THOR admins on WRTT controversy

The THOR Open admins have released a statement to shed some light on the controversial ban of WRTT in last weekend's qualifier.

The Swedish team put together a statement on Sunday evening to explain that the infamous .txt file that had earned them disqualification was not the order confirmation of a cheating software, but "a joke".

WRTT also stated that since the admins could not find any evidence that the team cheated by looking at the players' demos, there was nothing to support their ban, which saw ESC Gaming progress to the semi-finals.

The THOR Open organisation has now publicly commented on this matter for the first time, explaining that WRTT's disqualification was solely based on the fact that the admins had lost their trust in the team.

"Yesterday we took the decision to disqualify WRTT from the sixth qualifier to THOR Open. The conflict was born after the mix team beat ESC Gaming with 16-0 and NiP Gaming with 16-11, creating strong accusations against the mix team from both top players as well as players of lower establishment.

This made us watch 430 rounds in total, all WRTT demos from both matches, without finding anything suspicious enough to convict the team. We're not saying there were no questionable moments, just nothing suspicious enough for them to be disqualified.

Though, during this conflict, a text document saying that the WRTT player Jesper "jw" Wecksell had indeed purchased cheats from the famous cheat-developer "Organner.pl" appeared on his personal stream. Wecksell immediately hid the VOD, making it even more suspicious. In the heat of the moment, also considering all the accusations and questionable situations in the demos, we lost our trust towards the team and disqualified them.

We did have in mind that this text file might had been part of a joke, and we are not saying they cheated. What we're saying is that the .txt and the hiding of the stream VOD resulted in them not being trustworthy enough to go through.

In hindsight this decision might have been made a bit too rationally, not really letting Wecksell defend himself in the end. We want to give our sincere apologies for that, but the ruling still stands and we are not in any way hiding our decision.

Best regards,
THOR Open CS:GO Officials"

This means that WRTT's ban stands and that ESC Gaming will take on Ninjas in Pyjamas at 19:00 to decide who will be the second finalist of the qualifier, after VeryGames also reached the tournament decider.

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#1
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Iceland dannoz
I thought the VOD was never deleted?
2012-11-19 14:20
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#10
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Kuwait Friza
it wasn't
2012-11-19 14:22
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#20
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
Where does this statement of the VOD being deleted come from? I have a feeling that jw made it private when the whole thing blew out of proportion and then made it public again later on, perhaps.
2012-11-19 14:26
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#52
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United States Tarsus
Yes he made private then public again
2012-11-19 14:42
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#98
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Russia galsan
lan is going to see their skill, BABYS
2012-11-19 15:12
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#186
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Sweden BIRK
exactly, he removed the vod for 3-4 hours then put it back again.
2012-11-19 16:47
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#249
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Ukraine VATABURGER
proof?
2012-11-20 07:18
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Sorry for replying to you... But did the admins even watch the demo with x-ray/wallhack or anything? - It's kinda hard judging someone who cheat without using some yourself while spectating.
2012-11-19 16:06
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#248
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United States criimson
This is so true and also a fact there's nothing we could do to make a judgement call if we wouldn't have watched the video withouth the cheat itself...thanks for bringing this up
2012-11-20 02:46
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Correct decision, not the first time these guys offended their opponents intelligence by abusing different kind of cheats. In a little better world, you see perm ban inc ! Dont give this more attention now. Let them attend DH BYOC and we talk from there.
2012-11-19 16:06
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I don't even think they'll attend DH BYOC. Pretty sure jw said that on his stream yesterday.
2012-11-19 16:10
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I know they most likly wont, but that tells more nagative things about them than vice versa ^^ ..or.. ? This "best team in the world" feels they are not ready as a team. Sad enough, i still cant stop laughing from sucha statement.
2012-11-19 16:17
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#232
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Sweden julie-
Btw they are no "TEAM".. Atleast not yet
2012-11-19 19:14
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If nothing to hide then we for sure will see WRRT at the 2012 DHW-BOYC, will be an "intresting" event in it self. Lets find out.
2012-11-19 23:04
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#2
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World nitrik
LOL
2012-11-19 14:20
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#25
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Italy Centeh
Actually, it's very sad.. these admins organizing and making decision at the THOR Tournament should be fired and never see a competition ever again.
2012-11-19 14:27
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#151
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Czech Republic boleq
yeah its a common thing to smash the worlds best team such as NiP and then pull out that really funny joke about purchasing the cheats...this guy is soooo smart...if he only would shut the fuck up and dont do those "funny" jokes about it, it would have been ok, but now he seems untrustworthy for his stupid jokes which is completly his own fault. I agree with admins and even more, they have final decision, not just some random retards from hltv.org who acts like sheeps
2012-11-19 16:05
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#196
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Sweden qweek
he didn't joke about it. it was a text file named "asdsadsadasdsadasd" with a four months old joke. not like he created the text file to joke about this match, he just happened to still have the text file on his computer. this decision is a joke.
2012-11-19 16:56
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#230
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Canada TheOldSchool
im not saying what the admins did was right. in face it was quite unjust to not give jw a chance to defend himself. but to prove others wrong, they should attend a LAN. if they can perform as well as they did in the qualifier, people will automatically think better of them. its their words against those who are the best in the game! who would you believe as an hltv.org reader?
