SEC 2011: Top players

With the second big international event in October, SEC 2011 behind us, we now bring you the Top players list from the Polish event along with our usual MVP and All-Star lineup polls.

This year's Samsung Euro Championship took place in Warsaw, Poland and it hosted teams from 13 different European countries. With several of the world's top teams in attendance, the tournament turned out to be quite interesting, while the victory went to home team AGAiN, as they defeated Natus Vincere in the final.

Despite leaving the Frag eXecutors organization in the mean time, the Polish team's amazing performances continued, as after winning Xperia PLAY, ASUS Summer and e-Stars, they earned another first place cheque for their success at SEC 2011, this time worth $15,000.

70 players took part in this tournament, and 35 maps were played, which aren't really big numbers compared to some previous events, but someone had to stand out from the rest and thus we bring you our list of 18 players that did just that.

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Best rated players

18) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov Ukraine Na´Vi
0.68 0.60 1.05

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.53 vs Sweden SK Gaming (Quarter-final, tuscan)

The Ukrainian team Natus Vincere finally made it past the 3rd place barrier that they've been stopped at in recent tournaments, but they still didn't go all the way. Even though their star player Yegor "markeloff" Markelov didn't perform as well as usual, he had an important role in their 2nd place finish.

Usually, Markelov is an example of consistent performances, but this time that wasn't the case as he was rated above 1.00 in only 3 of 9 maps. Apart from playing great in their two group stage matches, he stepped up in the very difficult quarter-final clash with SK Gaming.

Markelov was voted man-of-the-match for his performance against the Swedes, mainly thanks to his play in the second map, de_tuscan. On that map, he put on quite a show in the first half, having a 24:4 score as his team took a 14-1 lead which basically secured them passage to the semi-final at that point.

Aside from that, also mention-worthy was Markelov's overall AWP display. He actually wasn't the team's primary AWPer at this tournament, due to using the weapon only on de_train and de_dust2, but he still accumulated 58 total kills and 4th best 0.24 awpKPR.

17) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg Sweden SK Gaming
0.75 0.64 1.07

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.38 vs North Macedonia ENTiTY (Group stage, inferno)

After suffering an unexpected loss to Electronic Sahara in their group, SK Gaming were paired up with Natus Vincere in the quarter-final. The Swedish team ended up being the one to go home earlier than expected, but despite their overall disappointment, a couple of their players showed good performances.

Although he didn't win any matches by himself, SK's star Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg was the team's second best rated player thanks to playing well against each opponent. Additionally, he was the 2nd best rated in entry kills, with the best success rate in first duels of 69% (18:8 entry score).

16) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Ukraine Sergey 'starix' Ischuk Ukraine Na´Vi
0.70 0.60 1.08

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.59 vs Hungary myRevenge (Group stage, train)

Second placed Natus Vincere didn't actually have anyone stand out significantly, as four of their players stepped up at some point. One of them is Sergey "starix" Ischuk, who turned out to be the team's primary AWPer at this event.

Just as his team, Ischuk has struggled most of the year to repeat the amazing form from 2010, when he was one of the most consistent players, but recently he has picked it up, playing well at e-Stars and now at SEC.

Although he never shied away from the AWP before either, somewhat surprisingly he used the big green gun more than his teammate Markelov at this event. That produced good results for them, as Ischuk collected 72 kills with it and recorded his personal best 0.30 awpKPR this year (2nd best at this tournament).

What he will be remembered for the most from this event is the amazing display in the second map of the semi-final against WinFakt. After losing de_tuscan against the Finns, de_train followed where Ischuk recorded a rare feat of surviving every round of the first half (17:0 score). That obviously helped his team quite a lot, as they found themselves with a 14-1 lead that they later turned into victory.

15) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev Ukraine Na´Vi
0.75 0.65 1.09

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.61 vs Poland AGAiN (Final, dust2)

The next player of Na`Vi that had his share of good performances at this tournament is Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev. The pistol-king of the world in 2010 put up the numbers against big opponents, in the quarter-final against SK Gaming and in the final against AGAiN.

As the Ukrainians defeated the Swedes in the quarter-final, Sukhariev was the team's top rated player overall in those two maps (48:37 score, 1.24 rating). In the final versus AGAiN, he was the only one to put up some resistance in the second map, as he ended up top rated despite his team losing (31:19 score, 1.61 rating).

In his specialty, pistol-rounds, Sukhariev did the job expectedly well, getting the most kills of all players (19).

14) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Finland Tomi 'lurppis' Kovanen Finland WinFakt
0.74 0.63 1.09

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 2.29 vs Czech Republic eSuba (Quarter-final, inferno)

After being the best fragger among in-game leader in his previous two events, Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen is this time a close 2nd in that regard, while additionally he once more led WinFakt to a 3rd place finish.

Kovanen was one of only five players at the event who had a better rating in the playoffs than in the group stage (1.12 compared to 1.04). He accomplished that mostly thanks to his impressive play in the quarter-final against eSuba, when in the first map he had one of the best performances of the event by any player (26:7 score, 2.29 rating).

Also, Kovanen was once again among the best entry killers of the event, similarly to his e-Stars performance, this time having the highest total of 38 entry frags.

13) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Finland Jirka 'jigetus' Ryhti Finland WinFakt
0.72 0.61 1.11

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.67 vs Poland AGAiN (Group stage, nuke)

In his second event with the team since joining, Jirka "jigetus" Ryhti was again an important part of their machinery that reached 3rd place both times.

Even though the match that put him on the map was in the group stage, it was still against the hardest possible opponent – the eventual winners AGAiN. As WinFakt made one of the biggest surprises of the event by defeating the Poles 21-9, Ryhti was by far the best rated player in that match with a 33:18 score and 1.67 rating, while he also accomplished this ace.

At the previous occasion during IEM6 GC Guangzhou, Ryhti was the best clutcher of the tournament, and this time he didn't fall behind much as the 3rd best, with 5 1vsX rounds won.

12) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko Ukraine Na´Vi
0.76 0.68 1.11

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.37 vs Poland Fear Factory (Group stage, train)

Until this event, Natus Vincere had won 8 out of 9 grand finals at major tournaments, and that success was in large part attributed to the leadership abilities of their in-game leader Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko. Now at SEC, they found themselves on the losing side only for the second time, but Teslenko could be comforted by the fact that he excelled individually as the team's best and the best fragger among in-game leaders.

Teslenko was the team's most consistent performer, having 7 of 9 maps with a rating above 1.00. The semi-final match against WinFakt was his brightest hour as he was the best rated in that match (73:54 score, 1.24 rating in 3 maps).

11) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
France Engin 'MAJ3R' Kupeli France eSahara
0.77 0.70 1.12

0 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.37 vs Bulgaria DooM (Group stage, nuke)

Electronic Sahara arranged one of the most pleasant surprises of the group stage when they defeated SK Gaming and claimed the top spot of their group, but later they were themselves surprised by Fear Factory in the quarter-final.

