PGS hits out at own3D.tv

The ProGamerSeries (PGS) organisers have issued a statement to explain the reason own3d.tv did not broadcast the event.

According to PGS, a deal had been reached with own3d.tv to cover the entire event, but on Tuesday, two days before the start of the tournaments, the streaming company stated that it could only find English casters on Saturday and Sunday.

However, PGS claim that all efforts to contact own3d.tv on Saturday proved fruitless, as the company allegedly did not reply to emails, nor did they answer the phone.

Late on Saturday, PGS were able to get in touch with a member of own3d.tv and were promised that there would be stream coverage of the last day of the event, but as the match between place2play.ru and Anexis kicked off, own3d.tv were unreachable once again.

"PGS would like to inform that own3D TV did not honour the patnership that had been established with the PGS organisation when it comes to supplying a streaming service," a statement from PGS read.

"PGS would like to lament to the Portuguese and international gaming communities what happened, but it is not our fault."

With own3d.tv not broadcasting the matches, PGS were able to quickly work out a deal with GreatFrag.com, who will be covering the rest of the event.

HLTV.org reached out to own3d.tv for a reaction to PGS' statement, with the streaming company stressing that they refuse to be held accountable for this situation.

"It's unfortunate to read this statement from our client as a great deal of time was invested trying to assist with the successful execution of the event despite ever moving goalposts and a lack of information," Stuart Saw, Director of Content & Strategy at own3d.tv told HLTV.org.

"PGS are obviously disappointed with their event but unfortunately we cannot accept responsibility for the end result. We are staunch supporters of CS and eSports and we sponsor and support an innumerable amount of events without issue and will continue to do so.

"We're sorry to those viewers who've been left disappointed but it was not for lack of trying on our part."

According to own3d.tv, they had arranged for an English-speaking caster to cover the Counter-Strike games, but this person simply did not show up to do the job without giving an explanation. They also point out that this was the only caster available for PGS, due to the fact that the other casters have been busy with the ESWC and the THOR Open qualifiers or were simply were not interested in covering the event.

own3d.tv further states that PGS' stream has been available on its platform throughout the entire event and that the only thing that failed was the fact that the caster did not show up. They also reiterate that PGS' own3D contact was always available and willing to communicate.

Founded in 2009, Vienna-based own3d.tv is one of the biggest livestreaming companies in the world, providing players and teams from dozens of different games with the platform to stream their matches live.

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Sweden blablaaaaa
poor!
2012-10-14 16:55
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Sweden Salcc
sad
2012-10-14 16:57
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Portugal picc
pgs: own3d.tv fault own3d.tv: pgs fault
2012-10-14 16:59
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
true story bro..
2012-10-14 17:21
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World superbabiman
complete bs from own3d
2012-10-14 17:04
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twitch is better anyway
2012-10-14 17:12
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Sweden WINTERbluff
indeed
2012-10-14 19:20
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India spiderCAKE
"We are staunch supporters of CS and eSports and we sponsor and support an innumerable amount of events without issue and will continue to do so." Then why didn't you support PGS? And it is clear from own3d.tv's statement that it was totally unclear what they wanted to say. They didn't even cite a valid reason.
2012-10-14 17:16
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Germany PansY
Easy to point fingers, curious to see they are still using own3d to provide their streams unless i am mistaken :S?
2012-10-14 17:15
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Spain Jon10
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2012-10-14 17:16
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.........
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Romania TRS1906
............
2012-10-14 17:20
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World j@m
90880
2012-10-14 17:24
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Greece zoumis
cs 1.6 top !
2012-10-14 17:17
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Greece p0k0
yes very relevant also
2012-10-14 19:04
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Serbia bettt
who cares, my brother Rahim is enough
2012-10-14 17:20
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World superbabiman
Where I come from if you think the clients demands are excessive or unreasonable you pick up the phone,call them and say you don't want the job not hide and ignore phone calls to avoid the issue. Perhaps they don't take their beloved esports seriously enough? After all its just a game......right?
2012-10-14 17:21
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Spain bazoo23
fuck streams, we want HLTV!
2012-10-14 17:24
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Russia sandr1x_
this
2012-10-15 04:33
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I doubt anyone will know how it all went down but who cares.. rahim ftw
2012-10-14 17:24
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Finland Unsane
own3d.tv covers a lot of games and as we all saw, PGS did not go as planned. Imo you can't blame own3d for failing but the lack of information in between. Tho it's quite questionable from own3d. Not having informed PGS they can't meet the schedule but also being out of reach at that point. Very unprofessional. Seems more and more parties in e-sports are trying the SK-way; fuck everyone up and make shitloads of money. Not cool
2012-10-14 17:31
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Other ohai
It is probably fruitless to assign blame, but from these statements it seems like own3d is more at fault. They provided no concrete details about what PGS did to prevent own3d from successfully streaming the event, and, as you point out, they wouldn't even respond to PGS's attempts to contact them in the end. Looking through the statements from both parties, neither one mentions anything own3d did to try to remedy the situation, whereas at least PGS kept trying to make contact. Put another way: PGS: We called and emailed, but they wouldn't even pick up the phone. Own3d: We didn't have enough information to stream. ("lack of information") ...so pick up the phone!
2012-10-14 17:50
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Finland Unsane
Yeah that's pretty much how I saw it too EDIT: To me this looks like a typical "dealstack" problem.
2012-10-14 18:02
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what do it means, a "dealstack" problem?
2012-10-15 19:04
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Azerbaijan Talley
Will be there any good stream in English except Rahim? I really get bored when I hear his nonsense comments and irritating voice.
2012-10-14 18:04
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HLTV FOR THE FINAL PLEASE !!!
2012-10-14 18:12
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Portugal Schypher
I don't know what is worse, to watch a stream on own3d, or be forced to listen to greatfrag.
2012-10-14 19:36
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Finland Unsane
Haha SNAP! You are right :)
2012-10-14 22:28
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Russia sandr1x_
Nailed it.
2012-10-15 04:37
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Spain lolfake
stop being a shitty whinner,it is known that the only way to make some good money out of eSports is doing streams
2012-10-15 13:45
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Portugal Schypher
I am not denying that it's a profitable way to help out the scene, but there are definitely other ways to monetize the scene without forcing people to watch streams. Every time I have to deal with own3d's video player I just makes me want to shut-down my computer.
2012-10-15 18:17
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India xypnexfan.ftw
u appoint someone and if he doesnt show up it isnt ur fault? are u fucking kidding me?
2012-10-14 20:05
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--wroongreply,sorry
2012-10-15 19:08
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alot of talking, but what was the problem? it should be so simple it must be easily explained in one sentence.
2012-10-15 19:08
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