2012-11-19 19:04
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#233
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Estonia dabz
They won't have 100% winrate against topteams in lans, obviously this was a fluke and purely played off of emotion, which is a huge part in this game. I bet right at that moment they felt like the best team in the game. Now not so much probably, and if you would put nip and wrtt in the same room at a random time and let them play a map, 90% of the time NiP is going to win.
2012-11-19 19:26
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#236
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Canada TheOldSchool
of course they wont. but if they can give NiP and ESC a run for their money at lan and have a few good matches where their skills really shows, people will appreciate them rather than call them cheaters. same thing happened with colon but then he performed at lan and people saw his real talent
2012-11-19 19:41
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the whole game is a joke sorry
2012-11-19 20:20
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Lol, no matter if they cheated or not they should be banned. Trolling about a matter like this should have no place in uper-tier esports. Thoroughly deserved ban.
2012-11-19 17:55
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
WOW!!! What bullshit? ESC vs NiP hasn't happened yet. Reverse the decision. Do the right thing.
2012-11-19 14:20
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fast reader :P EDIT: nice decision! i don't understand why he hid the VOD in the 1st place :S
2012-11-19 14:23
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#16
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United Kingdom Gumpster
He didn't.
2012-11-19 14:24
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#30
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Germany RaZztheTaZz
He did actually. When everything first went haywire he made all of his VoDs private, then later on he made them public again. This has been confirmed by more than one person.
2012-11-19 14:29
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#34
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United Kingdom Gumpster
Where is this "confirmation"? They are public currently, are they not?
2012-11-19 14:33
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#102
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Germany RaZztheTaZz
Doesn't mean that they were made private before. I am not sure if someone took a screenshot of the profile when it was made private. But it did indeed happen
2012-11-19 15:15
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United Kingdom Gumpster
So they banned them for not being "trust worthy".... what the actual fuck, are these admins for real?
2012-11-19 14:21
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#12
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
And they refuse to reverse the ruling as well. They want to stand by the decision even when they acknowledge the decision was irrational and in the heat of the moment. Just WOW!
2012-11-19 14:23
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Norway  prebz-
It would be just foolish to let WRTT take ESC or even NiP's place, so this was really the only thing they could do, I guess.
2012-11-19 14:22
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#65
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World guesswho
Except they won them both? How is it foolish to let them advance
2012-11-19 14:52
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#71
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Norway  prebz-
Because they already made a decision, and if they change their decisions 24/7, they seem unprofessional. (Even though I have to agree, if WRTT are clean, they should have gotten the spot)
2012-11-19 14:55
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#128
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Russia Saint1
they already flipped on their decision once, they might as well do it again
2012-11-19 15:36
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#137
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Norway  prebz-
The more they flip it, the more insecure they seem, thus more unprofessional :) But I wouldn't mind if they did.
2012-11-19 15:45
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#219
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Germany Dok1
It just can't get worse... Better flip it again, to the right side.
2012-11-19 18:16
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#223
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Norway  prebz-
As I said, I wouldn't mind that, but it's their decision :)
2012-11-19 18:28
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#189
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Sweden BIRK
What do you mean? They only stated one decision, to disqualify. They never did anything else. Your wrong.
2012-11-19 16:49
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#8
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Lithuania maklaudas
lads, get your popcorn, shit is about to begin :D
2012-11-19 14:22
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#31
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ahah +1
2012-11-19 14:33
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India Saske ^--^
xD!
2012-11-19 14:57
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Denmark Dare_Dev1L
Seems very cautious and they don't seem to stand firm with what they believe was the correct decision, it seems more like they decided and stand by it for professional reasons. Well, best of luck with the rest of the tournament.
2012-11-19 14:22
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#15
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
The "professional" thing would have been to reverse the unprofessional decision, if you ask me.
2012-11-19 14:24
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#23
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Denmark Dare_Dev1L
Yes but imagine if they were to keep changing their minds and their decision resulting in rescheduling constantly? They will lose all their credibility as an organization and thought more to be amateurs who can't make up their minds. As by this statement it's obvious they neither believe they cheat nor do they believe they don't cheat. In the end they just chose one thing and don't want to reverse it for professional reasons.
2012-11-19 14:26
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#37
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
This is the equivalent of that danish organization banning coloN and then reversing the decision later. IMO, doing the right thing is far more professional than sticking to a (wrong) decision, but hey, that's just my point of view.
2012-11-19 14:34
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#47
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Denmark Dare_Dev1L
There's a lot of things in this world that should be done the right way, but stick to the wrong decision for image. Look at media and politics and you'll get all the information you need.
2012-11-19 14:39
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#101
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Greece Jerk it out
true
2012-11-19 15:14
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Hahaha what a joke of a decision!
2012-11-19 14:23
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#142
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Serbia Wule123
+1 joke excuse
2012-11-19 15:52
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#13
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United States witty1
That screams professionalism.
2012-11-19 14:23
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#14
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Latvia SHERLOCKTT
READ IT on another site. There is more info with screenshots prooving that NiP didnt want to play on EAC and other proovings. Its just complete shit from admin side. YOU JUST CANT BEAT NiP and ESC :DDDDDDD You understand this guys? YOU CANT BEAT THEM ahahahahahahaha.
2012-11-19 14:23
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2012-11-19 14:25
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#17
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Sweden kYcH
They are not banned just disqualified.
2012-11-19 14:24
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#18
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Europe Naitee
I hope they are allowed to participate in the other qualifiers though.
2012-11-19 14:24
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#24
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
They are. Organizers said that they hope WRTT plays the next qualifiers and makes it to the LAN finals.