One of their two standout performers was expectedly Engin "MAJ3R" Kupeli. He was the team's best rated in that crucial match against SK and he played well in the rest of the matches, including their quarter-final loss, where he put up a solid fight and recorded a highlight ace.

10) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Poland Artur 'BEn' Ostrach Poland Fear Factory
0.74 0.67 1.13

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 2.31 vs Hungary myRevenge (Group stage, nuke)

Probably the biggest surprise of the tournament was the 4th place finish of the other Polish team, Fear Factory, and their campaign's best player was definitely Artur "BEn" Ostrach.

Although his teammate Tomasz "ths" Sopel was the architect of their main success of defeating eSahara in the quarter-final, Ostrach was great in that match too, but also much more consistent during the rest of their matches.

His best performance was in the group stage victory over myRevenge.hu that secured them the playoff spot. In that encounter, Ostrach almost by himself defeated the Hungarians recording a 28:9 score (2.31 rating, 68% above team's average), in one of the best individual performances of the tournament.

He was also one of the best pistol-round players of the event (1.67 pistol-round rating, 3rd best), which helped Fear Factory to be the most successful team in first rounds (11 of 16 won, 69%).

9) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Poland Jakub 'kuben' Gurczynski Poland AGAiN
0.70 0.53 1.13

3 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.66 vs Russia Moscow Five (Quarter-final, nuke)

The winners of this event, ex-Frag eXecutors, now known as AGAiN, had four of their members stand out significantly and even making the top 10 best rated, starting with their in-game leader Jakub "kuben" Gurczynski.

Gurczynski already had his moments in the early part of this year, being twice nominated for the All-Star lineup, at IEM5 European Finals and IEM5 World Championship, but this performance of his at SEC was better than either of those occasions.

He was the only player at the event to be top rated in 3 maps, once versus BGDonLINE in the group stage and in both maps of the quarter-final against Moscow Five (50:23 individual score).

He played well in the final two matches too, and ended up with an excellent 1.21 playoff-rating (4th best). Additionally, he was by far the hardest to kill (0.53 deaths per round), which can be a very significant stat for an in-game leader, and he was also the shared-best clutcher of the event with 6 rounds won when left alone.

8) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Finland Kimmo 'BASiC' Fagerholm Finland WinFakt
0.75 0.61 1.14

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.94 vs Serbia BGDonLINE (Group stage, tuscan)

Another member of the Finnish team WinFakt, Kimmo "BASiC" Fagerholm, had a good overall display at SEC. Although he mostly excelled in the group stage, he still performed well enough in the rest of the tournament.

After a shaky performance in Guangzhou, Fagerholm is back to the usual suspects list, and he earned his spot mainly during the victories against TeG (30:11, 1.62 rating) and BGDonLINE (38:16, 1.94 rating) in the group stage.

Similarly to his e-Stars display, he was one of the best entry-fraggers of the event, with the second best EK-difference of +14 (35 entry kills and 21 entry deaths).

7) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Poland Filip 'Neo' Kubski Poland AGAiN
0.78 0.61 1.16

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.59 vs Ukraine Na´Vi (Final, train)

The Polish superstar and definitely the best player of 2011 so far, Filip "Neo" Kubski was once again instrumental in his team's title-winning campaign. Despite not being their best fragger this time, he stepped up when it mattered most, in the final.

The three-time MVP winner this year had a quiet time during the group stage of SEC, but he woke up when the playoffs started, playing better and better every round as the tournament progressed.

His form culminated in the final against Natus Vincere, where he was the best rated over the two maps (52:34 score, 1.43 rating). He also had a very good display in the semi-final against Fear Factory (39:24, 1.31 rating), which together with an average display against Moscow Five made him the 2nd best rated player in the playoffs (1.25 rating).

Additionally, Kubski was one of the event's best entry killers, having at least 4 entry kills in 7 of his 9 maps (overall 3rd best rated).

6) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Poland Jarosław 'pasha' Jarząbkowski Poland AGAiN
0.81 0.62 1.22

0 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.55 vs Poland Fear Factory (Semi-final, inferno)

The tradition of Jarosław "pasha" Jarząbkowski ending up as the Polish team's second best rated player whenever they win a major event has continued once more.

After showing impressive form in the last months, especially at e-Stars when he was even an MVP nominee, Jarząbkowski continued in the same manner at SEC. Despite not being top rated in any match, he delighted with consistency as he played well enough in every match, with his lowest rating being 0.96.

His best display was probably in the semi-final against Fear Factory, when he ended up overall top rated slightly ahead of his teammates with a 1.35 rating (39:24 score). Moreover, he was one of the most dominant players, having 19 rounds with 3 or more kills, and was also the 4th best in pistol-rounds.

5) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
France Christophe 'SIXER' Xia France eSahara
0.85 0.67 1.23

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.76 vs North Macedonia ENTiTY (Group stage, inferno)

It is not too uncommon to see players who didn't make it to the very end of the tournament be highly rated, and this time three quarter-finalists made it to the top5. One of them is Electronic Sahara's super-talented Christophe "SIXER" Xia.

Xia was the second best fragger of the event on average, with an excellent 0.85 KPR, although, seeing as eSahara was stopped at their first playoff step, he mostly accumulated that in the group stage.

It was the matches against ENTiTY and DooM that Xia excelled in, destroying the Macedonian team with a 38:17 performance (1.76 rating) and the Bulgarians 31:16 (1.63 rating). He was also the team's best rated player afterwards, in their disappointing loss to Fear Factory.

4) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund Sweden SK Gaming
0.84 0.64 1.24

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.39 vs Bulgaria DooM (Group stage, tuscan)

The other SK member that didn't disappoint at all despite their early exit in the quarter-final is the one who practically never disappoints, Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund.

With a rating above 1.00 and above team's average in each of their 5 maps, Alesund was the event's most consistent performer. Also demonstrating that is the fact that he had at least 23 kills in each match.

He was top rated in SK's two opening encounters, the loss to eSahara (24:19, 1.24 rating) and victory over DooM (24:15, 1.39 rating). In their only playoff match, quarter-final against Natus Vincere, Alesund put up by far the most resistance among his teammates, recording a 1.18 rating in the two maps.

3) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Finland Timi 'aslak' Verkkoperä Finland WinFakt
0.82 0.59 1.24

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.78 vs Poland Fear Factory (3rd place decider, train)

One of the brightest talents that emerged in the scene lately, WinFakt's Timi "aslak" Verkkoperä, has continued impressing. After showing his potential at e-Stars, where he ended up top rated and best AWPer among many established stars, he has now affirmed himself with this performance at SEC.

Verkkoperä showed impressive consistency, playing on the same level both in the group stage and in the playoffs, being rated above 1.00 in 8 of 10 maps. He ended up as the 3rd best rated in playoffs (1.23 rating), and he accumulated the most kills of all players at the event (220 total kills). Also, he was the most dominant considering the amount of rounds with 3 or more kills, having 21 of them.

