DHW preview: groups A & B

After four team introduction articles covering each of the fourteen known participants, it's time for our official preview for groups A and B at DreamHack.

DreamHack uses an odd system where quarter-finals for the first two groups are played out prior to the second two groups even starting, so we're adjusting our usual preview format.

This time we're going to have two different previews for the first two days of DreamHack Winter 2013, each focusing on the next day's group stage and its following quarter-finals, and then a third preview for the finals day.

If you've missed some of the introduction articles, below are links for the four installments we've released over the course of the past three days, covering all of the teams mentioned below:

Part 1/4 - France Clan-Mystik, Denmark n!faculty, Sweden fnatic, Poland Universal Soldiers
Part 2/4 - Sweden SK Gaming, France Recursive eSports, Sweden LGB eSports
Part 3/4 - Denmark Cph Wolves, Ukraine Natus Vincere, United States compLexity, United States iBUYPOWER
Part 4/4 - France VeryGames, Sweden NiP, Ukraine Astana Dragons

It's worth noting for our newer readers that the predictions at the end of each group/match are merely somewhat educated guesses for the fun of it and should not be taken too seriously.


fnatic's renewed lineup is coming off of MSI Beat it 2nd place finish

Group A (Sweden fnatic, France Clan-Mystik, Ukraine Natus Vincere, Sweden LGB eSports)

This group has three teams that are the most even out of all the groups at DreamHack Winter. Virtually any two of the trio between Natus Vincere, Clan-Mystik and fnatic could advance, in any given order. To make matters more interesting, LGB eSports are no pushovers themselves, and have in the past defeated Natus Vincere on LAN at TECHLABS Cup Minsk. fnatic are fresh off a confidence building second place finish at MSI Beat it! Grand Finals in Beijing, but lack serious practice time due to the recent addition of Markus "pronax" Wallsten, who took over the in-game leader position that was previously held by three different members of the team in a five month span.

Clan-Mystik are arguably the most interesting team to watch in the group stage out of anyone at DreamHack, simply because they're still, even after winning ESWC out of nowhere, such an unknown to most of us. It's impossible to put a finger down on the Frenchmen who I could see either winning the group, securing a favorable bracket and going as far as to finish in fourth place, or even upset Astana Dragons for a third place finish, or whom I could just as likely see going 0-2 in the group stage and falling back to no man's land in the world rankings. The squad of Dan "apEX" Madesclaire have potential, and if they wish to be taken seriously by the world, they will have to do well this week.

Natus Vincere are a solid team, reasonably ranked somewhere between the fourth and eighth spot in world rankings. They've scored wins over very good teams, but they've also showed inconsistency in recent play, especially since the nineteen year-old Denis "seized" Kostin took over the in-game leader position on the team from Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko. The biggest knock on Na`Vi is their lack of firepower compared to some of the other teams in the tournament, so the likes of Sergey "starix" Ischuk will have to have some good games for Na`Vi to proceed through to the playoffs from group A; if all five of them have mediocre events, the Ukrainians are toast.

Finally we have LGB eSports, who have been fairly inconsistent themselves, but who definitely hold some decent potential for upsets in the best-of-one stage of the tournament. I don't think they will do too well in Jönköping for reasons named in the team introduction article, and luckily DreamHack is using the GSL-style double elimination group stage which will stop a single upset from messing an entire group up through an ugly three-way-trie, so their impact on the tournament will likely remain small.

Prediction: 1. Clan-Mystik, 2. Natus Vincere


KIOSHIMA to lead Clan-Mystik to first place of their group, again

Group B (Sweden NiP, United States iBUYPOWER, France Recursive, Poland Universal Soldiers)

The second group of Thursday isn't completely unlike group A in the sense that it includes three fairly equal teams in iBUYPOWER, Universal Soldiers and Recursive eSports. However, Recursive are proportionally weaker in the trio than anyone out of group A's three teams, and NiP, the fourth team in group B, are the sure lock to advance from the group, whereas in group A the fourth team was the weakest of the bunch. Regardless, the second group should have plenty of action with NiP likely going through in first place, and the American and Polish sides fighting for a second playoff spot.

