EG to disband - Report

7-1-2012 00:06

After rumours going on for months that Evil Geniuses was going to stop sponsoring its CS team at the end of 2011, it seems the rumours have come true and the team itself has disbanded in the process.

The rumours started a couple of months ago when EG's CS team's leader, Andrew "Irukandji" Timmerman's logs were leaked where he said CS wasn't worth putting a lot of effort into anymore with their sponsorship not being renewed for 2012.

Timmerman has now confirmed his retirement on ESEA forums due to him starting dental school and not having enough time to dedicate for CS anymore. The team lost another player in Paul "pauLy" Guerboyan just under a week ago to UMX.

Irukandji retires from competitive Counter-Strike

According to Derek "dboorN" Boorn the team tried adding different players on their ESEA roster to finish out the current season, but were unable to do so due to a site glitch which forced them to forfeit the rest of the current season.

Evil Geniuses was:

Derek "dboorN" Boorn
Andrew "Irukandji" Timmerman
Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert
Thomas "thoMz" Garcia

The news are yet to be confirmed by the EG organization but as the players themselves have posted it multiple times on forums, it is likely simply a matter of time.

With the former Evil Geniuses squad losing its sponsorship, it is unlikely they will be able to travel to IEM6 Global Challenge Kiev. If they decided to not attend, the first team in line to replace them will be Natus Vincere.

n0thing to UMX

2012-01-07 00:07

12 replies

n0thing+trace+moddii+kalle+pronax LoL

2012-01-07 00:34

5 replies

usa+denmark+sweden+norway+sweden LoL

2012-01-07 01:04

3 replies

Well, if n0thing, somehow, moved to Denmark, Sweden or Norway, it would be the sickest team. But it is probably not gonna happend :P

2012-01-07 02:55

1 reply

2012-01-07 12:44

hahahaha =DD

2012-01-07 13:57

lol, nice idea! :D

2012-01-07 10:48

UMX to EG and n0thing

2012-01-07 03:40

why not in check6

2012-01-07 05:09

4 replies

Is Check Six fRoD and co.? If so, probably because the whole reason EG split up in the first place is because fRoD and n0thing don't get on. Not 100%, but that's what I heard.

2012-01-07 05:14

3 replies

yeah, fRoD, storm, hiko where do u heard this? shit they were best american combination =\

2012-01-07 05:19

not true at all. dboorn and irukandji were huge trolls and thats what caused all the drama. heard it from Xp3 himself.

2012-01-07 14:39

1 reply

I see, cheers.

2012-01-07 14:42

sad america is dead

2012-01-07 00:07

15 replies

america?? the world!! :S remember it said "FalleN"

2012-01-07 00:43

9 replies

FalleN can't play alone vs five enemies.

2012-01-07 00:45

8 replies

that is why i support cloning humans

2012-01-07 01:19

7 replies

:DDD in this case it would be nice, because fallen is a great awper, a great igl and a good rifler :P

2012-01-07 02:05

6 replies

tell me when you quit licking his ass.

2012-01-07 06:07

5 replies

hey I am not a FalleN fan at all. I'm not those fanboys who say "FalleN > markeloff" etc but we have to agree that he is a great player =)

2012-01-07 13:43

Stop talking shit.

2012-01-07 14:48

3 replies

I'm not even talking about your life, so...

2012-01-07 18:23

2 replies

I see banned people.

2012-01-08 21:41

1 reply

Oh, does that mean you're already in the ban group? That sucks bro.

2012-01-09 00:49

nah we got young talent ;D EG is supposivly sponsoring another team...im thinking UMX since THERE zowie sponsorship just ended

2012-01-07 01:32

3 replies

highly doubt it, they are refocusing on sc2

2012-01-07 02:33

there are great players in NA but they need a great sponsor.

2012-01-07 13:47

they've put too much money into sc2, UMX is getting sponsored but not by EG. Can't say who, but everyone will see soon enough.

2012-01-07 22:14

hahah

2012-01-07 10:43

Here we go...

2012-01-07 00:07

omg

2012-01-07 00:08

CS dying...

2012-01-07 00:09

15 replies

STFU, the US gaming scene has been dead since the CGS.