His AWP was as sharp as usual, as he had 74 kills with it, also the most of all players, for an average of 0.28 awpKPR, making him one of the best AWPers for the third event in a row. He best demonstrated his skills with the big green in the semi-final match against Natus Vincere, when on the first map, de_tuscan, he had 21 kills with it and made a highlight round in the process. He surpassed that number against his next opponent in the third place decider, Fear Factory, when he had 24 AWP kills in the first map.

2) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Russia Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov Russia Moscow Five
0.84 0.60 1.25

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.51 vs Czech Republic eSuba (Group stage, train)

Moscow Five was somewhat unlucky to meet AGAiN in the quarter-final after strolling through their group, which saw them head home unexpectedly early. Their by far best player of that short campaign was Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov.

Although he played only four maps, Stolyarov managed to leave his mark at this tournament, having the 3rd best KPR of 0.84, playing great in the group stage and putting up a good fight in the quarter-final against AGAiN. He also did a great job in pistol-rounds having a 1.75 pistol-round rating.

1) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas Poland AGAiN
0.92 0.61 1.35

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 2.19 vs Romania TeG (Group stage, inferno)

Although it doesn't happen as often as one would expect that the best rated player comes from the winning team, this time Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas from AGAiN was far above the rest with an impressive 1.35 rating.

Wojtas hasn't been the team's primary star this year, but he has been in great form all year long, ever since the beginning when he was selected for the All-Star lineup of IEM5 European Finals in January. At SEC he exceeded all previous performances and had one of the best tournaments of his career individually.

He was by far the best fragger of the tournament with a 0.92 KPR, which probably is the best of his career. After starting with a loss and a bad display against WinFakt, both Wojtas and his team went on a run of incredible form, as they won all 8 of their following maps, while he had a rating of at least 1.15 in each of them.

The early signs of what is to come could have been spotted when Wojtas annihilated Romanian team TeG in the group stage, having a 45:19 score (2.19 rating). He then had great displays in each of the playoff encounters, culminating in the final against Natus Vincere where he had the most frags and was just one percentage behind his teammate Kubski with a 1.42 rating (55:35 score).

Therefore it is no surprise that he ended up as the best rated player even post-group stage, with a 1.35 playoff-rating. Overall in the tournament, he collected 216 kills (a very close 2nd) and had the best K-D difference (+71). Additionally, Wojtas was the best entry killer of the tournament, having the best EK-rating (1.37) and the best EK-difference of +16 (36:20 entry score).

Note: This ranking is based on Rating (read about it here). It doesn't necessarily represent an ordered list of the best players at the event, but instead singles out the ones who played well in their matches using the formula described in the page linked above.


Top Awpers

# Player Team awp Kills awpKPR % of kills
1. Russia Sergey 'Fox' Stolyarov  Russia M5 36 0.33 48%
2. Ukraine Sergey 'starix' Ischuk Ukraine Na´Vi 72 0.30 43%
3. Finland Timi 'aslak' Verkkoperä Finland WinFakt 74 0.28 34%
4. Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov Ukraine Na´Vi 58 0.24 36%
5. Sweden Marcus 'Delpan' Larsson Sweden SK 26 0.18 36%

Top Pistol Round players

# Player Team PR KPR PR DPR PR Rating
1. Russia Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov Russia M5 1.25 0.50 1.75
2. Poland Tomasz 'ths' Sopel Poland FF 1.06 0.56 1.71
3. Poland Artur 'BEn' Ostrach Poland FF 0.94 0.50 1.67
4. Poland Jarosław 'pasha' Jarząbkowski Poland AGAiN 0.94 0.56 1.54
5. Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev Ukraine Na´Vi 1.06 0.72 1.42

Top Entry-kill players

# Player Team EKpR EDpR EK-Rating Won%
1. Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas Poland AGAiN 0.15 0.08 1.37 64%
2. Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg Sweden SK
0.12 0.05 1.32 69%
3. Poland Filip 'Neo' Kubski Poland AGAiN
0.15 0.10 1.30 60%
4. Finland Tomi 'lurppis' Kovanen Finland WinFakt 0.14 0.09 1.27 60%
5. Finland Kimmo 'BASiC' Fagerholm Finland WinFakt
0.13 0.08 1.27 63%
  • 34 of 38 entry kills by lurppis led to a round win, more than any other player's
  • WinFakt overall has a solid record of winning rounds even when they are undermanned early on, but when aslak died first in a round they lost 19 of 22 times
  • Fear Factory lost the round 17 of 18 times when BEn was taken out first

Top Riflers

# Player Team rif Kills rifKPR % of kills
1. Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas Poland AGAiN 185 0.78 86%
2. Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund Sweden SK 107 0.73 88%
3. France Engin 'MAJ3R' Kupeli France eSahara 90 0.68 88%
4. Finland Tomi 'lurppis' Kovanen Finland WinFakt 173 0.64 87%
5. Sweden Robert 'RobbaN' Dahlström Sweden SK 92 0.63 86%

Additional stats leaders

Best Fragger:
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas (0.92 kills per round)

Hardest to kill:
Poland Jakub 'kuben' Gurczynski (0.53 deaths per round)

Best pistoleer:
Russia
Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov (0.17 pistol frags per round)

Most kills:
Finland
Timi 'aslak' Verkkoperä (220 total kills)

Best kill-death difference:
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas (+71)

Most dominant:
Finland
Timi 'aslak' Verkkoperä  (21 rounds with 3+ kills)
Poland
Jarosław 'pasha' Jarząbkowski (19 rounds with 3+ kills)

Most frequent fragger:
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas (57% of rounds with at least 1 kill)

Best clutcher:
France Michael 'HaRts' Zanatta (6 times won 1vsX)
Poland Jakub 'kuben' Gurczynski (6 times won 1vsX)

Most consistent:
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund (100% of matches above 1.00 rating and above team average)

Top individual match performances:
Finland lurppis vs Czech Republic eSuba on de_inferno - 26:7 (+19), 2.29 rating (+70%)
Poland TaZ vs Romania TeG on de_inferno - 45:16 (+29), 2.19 rating (+76%)
Finland aslak vs Poland FF on de_train - 30:16 (+14), 1.78 rating (+66%)
Poland BEn vs Hungary myRevenge on de_nuke - 28:9 (+19), 2.31 rating (+68%)
Finland BASiC vs Serbia BGDonLINE on de_tuscan - 38:16 (+22) 1.94 rating (+62%)
France SIXER vs North Macedonia ENTiTY on de_inferno - 38:17 (+21) 1.76 rating (+52%)


MVP and All-Star lineup vote

We have decided to nominate three members of the winning team AGAiN for the MVP, as each of them had a major contribution on their road to another title.

