Copenhagen Games preview

Four weeks after IEM6 World Championship almost all the best teams in the world are traveling to Copenhagen for the next big event of the year - Copenhagen Games 2012.

Copenhagen Games features an interesting tournament format this year with eight groups of four in a best-of-three format taking up almost the entire first day of the event, as only the first round of upper bracket is played. Day two features a sixteen team double elimination bracket, where the upper bracket is played in best-of-three format once again, but lower bracket is best-of-one.

The new format might change the outcome as teams don't simply get knocked out of the tournament when they face a stronger team like in single elimination format, which takes some pressure off the seedings as well. Instead, weaker teams have a better chance at scoring upset wins in the best-of-one format featured in lower bracket.

This preview separates the best invited teams into three categories, continue reading to find out what to expect from your favorite teams in Copenhagen next week.

Favorites

These are the teams I expect to be standing on the podium at the end of the event, although it is possible for one of them to come up short, they are heavy favorites going into this event. They are also my picks to finish top three.

Poland ESC Gaming (kuben, Loord, neo, pasha, TaZ)

The Poles have won their last two tournaments which were both majors as well, WCG and IEM WC. To me it seems like they are currently a level above others along with Natus Vincere, although if you look at scores in their matchups against SK Gaming you can tell the Swedes aren't far behind. However, when you look at all the times SK Gaming has crumbled against Filip "neo" Kubski's squad, you have to start wondering if it's all just luck in close games, or if they might just have the Swedes' numbers.

ESC Gaming looks very solid overall no matter how you look at them; Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas has seemingly elevated his level of play in the last six months, Kubski is playing at his usual top notch level and Jarosław "pasha" Jarząbkowski had his big rounds at IEM. As with every team, the final two members aren't as flashy as the former three, but both of them have also had big matches and most importantly, they play their parts extremely well in ESC Gaming. Not everyone can or needs to be a super star, and from the outside looking in, it seems like ESC knows that very well. They all play to their strengths, and although other teams might have more skill than them, they continuously top them in close series and end up on top.

I think ESC has the highest chance out of the three teams I classified as "favorites" of getting upset versus teams in the lower categories (although not trailed by much by Natus Vincere), but due to the format of Copenhagen Games being best-of-three all the way until you lose a set, you can expect the Polish side to bring their A game and lock a spot in the final four. I think they will beat everyone below them and SK Gaming (should they face each other), but a matchup against the Ukrainians will always be a toss up for them.


Will the Poles' joy continue in Copenhagen? 

Ukraine Natus Vincere (ceh9, Edward, markeloff, starix, Zeus)

Natus Vincere come into this event as the clear second best team in the world in my opinion, although only by the slightest margins as they missed WCG and can't therefore be judged too much by their lack of a placing in Busan. Although they had an arguably much easier route to their second place finish in Hannover than ESC did on their way to the grand final, they still took care of all the lower level teams with relative ease and should have been able to close out SK Gaming in the group stage if it wasn't for constant nagging and arguing within the team.

The switch to having Sergey "starix" Ischuk call the shots as the new in-game leader is clearly working out for Na`Vi, although Jakub "kuben" Gurczynski criticized his calling in a recent interview and said it's obvious where Ischuk likes to fall back on when things do not work. Natus Vincere's lineup has always complemented each other very well, as they have very defined roles within the team that seem to work in-game. Although I still disagree with Yegor "markeloff" Markelov using the AWP less with Ischuk buying it more often these days, the 24-year-old super star has proven to be a world class player with rifles as well, if anyone ever doubted it. Danilo "Zeus" Teslenko has also greatly improved his individual play ever since he stopped calling.

As I mentioned in ESC's preview, I think Natus Vincere could normally fall short against a lower level team, but luckily for them both group stage and the upper bracket are in best-of-three format, which takes a lot of pressure off the Ukrainians who are known to have trouble in group stages before shaping up for the best-of-threes. I don't see anyone but ESC or SK taking Markelov's team out in a best-of-three, but should either one do it, Na`Vi could fall outside of the podium in the best-of-one lower bracket, where they fell against a much weaker ESC.se team at GameGune last summer after an upper bracket defeat to SK Gaming on de_nuke.


ZeroGravity's team won't be happy with another second place finish 

Sweden SK Gaming (f0rest, face, GeT_RiGhT, RobbaN, trace)

SK Gaming came into IEM6 WC with tons of expectations from fans after the addition of Martin "trace" Heldt, but failed against ESC in semi-finals after twelve consecutive round wins on de_nuke and then ended the tournament by losing the third place decider to Lions. This once again goes to show that while individual skill is always an asset, it alone doesn't make a great team. It would be impossible to make an argument at this point that there's a more skilled team out there than SK Gaming and ESC is actually the lowest skilled team out of the top three, but they still seem to consistently have SK's numbers as seen at e-Stars, WCG and IEM.

Since IEM SK missed TECHLABS Cup final against Na`Vi, either because they didn't want to go or because they had problems with visas. Regardless, we haven't seen SK playing as a team since then but you can expect them to be better prepared by now. More preparation won't fix the underlying issue which causes SK to lose matches - their weak terrorist sides. Ever since they replaced Marcus "Delpan" Larsson they've only had one, maybe two aggressive terrorist side players (Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg and Robert "RobbaN" Dahlström) and their play style clearly depends a little too much on their star players hitting their shots to consistently score wins over ESC or Na`Vi.

Personally I don't think those problems will be fixed with more practice. That is not to say SK can't or won't win, because their CT sides are so good it might be enough to carry them on to wins, but I think overall they are very slightly below ESC Gaming and Natus Vincere as of now. I don't think SK had ever lost against a weaker team until the Lions loss at IEM, and regardless of it only being a third place decider, it still really surprised me especially seeing as it's another Swedish team that Lindberg & co are used to running over easily. SK Gaming will most likely end up on the podium, but I think both ESC and Na`Vi are slight favorites against them, and they could get upset by a team like Lions in the lower bracket.