2012-01-07 00:21

14 replies

I apologize in advance for the long as fuck post, tl;dr version at the bottom. I agree that the US scene has been dying since the CGS but the rest of the scene isn't doing too well either. Just bring up the news archive for 2011 here at HLTV and you would see that a lot of influential players have stopped playing for one reason or another in 2011 alone. Guys like solo, bail, dsn, ave and now Irukandji who is arguably one of the better American players. Those are just names that come to mind, I'm sure I'm missing quite a few influential players not only in respect to the world but also in respect to any given region. It wont be long before the guys from SK, fnatic, NaVi, mousesports ect disband if the competition continues to disappear and the money to send them to events stops rolling in. Its a cruel, sad truth of the matter. I don't challenge these guys passion for the game but I'm quite sure players will stop playing when the money stops coming and there is no reason to blame anyone for doing so. What can we do? Well, there are two options, in my opinion. We can make a push for CSP or we can get our hands dirty and make CS:GO into a better game. In all honesty, the latter is the smarter move. Before you verbally rip me apart, allow me to explain. I think we should support CSP. There was a time about a couple years ago where CSP was in a really good place but the problem was nobody was playing the game and people would attack their project without even playing it. Its a great game, and its not where it should be in terms of being in the competitive circuit but their recent push to move the game ahead has been really inspirational. They welcomed 2 new weapon modelers and a new player modeler to their team. They are in the process of remaking Dust2 from scratch and they are planning on bringing their project out of beta before the end of 2012. There is a lot of potential there. Here is the problem with CSP and why CS:GO may be the smarter move for this scene to migrate to. CSP wont be a game that brings back old players. CSP will be like 1.6 and those who are the best right now will be the best in CSP and that means the results wont change and it wont "reset" things. If a player like heaton or Spawn or even Irukandji or fr0d or ksharp or method or shaguar or all these players who have quit over the year, wanted to make a return with whatever new game we go for, they wouldn't stand a chance and we would be in the same situation where the same teams are placing high and events are generally less interesting to watch than say circa 2001-2006. CS:GO isn't a good game right. It really isn't. The thing is though, its fixable. When I say fixable, I don't mean that we can make it like 1.6, I mean that we can make it a respectable competitive game by its own right and that's what this community needs. It needs a new Counter-Strike that is competitively viable but still its own game that asks for similar but not the same skill set from 1.6. It needs to be a game where anyone who has an understanding of theory and concepts in 1.6 can make the switch and play but it also needs to be a game that doesn't mimic spray patterns, spam spots or player movement because then we wont be going anywhere. We would be in the same place and there would be no incentive for players to try and overcome players who have a ton more experience. I love to use the example of Street Fighter. With Street Fighter 3, there were a lot of great players. Tokido, Daigo, Gootecks, Justin Wong, just to name a few. When Street Fighter 4 came out, it was a vastly different game but these players remained in the running because of their understanding of the game since Street Fighter 2 and that's great. The thing is though, a ton of players who never even touched a Street Fighter game jumped into the mix and the community grew exponentially. Now instead of having 100-200 people in a room watching an event, you had thousands and even a few more on streams and the scene had expanded in a way unlike before. Players who had quit years ago had returned, new players were competing with these legends from previous games and there is a generally awesome environment. tl;dr: CS is dying but there is hope in CSP and CS:GO. CSP needs support and a community of players willing to play their game and CS:GO needs players who are willing to help make a new competitive game that doesn't mimic 1.6 but instead is a new game entirely.

2012-01-07 01:03

13 replies

I wonder if anyone read this wall of text. Please give me a summary.

2012-01-07 01:31

1 reply

me2

2012-01-07 13:38

Yep, agree, good post.