2012-11-19 14:27
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#131
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Russia Saint1
basically what that means is theyre allowed to qualify after all the teams THOR wants in the tourney have qualified
2012-11-19 15:38
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#203
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Cyprus awokengiant
seems legit! haha
2012-11-19 17:04
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#21
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Russia daturainoxia
just rematch on LAN and all the dumbasses will shut up.
2012-11-19 14:26
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#28
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
What if they are 5 players like Manne? Online result is still a result and you can't just DQ it because it can't be repeated on LAN. m5 beat ESC 16-0 online (1.6), no chance in hell they can do that on LAN. It's a null point.
2012-11-19 14:28
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#32
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Russia daturainoxia
on LAN there is always someones who stands behind you and watchin your play, thats my point
2012-11-19 14:33
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#22
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Sweden noobzoris
WRTT are known for not being the most legit players in the world...Most of these guys have been playing with cheaters or cheated on their own before...I remember when Lox was playing under the WRTT flag and he drew a dot on his screen during the Esport SM lan finals, just so he could noscope easier...I wouldn't trust these guys, especially not during an event that is played without Anticheat
2012-11-19 14:26
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#42
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Italy Centeh
Oh noes, a dot in the screen! H4xz0rr
2012-11-19 14:35
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#49
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Sweden noobzoris
If you're capable of doing that on LAN..Then you're sure as hell capable of cheating online eh? :)
2012-11-19 14:40
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#136
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Iceland CAZT :]
I wouldnt call it cheating to draw a dot on your screen tbh
2012-11-19 15:42
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#160
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Netherlands KUBUSPATS
It's not hacking, but it is cheating.
2012-11-19 16:11
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#166
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France sweetsixteen
Really? So having a dot when you play awp every gunround so you can fastzoom on 1000 yards if you want to is not cheating? Awesome noob is awesome.
2012-11-19 16:15
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#173
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Iceland CAZT :]
heuheheuheueuhehhueuehueuhhuehuehu
2012-11-19 16:24
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#133
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Russia Saint1
are you really going to equate drawing a dot on your screen to full on hacking?
2012-11-19 15:40
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They haxxed with bunnyhop script in the past aswell, Even at LAN.
2012-11-19 16:26
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#206
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Sweden Jyllen
Ye, a 4 year old non-working b-hop script. Really haxx1ng...
2012-11-19 17:11
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From fragbite, E-Sport SM anno 2011. Swedish text from october the 9:th, since you are swedish you will understand it): "Strax innan den andra kartan skulle dra ig� kom administrat�na p�-Sport-SM och bad alla sl�a tangentbordet. En r�var ig�. Tidigare har lag hittats med lite allt m�gt, bland annat en prick som satt p�e Run This Town-spelaren Loxs sk�. Laget fick d�n varning, och man hittade otill�a saker i We Run This Towns configs, bland annat ett bunnyjump-script p�oxs dator." So why should you use scripts that is not getting you any benefits/advantages what so ever (?) These guys are plain cheaters with obvious cheater backgrounds. Thats it.
2012-11-19 17:34
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#235
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Sweden Jyllen
I know Lox, he is playing legit. It's a long story, but they where playing the final match on the scene and they had 20 minutes to set up their computers and their settings. But 1 from each team had to go to a pre-final interview in the stream so Lox was the one from WRTT. When he got back 10 minutes later he only had 10 minutes to set up his computer and fix all his settings, he just downloaded his 4 year old cfg coz he couldnt find the other one because the admins said they had to start the match. He even played the first half of the match without any mumble and the opponents sat just behind them... In the config there was a non-working 4 year old b-hop script and stopsound binded. Therefore they got disqualified from the qualifier.
2012-11-19 19:41
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"I know Lox, he is playing legit" You are his friend, as we all have noticed, Yes, but rest is a bad lie or your truth with a very friendly modification. Not "just" these 2 things, it was also previous happenings admins took into consideration before banning this team and now once again disqualify. Do you really think a "4-year"-"non working"(pfft) bhop script is the core essence they getting banned? The admins wich host THOR open are the same ppls who also host E-SPORT-SM, they got all the Real knowledge when it comes down to everyones dark past with several cheating occasions. Thats the relevant part in this story. Not your subjective words/opinion, they got no weight what so ever. IF WRRT are 100% legit they will display this "worlds best skill" by attending the DH W - BOYC, and nothing else. We all now they most likly wont show their faces around bcuz of different reasons. But ofc the primary one is that hackers cant rly match things up to par at LAN when everybody can see what you >Rly< are doing.
2012-11-19 22:58
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Netherlands JUNG13
shame on THOR admins "there is no prove they cheated" "we saw this txt*file and it should be enough to let ESC and NiP go through" It's same as... f.e - I saw you with the apple, you ate it! - But I didn't eat one! - No, I saw you with an apple in your hand, it should be enough
2012-11-19 14:28
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#35
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Poland micronn
+1 She: I saw you with her, you FUCK her! He: No, I'll never do that. She: No, I saw you with her, it's enough for me. In end it was his sister. Like in Brasil melodrama.
2012-11-19 14:38
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couldnt have said any better
2012-11-19 15:01
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#48
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Other ohai
it's not even that bad considering they weren't even seen with an apple but a joke version. it's like - I saw you with the apple, you ate it! - But I didn't eat one! - No, I saw you with a picture of an apple in your hand, it should be enough
2012-11-19 14:39
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#27
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India h8or
Come on WRTT, we all want to see you on BYOC DH. Even if you can perform 60% of what you did over the weekend, you will win the hearts of many!