Can SK live up to the post-trace addition hype or will they have to travel home disappointed again?

Dark horses

This is the group of teams that's most likely to upset one of the "favorites" at the event and could see one of them ending up in top three, but it's unlikely any of them will be able to fight for a win. I expect these teams to round up the top six.

Sweden Lemondogs (FYRR73, kHRYSTAL, niko, threat, zneel)

It's a little sad Lions got dropped from their comfortable sponsorship after their third  place finish at IEM6 WC which is easily the team's second best placing in its history. The problem I see with Lemondogs is they are very good at executing captain Björn "threat" Pers' game, but I'm not sure which way they can grow from there. They have now upset each of the favorites in best-of-three format so while theoretically it's plausible they could end up on the podium, I think they will face one of the three somewhat early in the upper bracket and then be forced to fight against slightly worse teams in the lower bracket.

I don't see Lemondogs as a team who is incapable of losing against seemingly weaker opposition, and the best-of-one format will probably randomize some lower bracket results at Copenhagen Games. I wouldn't be surprised if Lemondogs fell victim to it, but they are still the fourth best team there going into the event.


Lemondogs are hoping to repeat their performance from IEM6 WC 

Finland WinFakt  (allu, aslak, BASiC, dRiim, H^N)
Prediction written by: Marc "Nix0n" Winther Kristensen

WinFakt will be in Copenhagen without their captain Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen, which means Kimmo "BASiC" Fagerholm will be the team's leader this weekend. Fagerholm led Online Kingdom last year at the Danish event, which was the first time for him at a LAN event.

Surely the Finns will have to mix it up a bit, which could pay off, but certainly also backfire. I would under no circumstances consider them on the same page as a mix team, but given the fact that the team won't be having the framework of Kovanen, I feel it may be the cornerstone in a collapsing house of cards. Then again, how bad could it get? The team got placed in the high seeding layer, surely a first place in whatever group they end up in is doable. It's when the playoffs kick in I feel the Finns will be in trouble. I could see them moving to the upper-bracket semis, but only if they get drawn up against Alternate or Xapso in the first round.

Word has it the players have been playing a lot individually, even surpassing the hours put in preparing for the IEM6 World Championship. Taking this in consideration with what I've mentioned above, I feel safe to say they will end up in top eight, but climbing much further seems quite unthinkable and at the same time, I could see them failing to reach top eight, only based on the absence of their leader Kovanen.

 


aslak can make a difference for WinFakt, but he will have to improve on his IEM6 WC form 

Sweden fnatic (Friis, Gux, karrigan, MODDII, Xizt)

While every fan seems to think Patrik "cArn" Sättermon's replacement, Finn "karrigan" Andersen is a great addition to fnatic, I see them as a similar team to SK now. They lack in leadership, have a good amount of skill but it's distributed in an awkward way where all five of their players are used to being fraggers in their previous teams, whereas now some of them are going to be forced to do the boring roles in strats which while it might work in the short term, probably won't be great after a while.

I think fnatic won't do nearly as well without Sättermon as people expect them to do with Andersen. I could even see them losing against a team like Xapso who are clearly superior strategically and I think Lemondogs must be considered a favorite against them now. Overall I think they will finish in the top six, but I don't think they stand a chance against the top three.


Can Xizt replace cArn as a leader or will fnatic face more problems than before? 

Underdogs

Underdogs are teams I consider good enough to possibly cause an upset on the "dark horses" and play competitive matches against anyone at the event, but who don't have much chances of ending up in the top four. In the end, these teams should finish within the top twelve.

Denmark Xapso (ArcadioN, coloN, turkizh, zanoj, Xyp9x)

People have been seemingly making a big deal out of Xapso ever since Morten "coloN" Johansen was accused of cheating in a ClanBase Nations Cup match. I personally think it has been blown out of proportions (without having seen the clip), as regardless of Johansen actually cheating it isn't a big deal. If he did, they won a match without much merit, and if not, he's still the same player on LAN.

Either way, Xapso will be able to take down teams thanks to their leader Timm "ArcadioN" Henriken, but they will be massively outskilled against teams in the higher categories and their inexperienced players will probably not be able to put up big numbers which would let them upset them. I can see Xapso beating anyone else in "underdogs" comfortably, but I don't see them taking down anyone from a category above them. Good enough to place top eight, but not much more.


Will ArcadioN surprise the scene at another Danish event as with Full Gaming? 

Denmark Anexis (BERRY, Nuggi, Snappi, SFM, zE-)

Anexis' claim to fame was mTw dying which let them become the best team in Denmark. That hasn't helped much though, as the only time the Danes have advanced from the initial group stage since Michael "Friis" Jørgensen's departure was DreamHack Winter where they had Martin "trace" Heldt as a stand-in. Despite multiple upset wins over teams considered better than them, Anexis have been unable to cause any real damage at international events.

Unfortunately for them, after mTw disbanded, Timm "ArcadioN" Henriksen created a new team, Xapso, which has now surpassed them as the best Danish team after a victory at DEL finals last weekend. Anexis can once again upset, but there is hardly any chance of them making the final four, regardless of having a good day or causing more than one upset in the lower bracket, where the best-of-one format will be their biggest hope for Copenhagen Games.


Can BERRY's team finally make a difference on home soil? 

Germany Alternate (approx, Kapio, Tixo, Troubley, Roman R.)