The most obvious choice was Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas, the best rated player of the tournament who stood out in many aspects. Jarosław "pasha" Jarząbkowski also contributed with consistent great play and was one of the most dominant players at the tournament, while their usual star Filip "Neo" Kubski waited for the latter stages of the tournament to explode, particularly excelling in the final match.

From the second placed team, Natus Vincere, none of the members excelled in particular, with several of them stepping up at various important moments, although not enough to be nominated for MVP of the tournament.

But there will be another player in the MVP poll, and that is third placed team's Timi "aslak" Verkkoperä, whose AWP and consistency were a key factor in WinFakt's overall success.

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We will also be choosing the All-Star lineup, so go ahead and select the 5 best players of this tournament in your opinion. Whether you want it to be a realistic squad where each player would have a role or simply the 5 best performers is up to you.

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Just like during our previous votes, we will be having a separate poll for "experts" only, which will later together with the public poll decide the outcome of the vote. The experts will consist of players who took part in this tournament, as well as journalists from other websites.

For more statistics from this tournament you can go here, while HLTV demos can be found here. We will be announcing the results of the vote next week after we've gathered enough votes, so stay tuned to HLTV.org to see who will be the MVP and who will make it into the All-Star lineup.

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N1 Taz
2011-10-20 14:13
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Russia SHAq[tw]
n1 brothers Stolravs :)
2011-10-20 14:29
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groupstage kings playoff dicks
2011-10-20 20:32
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Russia SHAq[tw]
fuck off markeloff top 18 ??? O_O DOSIA >>> markeloff
2011-10-21 20:25
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dosia - maps 4 mark - maps 9
2011-10-21 23:06
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2011-10-22 10:14
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Russia Rapt0r]
nice) taz and getr :)
2011-10-20 14:15
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Saudi Arabia Gobino
neo 73% fanboys detected D:
2011-10-20 14:34
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lmao@kazachstan
2011-10-20 16:02
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Saudi Arabia Gobino
Polska = Ghana you shitty fonboys!
2011-10-20 21:33
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Europe neymar'11
did you saw the final?
2011-10-20 16:33
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u are a fan of NEO also as I can see on ur profile? So why are u wastin here dumbass? Whats wrong with bein a FAN of that Legend Explain us?
2011-10-20 16:40
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Saudi Arabia Gobino
i'am not a fanboy neo. dumbass you
2011-10-20 20:18
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ahahah loser wanker
2011-10-20 20:31
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Poland mianoss
how U can vote for gtr in mvp voting? rotfl... he sucks all tournament, cant even do something for sk...
2011-10-20 20:31
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World D3sc4rtes
Gtr is the most consistent player of the tournament, 100 % of his matches with an above 1.00 rating. Did I miss something here??
2011-10-20 22:06
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Poland mianoss
yeah, he played like a noob whole tournament... stats is not everything...
2011-10-21 19:46
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World D3sc4rtes
Sorry, but no. You should not confuse rating with stats. If you only considered stats he would deserve a 1.8x rating, but his overall performance was the most consistent throughout the whole tournament. Judging from what I saw gtr did not play any bad but on one map vs Na'Vi (cannot recall which one) all other performances were pretty good to outstanding. Dunno what you saw but I cannot side with you here.
2011-10-21 20:24
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Poland mianoss
there is some true in that what u write here, but i just wrote what i saw live :) rating and stats is not enough for me :) like we say in Poland - on paper U can write everything. maybe u will understand :)
2011-10-22 19:08
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My vote goes to the TaZ, he deserve it
2011-10-20 14:16
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+1
2011-10-20 15:48
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+1
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#112
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Poland Little Sun
+1 745
2011-10-20 16:58
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2 replies
#115
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Ukraine C4RL
745 ?:D 742
2011-10-20 17:01
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1 reply
#147
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Europe neymar'11
7=t 4=a 2=z taz 5=s tas
2011-10-20 18:21
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#4
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Poland pOsitiOn
gz 742
2011-10-20 14:16
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#5
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Brazil Lanterna0
BEn 10 =)
2011-10-20 14:19
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#6
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United States maktw
Taz ol d way..!!
2011-10-20 14:19
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#7
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United States cyrax <o
Pasha MVP.
2011-10-20 14:20
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#8
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Poland qcq
Neo ant Taz Again rules again ;)
2011-10-20 14:20
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1 reply
#166
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Sweden nobodyknows
"ant" omg
2011-10-20 19:06
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#9
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Italy tabAk
Nice!
2011-10-20 14:21
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#10
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Poland feV
i like news when guys form poland are 70% of post :)
2011-10-20 14:21
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#11
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France Wyrd
So far 42% for f0rest in the dreamteam... trollolol
2011-10-20 14:22
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#82
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Poland ostry0708
as usual for neo/forest :P But so far this year there was no opportunity to overrate neo : )
2011-10-20 16:09
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#12
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Poland bartt
MVP: TaZ DT: TaZ, NEO, aslak, Dosia, GeT_RiGhT
2011-10-20 14:25
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9 replies
#54
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Poland dudman
I voted exactly the same! :)
2011-10-20 15:24
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3 replies
#57
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Serbia Mattias -A-
+1
2011-10-20 15:36
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+1
2011-10-20 15:54
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#150
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Hong Kong AkemiJulia
+1
2011-10-20 18:31
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#179
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Croatia fialkaz0r
+1
2011-10-20 19:54
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i chose the same, but i took edward instead of neo
2011-10-20 19:59
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#198
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Vietnam sgk_12m
the same as mine ^^
2011-10-20 20:39
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#241
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Canada legenDz
nono forget get_right hes not a winner and when they lose he makes it look like his team is shit i got the exact same but sixer instead of get right
2011-10-21 21:21
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#244
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Poland bartt
You don't know what you are talking about.
2011-10-22 12:19
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#13
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Algeria Ainerhpozihcs
taz mvp
2011-10-20 14:25
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#14
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Albania ARLiNd-
aslak mvp
2011-10-20 14:25
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1 reply
#22
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Lithuania deMMM
+1111111
2011-10-20 14:30
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#15
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Europe Saint Elymas
aslak mvp ofc
2011-10-20 14:27
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#16
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Russia 1van.ru
wp tazmanian devil
2011-10-20 14:28
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#18
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Ukraine w4rl0k
TaZ, Neo, pasha, aslak, kuben
2011-10-20 14:29
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#19
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Sweden cilvey
TaZ you are the man !
2011-10-20 14:30
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#20
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Denmark rove`
taz deserves it imo
2011-10-20 14:30
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#21
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Algeria xBr
nice
2011-10-20 14:30
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#24
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France motion:
TaZ, GeT_RiGhT or aslak deserve it, but i voted for TaZ, he was a monster.
2011-10-20 14:34
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#26