2012-11-19 14:28
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#191
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India spiderCAKE
Yep, it'd be nice even if they beat ESC since Neo openly challenged them on LAN. Wanna see ESC's faces when they lose to them on LAN finals.
2012-11-19 16:52
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#29
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Finland unef0is
Ridiculous by Thor
2012-11-19 14:29
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#33
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Denmark kozalityeah
The finalists are of course VeryGames and WRTT. If not, let's just boycut the tournament itself, to show that these manners of such "professional" admins simply cannot be made. We're talking prizes for more than half a million Swedish kroners, don't do silly stuff like that just to protect your own team. Gosh it's stupid..
2012-11-19 14:33
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#38
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United Kingdom NipXe
Still bs. Fair enough to apologise, but where is the compensation...
2012-11-19 14:34
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#39
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Norway M0LTEN
Extremely bad admins tbh!
2012-11-19 14:34
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#41
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Denmark zikkanht
Haters gonna hate :o]
2012-11-19 14:34
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#43
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Sweden wmb
wrtt go dreamhack thx bye
2012-11-19 14:35
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#45
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Other ohai
tl;dr version: we scoured through their demos, found nothing, and banned them anyway
2012-11-19 14:37
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#46
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Denmark MoMs
Bullshit.. Thor open really is crap, no hard evidence and still DQ? Laughing so hard.
2012-11-19 14:38
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#50
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Hungary iNhailed
Smbdy please keep DDOSing NiP-ESC match.
2012-11-19 14:40
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#51
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United States Tarsus
Should be BZSX vs WRTT in finals
2012-11-19 14:41
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Nice to see the admins standing by their decision, despite people on HLTV seeming very fickle as to whether they believe WRTT cheat or not. As I said before: if WRTT go to DH BYOC, win, then smash NiP and ESC on LAN, then nobody will consider them cheaters. Until then, they're still suspect.
2012-11-19 14:42
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#134
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Russia Saint1
it should be innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around
2012-11-19 15:41
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#147
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Hungary iNhailed
I totally agree.
2012-11-19 15:55
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#193
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Sweden BIRK
And then they win the whole tournament by cheating, great idea!
2012-11-19 16:53
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#194
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Russia Saint1
the admins themselves have said theres no real proof plus the quals are online, the actual tourney is supposed to be on lan
2012-11-19 16:54
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#199
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Italy VoHiYo
Cheating on LAN seems like a great idea doesn't it?
2012-11-19 16:58
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#198
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United Kingdom grimbob
No, they weren't cheating as proven by the admins and anyone who takes two minutes to watch the demos. They don't have to prove anything, the accusers do.
2012-11-19 16:58
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#54
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Poland Ventori
Finally admins kick out WRTT...
2012-11-19 14:43
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#55
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Denmark realition
Decision should be reversed. It's not the 1/4.
2012-11-19 14:43
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#56
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Australia chrisk_22
At the end of the day if the player was innocent he wouldn't of deleted the vods rather just defended himself straight out saying it was a joke.
2012-11-19 14:44
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#76
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Slovakia The Edge
He didn't delete them...just made them private and then public again.
2012-11-19 14:56
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#57
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Brazil vamolisarb
well done thor!
2012-11-19 14:45
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#58
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Iceland yannay
_|_ this for N!P , ESC and THOR Admins if WRTT proves on LAN that they are not the cheaters and vice versa ! that moment for WRTT players wouldn't come back again.
2012-11-19 14:45
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#59
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Romania nawxin
so bad admins on THOR.
2012-11-19 14:46
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#62
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Singapore hohi
LOL so they are disqualifying the team because of a .txt file. Omg what idiots. Well this settles it, there will never be a no name team winning something online vs teams with a reputation because they just confirmed that they watched the demos and found nothing and banned them because they did not trust them. GL online scene.
2012-11-19 14:50
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#63
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United Kingdom kumatwelve
Didn't think they would go back on their decision they still want to see NiP vs VG and they also want WRTT to qualify in another tournament. hltv.org/blog/6116-we-run-this-lan-can-c..
2012-11-19 14:48
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#64
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Poland tfg
lool, to obv. that they cheated XD if here is any person who has cheated in the past, in maybe esl matches, or other league, when he tried to cover himself, and he will watch jw's demo now, he will see that there are a lot of cheater's moves :D I know what Im talking about. Guy who never cheated, wont understand it XD
2012-11-19 14:49
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#66
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Brazil mj -f
Why dont they give the spots to both NiP and ESC already? I mean, the lack of professionalism here makes me laugh. By the way, I hope VG rape NiP.
2012-11-19 14:52
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#67
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Portugal ALCHEMISTGOD
only way = REMATCHHHHHH
2012-11-19 14:53
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#87
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Italy Centeh
No fuck it, WRTT won and they deserve to play the final.
2012-11-19 15:03
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#164
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Singapore hohi
rematch suggests that WRTT did cheat but they have no evidence so why would you rematch?
2012-11-19 16:14
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#234
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Portugal ALCHEMISTGOD
rematch sugests that they might have cheated or might not, they cannot be sure.. there is no proof if the .txt was a joke or not, thats why
2012-11-19 19:38
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#68
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Romania nawxin
WE WANT TOO SEE WRTT IN FINAL!