Alternate hasn't impressed us in a long time despite of boasting some of the best known German players in the game's history. Their most recent showing was a big loss against an already dead mousesports team featuring the now-fnatic member Finn "karrigan" Andersen. Alternate also stands a chance at upsetting one of the dark horses due to veterans such as Navid "Kapio" Javadi and Manuel "Tixo" Makohl, but they're much more likely to finish in the 7-12th region, where the final placing will likely be mostly decided by their bracket.


Will we see Kapio in his old mouz form?

Denmark Copenhagen Wolves (KK, MJE, Morf4r, Paddy, whimp)

Copenhagen Wolves is an interesting combination of by now long retired Danish players including two members of the 2008 mTw lineup and Andreas "KK" Andreassen from The Titans. While the players are clearly out of shape and most likely won't put much into preparing for this event, it will be fun for spectators to see some of the older players come back if only for an event.

If Wolves' players have a good level of individual play they can make the top eight to twelve region, but considering their inactivity, they might get knocked out even earlier. It all depends how much effort these guys put in, as Muhamed "MJE" Eid and Jonas "whimp" Svendsen just might have another ace up their sleeve.


Fans will get to watch whimp compete in CS once more

Finland MoD-eSport (jonkkis, Metaphor, mkzz, tomsku, zehN)

MoD-eSport isn't very well known within Europe but they have a roster of young hungry players who put in a lot of hours and had a solid match against WinFakt at LanTrek back in January. While their team isn't likely to put up much of a fight against teams I consider "favorites" or "dark horses", I think they are going to be a lot better against other "underdogs" than many might consider. I think the BYOC format will help them get used to the computers and a new environment, and they will be able to put in as much warmup time as they might ever like to.

Another team who will struggle in best-of-threes but luckily has a medium seed to make it to upper bracket regardless, and can upset similar level teams in lower bracket's best-of-one format.

How do you think these teams will fare at Copenhagen Games 2012? Do you disagree with the preview? Who will end up winning? Leave a comment with your thoughts below.

HLTV.org will be on-site to provide you with full coverage of Copenhagen Games 2012 on April 4-8. The local qualification tournament will run on Thursday April 5, with all the teams mentioned here beginning their campaign on Friday, April 6.