NiP are the second best team in the world, have two of the world's best four players on an individual level, are fresh off the strongest year long period in any Counter-Strike version's history, and there is no reason to think they will realistically not make it though this group. That is not to say it couldn't ever happen, as they were one extremely lucky one-on-three defuse by in-game leader Richard "Xizt" Landström away from being eliminated in the group stage of DreamHack Winter, but if it did it'd be such a huge upset you couldn't ever predict it based on anything but a hunch.

iBUYPOWER are to me the most interesting team in this group. As usual the squad built around the former Curse core are doing very well in their own continent as they've defeated compLexity twice in a best-of-three series, and the addition of Sam "DaZeD" Marine should help the team do much better on LAN than they've done in the past. It's still a question mark whether or not the rest o this team can deliver on LAN internationally; the Curse squad who struggled in Europe put in some close games with NiP on American soil, but it's not the same thing as all the pressure of DreamHack and its $250,000 prize purse. For the Americans the stakes are even higher due to their new sponsorship deal with computer giant iBUYPOWER, and the fact a second place finish in the group could net them an impressive fourth place finish due to a lucky bracket draw.

Universal Soldiers, featuring a young in-game leader in Janusz "snax" Pogorzelski, have gotten back on the track the ESC core was on in late 2012 and even early on in 2013 before their struggles began. They scored a 3-4th place finish in Cologne a month ago, and although they've been as inconsistent online as the Poles have been through times, they've looked pretty good overall and the track record of its ESC trio speaks highly of their odds for a surprise performance in a true major tournament; something Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas loudly longed for much earlier in 2013. They are favorites to go through in second place and could go on to face as highly as third due to their bracket draw. Despite their advantage over iBP, I'm predicting an upset in this group.

Prediction: 1. NiP, 2. iBUYPOWER


One year after his international debut Skadoodle will try to do better at DH Winter

Quarter-finals (A1 vs. B2, B1 vs. A2)

First quarter-final will net the winner of group A against the second place finisher in group B.

That makes the match-up extremely tough to predict as three different teams could very likely finish on top of the group A, and the second place finisher in group B is by no means decided. To talk a little about the match-up, let's just say this is going to be by far the the most even quarter-final of the four, assuming NiP doesn't get upset. This is the only quarter-final that won't feature any of the world's best three teams, so anyone sneaking in here has a real chance of getting lucky and finishing in the top four; in other quarter-finals you could theoretically be the world's fourth best team, but without being one of the top three teams, a very unlikely feat at DreamHack, you won't be ranked or paid as one.

I actually think out of all the possible match-ups in the first quarter-finals, Clan-Mystik probably have the best chance of making top four. I didn't have as much faith in them during our predictions in [POD]Cast episode #18 yesterday, but come to think of all these teams in a best- of-three setting, with the leadership of both Universal Soldiers and Natus Vincere being on the shoulders of younger players, I actually think the Frenchmen can prevail. I also think fnatic would have a good chance in a best-of-three series, potentially better than a best-of-one due to a slight advantage in leadership, but since I predicted they'd go out in group A, that possibility will be ignored here. I frankly don't know how I talked myself into thinking Clan-Mystik will make top four at DreamHack Winter, but that's the case anyways, though I think iBUYPOWER has a very good chance of upsetting them due to being a more unknown team to them, if the Americans go through group B.

The second quarter-final of day one won't be nearly as interesting. I have a hard time imagining any of their potential opponents putting up a real fight against NiP in a best-of-three series, so the Ninjas should easily cruise through the first day of competition. NiP features the world's number one fnatic killer of recent years in Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg, and they simply have a massive edge over the franchise, though they haven't fared as well against Wallsten's teams. Regardless, they are simply too strong for everyone they could possibly face in the quarter-finals, and will be taking them down en route to securing a semi-finals spot for Saturday afternoon.

Prediction: Clan-Mystik and NiP to semi-finals


NiP expected to stroll through their group and quarter-final

Tomorrow we will release our second group stage and quarter-final preview, set to focus on Friday's groups C and D, as well as the quarter-final match-ups from those groups.