2012-01-07 01:45

I agree with everything you said here and CS:GO is without a doubt the only chance we have of seeing counter-strike be relevant in the future. However, if CSP does come out, and it is what everyone has been hoping for, it could possibly give the cs 1.6 players 2-3 more years of the game they love. CS 1.6 is, in my opinion, the best FPS ever made for competitive play and we may never see a game this perfect again. The nuances of it's game-play and the skill it takes to use them correctly are what set it apart from every other game I have played in my 10 or so years of gaming. Crouch hopping, spamable walls, bunny hopping/air acceleration, tapping crouch to peak over boxes, etc are all features that will never been seen again due to the fact that they're not 'realistic'. I know I said it before but being able to use all of these features correctly are what separate the average from the good, the good from the great, and the great from the best. Not to mention the mental aspect of the game is far and above anything else I have seen in an FPS. Although it saddens me to say, I am nearing the end of my gaming years and maybe this is why I feel the way I do. I would rather have 2-3 more years of the great game that we all know and love before I stop gaming rather then have to play Valve's rendition of a source/1.6 fusion that has yet to show me anything enticing (of course that is subject to change). Basically, pump me full of morphine and let me die in peace.

2012-01-07 01:53

i agree what you say, i think cs go will be the "next" ,but its sad that we have been playing this game many years, and its hard to change it, it will be allways in our hearts :)

2012-01-07 02:01

I agree, we should support Valve (mainly with lots of feedback) now that they are willing to listen to us.

2012-01-07 02:06

+1 bro

2012-01-07 02:21

wait, i'll get my glasses

2012-01-07 03:40

I agree about what you said about CSP. It really needs support. I've tested a beta but there was too many bugs, still, it was really great to play. But yo, "and now Irukandji who is arguably one of the better American players", really??!! I don't follow the US scene, i'm just asking. I've just looked a few match in Irukandji's POV, he doesn't seem to be better than n0thing or pauLy.

2012-01-07 04:55

Well said, I completely agree. I personally feel that CSP's gameplay is far superior to that of GO at the current time, yet the latter has a far greater chance of success as an esport due to what will be a huge playerbase and reach to the casual players, even across platforms. CSP may succeed as a game in its own right, but unfortunately, I just don't see the players migrating to it like they would to CS:GO. The longevity of a game as an esport relies on a casual audience to feed new players into the community, and I just can't see CSP attracting that right now with CS:GO's release upon us in the coming year.

2012-01-07 05:48

+1 said so once, said so a million times. Change isn't always the best felt solution, but sometimes it is necessary.

2012-01-07 10:35

you cqnnot compare street fighter, which is a spamming playalot game to CS1.6 L0L on topic EG was nowhere near top20 right now anyway

2012-01-07 10:58

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy that you're helping to bring about. The argument that we should support a game we don't like to fend off a threat that only exists if we stop supporting the game we do like is both cowardly and self-defeating.

2012-01-07 13:18

;( baaaad

2012-01-07 00:09

omg n0thing :(

2012-01-07 00:12

N0thing. Please go to a top team, you deserved much more than EG's current line-up. ;( Sad day for you

2012-01-07 00:10

9 replies

I agree, with all the teams mixing nationalities these days I believe n0thing would do well in a top team. Especially since he doesn't have problems speaking English, although it might be hard since I doubt Americans are taught like any European languages (except maybe Spanish) so I doubt he could join any teams that aren't willing to switch to English.

2012-01-07 00:14

8 replies

no problem, he can just join one of the top UK teams. oh wait...

2012-01-07 00:22

3 replies

lol =D

2012-01-07 00:25

N1:D:D:D:D

2012-01-07 00:40

2012-01-07 03:10

top team : umx.us

2012-01-07 00:50

3 replies

and back2back very good team

2012-01-07 01:33

1 reply

2012-01-07 01:36

pretty sure b2b is much better than umx, even once they integrate pauLy into their strats

2012-01-07 01:38

sad for EG and n0thing but IEM GC will be epic with NaVi :)))!!!!

2012-01-07 00:10

American e-sport have been dead since after team like 3D and coL's good days.

2012-01-07 00:11

4 replies

yeah but you wouldnt know, you started with cs like 2009?

2012-01-07 00:31

1 reply

I started 2004.

2012-01-07 01:18

You mean CS, because they have good players in other titles such as SC2 LoL or DotA 2..

2012-01-07 15:54

1 reply

Of course I only mean CS.

2012-01-07 19:06

nice for Na'Vi :)

2012-01-07 00:11

That's too bad, I guess it will be a while until we see another US/Canadian team playing across seas. Well best of luck anyway, and GL Na'vi if you end up getting a spot.

2012-01-07 00:12

Yes! NaVi to Kiev!