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Finland teco
Gl winfakt
2012-04-04 00:01
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Sweden Salcc
hope SK will take it, gl to them! :D
2012-04-04 00:01
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Finland Aerial
mod sick<3
2012-04-04 00:01
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Morocco skamz
hmmm, great tournament again, difficult to guess a winner... "eight groups of four in a best-of-three format taking up the entire first day of the event." that's the real shit, but i would've prefered 8 groups of four BO1, and then 4 groups of 4 (top16 teams are all pretty guuuud) BO3, switching then to bracket :) btw lurppis, what's your point of view on winfakt going with dRiim, what do you expect from them ?
2012-04-04 00:12
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i think what nix0n predicted is pretty much spot on, they will win their group and beat the weaker teams but that's probably it, they should place around the 5-8th range
2012-04-04 00:23
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Good Job as always.
2012-04-04 09:10
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Estonia 2026
BELIEVE IN ALLU & ASLAK !!!
2012-04-04 15:26
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Poland malyZKS
Imo its better that they will play bo3 in groups. Just think about semoXorah. They are traveling from Brazil, they are losing three maps and going home. In this case they will play at least six maps(including three maps, which they will pick and can make some damage - if they even have maps like that), so its a lil bit fair for them. This only example, but i guess its better idea for all teams to make some damage. Sry for my english
2012-04-04 00:28
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Morocco skamz
with all due respect to sX players and other players attending the LAN, it's not about their pleasure first, but it's about the viewer's pleasure, and its propension to bring sponsors to the scene. in that case, i believe that having a first groupstage on B01, and a second one on B03 (like in the old days of the Champions League, that 2d groupstage was allways epic, like the groupstage on IEM 6 was). now imagine having a groupstage with the 16 following teams, spread into 4 groups: -ESC Gaming - Neo, kuben, TaZ, Loord, pasha SK Gaming - GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, face, RobbaN, trace fnatic - Xizt, Gux, MODDII, Friis, karrigan Natus Vincere - markeloff, Edward, starix, Zeus, ceh9 Lemondogs - threat, niko, FYRR73, kHRYSTAL, zneel Alternate - approx, Troubley, Kapio, Tixo, Roman R. Xapso - ArcadioN, turkizh, coloN, zanoj, Xyp9x WinFakt - allu, aslak, H^N, BASiC, dRiim Anexis - BERRY, Snappi, SFM, Nuggi, zE- PTT - aneee, REASTEN, bJERKE, chrisJ, luosrevo zNation - AERO, plutohd, payneb, wAke, liTTle SharkGaming - zeeth, pzyclone, telli, EXR, suraNga alchemists - DaY, prb, tacky, zEn, hellzERk BOOOM - emilio, maxaki, skytten, relIk, dalito MoD-eSport - jonkkis, mkzz, Metaphor, tomsku, zehN semXorah - dmz, atx, LuL4, lkn, felippe StarteR - Paddy, KK, MJE, whimp, MoRf4r i'm pretty sure we'd have some pretty good games to watch on BO3 !
2012-04-04 01:44
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semXorah atx felippe1 fbm mch lul4
2012-04-04 04:44
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Brazil piu*
sX>>>>>all HAHAHAHAHA
2012-04-04 00:05
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Denmark floosha
MJE AND WHIMP >#
2012-04-04 00:06
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Netherlands tyr010
top3!
2012-04-04 13:09
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Denmark floosha
Most likly not. But I would for sure love to see them! :D
2012-04-04 17:36
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Portugal ENERG1EofLDS
how does it feel to put SK among the favourites?
2012-04-04 00:07
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Idd. Must hurt since lurppis hates SK.
2012-04-04 02:38
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Brazil mth_R2
hope for fnatic!
2012-04-04 00:08
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gL SK! :))
2012-04-04 00:10
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Switzerland eLipzz
If SK loses against to poles AGAiN, gtr said he would retire.
2012-04-04 00:10
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Players at that caliber don't retire from one loss, there are teams that have been losing for years or at least months and aren't budging lol
2012-04-04 00:12
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Switzerland eLipzz
yeah but its too much for gtr! Lost already 100000 times to poles!
2012-04-04 00:24
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
Link please. I NEED to read it.
2012-04-04 01:22
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
it's bullshit :P
2012-04-04 04:24
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Switzerland eLipzz
^.^
2012-04-04 10:50
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Denmark Dare_Dev1L
A few spelling mistakes but pretty good preview. Thanks :)
2012-04-04 00:11
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when you write +16k characters of text a few spelling errors are bound to make it in just from typing that much :P i had another staff member read through it but if you point out mistakes i'll fix them ^^
2012-04-04 00:22
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Canada P0WERSLAVE
"the mare"
2012-04-04 00:58
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Denmark Dare_Dev1L
Well one I noticed most was in MoD-eSport but it seems to have gotten fixed lol. I'm not judging you for making mistakes lol, i just thought they would have gotten caught while being reviewed :P. Though everyone's human it happens that even a reviewer misses them.
2012-04-04 03:22
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yeah i fixed that one once someone pointed it out. to be fair, that's a lot of text to read through as well, so especially that close to the end you're likely to skip over that as it makes little difference in reading. thanks though, if you noticed anything else let me know.
2012-04-04 03:27
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Switzerland eLipzz
Anyway, it's great to have an expert eye like yours. Thanks for that. But here's something. Your point of view for the top 3 is (i think) highly based on the results of the previous main tournament, IEM in this case. Don't you think that SK can more than certainly go over the top now that they have practiced well. Or I'd rather ask : why not consider that any of the 3 top teams can win it? The new preparations between the two events is like setting the scores to 0 and start it over again, isn't it?
2012-04-04 10:55
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out of the top three teams i think practice helps sk the least by far. na`vi and esc improve way more from practice than sk, who usually rely on their star players to make magic happen. practice will help anyone of course, but i don't think the current sk team's terrorist sides will benefit enough to put them over the top in the long run. this is not to say they couldn't win this time, but imo na`vi and esc will always be favorites above them (after removing delpan). the teams are still the same and so are their strengths and weaknesses, so of course two weeks of practice won't simply reset scores to zero.
2012-04-04 16:17
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Switzerland eLipzz
Alright ty
2012-04-04 19:07
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United Kingdom roman~
Xapso can beat fnatic? No.
2012-04-04 00:11
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Finland ZoqFotPik
sure they can, they have coloL
2012-04-04 00:15
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United Kingdom roman~
fnatic has moddii gux karrigan xizt and friis.
2012-04-04 00:19
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Finland FRGVN
yeah and xizt has never played igl role before + one new teammate vs. xapso who has tons of experience as a team with ArcadioN as IGL.. hmm I think xapso might be equal or if not even a slight favorite in this matchup.
2012-04-04 02:14
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Switzerland eLipzz
i wouldn't say "tons", but i think they're quite well prepared. It's true that Xapso has a good LU and strats. But fnatic dude... dat line up
2012-04-04 10:57
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion