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Poland tfgFTW
GOGOGO NIP
2013-11-27 20:30
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Estonia AWM55
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2013-11-27 21:21
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Brazil autismo
its just me or lurppis hates fnatic? lol
2013-11-27 21:52
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World eyepopler123
lurppis hates fifflaren too
2013-11-27 23:13
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Luxembourg moheLdIAbLo
i agree
2013-11-27 20:30
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Portugal vts*HGI
I dont agree with the second group. i think US will pass the groupstage :)
2013-11-27 20:31
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Netherlands liQuid^moTion
I really dont know. US has been looking great lately but IBP is the best US team atm, dazed is such an amazing IGL :o
2013-11-27 20:34
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Portugal vts*HGI
True, we all hope for a gr8 match but US are very solid atm :b
2013-11-27 20:42
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Netherlands liQuid^moTion
aye, I really wish wiktor n philip will at least win one international gold medal in GO
2013-11-27 22:49
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Poland menace89
Apparently ibp has been playing very well in praccs vs euros. It's their time to shine
2013-11-27 21:31
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Europe chespiZ
iBP or coL surprise?
2013-11-27 20:31
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Poland menace89
IBp for sure
2013-11-27 21:31
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United States postwarscars
I really hope iBP finally lives up to their potential. You'd think a team with as many LAN accomplished players on it would do well, but they've been super inconsistent(granted ESEA LAN they had Mosbeck...everyone saw that failure coming). Though this could easily change since DaZeD is now the IGL. coL... I don't even know where to start with that team. They have the potential to be amazing, but they just don't seem to care. If they practiced even remotely as much as iBP/Curse typically do, they could be a real threat to everyone. That was pretty apparent at the ESEA LAN.
2013-11-27 21:44
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Poland menace89
I think col is still in that butthurt 1.6 mode... But it seems like they're putting in lots of time at that bootcamp. Both teams are going to get top 5, i just feel it.
2013-11-28 00:31
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United States postwarscars
All I ask is that they don't end up playing each other head-to-head for most of the tournament. It got tiring seeing these two matched up against each other every time they went to an International event in GO. Though I guess the way the brackets go, they shouldn't. But I totally agree about coL. I'm hoping both teams do well.
2013-11-28 01:38
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Indonesia vyee
Fortunately, according to bracket structure, they wont meet until semis.
2013-11-28 05:08
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United States postwarscars
Yeah, I'm glad to see that. It's kind of stupid seeing the only 2 teams from NA end up knocking each other out early on.
2013-11-28 09:01
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Sweden sebb7
I hope fnatic clinches one spot. NiP and CM still in the semi tho :)
2013-11-27 20:32
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Romania blg-
lel..
2013-11-27 20:32
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Netherlands liQuid^moTion
wow you expect both teams from sweden to go out of group a on home soil? daring bets :P
2013-11-27 20:33
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Sweden Marcus1g
Finally i can 100% agree with lurppis predictions!
2013-11-27 20:33
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Poland Ventori
"Prediction: 1. NiP, 2. iBUYPOWER" lol, r u kidding me? 2 should be US, not unknown iBUYPOWER rofl
2013-11-27 20:33
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Ukraine pzb0b
unknown?! ROFL
2013-11-27 20:40
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Unknown" Lol. Just because you don't know the players and teams doesn't make them unknown. iBP > US.
2013-11-27 20:46
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Poland maxiu
dont look on him such a fanboy ;D hopew to see great match vs this 2 teams I think this match will be to pass a group stage
2013-11-27 22:35
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#76
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Agreed, the winner of this match will take 2nd place in the group. Going to be a very interesting match.
2013-11-27 22:37
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Poland maxiu
maybe someone from this team will take Nip :D hope so but only in dreams propably :D
2013-11-27 23:31
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Canada h0tlamp
Although it's unlikely, iBP do have what it takes to take down NiP
2013-11-28 02:29
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lol who are US dafuq ?
2013-11-27 21:04
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Poland Ventori
Now you know, who they are. hahaha
2013-11-28 17:48
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Poland menace89
Autism alert
2013-11-27 21:32
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Poland zackandmiri
stupid polak
2013-11-27 22:12
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Hungary Tibbze
lolwut?
2013-11-27 23:07
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Canada h0tlamp
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. This will likely be a very close match, and iBP will likely prevail.
2013-11-28 02:26