2012-01-07 00:12

2 replies

+1 GOGOGO NAVI TO IEM6

2012-01-07 00:13

yea, EG wouldn't do any dmg so this is good s, the spectators.

2012-01-07 00:24

YEEEEEEEEEAH

2012-01-07 00:13

This was expected, gl in the future.

2012-01-07 00:13

without mibr and EG, cs in america is dead =(

2012-01-07 00:13

2 replies

and without 3D and ex. Col yea america's cs-scene isdead :S

2012-01-07 00:14

1 reply

yes really sad

2012-01-07 00:15

IEM6 kiev will be fucking sick tour

2012-01-07 00:13

1 reply

Just needs ESC now :/

2012-01-07 13:20

This is hardly a loss for the competition level of current events, but of course it's another sad event for the 1.6 scene. I just wonder how much time the players have even dedicated to cs this year anyway since their results in ESEA have been pretty terrible for EG standards

2012-01-07 00:13

Not happy Christmas :(

2012-01-07 00:14

good bye. Expected =/

2012-01-07 00:14

I've been hearing CS is dead since the beta version so stop with this bullshit.

2012-01-07 00:16

1 reply

no one is saying that cs is dead, but americans and even brazillian teams they can't go to europe, asia to compete without a good sponsor

2012-01-07 00:24

So sad, always liked EG :/ But I like NaVi even more.!!!<3333333 NaVi go Kiev!<3

2012-01-07 00:17

sad but expected :[ hope n0thing will find a team ;[

2012-01-07 00:17

sad for n0thing

2012-01-07 00:18

too sad for cybersport at all. great for Na'Vi. This chance must be totally used.

2012-01-07 00:19

:(....The Old EG :SSSS : n0thing,irukandji,dboorn,fRod;storm :/

2012-01-07 00:19

counter strike is moving from america to asia.. interesting..

2012-01-07 00:19

2 replies

moving? lol

2012-01-07 00:27

WHAT?

2012-01-07 00:41

this brings a lot of possibilities to american cs, people are seeing it as a bad thing i see it as a positive. all the potential teams with the following players: frod storm hiko dizza xp3 n0thing pauly hero dboorn inertia flowsick slip steno truls thomz

2012-01-07 00:22

15 replies

american cs isnt just NORTH AMERICAN... have Brazil on america also... have teams like MANDIC, GAMERHOUSE and OPENGAME(maybe) to represent america on cs...

2012-01-07 00:24

11 replies

ok north american cs**

2012-01-07 00:26

HAHAHAHAHA CANT STOP LAUGHING R U BEING SERIOUS? OPENGAME? wake up brothA we are talking about CS on its highest level opengame can't even win mandic, that is a low team comparated to Na`Vi, SK, fnatic, mouz, ESC, ex-mTw, WinFakt and many others european teams

2012-01-07 00:33

8 replies

which is a low team* my bad xd

2012-01-07 00:44

you read my post ??? i'm talking about AMERICA, not EUROPE, stupid guy -.-

2012-01-07 01:16

6 replies

"have teams like MANDIC, GAMERHOUSE and OPENGAME(maybe) to represent america on cs..." :)

2012-01-07 01:45

5 replies

i've said AMERICA, not AMERICA & europe, lol :::D

2012-01-07 01:53

4 replies

lol if you are representing america you are playing against teams from another countries to represent america, right? dont know if u'll understand it :P

2012-01-07 01:55

3 replies

to represent america = vs. america teams...-.-

2012-01-07 01:59

2 replies

the way you put it means to represent america on an international level. o.o

2012-01-07 03:51

1 reply

He doesn't know what he is writing xD mindfuck

2012-01-07 13:30

lol

2012-01-07 00:56

yeah I thought the same but EG was the best american team (~top10 world) with the best american players don't know if those players you mentioned are good enough

2012-01-07 00:34

none of this guys united cannot play in the level that EG played with lurp, let's not say about the 3d/Col times. NA cs is dead.

2012-01-07 02:00

n0thing storm frod choose 2...