I think you are right, xizt will perform way less well than before, unless he surprises me, but karrigan and friis both have played with arcadion so much they know how he thinks and likes to play, and fnatic has more raw aiming power.
2012-04-04 19:49
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion
yeah but friis and karrigan know alot of arcadions tacbook/way-of-thinking if you know what I mean :)
2012-04-04 19:48
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Finland FRGVN
yes they can period
2012-04-04 00:28
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United Kingdom roman~
No.
2012-04-04 00:30
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North Macedonia EXTOL[t]
no
2012-04-04 13:50
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Chile MrJav1er
duttdutt?
2012-04-04 00:14
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United Kingdom roman~
Not attending.
2012-04-04 00:14
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Chile MrJav1er
yeah yeah but in the tag goes duttdutt xdd
2012-04-04 00:17
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Japan Nroth
not going
2012-04-04 00:27
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
according to pronax CPH failed to sponsor* them somehow, so they can't attend it. idk why is duttdutt in tags btw
2012-04-04 00:32
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
lol not cph... the sponsorship deal which they were negotiating with prospective sponsors (not cph games) didn't come through.
2012-04-04 00:45
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
oh sorry! i misread, he said "an organisation", i read as "the organisation"
2012-04-04 02:32
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gl Xapso gl sX :D
2012-04-04 00:15
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Poland Ruszek
GL ESC! Hope for great tournament :)
2012-04-04 00:16
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Poland el'barteK
GL ESC & Lemondogs and Xapso!
2012-04-04 00:22
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Sweden Svampjuice
Interesting read as always :) Gogo lemondogs!
2012-04-04 00:22
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Morocco BAKKI!
GK XAPSOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2012-04-04 00:27
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Finland FRGVN
anyway I'm hoping for ANY other two teams in the finals but SK NaVi or ESC.
2012-04-04 00:29
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Slovakia bit0x
gl winfakt and fnatic :)
2012-04-04 00:31
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Russia mitz0r
who will take duttdutt's spot?
2012-04-04 00:32
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Denmark zact
go COPENHAGEN WOLVES!! im so rdy to see those guys competing again..
2012-04-04 00:32
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Finland ScurK
glhf wf&mod !
2012-04-04 00:33
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
great read, lurppis :) ps. MoD-eSport isn't very well known within Europe but they have a roster of young hungry players who put in a lot of hours and had a solid match against WinFakt at LanTrek back in January. While their taem
2012-04-04 00:34
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Argentina luchoft
fnatic, this is your tournament! Show us your effort :)
2012-04-04 00:35
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Latvia Interex
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2012-04-04 00:39
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Germany vendir2k
go esc! :)
2012-04-04 00:39
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Slovakia dinkington
Nice job lurppis
2012-04-04 00:41
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Nice writin' sairrr lurppis! Well i don't know what i can write here, but i agree with you in almost everything... Anyway, good luck semXorah and fnatic. :)
2012-04-04 00:42
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Xapso can beat FNATIC? UAHSUASHAUSHAUHS.
2012-04-04 00:42
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ofc they can :) in cs everything can happened , fnatic are with new igl , new players ;}
2012-04-04 11:38
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
I think Xapso is a bit overrated. Yes, they beat Anexis, but Anexis beat mTw last year as well, on a constant basis before mTw picked up ArcadioN. That doesn't really mean they are the better team. Playing local teams is sometimes different story than playing international teams. And i would like to bet 100 Euros with Lurppis that fnatic will win 2-0 against Xapso (not even 2-1) if they do play each other in a bo3 series. I mean if you say Xapso are strategically better than fnatic(whose strategies we haven't seen yet, since xizt became igl) same can be said for Xapso and SK.
2012-04-04 00:47
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
overrated by who? not by lurppis, he classified them as underdogs, likely anexis. about fnatic, i agree he shouln't be so secure about their lack of strategy, we don't know how things will work out, since xizt never igl'd before
2012-04-04 00:52
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
Lurppis thinks they are better than Anexis (i think otherwise) and reckons they can upset fnatic and can easily beat everyone else in "underdogs" category. I think that's a bit of an overrating. Also, the community seems to be hyping them a lot, probably due to ColoN. I guess we'll have to wait and see what they are worth. I'm still not sold on them being better than Anexis or Alternate.
2012-04-04 01:04
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
community is indeed hyping a lot, as do i, because coloN went from cheater to great player, so we all want to see how that will work out did you watch their match (vs anexis)?
2012-04-04 01:11
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
I watched their bo1 on dust2, not the bo3. They looked decent in that game, but nothing spectacular, to be honest.
2012-04-04 01:21
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
not spectacular, but WAY better than anexis. i guess anyone who watched that would bet on anexis, but them 5.
2012-04-04 02:30
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS
anexis beating mtw before mtw picked up arcadion? wtf dude you're lost somewhere...THE danish team doing well against mtw was FG not anexis. xapso have probably played more than anyone else in the last 2 months, and tactically they are probably the strongest team at CPH!
2012-04-04 00:55
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
Yes, my bad, i mixed up the teams :P
2012-04-04 00:59
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Canada vinzend
I hope SK will get their revenge against the Poles and Ukrainians!
2012-04-04 00:43
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS
ESC: I agree on almost everything you said about them, but their performances depend a lot on their motivation (big money prizes) SK: It's true that SK failed at IEM, but one of the things that had probably influenced that performance there is that they didn't bootcamp before the event...I think that could've shaken off a lot of their in-game problems! I beleive the games against Lions was a fluke, they were just extremely disappointed after falling to the Poles at a big event yet again. fnatic: finally someone getting to the real problem...all of them before joining fnatic were their teams' best players, which I beleive is going to backfire at them
2012-04-04 00:50
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
+1 about ESC SK did bootcamp before IEM, 1 week (afaik). I don't think of myself as an expert, but i don't see how a team of 5 "best players" is an issue. Xizt and Friis are passive, karrigan can do both aggressive and passive well, MODDII and GuX are entry killers, so their rolls fit alright and should not be the problem. In contrast to SK, however, it's just f0rest who's a natural entry killer, RobbaN is forced to do this job, other 3 are passive, so it doesn't work out well for them.
2012-04-04 00:58
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS
SK didn't bootcamp right before the event, but during the techlabs tournament...which for a new team is a huge drawback, considering that ESC were bootcamping for almost 2 weeks right before the event and they're a team that know each pretty well! about fnatic we'll just have to wait and see
2012-04-04 01:26
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Argentina HH Sebax
I think that ESC will win, again, but not vs NaVi or SK,,, vs Lemondogs
2012-04-04 00:50
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Finland NUCL3AR
mod too easy
2012-04-04 00:52
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Finland  jOELZ