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Poland Ventori
Wazzup now haters?
2013-11-28 17:48
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Slovenia yung_voodoo
great read
2013-11-27 20:33
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Sweden Sdk.dll
Stop underestimating LGB, lol
2013-11-27 20:35
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+1. I have LGB making it out of groups as 2nd. Those guys are really talented and are gonna surprise a few ppl. (JW best)
2013-11-27 20:58
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Canada arshiA
Onliners
2013-11-27 21:05
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Sweden Sdk.dll
This isn't an NA team we're talking about, go away.
2013-11-27 21:13
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Canada h0tlamp
The only Swedish team NA couldn't defeat on LAN is NiP, and even that isn't out of the question. Nt though.
2013-11-28 02:31
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Sweden Sdk.dll
Yes, and cm won eswc, whats your point? Upsets happen but LGB, fnatic, SK, NiP>col and iBp
2013-11-28 03:49
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Canada h0tlamp
My point is that it wouldn't be an upset. If you actually watched ESWC you'd know LGB isn't > NA, especially considering iBP > coL, SK is overrated and is on a similar level to NA teams, neither of which would be an upset at all.
2013-11-28 05:55
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Sweden Sdk.dll
Just because ibp beat col doesnt mean theyre better Than col at competing with EU, just hf watching ibp crash and burn in groups
2013-11-28 13:17
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Russia PusiGaBre
gl. bad predictions tho
2013-11-27 20:35
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US will top their group. Just saying!
2013-11-27 20:36
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Portugal STRONJS
go nip
2013-11-27 20:37
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Sweden tylerÝ$ /M/
CM big fail you'll see
2013-11-27 20:39
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France Jameeesss
I'm afraid too. I heard KQLY on his stream speaking french with mates, saying they had trouble training for DHW ... It wasn't really clear but that scared me
2013-11-27 20:56
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Hungary Tibbze
hope they make it out of group
2013-11-27 23:09
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Belgium Yoshk
go CM !
2013-11-27 20:41
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Netherlands Grifte
No Recursive paragraph? :p
2013-11-27 20:46
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Sweden Abolishing
haha noticed the same, inb4 kennyS decides to carry them into the quarter finals
2013-11-27 22:23
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United States chichagof
can't wait for CM to fail miserably.
2013-11-27 20:56
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Argentina atriX^
why do you hate them?
2013-11-27 21:16
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Canada h0tlamp
apex deserves a better team, would prefer to see him playing with kennyS
2013-11-28 02:33
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Argentina atriX^
Is that a logical reason to hate a whole team? A team that won the last ESCW.
2013-11-28 02:38
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#101
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Canada h0tlamp
I don't exactly hate them, I would just prefer to see other teams win, and hopefully apex to join a team with other top players.
2013-11-28 02:49
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Argentina atriX^
I wasn't referring to you but to the one I replied to. #22
2013-11-28 02:54
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#104
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Canada h0tlamp
Well, he didn't reply to your post, and you replied to mine, so try replying to the correct person? (who didnt even reply to you... lollll)
2013-11-28 03:01
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Argentina atriX^
I replied to him, he didn't reply. You did and gave a reason for his hating and then I replied back. I didn't reply to a wrong person. :/
2013-11-28 03:05
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#107
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Canada h0tlamp
So what is this non sense about then? "I wasn't referring to you but to the one I replied to. #22"
2013-11-28 03:19
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Portugal andredaking
had no idea that snax was the igl, thought it was Taz .. well, gl to US tomorrow, hope neo keeps getting better and better so they can become a real top team because right now, and correct me if im wrong, he is the worst player on the team.
2013-11-27 20:56
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1. Clan mystik 2.Na'Vi ? This lurppis guy is stupid haha.
2013-11-27 20:56
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Poland Mani3k<.?>
Navi and fnatic go
2013-11-27 21:28
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Poland menace89
Owned
2013-11-27 21:32
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Canada h0tlamp
fnatic > Na'Vi for sure, I think he was consuming drugs at that point in the article
2013-11-28 02:36
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Other tomiii
lurppis and his predictions hahaha
2013-11-27 20:58
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World Yes Bro?
NiP has always struggled during Group Stage! And as its a BO1, i guess IBP will surprise them in group stage itself!
2013-11-27 21:00
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World nevesz
A-NAVI,FNATIC B-NIP , US
2013-11-27 21:00
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MURICA' FUCK YEAH ! Lurppis such an smart man !