2012-01-07 13:27

cs = europe

2012-01-07 00:21

would be such a shame if n0thing retired. one of the best players in the world and he has never won a big tournament :/

2012-01-07 00:22

7 replies

n0thing is like FalleN in Brazil both are great players but in their coutries there are no players who are better/in the same level as them

2012-01-07 00:47

6 replies

Just mix k1ck's fox, xhiroz, fallen, n0thing and 1 igl. Would be such a pleasure to watch

2012-01-07 00:53

5 replies

hahah like NoA :)

2012-01-07 02:02

lol? so how do you think they will be train with each other? Brazilians have 80+ ping on European servers, am I right?

2012-01-07 03:03

3 replies

we got at least 220+

2012-01-07 04:12

Wasnt talking serious at all. My point was: Theyre all pure talent beeing wasted.

2012-01-07 12:35

lol i have 80+ ping on BRAZILIAN servers

2012-01-07 15:30

so navi will go to iem Kiev? yyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeehhhhhh btw EG was my favourite team from all America that's really sad (( #2 for me from America is Mandic

2012-01-07 00:23

n0thing Moddii Kalle Pronax barbarr

2012-01-07 00:24

3 replies

hahahaha :D

2012-01-07 00:25

hehe :D

2012-01-07 02:23

-barbarr +trace :D

2012-01-07 21:34

nothing new.

2012-01-07 00:24

so who will replace EG in Kiev ? mouz or navi ?

2012-01-07 00:24

7 replies

NaVi

2012-01-07 00:25

6 replies

are u sure ? cuz mouz is before navi's spot..

2012-01-07 00:27

5 replies

look at the final paragraph... and i'm sure...

2012-01-07 00:33

Mouz got the place because an asian team got left out, and now navi playes insted of eg

2012-01-07 00:37

Mouz already have their spot due to no Asian team attending, hltv.org/news/7998-mousesports-to-iem6-g..

2012-01-07 00:40

1 reply

2012-01-07 00:42

mouz's alrdy filled up in the asian empty slot

2012-01-07 05:09

It means navi to IEM Global CHallenge Kiev :))

2012-01-07 00:28

1 reply

then it's good if they fold, btw eg weren't a top team in my opinion

2012-01-07 00:29

From now, it is almost oficial, that CS 1.6 is alive ONLY in Europe :(

2012-01-07 00:33

6 replies

yeah.. and that's sad :/ but european cs is getting better and better :) Na`Vi were "no namers" and just raped everyone in 2010. In 2011 things were different with the new SK roster and the comeback from NEO and co. And 2012 of course will be a great year too.

2012-01-07 00:37

lol in USA 1.6 die 2-3 ago

2012-01-07 00:51

4 replies

years

2012-01-07 02:05

3 replies

They still had EG, a world class team.

2012-01-07 11:41

2 replies

i think mandic is/was at least as good as eg

2012-01-07 15:33

1 reply

You're right, I consider it, but he made the point about US :) And yeah mandic is the last hope of the both Americas.

2012-01-07 16:45

OMG!

2012-01-07 00:34

NaVi at IEM6 yeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2012-01-07 00:38

1 reply

fck yeahhh

2012-01-07 01:02

Americans stopped competing with the Europeans when 3D/col moved to CGS :P

2012-01-07 00:46

CS is dying... really sad :(

2012-01-07 00:47

nooo, cs 1.6 dying.

2012-01-07 00:50

n0thing you're a waste for the cs usa.

2012-01-07 01:11

:( very sad n0thing :((

2012-01-07 01:13

sad for n0thing

2012-01-07 01:17

sad

2012-01-07 01:18

n0thing =((((

2012-01-07 01:18

Anyway, gl in real life boyz, especially n0thing

2012-01-07 01:27

n0thing to CheckSix :X

2012-01-07 01:28

2 replies

according to kluluz, storm and frod don't want to play with him

2012-01-07 01:55

1 reply

nevermind this post, it was a statement by someone using the name but not the real person

2012-01-07 02:23

sucks that n0thing came into the game so late when it was already in a decline, and he didnt really have a chance at playing for a big time team...good luck in whatever u do man, i hated irukanjdi anyway so im glad hes gone.

2012-01-07 01:30

1 reply

yes,sad 4 him, c'est la vie!