GL mod !
2012-04-04 00:53
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Serbia cWN^
is mkzz from mod good player?
2012-04-04 20:45
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Argentina n3sta
I think Lemondogs are going to do a great tournament
2012-04-04 00:54
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Argentina natswag
go SK, lets do this !
2012-04-04 00:55
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Brazil lullaby1
go go fyrr73 :)
2012-04-04 00:56
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World copp9n
Lemondogs will win this one
2012-04-04 01:00
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North Macedonia indianosix
gl SK <3!
2012-04-04 01:01
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Finland Straikki
MoD!!!
2012-04-04 01:05
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Argentina Martinssj4
fnatic>all if xizt lead correctly.....
2012-04-04 01:07
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Denmark tHm
CPH Wolves > whimp >
2012-04-04 01:13
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Poland Retrain
come on ESC, you can win it!!
2012-04-04 01:13
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Finland waltsu
yes!
2012-04-04 01:42
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#81
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Brazil viNNy1
OMFG lurppis was so wise in his words... I agree with him, but i think that fnatic is a "inquiry" which can surprise the top 3 (ESC, Natus, SK) and they r ahead from ex-LIONS any where any hour any map And in my opinion winfakt only stay behind top3 n fnatic. depending on the map to me WF=/> ex-LIONS
2012-04-04 01:41
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World GEHTNIXRYAN
GL Alternate and Wolves
2012-04-04 01:51
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Germany @RaDiKaL_
waiting for DREAMTEAM ^^
2012-04-04 01:54
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United Kingdom @bloodR1g
navi,esc!!!
2012-04-04 01:55
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Brazil snkiNg
GL Na`Vi
2012-04-04 01:57
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World tOMA[h8]
Nice preview! I`m just curious, Tommy what do you expect from Norwegian guys, aU?
2012-04-04 01:59
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Spain ferk
I'm not agree with the majority that lurppis has wrote, but anyway, its a good reading. For this event, I think we will see the same faces again. ESC/NaVi > SK > rest. I don't think SK can beat the ukranians or poles with RobbaN leading them.
2012-04-04 02:02
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Sweden Salcc
i really doubt that, i mean they have won agaisnt them before :)
2012-04-04 02:34
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Spain ferk
One of the few things that I'm agree with lurppis is that SK Gaming playstyle is based on them hitting their shots or not. That's RobbaN's fault. Nowadays, you can't won a major title basing your game in your aim. RobbaN won few titles the last year thanks in part to Delpan's entry kills.
2012-04-04 13:38
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Norway KPISZEK
1 ESC 2 NaVi 3 FNATIC 4 SK 5 Lemondogds Tags: ESC, Natus Vincere, SK, WinFakt, fnatic, Lions, Xapso, Anexis, Alternate, MoD-eSport, Copenhagen Games 2012 Wolves,Titans?
2012-04-04 02:05
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hmmmm disagree about alternate they are in decent shape since kapio is back in their squad, they had good perfomances in eswc2011, techlabs cup and during the whole pro series season(won vs mouse when they werent "an already dead mousesports") and you cant really count that last match were mouse just raped them, they got ddos all the time. also they haven been(or are still, dont know) bootcamping and playing alot recently i know that you dont really like them especially your friend protestley but i really think they can surprise some bigger teams. *fanboy glasses off*
2012-04-04 02:14
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Venezuela Hydrox-
This is too easy for fnatic
2012-04-04 02:19
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Croatia hypno123
fanboy :*
2012-04-04 12:12
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Argentina Martinssj4
this tournament its gonna be hard for fnatic, you say bullshit. xizt new igl, new changes, and that its hard for the team.
2012-04-04 02:34
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Portugal DiegoPalma
GJ for the preview , GL to teams , WE wanna see an action ! :)
2012-04-04 02:38
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Latvia h3ro1n
Haha. I don't really get this part. More preparation won't fix the underlying issue which causes SK to lose matches - their weak terrorist sides. How does more preparation or practice don't fix their T side? Is it better not to practice at all and you'll get magically better? :D Get a clue.
2012-04-04 02:40
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United States lurppis
"Ever since they replaced Marcus "Delpan" Larsson they've only had one, maybe two aggressive terrorist side players" "...their play style clearly depends a little too much on their star players hitting their shots to consistently score wins over ESC or Na`Vi." the underlying issues that won't be fixed with more practice are pointed out above since you clearly had so much trouble picking them out yourself. i don't see this roster magically getting better as terrorists because they have too many passive players and robban won't change the way he calls out of the blue. ps. never said it's better to not practice or that it would lead to improvement, but practice won't fix said issues either. "Get a clue."
2012-04-04 03:01
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Latvia h3ro1n
It's not like that they don't know, that their T side is bad. Obviously they know that and they will do something to fix it. And I mean as you said, they have too much passive players, but they'll have to fix that. Players, the passive ones, they will need to start playing more aggressive and RobbaN will have to make changes in his tactics, so they can be more aggressive etc. But yea, if RobbaN won't change his strats, they'll play as T as they used to and nothing will change. Get a clue v2. :D
2012-04-04 04:06
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United States lurppis
that team will never change their playing style and the players won't change their individual playing styles, hence the underlying issues will always stay. of course you can always claim you have some crazy insight into the way they will play from now on, but the fact is if they could play more effectively, they would have already done it.
2012-04-04 04:12
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Russia absorber
Agree with you. To change playstyle to more agressive - is very risky task. I would said too risky for such a level of competition. SK has already found the style which fits them perfectly. Yes, it's kinda "safe", but they are top 3 at world now and who knows if changing style let them be higher. However, they can beat any opponent with their game.
2012-04-04 11:16
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#102
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Portugal proak
´groups?
2012-04-04 03:00
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Denmark Nix0n
Will be announced today (Wednesday).
2012-04-04 03:03
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Portugal proak
thanks mate
2012-04-04 03:04
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Vietnam @hungipham
OMG! Can't wait.
2012-04-04 16:18
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Serbia Rki
Great preview, it's nice to know what the pros think about upcoming events. And, lurppis, I'd like to ask you for your opinion. What do you think about the mix-team duttdutt and their chances if they attended? They are pretty good online, how do you think they would preform at LAN? I ask you because keiz said that they "would roCk the shit of every team". A lot of people are calling them just onliners, and some swedish guys say that they are all proven at lan. I'm guessing you are around long enough as a pro player to know such things, or just maybe you have played a lot with them or whatever. Bottom line is you probably have more info on that then me, and I'm kinda curious :) Looking forward to your answer, and keep up the good work! Cheers! :)
2012-04-04 03:00
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United States lurppis