2012-11-19 14:53
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#69
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Germany Mirze
Did admins really consider letting those cheaters back in? :O
2012-11-19 14:54
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#72
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Sweden Polox
Well known cheaters from 1.6 are not trustworthy? What a shock!
2012-11-19 14:56
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#78
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Brazil vamolisarb
haha +1
2012-11-19 14:57
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#74
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India coolaaks
FUCK THOR....wait for DH xD
2012-11-19 14:56
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#75
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India Saske ^--^
I dont find these Thor admins trustworthy!! Why dont u play with Anti Cheat then! Go to Dreamhack ffs WRTT!
2012-11-19 15:01
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#79
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Europe lanceV
WRTT > all (if online and no AC)
2012-11-19 14:57
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#80
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Italy -hertz
someone got raped -.- !
2012-11-19 14:58
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#81
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Poland salex44
Well, I watched 2 videos of that team and for me it's quite obious that they cheated. It's hard to find any evidences if there's no anti cheat or anything that could help admins to make the right decision.
2012-11-19 14:58
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#82
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Germany lloyd6077
What a shame from THOR just because they THINK that they MIGHT hack, they're banning them? seriously this is more than dumb, in my mind this guys potential is worser than a 1kg potatoe bag. thx
2012-11-19 15:02
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#93
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World UNNAMED1111
They didn't ban them. They got disqualified from the 6th qualifier.
2012-11-19 15:08
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#84
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Romania KwSv
If they are not "trust worthy" as the admins say, they should be banned from all thor tournaments, anyway, for this decision I will not watch thor open, not even the main event not even the finals, they suck.
2012-11-19 15:01
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#86
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Portugal ghosteh
who keeps a file saying you acquired (actually bought lol sad) cheats as a joke? wheter he cheated or not I guess he has learned the lesson about playing with players of ESC and NiP level online with those "jokes" on the pc. If they are that good they will pop-up very soon at lan events dont worry.
2012-11-19 15:03
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#88
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Australia rocketry
Worst statement ever. THOR you look like complete idiots and will no doubt lose a lot of respect due to the the conclusions and stances you have come to, very weak and pathetic. For what its worth i think they did in fact cheat, but the way in which THOR has gone about excluding is a down right joke. Based on their findings i actually want to see WRTT put back in.
2012-11-19 15:09
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#89
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Greece her-1g
debatable decision...but who cares if they are good they should perfom on lan
2012-11-19 15:06
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#90
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Sweden maxxxx
Bullshit DQ tbh. Really poorly handled by THOR admins and of course they dont have the "courage" to stand up to NiP and ESC. They DQ them on empty grounds since they dont have any proof of WRTT cheating.
2012-11-19 15:08
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#91
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Vietnam vniik
This was really good lesson for Thor Admin. The case would be simple if he went: "Hey, I saw a lot of weird things in your play, I disqualify you!" THE END. And no one would complaint anything about txt file.
2012-11-19 15:08
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#92
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India monk4june
Pathetic logic behind this decision.
2012-11-19 15:08
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#125
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Iceland yannay
+1
2012-11-19 15:34
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#94
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Denmark MSAA
It's okay that they are giving them a public apology, but that doesn't change a thing about how they feel now. It must be a little bitter-sweet taste for jw and co. given the fact, that THOR are indirectly saying, that they don't think, WRTT cheated at any time. At least they are free from any further charges towards them now, and they can still play anything they want, but that doesn't justify the fact, that the big and known teams are above the unknown players what comes to justice. I had really hoped, that THOR would let WRTT get their wins against both NiP and ESC, which in my head was the right thing to do.
2012-11-19 15:08
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#97
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Germany fr0zen^
1+
2012-11-19 15:10
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#104
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Denmark MoMs
+1
2012-11-19 15:17
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#96
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Slovakia STYKOp
So participation of teams in leagues and tournaments is based on a admins' and organisators' trust? that's pretty lame tbh :<
2012-11-19 15:10
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#103
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India SonuV
What a joke of a decision.
2012-11-19 15:20
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#106
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Bulgaria NfinitY3
oh god - its gonna be such a drama if WRTT go to DH :) omg cant wait ...
2012-11-19 15:20
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#117
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Vietnam vniik
I really want to see their faces at DH. If they got talents, why not prove it On-Lan? I encounter many cheaters who could cheat "naturally" (without being banned) and become a "super star" only Online. Really hope WRTT not one of them.
2012-11-19 15:31
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#108
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Czech Republic S4MUR4J
:D
2012-11-19 15:22
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#110
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Russia Saint1
creating strong accusations against the mix team from both top players as well as players of lower establishment called it, nip and esc making decisions for the admins i call BULLSHIT on thor admins you didnt make the decision. the players and the fanboys online made it for you way to run a tournament, letting others decide your rules
2012-11-19 15:26
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#129
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Iceland yannay
+1
2012-11-19 15:37
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#111
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Sweden carn
That statement did not make any sense at all. As I understand it they did not even ban WRTT from future THOR events, correct? If this is the case it's extra ridiculous as they were apparently disqualified for "cheating", but are still welcome to return and compete in future THOR events when must-have teams has finally already qualified. I wonder how the society would look if we would convict people based on lack of trust. Please make me believe in mankind.
2012-11-19 15:28
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#120
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Italy Centeh
Exactly, they are not banned. This is just incredibly ridiculous. If I was in NiP I would just retire from the tournament in form of protest in the name of fair-play.