2012-01-07 01:36

-pita +n0thing

2012-01-07 01:36

n0thing go to CheckSix

2012-01-07 01:38

n0thing the best wallbanger

2012-01-07 01:39

n0thing to europe !!! GOGOOG

2012-01-07 01:45

1 reply

Highly doubtful according to lurppis, hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=99436#r2676..

2012-01-07 02:50

:/ BAD news

2012-01-07 01:48

wtf,many sponsors was left from CS 1.6 at 1 year...=( TCM, mTw, FX, FF, EG...just only 1 year(Jan 2011~Jan 2012) so sad...

2012-01-07 01:48

bad for n0thing, good for NV

2012-01-07 01:49

It's now or never Torbull. www.Team3d.com

2012-01-07 01:50

3D , NEVER SAY NEVER.

2012-01-07 01:53

badz0rd :/ gl for all

2012-01-07 01:53

n0thing fRoD storm dizzaman Warden

2012-01-07 01:53

9 replies

frod and storm won't play with n0thing according to kluluz esea.net/index.php?s=forums&d=topic&id=3..

2012-01-07 02:01

7 replies

please past it here, unregistered users can't acess to it.

2012-01-07 02:15

5 replies

sorry forgot He quotes this post: Referenced post #109 by ArmaLite But still, shouldnt have wasted n0things time this season. This guy could have easily been on x6 if he knew this was coming lol. and says himself: #109 pretty sure frod and storm dont wanna play with him edit: nevermind that's just some faggot using the name kluluz^G not the real kluluz

2012-01-07 02:23

4 replies

fayul :D

2012-01-07 03:03

rofl @ you

2012-01-07 04:28

2 replies

in my defense kluluz used the esea nick kluluz^g for a long ass time :(

2012-01-07 04:42

1 reply

I made the rofl @ you because I didnt read and said something else =D so rofl @ me

2012-01-07 04:53

thanks for info man

2012-01-07 05:50

+1 :)

2012-01-07 10:27

unexpected....

2012-01-07 01:59

it might be the time of an american player( n0thing) to travel overseas :) maybe he can team up with trace and friends? i dont know i'm just saying :> or maybe trace and nothing can team up with pronax kalle and moddii from esc?? They would kick ass on paper :P

2012-01-07 02:11

nice, na`vi @ Kiev!

2012-01-07 02:12

2 replies

some american team deserves invite!

2012-01-07 02:14

1 reply

not as much as Na`Vi.

2012-01-07 02:15

huhuhu eg website down so maybe really release ?

2012-01-07 02:19

one man in esea forum says : nothing is retire and go return to school

2012-01-07 02:30

Whats with USA-nians and long post.

2012-01-07 02:30

omg

2012-01-07 02:36

what HEADPHONES is dat..... ........

2012-01-07 02:41

1 reply

Those are the headsets used for the stage matches.

2012-01-07 02:45

time for my team to join the top4 other USA teams lmao n0thing to x6 :D

2012-01-07 02:43

EG is the only organization capable of sending 5 guys overseas... cs in whole America is dead.

2012-01-07 02:46

LOL :s

2012-01-07 02:46

eg needs mandic + n0thing

2012-01-07 02:50

- ellllll + n0thing

2012-01-07 03:03

n0thing to x6

2012-01-07 03:12

lurppis needs to sit down with n0thing and teach him finnish.

2012-01-07 03:19

a team! :)

2012-01-07 03:42

Temp go to EG + Nothing

2012-01-07 03:43

dude n0thing to checksix in place for hiko would be sick fRoD n0thing Storm Xp3 dizzaman !!!? NOT AWESOME OR WHAT?

2012-01-07 03:55

4 replies

2012-01-07 03:55

+102120185012 top ct player -storm- best awper -frod- top aimer wallbanger everything -n0thing- it would work

2012-01-07 04:15

i think we all people present on hltv.org should make an effort by convincing frod and storm to take n0thing in x6(coz i heard they have some issues with nothing),maybe through any forum,or official facebook,twitter pages of these guys. just an opinion.

2012-01-07 08:50

Great lineup on paper but I guess their chemistry wouldn't be so so good

2012-01-07 12:31

Finally.

2012-01-07 04:37

EG hasnt been EG since stevenson anyway...