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Europe DNNNNNN
TaZ, Neo, PASHA, aslak, GeT_RiGhT
2011-10-20 14:34
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5 replies
#29
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World TheHe
+1
2011-10-20 14:38
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#41
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Poland Jokerov
+1
2011-10-20 14:54
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#123
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Serbia posS
same here +1 ;D
2011-10-20 17:17
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#137
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Slovakia ABzV
same here
2011-10-20 17:35
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#224
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Poland poyar
I was vote for them too
2011-10-20 23:42
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#27
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Czech Republic MisuL
Taz mvp, aslak played very well though.
2011-10-20 14:35
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#28
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Poland ciniu5
taz :)
2011-10-20 14:35
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#30
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Poland dalaylama
all star lineup: TaZ Neo starix Get_Right f0rest
2011-10-20 14:39
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1 reply
#85
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Poland ostry0708
plz tell me why f0rest ? : )
2011-10-20 16:10
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#31
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Poland zoNk!
w0w! Nice shape of TaZ ;o
2011-10-20 14:41
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mvp tAz
2011-10-20 14:41
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GoD_RiGhT
2011-10-20 14:41
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#34
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Denmark bartB
aslak revelation mvp
2011-10-20 14:46
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#35
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
i didnt expect that from taz
2011-10-20 14:46
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#36
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DareDev1L | 
Denmark Dare_Dev1L
I don't get it.. Neo was 7th in the top players list, he STILL has so many votes. TaZ clearly had the greatest time here, and players like aslak really carried the torch for their teams this tournament. How biased can people be?
2011-10-20 14:48
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#44
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Poland perua
look at f0rest... 17 - best rated player and he has still 37%(now) and the second Dosia just 21%... its sad.
2011-10-20 14:57
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4 replies
#52
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DareDev1L | 
Denmark Dare_Dev1L
No one is better than the other by being biased. One person can be a forest fanboy, another a Neo fanboy, third a Delpan fanboy. In the end there's no one with an open mind enough to give players the recognition they deserve for doing their best. Some players regardless of being considered "less skilled" than others, have their days where they play BETTER (for those days). In those days at least, like in this tournament; they should be called out on how they played. I honestly don't think these top players votes on HLTV are very appreciated for what they are.
2011-10-20 15:11
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#114
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Finland Pass_That_40
you got it, I agree 100%. Players should be voted on performance, not on STATUS.
2011-10-20 17:01
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1 reply
#130
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Finland Torspo
Sry replied to wrong person. :----------(
2011-10-20 17:27
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#133
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Finland Torspo
+1 and players have different roles in their teams. I think that affects the scores and the recognition you mentioned as well.
2011-10-20 17:26
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#95
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Poland ostry0708
just look who has better rating than neo - sixer who was out after semis, gtr who played 4 or 5 maps, Dosia who played 4 maps :) And now think about neo's performance in playoffs. I think now it's needless to say why almost everyone's choice was neo (remembering that every1 could choose 5 players). It's weird that you didn't think about f0rest who is overrated in this vote. Peace
2011-10-20 16:17
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#119
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Poland motif
imo taz deserved mvp title, no neo, but i want just to agree with ostry0708, that neo was amazing, just not in group stage, but in playoffs, he was there 2nd best rated after taz, beating all except his teammate, yes, he was there better than dosia, aslak, gtr and others too
2011-10-20 17:05
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#138
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Poland ostry0708
but you didn't get my point :) I mean that neo was definitely top5 - thats dreamteam. Ofcourse mvp goes to taz : )
2011-10-20 17:50
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#132
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Poland bartt
Fortunately we have experts too.
2011-10-20 17:26
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#37
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Poland filipbog
TaZ awesome but not even one pov in here :(
2011-10-20 14:51
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#38
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Lithuania qrad
Taz deserved to be MVP.
2011-10-20 14:51
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#39
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Poland woszek
MVP - taz team - taz, neo, lurppis, gtr, aslak
2011-10-20 14:54
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#42
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Poland Jokerov
How gtr is doing it? Even when SK is beaten early he has awesome ratio and other stuffs. Explain me, pls.
2011-10-20 14:56
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2 replies
#63
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Sweden lidda;D
He's one of the best players, what's more to say?
2011-10-20 15:43
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#160
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World ra5a5a5a5
the weird thing is having him doing a bad tournamnt : P,hes the best player cs has ever offered
2011-10-20 18:57
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#43
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Spain viceNJ_
aslak 53% GOOD PLAYER
2011-10-20 14:57
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#45
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Germany vendir2k
taz MVP ofc great game in this tournament ;)
2011-10-20 15:00
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TaZ(742) MVP Line-up: TaZ,Neo,Pasha,Lurppis & GeT_RiGhT
2011-10-20 15:04
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#47
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Poland Ruszek
17# f0rest was nothing on this tournament and 37% in AS lineup 0.o nice fanboys ALLSTARS: TaZ, Neo, kuben, pasha, GeT_RiGhT MVP TaZ no doubt
2011-10-20 15:05
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#227
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Sweden Sandraa
-kuben +aslak
2011-10-21 07:32
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#48
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Sweden ITFYTD
i have to be amazed that first time ever hltvorg users are voting a deserving candidate hats of guys !!
2011-10-20 15:05
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#49
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Lithuania @Luna
GR FAn fanboys mad :D pff
2011-10-20 15:07
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#50
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NEO | 
Poland camarpl
meh, i'd like this article to show more individual statistics versus top teams, i mean, it's not that impressive for players like taz to do great versus TeG, there should be some more info about his statistics vs Na'Vi, m5; fx. BASIC is 8th player of event, he did awesome against TeG and BGDonLINE but in group stage vs AGAiN bo1 winfakt won 21:9 on nuke and BASIC had 0.78 k/d, vs Na'Vi, navi won 2:1, and basic had less than 0.88 k/d in each map, vs FearFactory, winfakt won 2:0 and basic also had statistics lower than 1.0 in each map so even when winfakt won or were close to winning vs top teams, basic had k/d statistics much lower than 1.0 therefore it is just ultrastupid to say he was 8th player of event and put him in all-star lineup, and this is just an example, i'm sure there are other players who had stats over 1.5 vs low teams and less than 1.0 vs top teams and still are on the top players list also, imo you should mention when players had k/d above 1.0 even though their teams lost match
2011-10-20 15:18
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I really don't understand your frustration, since everything you mentioned is included (such as about BASiC earning his high rating thanks to those 2 matches, TaZ doing awesome vs Na`Vi and being the best player in the playoffs). But I can't go on into detail analysis of every player's every match, the article is too long as it is, imagine what that would become. So some things you have to explore yourself, or just have to figure it out from the text included. And also the thing is, BASiC did play well enough in the rest of his matches to be in the all-star vote, and you saying "basic had k/d statistics much lower than 1.0" is not correct, since his worst was -3 on few occasions which makes it barely below 1.0, while still in the both losses to Na`Vi he was their 2nd best. That's what statistics are showing, that overall he played solid in his matches, while when you compare it to IEM Guangzhou where he also played well vs low teams, but was awful against fnatic in the semifinal, he had overall rating of 1.01 and wasn't included in the allstar vote. All that still doesn't mean he was the 8th best player at this event, that's not the point of the ranking as I always keep trying to point out, the point is to show which players stood out in some way, and the rating is just a way of sorting them. But the rating does show who played well in HIS matches, and it's still a solid way of comparing performances between players from different teams. But as long as they don't all play against the same opponents in same stages of the tournament, it's not a perfect way.