2012-11-19 15:32
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#162
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Denmark kozalityeah
They are partners with THOR, it's all chea within the partnership to maintain the money THOR are sending towards the Ninjas every month, and not letting them win just a bite of the 650.000SEK would be dumb of them - but robbering others possibility, is just lack of respect towards mankind.
2012-11-19 16:14
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#132
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United States arucarD
Society already does so. One person suspected of a murder even if innocent, will still have damage done to their careers and livelihood no matter its outcome. But if that person posed with a picture of the deceased with a gun pointing towards it, it is circumstantial evidence, but evidence nonetheless and will make them the center of more scrutiny and or prejudice. You do NOT tease, taunt, flaunt or even attempt to showcase such as a supposed joke. That is just common sense, never incriminate yourself when accused.
2012-11-19 15:39
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#113
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Australia mnyrzkarn
So, THOR acknowledges they made a donkey-decision, but do not want to reverse the decision because of the possibility of harming their image? Thumbs up ..
2012-11-19 15:28
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#114
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Germany rittu
the polish programmer did some decent work here. free marketing for his hacks on hltv.org, gratz!
2012-11-19 15:28
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#127
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Slovakia Strenki
:P
2012-11-19 15:35
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#116
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Russia Saint1
the end of the statement should be signed We have no idea what we are doing, THOR Open CS:GO Officials instead of Best regards, THOR Open CS:GO Officials
2012-11-19 15:30
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#118
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Brazil towdAkiNg
they cheated. :)
2012-11-19 15:31
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#123
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
What a ridiculous way to handle the situation, really, i'm disgusted
2012-11-19 15:33
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#163
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Denmark kozalityeah
+1
2012-11-19 16:14
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#126
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Taiwan albertowang
Nice excuse, "we lost our trust towards the team and disqualified them." Where does THOR find these admins that make these types of decisions just based on pure intuition and take a .txt file that doesn't prove anything as evidence? I mean, getting a screenshot from the mail sent by organner IS EVIDENCE, but a .txt file that can be written by a no brainer? Admins just prefer to hear top players words instead of random mix-teams', or maybe because a ESC vs NIP match would attract more viewers???
2012-11-19 15:35
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#159
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Czech Republic boleq
he did this to himself by his own stupidy...why the hell u need to do this kind of idiotic jokes about purchasing cheats after u beat worlds best team? maybe they are not cheaters but they definitly are untrustworthy
2012-11-19 16:10
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#169
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Denmark kozalityeah
Oh my god. You must be the dumbest person using this site - and there's a lot, lol... Have you even read ANYTHING of WRTT's statement? If so(+not) read it again, because you obviously don't have a clue of what you're talking about. It was made back in June (25th if I'm correct) and re-edited the 5th of November, come on, would you? It is probably an old joke towards a mate or a regular hater. You are ignorant just like the other haters. Don't feed THOR with undeserved pride of their decision, it's horrible to the game that we all love, Counter-Strike - whether it's 1.6, promod, online, CZ, Source og Global Offensive!
2012-11-19 16:18
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Lol at the statement.
2012-11-19 15:38
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#135
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Germany lloyd6077
next time we dont have to record pov demos, we have to show all .txt files!11 textdocument anticheat ? srsly?
2012-11-19 15:41
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#155
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Czech Republic boleq
next time dont do super stupid jokes about purchasing cheats after u smash NiP online without AC
2012-11-19 16:08
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#170
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Denmark kozalityeah
next time dont post super stupid posts on a public site where everyone can see ur obvious stupidity
2012-11-19 16:19
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#183
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Czech Republic boleq
jeez post some valid comments not this bullshit would you? Im not here for convicing some brainless guy who thinks that its ok to make stupid jokes about purchasing cheats after u beat NiP and yes I did read it and who cares if its an old joke...its still idiotic "joke" which cost them spot in Thor. get over it.
2012-11-19 16:43
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#242
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Denmark kozalityeah
He did not made the joke towards the Ninjas in Pyjamas. It's just ridiculous.
2012-11-19 22:37
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#138
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France TheblanD
I don't know what to say about all this, but many seem to forget that what has REALLY caused this kind of disputes to happen is all the cheaters out there. This would never have happened if people didn't cheat at all. WRTT is now paying for what thousands of cheaters have done to e-sports before them. I'm not saying it's the right decision, but i have inderstanding for the admins tough situation. Cheats nowadays are not what they used to be. Shaking crosshairs do not exist if you configure the cheat the way you want it. Google Immunity Duo and you will find videos published just to display how hard (impossible) it is to detect. No existing anticheat will detect it so it will only scare off the ones that uses older free cheats. I have watched some demos of people using it and i can't really say "ah there it is, busted" because there is always reasonable doubt, could have been a natural shake or just VERY fast reactions. How could i tell? There is no "proof available" if i don't have access to the persons PC and i can't see how it would be possible to get access fast enough after a dispute to find evidence. easily deleted in 5 seconds. This is the real problem, not nervous organizers.
2012-11-19 15:46
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#148
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Bulgaria HellRose
+1
2012-11-19 15:56
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#180
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World shackes
That's the only reasonable thing I've read all day...
2012-11-19 16:37
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#213
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Sweden Polox
Well to be precise, they are paying for what they did to themself. They are KNOWN for cheating in 1.6, who would not question whether they cheat or not in :GO? Especially after the "joke"
2012-11-19 17:48
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#139
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
Good. jesus where do these snotty kids find inspiration to be idiots like this. very shameful for sweden.
2012-11-19 15:47
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Btw no player from WRTT gave his own clarification. did anyone??