2012-01-07 04:43

i am rly rly happy to read the last sentence you wrote, lurppis GGGOGOGGOGOGOGOG Na'vi

2012-01-07 04:58

team From-Everywhere: FalleN foxj xhiroz MODDII n0thing

2012-01-07 05:08

1 reply

the lost legends lol

2012-01-07 12:03

why f**ng NaVi go to Kiev , try to call mandic or another American team , UMX.usa , checkSix !!! damn not Na´Vi

2012-01-07 06:31

2 replies

hater detected

2012-01-07 14:08

1 reply

U MAD?

2012-01-08 20:33

davay storm

2012-01-07 06:32

nOthing to 3D

2012-01-07 07:05

mouz +nothing -zonixx

2012-01-07 07:21

good move by EG

2012-01-07 07:36

some dude said 3D would come back, well this is the perfect time

2012-01-07 08:12

I remeber EG whit fRoD STORM n0thing lurrpis gfn not this shitty lineup..........to bad cs is gone in usa.. after countrys like Norway , Danemark , Spain , Romania , Korea , China lost they motivation for the game..

2012-01-07 09:28

Cs gna b dead very soon in d cumin years....:(

2012-01-07 09:35

expected...

2012-01-07 09:40

Sad for CS; good for Na'vi.

2012-01-07 09:44

5 replies

Why good for Na`Vi?

2012-01-07 10:02

4 replies

because they will go to IEM VI Global Challenge Kiev instead of EG

2012-01-07 10:08

3 replies

That makes no sense, this isn't good for anyone. EG disbanding means one less competitive top team. Na'Vi not going to this tournament meant nothing seeing as how they'd certainly be at multiple others.

2012-01-07 13:20

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"Na'Vi not going to this tournament meant nothing" I don't agree. Now that they probably will gonna participate in GC Kiev, this also means that Na`Vi will have a chance qualify to IEM World Championship, which will start later on this year. No matter that they're defending champs, they still don't have a spot in the finals. And as you might known, IEM World Championship is probably top2 tournament of CS, alongside with ESWC (and maybe even DreamHack too). So... And what about EG is that they have almost been gone from CS World Scene last year. They only have participated in 2 tournaments outside of NA: IEM5 World Championship (Germany) WCG Pan-America (Brazil) Well and they also have participate in: IEM6 Global Challenge New York ESEA That's it. So it's not a big loss for the world scene, maybe for North and South America scenes.

2012-01-07 14:55

Yeah, EG disband is not good for USA scene, less for european one. EG wasn't a top team nowadays, they lost their chances when lurppis, and frod and storm later left the team.

2012-01-07 14:58

Expected... I want to see n0thing in a top team.

2012-01-07 10:01

CS is dead here in the U.S. I only load 10 servers on steam. Esea is dead. The sponsors cant afford to pay ,top cs players here, for events and contracts cause our generations are moving to xbox's and ps3's. PC GAMING IS DEAD IS THE US. /cry

2012-01-07 10:17

yesssssssssss +Na'Vi at iem6 kiev

2012-01-07 10:19

It's better, with Na`Vi whole thing will be more interesting to watch.

2012-01-07 10:40

the last year of CS scene?

2012-01-07 10:49

sad but expected... n0thing should join b2b something like Semphis-Sgares-swag-n0thing-eleint/noswal would be n1ce

2012-01-07 10:57

noo :( only interesting thing is we'll be able to see how navi will cheat this time

2012-01-07 11:02

Expected.. The only hope is that all the best players in USA build a team together and play for an organization that could send them to tournaments etc.

2012-01-07 11:17

n0thing to europe!

2012-01-07 11:21

Where can i find the logs?

2012-01-07 11:47

2 replies

in the forest.

2012-01-07 12:47

1 reply

^_^

2012-01-16 22:09

n0thing to CheckSix

2012-01-07 12:09

Expected, n0thing to England, and to make new Dignitas.cs team;D

2012-01-07 12:20

cs is too old, u'll see european teams will disband, maybe except sk,fnatic (big organizations) but the rest

2012-01-07 12:42

n0thing have to play with fRoD, they're the 2 best

2012-01-07 12:44

good to see NA`VI in place of EG NA`VI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EG nice competition ahead

2012-01-07 12:47

lurrpis thats not a bullshit about NaVi raplace EG? I hear from carmac interview thats first team to raplace anyone is mousesports... and if mousessports wont come 2nd is NaVi... nad what about 2nd place qualifier for america Check Six??? its americas team cant come maybe americas second team qualifier can raplace it????