2013-11-27 21:01
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Canada h0tlamp
except for 1.CM 2.Na'Vi prediction, that was facepalm
2013-11-28 02:36
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Brazil skuggz
A) 1 - CM, 2 - Fnatic B) 1 - NiP, 2 - US
2013-11-27 21:01
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United States m0rt3n^
I think you're wrong about LGB and Natus Vincere :) we'll see. fnatic is also very likely to advance, alongside LGB! How they play against Mystik is fekkin hard to say! we'll see
2013-11-27 21:11
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Europe tumorjacka
A:1-Clan-Mystik;2-fnatic B:1-NiP;2-iBP
2013-11-27 21:11
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
NaVi over fnatic? Lol, no. You're going to regret that prediction.
2013-11-27 21:12
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Belgium JOONPRILSD
A:1fnatic 2LGB
2013-11-27 21:14
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Belgium beefster
GODDAMN HYPE IS KEEPING ME AWAY FROM MY PAPER!
2013-11-27 21:15
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Poland JUSTICE.
2nd iBUYPOWER haha nice joke, ofc US !
2013-11-27 21:17
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Poland Mani3k<.?>
lurpis so big troll ;f. US maybe 4 ? ;x
2013-11-27 21:22
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Croatia VuKA*
lurppis always best :D
2013-11-27 21:23
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Sweden expected
1. Fnatic, LGB 2. NiP, iBP
2013-11-27 21:25
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1. CM, LGB 2. NiP, iBP
2013-11-27 21:26
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Argentina atriX^
for what I read so far, I think a lot of people underestimate Na`Vi only because the have two young players and having one of those as the IGL. Lets not forget that starix has proven to be a very good awper and this factor could change A group placements. And regardless that seized is now the IGL, nothing restrains Zeus for call any strats mid-game. As for Group B second place I think it can easily end up in a 16-14 score for either team depending on which map they will play.
2013-11-27 21:27
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Poland Slay[U]
Important factor when it comes to NaVi is skill and this factor is against them almost every match with top teams. Next thing is the fact that they play too slow on t side and I remember match on raidcall against US which NaVi lost 16;5 and US were reading them like old book. Hope they have improved since then and go top on their group, then fail against US in round 8 :D
2013-11-27 21:33
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Argentina atriX^
Yes, but the first map they defeated them even though it was not that easy for them. Nevertheless they have shown progress by beating teams like Astana Dragons at LAN. Even though they only won once, the maps they were able to win were mirage, dust2, inferno if I remember correctly. Also I'm don't recall if seized took over as IGL before of after EMS.
2013-11-27 21:45
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Sweden expected
u were rong :D
2013-11-28 14:43
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#135
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Argentina atriX^
Indeed I was. I thought they would be stronger. They were stronger in previous LANS but today other teams look even stronger. Their only chance right now is roster changes.
2013-11-28 15:47
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#58
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Sweden PAX=DDD
navi before fnatic? haha nice one lurppis
2013-11-27 21:33
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#61
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United States Brock Lesnar
fnatic clan mystik NiP and US/IBP
2013-11-27 21:43
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#63
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f0rest | 
Romania front48
Prediction: 1. Clan-Mystik, 2. Natus Vincere cArn is gonna kick you lurppis! =)
2013-11-27 21:44
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#66
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Netherlands Syber
The next 1-2 weeks only swedish flags on HLTV.org. Prepare urself ! :D
2013-11-27 21:57
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#69
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Sweden expected
CANT WAIT
2013-11-27 22:06
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#67
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Belgium KAiiiJENSEN
KIO BANG
2013-11-27 21:59
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#70
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Poland zackandmiri
1. Clan-Mystik, 2. Natus Vincere ? i dont think so
2013-11-27 22:11
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#72
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France Sheld
many overtimes incoming
2013-11-27 22:14
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#74
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World Alsen Stronk
Universal Soldiers EZPZ. 1 Place US, and for 2 place Nip vs Kenny's yeam.
2013-11-27 22:31
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#77
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Poland karmel
1.CM 2.fnatic 1.NiP 2.US
2013-11-27 22:40
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#82
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Poland Doctor_Oetker
I don't get why navi over fnatic? fnatic will roll them out
2013-11-27 23:23
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#83
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Poland zackandmiri
its clear, lurppis dont like swedes :-)
2013-11-27 23:30
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#85