2012-11-19 15:49
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#141
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Malta Eneko*
fuckin thor no rly guys.. this tournament with out anti cheat and now the ban the team bec they think they cheated... put some anti cheat and proves this.. and no respect to esc bec they got nothing on them too
2012-11-19 15:51
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#144
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Brazil gus p.
pure bullshit.
2012-11-19 15:53
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#145
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France Saty
Shame on THOR admin who take their decision way too fast. Next time think before act like dumb. THOR admin should give WRTT back to the final.
2012-11-19 15:54
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"This made us watch 430 rounds in total, all WRTT demos from both matches, without finding anything suspicious enough to convict the team." LOL 430 wasn't suspicious but a .txt file (lol) is a reason. seems legit
2012-11-19 15:55
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#171
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Denmark kozalityeah
The writer of THOR really thought he could save it with that 430-rounds quote, and then ten lines beneath ruin it all once again, made me laugh badly!
2012-11-19 16:20
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#149
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Sweden dOzErFF~
FREE JESPERW
2012-11-19 15:58
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well he made the VOD private because of accusations and made it public again after he got proper reasons to defend 'rumored' cheating.
2012-11-19 15:59
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#153
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Czech Republic boleq
yeah its a common thing to smash the worlds best team such as NiP and then pull out that really funny joke about purchasing the cheats...this guy is soooo smart...if he only would shut the fuck up and dont do those "funny" jokes about it, it would have been ok, but now he seems untrustworthy for his stupid jokes which is completly his own fault. I agree with admins and even more, they have final decision, not just some random retards from hltv.org who acts like sheeps
2012-11-19 16:06
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#172
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Denmark kozalityeah
... if only yoou would shut the fuck up and don't post "funny" posts all over HLTV, it would've been okay
2012-11-19 16:22
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#156
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Europe hest1
what the hell..WRTT asked to play with EAC, NIP couldnt do it, and now WRTT are banned without any proof that they cheated, if someone cheated, it would show in some of the 430 rounds they specced.. admins are just afraid to stand up to NIP and ESC
2012-11-19 16:09
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#157
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Vietnam M1nh
killed a person and apologized. ok you're free to go. lol
2012-11-19 16:10
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#167
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Portugal ENERG1EofLDS
thats why death penalty is forbiden in Portugal, because in case of error, there is no coming back. that and the violation of the constitutional right to live. this decision to disqualify, given that WRTT already proved that they didnt cheat (i guess), is total joke. i understand that ESC and NIP would bring way more attention to the event, but u cant deny that they got beaten!
2012-11-19 16:18
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#224
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Portugal dav1dZ
why the hell are you comparing an e-sports thing with a real life example? everyone knows that in real life there are qualified judges etc, not in e-sports (saving some ones ofc)
2012-11-19 18:31
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#161
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Europe brooklynlol
This is litterally the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Lol.
2012-11-19 16:14
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#165
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India Saske ^--^
Admins Of Thor, I want to ask u a question!! U disqualified WRTT coz u didnt find them trustworthy!! Temme, When schnieder's team won Thor open , Why didnt u disqualify dem?? .. Ders enuf proof now that Schnieder had also had dat organner.pl !! I am nt telling dat Schnieder cheated during the Thor open , bt dey have been in cheating loop many a times in cs 1.6!.. U find dem trustworthy enuf to get one of the 8 LAN positions??
2012-11-19 16:15
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#179
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France sweetsixteen
Maybe because the person behind saying schneider cheats is wmb and only wmb with different accounts, nobody cares there is no cheatmovie of schneider in CSGO only a screenshot someone has made and saying that it's his desktop. Until there is a cheatmovie of schneider i suggest people ( wmb ) to stop saying he is a cheater in CSGO
2012-11-19 16:35
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#174
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Sweden e.mouse
2012-11-19 16:24
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#175
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France sweetsixteen
I actually think the movie of jw is not legit, that it is cheat but, with this bad and retarded statement just give them the final vs verygames or else it's just retarded, why disqualify them when not even banning them from the next qualifiers? Sense? none.
2012-11-19 16:25
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#177
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Ukraine baus
I don't know if they cheated or not,but this is not enough to disqualify an team.Need a concrete proof.Bad decision from THOR admins in my opinion!
2012-11-19 16:33
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#178
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Ukraine gungrave
whats wrong with this admins lol
2012-11-19 16:33
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#181
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France sweetsixteen
Something still questions me, how can people not say there is proof out there? have people even seen the video? youtube.com/watch?v=w-8haSl9iG0
2012-11-19 16:37
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#182
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Latvia pRopaaNS
Because it`s bad bustmovie, without any analysis and most of those moments were seen during stream anyway. It`s sayd that there is smoke bug as well.
2012-11-19 16:40
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#188
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Ukraine baus
fuskbugg.se/dl/StCWkB/smokebuggggg.jpg Worst bustmovie i ever seen...Yes a saw some suspicious action but still not enough for me.
2012-11-19 16:48
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#192
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Finland ZoqFotPik
lol nothing even suspicious in that "bustmovie". normal cs action
2012-11-19 16:52
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#225
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Portugal dav1dZ
lol that proofs nothing, i did care to see all the stream and that shot through smoke was pretty standard and so were the others, besides the Thor staff already said they found nothing by watching 400 WRTT demos
2012-11-19 18:32
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#184
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France Splatch
It seems like i'm the only one who think the move is perhabs the better to do ? I mean, again all this drama about the .txt is because of the player, not admins.. And yes, the problem here it's you cant ban for a .txt and some "questionable" rounds, but for me you cant let's play someone in your tournament online with comportement like that. And the "hide" move of the vod was again a really bad one.. For me the admin done what they have to do, and next time we will see in lan if their play was legit or not. (Sorry for my english)
2012-11-19 16:44
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#185
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Turkey catmandoo
Incompetent admining.