2011-10-20 16:04
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#92
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
i guess he misread... kpd with kpr
2011-10-20 16:13
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#51
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United Kingdom jjustinnng
•34 of 38 entry kills by lurppis led to a round win, more than any other player's •WinFakt overall has a solid record of winning rounds even when they are undermanned early on, but when aslak died first in a round they lost 19 of 22 times •Fear Factory lost the round 17 of 18 times when BEn was taken out first -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i like this :D
2011-10-20 15:09
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#201
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Vietnam sgk_12m
Me too, very interesting. Nice job Tgwri1s :)
2011-10-20 20:44
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AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2011-10-20 15:24
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#55
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Mongolia RAiNN
upload SEC POVs :D
2011-10-20 15:24
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#56
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Poland seeez
taz for MVP taz,aslak,kuben,GeT_RiGhT,pasha
2011-10-20 15:33
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#58
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Poland Ventori
taz for MVP
2011-10-20 15:36
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#59
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World hslola
neo or taz mvp!
2011-10-20 15:38
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#60
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Saudi Arabia Makavile
AGAiN POWER !!!!
2011-10-20 15:38
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#61
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Romania zeusel
why doesn't anyone vote for sixer in the allstar lineup :/
2011-10-20 15:38
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#62
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Sweden lidda;D
TaZ was a monster at this tournament, he really stepped up! Aslak was a beast to with his AWP and was the best player for WinFakt at this tournament for sure. Props to: pasha for playing amazing at the tournament AGAiN, eSAHARA they really shocked me with playing good I thought they would win against FF, NaVi is looking better and better each tournament and starix has finally stepped up and GeT_RiGhT who had a pretty good tournament individually which he also showed at IEM NY. MVP: No doubt about it, TaZ. My five best players: aslak, f0rest, GeT_RiGhT, TaZ and pasha.
2011-10-20 15:42
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#73
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Poland dudman
Forest? Are u sure? Edit it, dont put a shame on you....
2011-10-20 15:57
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12 replies
#80
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Sweden lidda;D
Yes, f0rest. Who whould I put? Neo?
2011-10-20 16:06
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11 replies
#100
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Europe neymar'11
dosia
2011-10-20 16:36
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1 reply
#103
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Sweden lidda;D
Wouldn't think so.
2011-10-20 16:41
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#157
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Croatia hypno123
why not?
2011-10-20 18:55
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8 replies
#175
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Sweden lidda;D
Didn't like how he played at this tournament. When you look at the ratings Neo has a better rating and is placed better than f0rest but you have to remember that Neo had help from especially TaZ and pasha. They played good which makes it easy for Neo to play good. f0rest played good as always but he had a hard job playing because his teammates played bad (RobbaN, face and Delpan). I know that you're a Neo fanboy, not the first time you're replying to me about something that has to do with Neo so there is no point arguing with you because whatever I say, you're going to reply but this, but that, but Neo > all.
2011-10-20 19:35
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#176
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Croatia hypno123
mostly because of NEO they actually won the final. atleast what he deserves is dreamteam(more than aslak f0rest definitely). this sentence is objective and btw i don't agree with u that robban and face played bad but with delpan though, i do.
2011-10-20 19:40
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#178
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Sweden lidda;D
I think the main factor that they won the tournament was because of TaZ's amazing play through out the whole tournament. I would say that pasha was also better than NEO through out the tournament. NEO deserved to be in the Dreamteam more than aslak? Typical NEO fanboy comment, it's pretty obvious that you didn't watch the tournament and aslak. He was a beast. About RobbaN and face, I still stick to what I said ;)
2011-10-20 19:52
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#183
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Croatia hypno123
neo dd2-he killed 3 players per round for several time(entry frags) neo train-amazing AWP on T side(killed markeloff in several occasions;awp duel) definitely man of the final and btw u picked f0rest in a dreamteam? lurppis markeloff(he beaten SK alone)? what about them? i don't think that we have the same definition of "dreamteam" and "MVP award". i think it is stepping up in most important matches and ofc alongside with consistancy during whole tournament but those players MUST play ATLEAST in semi-final and 3rd place decider.
2011-10-20 20:03
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#187
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Sweden lidda;D
Like I said, NEO shined in the finals while pasha and TaZ shined the other matches. Lurppis was good, markeloff too but I think f0rest was more stable through out the whole tournament and that's why I picked him. You have your thoughts about who should be the MVP and in the Dreamteam, I have mine, respect my opinion and I'll respect your. Let me ask you, who do you think is the MVP of the tournament? Please don't say NEO, that would just make you look stupid even though I think you are going to say NEO because you're a fanboy..
2011-10-20 20:15
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#202
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Vietnam sgk_12m
He's gonna say TaZ. And I think you're f0rest fanboy ;)
2011-10-20 20:47
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#229
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Sweden lidda;D
Hmm, actually I've never cheered f0rest and never have. I don't even cheer for SK I only like Delpan in SK, my favorite team is AGAiN actually :)
2011-10-21 08:31
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#205
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Croatia hypno123
definitely taz(as I voted)
2011-10-20 20:51
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#84
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Australia bsharp)
taz stepped up? lmfao, he's already one of the best players for few years
2011-10-20 16:10
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#86
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Sweden lidda;D
He hasn't played like this for a long time. Neo and pasha was their best players during the last tournaments and finally TaZ stepped up.
2011-10-20 16:11
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#90
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Australia bsharp)
oh if u meant recent results, then i have to agree bro
2011-10-20 16:12
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no .. taz always was nr2 pasha had more memorable rounds, but still taz had a higher value
2011-10-20 20:01
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#186
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Sweden lidda;D
That is true, but what I'm trying to say is that pasha played better, in my opinion these last tournaments, don't get me wrong, TaZ played well, he wasn't bad at all.
2011-10-20 20:11
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#136
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Poland bartt
eSAHARA they really shocked me with playing good - If they lost against FF it means they were not play good. My five best players: aslak, f0rest, GeT_RiGhT, TaZ and pasha. - aslak, GeT_RiGhT, TaZ were good, even pasha, but could you tell me why you picked up f0rest in your DT?
2011-10-20 17:30
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#169
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Sweden lidda;D
eSAHARA had a good tournament and they shocked me with how they played, except for the match against FF. 2nd question, because I'm a fanboy, f0rest is the greatest player of all time! No, I'm just kidding. f0rest was pretty stable each game and did what he had to do each game.
2011-10-20 19:30
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#180
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Poland bartt
I agree he was stable but in this case, in every match he was playing so low in comparison to his skills. So really I don't see any reason to pick him to best five players of this tournament. There were a lot of better players. When it comes to eSAHARA, they didn't played well, they just won against SK, that was shocking.
2011-10-20 19:57
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#185