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Germany kim~
en route
2013-11-28 00:04
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#86
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United States tylerGG
All of you are ignorant if you think US is much better then IBP. IBP more CSGO talent but less experience. It will be a very close fight.
2013-11-28 00:22
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#100
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Canada h0tlamp
+1
2013-11-28 02:42
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#87
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Other perekuR
cant wait then navi rape fagnatic Gl jw you ugliest and worst awp
2013-11-28 00:29
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this is really hard to predict! wrong
2013-11-28 00:40
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#90
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United Kingdom knobhead
haha nip given easy group for this tv6 show.
2013-11-28 01:18
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#102
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China Valhalla
A)1.fnatic 2.CM B)1.Nip 2.US semi-final fnatic Nip
2013-11-28 02:53
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#106
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United Kingdom Alth
Think fnatic will take place #2 in group A over Na'Vi. I consider Na'Vi in the top 10, but more towards the lower end myself. I definitely see NiP, VG, AD, Fnatic, Clan-Mystik and CPH wolves ahead of them myself. I think a they are evenly matched with US right now.
2013-11-28 03:07
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I'm predicting Fnatic to take 2nd in Group A. Na'Vi just have not looked good lately, outside of a few good plays from starix and kibaken. I had a hard time predicting whether iBP or US would advance from Group B, but I've gotta give the edge to iBP here. They've gotta be hungry for some international LAN success after Curse's many failures. It also doesn't hurt having a bootcamp in Europe before the event. While I'm afraid iBP can't best CM in the quarters, I don't think their chances are zero. Will be tuning in later to see how they do.
2013-11-28 03:52
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#111
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Sweden Sdk.dll
Group A 1 LGB 2 fnatic/ navi Lol @ Klan-fluke
2013-11-28 03:52
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LOL, worst prediction ever... A: fnatic, LGB B: NiP, Universal Soldiers
2013-11-28 04:54
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#114
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United States m0rt3n^
1. lgb, 2. fnatic 1. nip, 2. ibp
2013-11-28 05:11
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#116
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India n0vaP
Clan-Mystik to fail hard. Even LGB shall beat them. Heard it here first.
2013-11-28 07:47
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#124
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France alyzX
we heard what ? :)
2013-11-28 11:38
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#126
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India n0vaP
You heard it right! :DCheckkout dumb frenchiee!
2013-11-28 14:02
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#128
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France alyzX
hey india, LBG loose to them game one, so it's not a fail ! where are indians at DH ? Ho wait...
2013-11-28 14:10
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#129
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India n0vaP
What an arguement! When did I say Indians are good at CS? They suck big time, I agree to that! But clan mystik is not going to pass the group stage, that's what I meant at first place.
2013-11-28 14:11
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#117
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Australia rocketry
1. NaVi 2. Fnatic 1. NiP 2. Recursive The frenchies will get the second.
2013-11-28 08:08
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#118
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Poland marceloo
GO GO US ! Pawe; "byali" Bielinski Jaroslaw "pasha" Jarzabkowski Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas Filip "Neo" Kubski Janusz "snax" Pogorzelski
2013-11-28 08:36
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#140
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Sweden imonoz
Wiktor "TaZ" Kuklinski
2013-11-28 21:23
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#121
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Denmark bROGAARD
clan mystik will fail this event
2013-11-28 09:41
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#123
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Germany gliss
1. CM, LGB/FNATIC 2. NIP, IBP
2013-11-28 09:53
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lurppis you're the worst predicter of all time. LOL
2013-11-28 14:08
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#132
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Sweden expected
>predicting against Swedish teams >being correct pick one, and only one
2013-11-28 14:42
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#134
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Poland kiero
Prediction: 1. Clan-Mystik, 2. Natus Vincere HAHAHAHA
2013-11-28 15:16
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#136
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India c0rvus
Prediction: 1. Clan-Mystik, 2. Natus Vincere Go home lurppis, you are Drunk!
2013-11-28 15:58
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#137
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Poland Marcines
lurppis nothing new :P
2013-11-28 16:59
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