2012-11-19 16:46
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#187
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Finland ZoqFotPik
NiP paid them, heard it here first
2012-11-19 16:48
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#190
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India Shrikky**
Good Job admins ,kids will cry.. I know how tough it is to take a side in these kind of conflicts, like u said they might never had cheated... but a "joke" with cheat name.. on the day of tournament is just too lame... I wouldt risk having any cheats on my pc if im playing online tourney.... Hacking sucks anyway, will never go beyond medicore.
2012-11-19 16:49
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#195
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United Kingdom grimbob
So as I said, no evidence, just butthurt poles and the nerds in NiP.
2012-11-19 16:55
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#197
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World doh
bullshit statement.. shame on THOR !!
2012-11-19 16:57
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#201
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Lithuania thoveN
retarded Counter-strike scene strikes again...
2012-11-19 17:01
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#204
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France jaimez
As I said, I hope your event will be a huge failure.
2012-11-19 17:05
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#205
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Australia davestr1zl
That is honestly pathetic. They watch all the demos and find nothing worthy of a disqualification. Then disqual them for a completely irrelevant text file and temporarily making a vod stream private (then public again.. its still there) which is just about the most bullshit reason ever. Then openly admit that they made a mistake and probably shouldnt have done it... but arent changing it and making it right. WTF?
2012-11-19 17:10
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#208
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STOLENNN1 | 
Italy stolennn1
New reason to be disqualified: not being trustworthy. We're really falling apart.
2012-11-19 17:17
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#212
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World MACS.
agree
2012-11-19 17:43
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#210
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Turkey zeE!
f*ck off THOR!
2012-11-19 17:32
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#211
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Finland KRNG^
a rage after loose and HoP u can replay :) nice to be in ESC/NiP for have lot of chance ^^
2012-11-19 17:41
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#215
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India RemaKe4D
Sad Decision but lets move on me cheering for verygames to win the final :) Oh sorry then they will accuse them for cheating because they have not defeated NIP on lan :P :p :) THOR admins strong Others Wrong :P
2012-11-19 17:58
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#216
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Czech Republic DaniDM
It's really unfair, ESC and NiP should at least give an apology for their statements...
2012-11-19 18:02
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#217
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France panic-D-
Imho, LLL should play against ESC first.
2012-11-19 18:08
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#218
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Sweden noobzoris
One thing that came to my attention is, why is NiP getting so much hate? I haven't seen or heard any statement at all from them regarding their match against WRTT. The only ones who got butthurt to the max was ESC, and NiP is getting a fair share of the blame for it.
2012-11-19 18:15
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#220
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Germany Dok1
THOR OPEN is a really bad joke, not gonna watch any of the matches.
2012-11-19 18:17
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#221
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Spain ferk
Wrong decision by the organization. They ignored the #1 rule for justice: innocent until proven guilty. They even recognize that there is no proof of them cheating amd disqualified them because of lack of trust.
2012-11-19 18:24
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#222
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Sweden Flurpan
What a fucking joke really. Win vs ESC with 16-0 is not even hard every mid/high team on irc can do that in sweden. THOR is a fucking joke. But what to expect when THOR is sponsring NIP no one can win vs them on THOR i guess.
2012-11-19 18:26
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#226
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Sweden potatojoe
Then NiP should have a ban to because it says that a team that have a partnership cant be in a tournament with same name?!?!?! or am i wrong?
2012-11-19 18:36
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#227
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Germany Dok1
Will they be able to take part in the next THOR Open Qualifier? They didn't mention it but from what they said it doesen't sound like they would allow them to take part again. "we lost our trust towards the team and disqualified them." Oh and btw; You have to be f****** sure when you ban a team from a competition with such a prizepot, you just can't decide this by your "feelings" telling you that they aren't trustworthy.
2012-11-19 18:41
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jw busted, deal with it
2012-11-19 18:44
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#229
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Denmark MSAA
He isn't busted? If you were able to read the statement in this new, you would know, that there is more proof of you being a fool in your statement, than there is of jw or any of his teammates cheating throughout the qualifier.
2012-11-19 18:54
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#231
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Finland KRNG^
when u see NiP & THOR friend u can speak cheat rules
2012-11-19 19:12
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#237
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
here we go again :S
2012-11-19 19:44
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#238
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Greenland pikkubena
Shame on you jw.
2012-11-19 19:45
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#240
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Bosnia and Herzegovina lemSa
nice to know that someone can beat ESC&NiP
2012-11-19 20:28
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#241
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
i'm waiting for "WRTT on 'THOR admins on WRTT controversy'"
2012-11-19 22:14
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#244
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Sweden lytter
Embaaaaarrrassing fragbite & THOR!
2012-11-19 23:00
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#246
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
SANTA BARBARA!
2012-11-19 23:28
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#247
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Sweden badboll
Once a cheater, always a cheater. What did u expect?
2012-11-19 23:38
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#250
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Netherlands trix0r
trustworthy enough? Wtf is that... get fucked THOR :)
2012-11-20 22:25
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