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Sweden lidda;D
Looks like we about have different opinions of who deserves to be in the Dreamteam, I'll just leave it at that so we don't start to argue and talk bad stuff about each other :) I have my opinion and you have your, let's just leave it at that way. :)
2011-10-20 20:08
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#189
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Poland bartt
You are right! Everyone has own opinion :)
2011-10-20 20:20
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#64
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Russia Aforizm
M5 nice!
2011-10-20 15:44
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#65
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Croatia hypno123
MVP : TAZ Allstar Line-Up: aslak pasha taz neo get_right
2011-10-20 15:44
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#66
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Latvia Jose Celas
Dosia NICE!
2011-10-20 15:47
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#67
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Poland jedyny
taz 180~~ R riffle kills its almost 80 kills diffrent between 1 and 2 place wow MVP: Taz Allstar: Taz, Neo, Forest, Aslak Get_right
2011-10-20 15:48
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#134
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Finland teco
Yea but lurppis had 173 kills
2011-10-20 17:27
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#69
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Other sLim^
taz #1 I knew it !
2011-10-20 15:49
0
GJ Stolyarov brothers ;]
2011-10-20 15:49
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#72
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Finland Niksu
aslak was very solid in sec.
2011-10-20 15:55
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#74
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Poland d5
gj Tgwri1s, najs TaZ :D
2011-10-20 15:59
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#76
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Poland oldi
NICE VICTOR!!!
2011-10-20 16:01
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#78
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Germany teh germans?
go for neo mvp vote, polish fanboy army :)
2011-10-20 16:03
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#81
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Poland seeez
polish fanboys vote for TaZ, because he deserved it, neo fanboys always vote for Neo, even if he was worse than pasha and TaZ :)
2011-10-20 16:07
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#88
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Australia bsharp)
umad there aint any german players? :)
2011-10-20 16:11
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#203
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Vietnam sgk_12m
u mad, bro ?
2011-10-20 20:48
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#215
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Poland Dub-C
Don't be scarry for polish fanboy army, having 3 polish players of total 4 to be choosen for MVP is leaving us in a comfortable situation :) Where are the germans, by the way? Can you only handle real weapons? :D
2011-10-20 22:12
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#83
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Bangladesh kappadia
Allstar: MAJ3R, f0rest, Dosia, aslak and kuben
2011-10-20 16:10
0
#87
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Russia redrak
TaZ gj
2011-10-20 16:11
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#89
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Ukraine piratz0r
deserved!
2011-10-20 16:11
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#91
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Russia campari
nice Fox & Dosia
2011-10-20 16:13
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#93
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
voting for neo is not fanboyism. he would definilitely be better ranked if the match imporantce was analysed. i'm not complaining about that, anyway
2011-10-20 16:16
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2 replies
#173
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Poland dudman
But voting for forest is clearly a fanboyism, you have to agree.
2011-10-20 19:33
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1 reply
#204
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Vietnam sgk_12m
agree !
2011-10-20 20:48
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#94
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Russia Arshes
Dosia awesome)
2011-10-20 16:16
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#96
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Russia salatJkee
Fox top awp? Oo
2011-10-20 16:22
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#97
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Brazil JotaenizikA!
Line UP: f0rest GeT_RiGhT TaZ [MVP] Neo[t] markeloFF
2011-10-20 16:28
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1 reply
#240
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Russia SHAq[tw]
- markeloff - Neo +Dosia +GeT_RiGhT
2011-10-21 20:27
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#98
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Lithuania Jaguaras
let taz be mvp! he worth it
2011-10-20 16:29
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#101
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Russia steveNNN
taz get_right neo dosia aslak
2011-10-20 16:36
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#104
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Albania Grannqe
taz,neo,get_right,f0rest,pasha > world
2011-10-20 16:45
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1 reply
#122
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Colombia CHRiSTiaN26
RobbaN, trace, zonic, markeloff, edward >
2011-10-20 17:13
0
#106
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Poland s a i l o r
Well played Taz! Anyway, it has been long time since other Polish team has won so many matches at one tournament. GJ FF!
2011-10-20 16:45
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#107
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China Specster
TAZ OR NEO [because of the final]
2011-10-20 16:46
0
#108
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Latvia caps001
gj winfakt. after every event 3 players or more in top
2011-10-20 16:51
0
#109
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Germany bimucciu
Delpan #5 awp :F
2011-10-20 16:52
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#110
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Poland Lanvin
finally other polish player than neo will be MVP !!!
2011-10-20 16:53
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#111
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Brazil mth_R
Seriously, aslak is amazing, i'm sure he will become a best awper in few times, even with his team don't reaching at good positions, he's always on top. That's pretty good for Finland, with new talents like him, not an overated like jigetus.
2011-10-20 17:02
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2 replies
#128
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Finland FRGVN
i seriously think that jigetus is underrated, they just need more experience as a team and could be possible that lurppis doesnt have new fresh working ideas no more.
2011-10-20 17:23
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1 reply
#139
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Brazil mth_R
I hope he show at lan what he show on his movies.
2011-10-20 17:52
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#113
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Poland kRAMERO
taz deserve it;) LMAO
2011-10-20 17:01
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#116
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Europe gREPUS4SKA!
TaZ or NEO, btw I wish I like to win kuben he played amazing as igl and rifler
2011-10-20 17:04
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#117
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Brazil rwk*
AGAiN :D TaZ
2011-10-20 17:04
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#118
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aizy | 
Poland flvcko
TAZ ithink
2011-10-20 17:05
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#120
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aizy | 
Poland flvcko
Taz always top1 rifles =d
2011-10-20 17:06
0
#121
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World Kobs
sixeR mostly with rifle if i remmeber
2011-10-20 17:09
0
#124
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Algeria SpaYkeN
taz mvp ofc
2011-10-20 17:19
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#125
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Serbia posS
TaZ gratz! MVP for sure
2011-10-20 17:19
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#126
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Romania -69-eNdo
NEO[t] TaZ f0rest GeT_RiGhT aslak
2011-10-20 17:22
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#127
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Finland FRGVN
aslak taz, dosia, get_right, neo, aslak
2011-10-20 17:22
0
MVP NEO
2011-10-20 17:24
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#131
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Poland redirectleft
pasha
2011-10-20 17:25
0
#135
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Portugal Lµney
Nice Taz
2011-10-20 17:30
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#140
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World hslola
NEO!
2011-10-20 17:53
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#141
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Poland htr <3 TaZ0
MVP TAZ !!! taz,neo,aslak,psh,dosia
2011-10-20 17:54
0
#142
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Argentina B3RN4
taz! :D
2011-10-20 17:58
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#143
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Switzerland CHEDEL
5 polish guys in top 10. never expected. =)
2011-10-20 18:01
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8 replies
#145
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Poland ostry0708
NICE :D
2011-10-20 18:03
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#159
