

hehe....we are gonna to be suprised 1 more time after allen leaves again =]

2011-05-24 13:58

SK|manne

2011-05-24 14:00

Sort out ur storys Budak

2011-05-24 14:07

5th! KALLE!

2011-05-24 14:10

Only makes any sense if their goal was to let go of Dennis and they were desperate for a nice excuse...

2011-05-24 14:11

well duh, they never said he would return to SK, only that he would play the WCG qualifier. so ofc there's no guarantee. can't you guys read?

2011-05-24 14:13

-Face -allen +manne +pita,fury,modi

2011-05-24 14:14

1 reply

YEAH!! Bring in fury, so SK Gaming could make a fragmovie!

2011-05-24 19:40

Would be amazing to watch: f0rest GeT_RiGhT Delpan Moddii / gux Threat Play in a team :)

2011-05-24 14:16

1 reply

f0rest(backup) Delpan(awper) walle(IGL,second awper) moddii(attacker) GeT_RiGhT(attacker)

2011-05-24 15:01

I don't understand. Allen was not playing CS for a while. It is likely that dennis will perform better than allen at WCG Qualifier. anyway, they had "extremely complex" situation... GL dennis.

2011-05-24 14:16

what is the point? ...

2011-05-24 14:27

+moddii and i'll hate SK a little lesser.

2011-05-24 14:46

1 reply

hate is a strong word man

2011-05-24 14:55

they should call me :D :D :D

2011-05-24 14:56

nobody knows the real reason?

2011-05-24 14:59

Try out manne as a stand-in. If it's not successful, bring dennis back.

2011-05-24 15:02

1 reply

2011-05-24 15:03

FACEPALM!

2011-05-24 15:02

+oskar!

2011-05-24 15:02

maybe that will be the last allen's tournament before retirement, who knows..

2011-05-24 15:03

i wonder who's going to be picked for 5th player as all free agents in sweden are on dennis level

2011-05-24 15:04

it sounds something like this: sk: hey allen, can you back up our ass one more time? allen: why? what happens?. sk: well... we need to kick dennis as we always do bad moves, but we need a reason and the best reason would be "your return"... just for one tourny then you must fall back to your forced retirement... u know, we're evil corporation.

2011-05-24 15:04

1 reply

I have to agree =/

2011-05-24 15:18

it doesnt make any sense...

2011-05-24 15:04

dennis has good AWP and SK really need this role so I wish allen to join other great team

2011-05-24 15:05

They definitely need an awper + a madfragger, solution? Manne.

2011-05-24 15:10

allen > dennis haha

2011-05-24 15:11

The most complicated and corrupted CS organisation in the history.

2011-05-24 15:14

1 reply

corrupted :D LOL! You better check dictionary , you have misunderstood the definition of corruption .

2011-05-24 18:00

they want dennis & allen at the same time... -robban +dennis

2011-05-24 15:15

SK players + Budak should LEAVE SK, and form a new orga, I'm sure that they can get a couple of sponsors, plus that would teach a lesson to that stupid ad arrogant guy "I-own-SK-I-always-wanna-WIN". This really pisses me off ¬¬

2011-05-24 15:21

1 reply

like perez in Real Madrid :D

2011-05-24 15:40

+threat? :o

2011-05-24 15:22

SK-Gaming is just a joke, lol

2011-05-24 15:25

- dennis + walle

2011-05-24 15:34

1 reply

+1!

2011-05-24 15:54

ffs!

2011-05-24 15:38

HLTV stop spamming about this allen guy cause it's freaking boring...

2011-05-24 15:40

bring back the tentpole! begrip f0rest/tentpole combo >

2011-05-24 15:42

f0rest gtr delpan moddii robban gl hf navi

2011-05-24 15:42

5 replies

Before you (people) said SK will destroy all with that "dream" line-up. But they FAILS AND FAILS. Now you said that "dream" line-up. Na`Vi just playing in another level. Their level is better, then that "dream" line-up. They make team with best ukrainian players and destroy all. And that star-line-ups will s*ck from long time I hope.