i'm pretty sure keiz was just trolling with his statement about rocking the lan, anyone from that team would be taken to an asylum if a worker read they really thought they'd have a chance breaking top6 at copenhagen games. pronax is the only one who has ever done anything on lan out of that lineup and he wasn't a key member of any of his successful teams (h2k, esc). manne & co have failed time and time again, no reason to think it'd change now.
2012-04-04 03:03
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Serbia Rki
Thanks for the quick answer, I appreciate it. I just thought if it's BYOC, they would be used to their settings and play like they play on the internet :) Anyways that is pretty much what i was thinking about duttdutt. Always thought pronax was a great(and different) teamleader, but i may have had a little more faith in dennis than you :D
2012-04-04 03:17
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United States lurppis
oh i forgot about dennis being in that lineup but regardless, i haven't seen him play outside of sk and he wasn't by any means a key member in that lineup either so it's hard to judge how he would do. i don't think their players apart from manne are necessarily online, but they are just overrated in the sense that while they are good, they aren't as good as people in comments make them out to be. could place 7-8th, would not break top6.
2012-04-04 03:23
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
"anyone from that team would be taken to an asylum if a worker read they really thought they'd have a chance breaking top6 at copenhagen games." then could place 7-8th if you think they can reach 7th, how is 6th that impossible? XD btw i think they would be 9-12 depending on brackets
2012-04-04 04:31
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United States lurppis
because they have a 0% chance of beating anyone in the higher two categories, after which there is a giant drop in level of skill.
2012-04-04 04:43
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lurppinho, you dont see future in any duttdutt player? even if they start to attend some lan's frequently?
2012-04-04 04:46
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United States lurppis
only nak calls me lurpinho :P of course they could improve over time, but they aren't attending enough lans to do so. a2g went to an asus tournament last year and got demolished just as badly as manne's brief stins in fnatic went.
2012-04-04 04:57
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
but brackets can favor them to reach 6th without beating any of those six :P
2012-04-04 05:13
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United States lurppis
they can't if copenhagen games seeds properly
2012-04-04 05:28
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#129
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
yeah, well.. i saw you on the other topic, you won't leave this discussion haha nvm :D
2012-04-04 06:14
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#130
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World HejteRRR
And whats your opinion about Norwegians (aU), can they do any damage?
2012-04-04 06:34
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United States lurppis
no idea who is even on that team, doubt they will beat anyone in underdogs
2012-04-04 16:14
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Serbia Rki
Thanks for your answers, you are really ok answering to all kinds of questions and making this forum a lot more interesting. I know I'm kinda boring, I won't be bothering you anymore but if you could just make some kind of parallel between xapso players colon, turkizh (they were also considerd onliners and even cheaters) and duttdutt players like manne etc.. How come xapso players made it this far, and duttdutt/a2g couldn't? It can't be just because of Arcadion's leadership :D
2012-04-04 17:59
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United States lurppis
i'm not sure if colon or turkizh are any better than manne and keiz, but they do have a better team around them. that is mostly thanks to arcadion i think, unless a team has an insane amount of skill, most teams rely a lot more on their leader than many people assume. then again, i don't know enough about them to really comment; i don't think they are as good as people might think, but they should be good enough to make top8 here.
2012-04-04 18:06
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Serbia Rki
I see your point, Arcadion's experience and knowledge of the game is vast. Hope to see more of your previews and predictions on events in the future. Cheers!
2012-04-04 18:17
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United States lurppis
it's more like this: hardly anyone fails as badly as manne did with fnatic, you hardly ever see such a big drop from online to lan on level of play. however, when you're playing with a smart leader like arcadion, you're usually limited to what you're "allowed" to do in-game, so if he doesn't let his players do online stuff in-game even online, they will play at a similar level on lan because their individual game won't change much. cheers
2012-04-04 18:21
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#107
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f0rest | 
Argentina aspi
GL FOR WINFAKT !
2012-04-04 03:06
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#112
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Czech Republic SEXBOMBER
sk gaming can play terrorist sides if they want:) hltv.org/match/1902248-sk-gaming-natus-v..
2012-04-04 03:27
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
with delpan
2012-04-04 04:31
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United States lurppis
they were a much, much better terrorist side team with delpan. that obviously means overall, not that they once couldn't get more rounds with trace. they have so much individual skill that they can beat anyone (and likely will apart from na`vi and esc), but in the long run their terrorist sides will fail against the other two top three teams.
2012-04-04 04:58
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#131
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World copp9n
when GTR and f0rest joined SK they still werent winning ANYTHING, it wasnt until they took delpan from fnatic that they started moulding as a team and winning comps and ofc when he left, they went back to winning nothing, LIONS placed above SK at IEM6, DH 2011 winter and youd be stupid to put money against LIONS not placing above SK in this tourney aswell, i think lurppis' analysis of SKs playstyle just adds more fact to the theory they aint going to do well this tourney fnatic won DH 2011 winter but this is only because they had the easy path to the finals (LIONS eliminated AGAiN, NaVi, mouz) then got to play LIONS in the final, where as you know cArn has the most experience in the swedish lan scene and could read their game so easy and just counterstrat all GF long, you wont see that happen this time around with xizt as IGL with fnatic adding karrigan.. and xizt as leader, theres just too much indians and not enough chiefs, id love to see cph wolves matched against them in groups just to see an example set, with KK as IGL already whimp and mJe are potential IGLs also with their smart innovative gameplay and its why mtw was always the smartest team to watch.. im sure fnatic wont even place top 4 LIONS were just unlucky at IEM6 too, only taking 1 map off NaVi instead of 2, had they done this and went through to final they wouldve been the team that can beat ESC, i think this will be the comp they take out if mistakes dont go against them this time around
2012-04-04 06:39
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United States lurppis
to be fair, dreamhack was lions' once in a life time tournament where everything clicked. i think again and na`vi were both in bad shape there and that combined with lions being in great shape let them win. i don't think a well prepared lions can beat a well prepared esc or na`vi, and lions got run over by na`vi at iem in the maps they lost so it's not like they almost made it.
2012-04-04 16:19
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World asdcvf
"I could even see them losing against a team like Xapso who are clearly superior strategically and I think Lemondogs must be considered a favorite against them now. " LOL Start playing and less talk lurppis
2012-04-04 04:59
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Lurppis lot of time huh
2012-04-04 05:00
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Cs 1.6 dying
2012-04-04 05:21