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Croatia hypno123
actually 4. there is no LOORD
2011-10-20 18:56
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5 replies
#162
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Switzerland CHEDEL
but ben =)
2011-10-20 19:03
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2 replies
#164
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Croatia hypno123
i realised it second after wrote that comment xD
2011-10-20 19:05
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1 reply
#167
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Switzerland CHEDEL
ahah no problemo dude =)
2011-10-20 19:10
0
open your eyes! Ben+Kuben+Pasha+NEO+TaZ=5, yee I know 2 difficult mathematics 4U...
2011-10-20 19:05
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1 reply
#165
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Croatia hypno123
well i usually relate poland with AGAiN :] so i forgot ben
2011-10-20 19:06
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#234
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Poland vanyaa
GoodGame POLAND :D
2011-10-21 17:26
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#144
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Greece Greek!
NEO MVP! :)
2011-10-20 18:03
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#146
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Brazil hugoooo
f0rest 38%!?! what a fuckin joke!!! damn fanboys! he was just the 17th best player overall by stats, his team was bad, stop licking his balls, be fair with the true best players of this tournament!
2011-10-20 18:17
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2 replies
#161
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Croatia hypno123
we will see expert votes
2011-10-20 19:00
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#174
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Poland dudman
+1
2011-10-20 19:34
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#148
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Netherlands guzzj
TaZ MVP he deserves it!
2011-10-20 18:28
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#149
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United States nounsense
woah robban made a list... a good one at that.
2011-10-20 18:28
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#151
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Argentina srtN0
amazing tournament for TaZ :D
2011-10-20 18:33
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#152
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Taiwan clown226
good job! Taz&Dosia
2011-10-20 18:42
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#153
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Poland qtas
GeT_RiGhT, SIXER, 742, aslak, Dosia
2011-10-20 18:42
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if taz doesnt win, it would be ridiculous
2011-10-20 18:45
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#155
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Bosnia and Herzegovina DRAKEN1
MVP taz DT taz,gtr,starix,lurpis,neo
2011-10-20 18:52
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#156
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Poland woodb1ne
MVP: TAZ DM: PASHA KUBEN BEN TAZ NEO POLSKA!
2011-10-20 18:54
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#158
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Romania drago.bb ;x
i'll vote for ASlak , big names mean nothing for me versus a good performance from time to time
2011-10-20 18:56
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#168
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Ireland Leaphar
very nice work HLTV.org lurppis and aslak was impressive in this tournament :o
2011-10-20 19:10
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#170
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Sweden ZOD!
TAZ ofc!
2011-10-20 19:31
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#171
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Poland kiedro
kuben!
2011-10-20 19:31
0
n1 taz
2011-10-20 19:32
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#177
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World dekisa
Good job!
2011-10-20 19:42
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#184
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FalleN | 
Brazil paumito
People talk about neo fanboys and everything. They're just jealous of how awesome he is. Why I say that? Because markeloff was no good throughout the whole tournament and still he has 24% of votes...
2011-10-20 20:06
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#191
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Poland dzakh.
TaZ n1 NEO n2
2011-10-20 20:21
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#192
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Poland Marcines
MVP TAZ star lineup: pasha,kuben, taz, neo, aslak
2011-10-20 20:28
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2 replies
#195
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f0rest | 
Europe tumorjacka
okay Fx fanidiot what a retard... write all Fx line up then
2011-10-20 20:31
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1 reply
#200
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Poland fikser
Calm down bro. Author of topic has nominated 3 members of FX to MVP title, is he a retard too?
2011-10-20 20:43
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Dosia man!
2011-10-20 20:29
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#199
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Russia illskill
Dosia and Fox nice top pistol and awp)
2011-10-20 20:40
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#207
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Belarus darku
mvp tazik lineup taz fox lurrpis edzie and kuben
2011-10-20 21:01
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#208
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Croatia hypno123
The Polish superstar and definitely the best player of 2011 so far i like the beggining
2011-10-20 21:03
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1 reply
#222
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Poland ostry0708
m2 : )
2011-10-20 23:20
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mvp TAZ taz marik neo gtr aslak
2011-10-20 21:14
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#211
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Lithuania IMix.
taz taz neo kuben pasha x
2011-10-20 21:37
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#213
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World D3sc4rtes
taz, aslak, lurppis, gtr, dosia
2011-10-20 22:08
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#214
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kalu | 
Yugoslavia gemi
pasha also had good game here.Actually,I'm impressed with this guy.Nice.I vote for him..'cause TaZ is already MVP btw.Amazing.
2011-10-20 22:12
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#216
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Poland Qartaiz
MVP: TaZ DT: TaZ, NEO, pasha, aslak, kuben
2011-10-20 22:13
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#217
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Brazil felipeol
line: MAJ3R NEO TaZ aslak JiGetus mVp: TaZ/NEO
2011-10-20 22:23
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1 reply
#218
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Poland seeez
f0rest? ;o GeT_RiGhT/pasha more deserved it
2011-10-20 22:24
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#219
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Poland lolcate
Taz - mvp get_right, taz, ben, markeloff, dosia - lineup
2011-10-20 22:49
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Taz,neo,loord Again = they are like 40 years and they are still playing cs.
2011-10-20 23:05
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1 reply
#248
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Croatia hypno123
23-24
2011-10-22 18:35
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#221
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World Harucifer
My MVP vote goes for neo despite TaZ's amazing performance. If it weren't for neo, they wouldn't be there.
2011-10-20 23:14
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#223
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Switzerland Andreia
taz
2011-10-20 23:39
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#225
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United Kingdom eurobank
Taz - MVP (obvious) Taz, Neo, Ben, Gtr, aslak
2011-10-21 02:01
0
#226
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Russia patsan
ns brother stolyarovi
2011-10-21 07:19
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MVP taz
2011-10-21 08:00
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#230
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Poland p 7k
TAZ - MVP TAZ , NEO , BEn , PASHA , KUBEN top5 from POL
2011-10-21 10:43
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TaZ vs TeG on de_inferno - 45:16 (+29), 2.19 rating (+76%) WTF ?! nice TAZ ! :D
2011-10-21 13:25
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#232
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Poland WisHer
TaZ deserved !!
2011-10-21 15:08
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#233
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World hslola
TAZ through whole tournament but NEO was fucking siick in the final
2011-10-21 16:11
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#235
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Poland vanyaa
MVP TaZ of course ;)
2011-10-21 17:30
0
MVP taz : D
2011-10-21 18:34
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#245
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Poland borsuk19
Hardest to kill: Jakub 'kuben' Gurczynski (0.53 deaths per round) hahaha
2011-10-22 12:28
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#246
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Russia Defoug
he always sits in corner on the plant and wait when his team will take round!
2011-10-22 14:14
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#247
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Syria 4evahgone
sec2011 is poles' stage!
2011-10-22 18:34
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