2012-01-07 12:51

5 replies

read all the news..

2012-01-07 13:00

4 replies

i read it and i ask him a quetion? thats all seems to me strange... on global tournament all teams from europe, no american team no asian team... CS 1.6 dead? and why NaVi to replace EG? if second american qualifier is Check Six???? Where`s Asian Teams?

2012-01-07 13:05

3 replies

The teams are assigned by last IEM GC qualifiers, any asian team didn't decided to go to Kiev, so next from IEM GC Kiev quals. was mousesports, after them, Anexis-Na`Vi(Na`Vi won the match to determine 7th place) so they will replace next team who won't come to the tournament

2012-01-07 13:10

2 replies

Yes CS 1.6 is not global anymore... i cant find even asian qualifiers for this event... CS going to be dead... 100000% at least out of competition whats very sad ;(

2012-01-07 13:14

1 reply

be quiet plz (

2012-01-07 15:21

nothing + to any european team.

2012-01-07 13:01

The Challenge in Kiev will be Global as fuck now... One more time only teams from europe - this is getting less interesting every year.

2012-01-07 13:02

-basic +nothing

2012-01-07 13:07

lol cs is died slowly

2012-01-07 13:09

5 replies

nop, the only thing that is dying, is trolls,,, they are extinct now.. ;(

2012-01-07 13:13

4 replies

it is dying and thats a fact... place2play.ru/material?id=7953 Interview with carmac... i hope u able read russian most of latvians do...

2012-01-07 13:16

if u want u can look around the internet more interviews like with NaVi manager:place2play.ru/material?id=7942 and others and all telling a same, cs 1.6 going to be out of competition and dead...

2012-01-07 13:20

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.... just look at the numbers, the people that watch cs, they are in hundreads of thousands. you think cs can die so easily? Yes, it will die, but not in the near future, maybe in some year 2018, but not in the near future, thats for sure. btw, yes i am able to read russian, but not fluently, so its easier for me just to use google translator :P

2012-01-07 14:07

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why 2018 why not 2020 or maybe 2025... or maybe 2012??? i love this game if u will make and sponsor global range tournaments, then maybe... And about numbers what u want me to say? a lot of people watch CS? NO!!! check any starcraft 2 tournament and numbers of people who watch it... I can truly say CS have more vievers then CSS, but thats not enough for Big tournament makers, because game become not global anymore... maybe there is a lot of ppl playing cs1.6 around the world but they play just for fun... and valve cant make much more money out of this game and they will do everythink to replace it with CS:Go if they fail Big tournament makers will find some other shooter game to replace Cs 1.6 Because only europe have a lot of teams and they want all the world participiate in the game... Dont be naive! Yes there will be people who will remain with playing this game, but just for fun, because in tournaments will be some other shooter game, it will be CS:Go or something alse we will see...

2012-01-07 14:27

plz stop saying that cs gonna dying players quit and teams disbands BUT new talents comes and makes new teams

2012-01-07 13:39

sad for Esports in general, but good for Na`Vi to attend IEM 6 Kiev. now n0thing needs to get in x6.

2012-01-07 13:50

who cares ?

2012-01-07 13:56

USA CS IS DEAD :<

2012-01-07 13:58

n0thing plz get a good team

2012-01-07 14:16

bad.. n0thing deserves a good team.

2012-01-07 14:37

sad bad.. ):

2012-01-07 15:32

coL is back?

2012-01-07 15:40

no!!!!!!!!!!

2012-01-07 15:41

OMG, this is bad, sad, so long and now there is no more EG. changing the subject i ask a question, because people are so stupid to say that the CS is dying? why ? like to read your comment to be insulted or simply people who write but do not you think ?

2012-01-07 15:52

1 reply

give me a link from IEM asia qualification please

2012-01-07 16:21

It wasn't a glitch on the system, it appears to be user error that prevented them from getting new players on their roster in time. No other teams in our entire league reported any similar issues.

2012-01-07 18:49