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#173
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North Macedonia EXTOL[t]
stupid kid, your head R.I.P
2012-04-04 13:54
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Lurppis, as always, underestimating fnatic. I am not saying they are favorites, but I think they are clearly better than the other dark horses. And I would love to see them at the podium. May be Lurppis, you are right, but Top3 finish by fnatic will really boost their confidence and wil also help Xizt. Lets wait and watch. GL fnatic.
2012-04-04 05:39
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GO NA'VI' GO <3 Zeus
2012-04-04 06:47
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#133
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Russia fuad
SK-GAMING <3!!!!!!!!!
2012-04-04 06:50
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#134
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Belarus vNook
Na'Vi GL coloN -5 with chlenix on xD
2012-04-04 07:23
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#135
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India xb0y'
Looking forward to see SK WINNNNNNNNNNNN
2012-04-04 08:01
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#136
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FYRR73 | 
Finland FLACE
Gl mod!
2012-04-04 08:23
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#137
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Romania 7R
oh yeah,gl karrigan!
2012-04-04 08:30
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SK will take this one. 100 percent sure
2012-04-04 09:03
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#140
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Finland memoriel
MoD will take this one. 100 percent sure
2012-04-04 10:10
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#198
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Serbia cWN^
how good is mkzz?
2012-04-04 20:46
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lurppis stop trolling against sk:|,u maddDDD:O
2012-04-04 10:10
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#144
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Poland smiii
well, look at some comments here, and look at sk's results over the last year. they only won dh? and iem ny but only because current esc (or navi) wasn't there. also, they lost almost every lan game vs esc over the last year or even more. and your stupid comments just proves how many retarded sk's fanbois are there, despite their results.
2012-04-04 10:50
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i'm not a fanboy and you need to learn some fcking english;),look at lurppis commentary about sk,stfu
2012-04-04 11:03
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#199
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Germany TheR1pper
ESWC 2011? SK was the second best team in 2011 for a reason ;) ESC, SK and NaVi are on the same level. If they would play each other every day, you would always get other results. It's to close between those three.
2012-04-04 23:19
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#142
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Poland smiii
should be a nice event.
2012-04-04 10:50
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#149
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Bosnia and Herzegovina ZENDRA__
nice tourtament go navi
2012-04-04 11:08
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#150
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
cmon Na`Vi!
2012-04-04 11:15
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#152
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Brazil Tranced_
Nice preview. Will miss Tomi.
2012-04-04 11:22
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#154
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World Fichinzki
What I hope 1. Lemondogs 2. ESC 3. SK
2012-04-04 11:41
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#171
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Switzerland eLipzz
reality : 1. ESC 2. SK 3. NaVi 4.5.6.7.???? 8. Lemondogs.
2012-04-04 13:50
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#189
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Ukraine R/T
are you normal?
2012-04-04 18:15
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#201
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broky | 
Switzerland eLipzz
jt
2012-04-05 11:18
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#155
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Belgium Ruban M.
I disagree with your view on Alternate. Indeed, they lost against mousesports recently but I guess they just had a bad day. I think they can definitely reach top8.
2012-04-04 11:45
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#156
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North Macedonia ENDII
Lemondogs can make something good on this event! Gl to all teams :))
2012-04-04 12:01
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#157
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France zefree
its gonna be epic!
2012-04-04 12:08
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sk or esc will win this, hopefully sk
2012-04-04 12:11
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#160
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Croatia hypno123
If you don't agree with lurppis's opinion you don't have to assault him, just write your fucking opinion. Some people, like I for example, want to see his predictions in further tournaments also. With these kind of comments you can only make it not happen.
2012-04-04 12:27
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hope 4 SK :3
2012-04-04 12:31
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#162
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Israel ilanK
GL Na'Vi <3
2012-04-04 12:41
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#163
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Uzbekistan NaTu[t]
Xapso
2012-04-04 12:47
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#164
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Uzbekistan NaTu[t]
<3
2012-04-04 12:47
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#165
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GruBy | 
Poland MyNameIsMyName
ESC it's a FC Barcelona in CS. They can't loose in BO3
2012-04-04 12:59
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#166
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Serbia bettt
will be great to see fnatic
2012-04-04 13:02
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#167
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Romania mytr0ii
when is this tournament starting ?
2012-04-04 13:04
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#168
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Georgia feySEX
we want dreamteam nix
2012-04-04 13:05
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#174
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North Macedonia EXTOL[t]
My Favorites fnatic Lemondogs xapso Gl Too all :) WE GONNA SEE SOME ACTION OHOH:D
2012-04-04 13:55
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#175
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Ukraine cazcaz
dreamteam?!?!?!?!
2012-04-04 14:23
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#176
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s1mple | 
Russia UseYourBrain
not bad I think Na`Vi gogogo!!! ggglhf to all <3
2012-04-04 14:25
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#177
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Poland BRUTAAAL?
GL ESC!
2012-04-04 15:19
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#179
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World bkless
lurppis <3 markeloff :DDD
2012-04-04 15:59
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#180
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Finland qiini
GL MOD
2012-04-04 16:00
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where are the news about the groups?
2012-04-04 17:45
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SKRLZ
2012-04-04 19:06
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Nice Coverage!
2012-04-04 20:22
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#200
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donk | 
Peru KmuSzinho
WIN fnatic - Xizt, Gux, MODDII, Friis, karrigan
2012-04-04 23:49
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#204
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Albania pronaks~~~
SK gaming : f0rest,GeT_RiGhT,trace,face,robababan
2012-04-06 22:57
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