2011-05-24 15:52

2 replies

+100500 all can make SUPER ROSTERS, but Na`Vi its Na`Vi. they're unbeatable on big tournaments and very hard to be beaten on normal tournaments. That SUPER STAR ROSTERS is NOTHING...

2011-05-24 15:54

1 reply

Unbeatable? Lol :-)

2011-05-24 17:40

2easy for navi if robban still there. Fact

2011-05-24 16:38

1 reply

True, they need a good igl. cArn and his mind ftw!

2011-05-27 23:59

+walle/manne/hyvlarn

2011-05-24 16:03

SK(management or players whoever is responsible for all these changes) seriously needs to make up their minds about team composition and stick with it.

2011-05-24 16:04

1 reply

they can blame managers but in the end its up to the players themselfes. if get_right and f0rest say that they leave if blabla is commin in then they dont do it. so its all up to the players.

2011-05-24 16:07

I love sk.cs team but I pretty much hate the orginasation

2011-05-24 16:28

1 reply

2011-05-24 17:21

Ok. Now I'm mad. (uMad bro?)

2011-05-24 16:30

manne Dennis qp hyvlarn keiz

2011-05-24 16:36

1 reply

SK|qp Are u kidding?:D

2011-05-24 19:23

need BARBARR

2011-05-24 16:39

+ dennis or kalle

2011-05-24 16:39

1 reply

kalle will never join SK, since they have been an only swedish team for so many years.

2011-05-24 17:31

If it should be a new one i think it need to be moddii, i think he really deserves it :)

2011-05-24 17:02

moddii or kHRYSTAL

2011-05-24 17:03

guess we'll find out after WCG qualifier.

2011-05-24 17:34

lol SK organization is a joke.

2011-05-24 18:06

fail SK, allen bad!

2011-05-24 18:16

fail SK, sk started to change their players like a amateur team. don't wish SK will finished as 1st in the most important tournaments for this year.

2011-05-24 18:59

Lol, why is this news? The previous article stated he was just going to stand-in for the WCG Qualifier. If this doesn't work out I wonder if Dennis will return or SK will scout someone else.

2011-05-24 19:21

1 reply

Yeah, maybe dennis will return.

2011-05-24 19:22

I miss the days when BDS was in charge of SK gaming :(

2011-05-24 20:13

1 reply

+12415134134142418574982749865916 Thumbs

2011-05-25 00:45

GL ALLEN. fvrt plr!!! <3

2011-05-24 20:30

-allen +MODDII thats my dream line up :/

2011-05-24 22:00

I think now he trained all that time he was gone lol thats realy sucks no ofens allen :/

2011-05-24 22:04

f0rest, get_right, moddii, Xizt, FalleN = gg

2011-05-24 22:31

change an igl or a powerful awper!!

2011-05-25 04:33

1 reply

manne powerful awper!:D

2011-05-25 15:01

i like allen but i think the problem is in robban as igl

2011-05-25 10:52

1 reply

-robban +dennis

2011-05-28 00:22

Well , It would'nt be good , time's up for allen guys SK thinks that they are Real Madrid thet think that money makes every thing :"( RIP SK.

2011-05-25 12:15

think allen is more better play then dennis

2011-05-25 14:47

wow sk make your minds up :(

2011-05-25 14:47

I want more Dennis in SK GAMING !!!!!!!!!!

2011-05-25 15:49

i don't know why they kick moddi. moddi was better than a few players in sk.

2011-05-25 16:37

its pretty simple. the thing is: allen is retiring and wants to play one last tournament with SK and specially with robban. After WCG is over it will be announced. But about the fifth player, no idea what will happen, maybe dennis will be back, dont know

2011-05-25 20:44

manne+

2011-05-27 15:36

team work,has not sk team work? walle,allen,face,delpan,moddii;walle,robbon,allen,zet,tentpole;robbon,forest,gtr,face,allen or even dennis... where is the teamwork?

2011-05-27 16:06