Could fnatic surprise again at DH?

For a year now Jönköping seems to have been a magical place for fnatic, who have continued to struggle practically everywhere else in the world.

It's worth remembering Epsilon were considered cheaters by many experts and players in the spring of 2013, so they've surely come a very long way already since those days.

Though Markus "pronax" Wallsten's era in fnatic was kick-started in Beijing with a second place finish and a valiant effort against then-VeryGames at MSI Beat It 2013, they rose to stardom with the DreamHack Winter championship.

Prior to Wallsten taking over the reins, and even prior to Epsilon becoming fnatic's CS:GO team, the team's only notable merit was a second place finish at DreamHack Summer 2013.


How will fnatic fare in Jönköping this time around? 

Aside from those two very impressive finishes, Robin "flusha" Rönnquist's teams have struggled, averaging out to a 5-8th place team, though with much more variance, both in good and bad, than the rest of them.

It's somewhat perplexing that they, while holding so much potential, almost always seem to crack under pressure before reacing the top finishes. They haven't lost against bad teams though.

Looking at the list of teams who knocked them out, they've mostly gone out against NiP and VeryGames, four times each, as well as dignitas twice, and domestic rivals twice. Below is a list of the core's LAN merits since last spring:

Placing Event Prize Lost to
9-12th Denmark Copenhagen Games 2013 - France VeryGames
2nd Sweden Swedish Championship 2013 ~$6,200 Sweden NiP
2nd Sweden DreamHack Summer 2013 ~$6,200 Sweden NiP
2nd Germany Mad Catz Invitational 1,500€ France VeryGames
5-8th Romania DreamHack Bucharest 2013 - Sweden Lemondogs
4th Ukraine SLTV StarSeries VII Finals $1,500 Sweden NiP
5-6th Germany RC EMS One Fall 2013 Finals $2,000 Denmark Cph Wolves
5-8th France ESWC 2013 - France VeryGames
2nd China MSI Beat It 2013 Finals $7,000 France VeryGames
1st Sweden DreamHack Winter 2013 $100,000 -
3rd Sweden DreamHack Stockholm - Sweden NiP
5-8th Poland EMS One Katowice 2014 $10,000 Sweden LGB
5-8th Denmark Copenhagen Games 2014 500€ Denmark dignitas

As you can see above, they've been very consistent in placing around 5-8th, with the only exceptions being four team events (SLTV Finals, DH Stockholm), a two team finals event (Mad Catz), and MSI Beat It, which featured only three European teams.

That's not to say all hope is lost if fnatic don't manage to turn the ship around in Jönköping. They constantly come very close to beating the teams in the top four, but can't seem to get over the hump.

 

Struggles in close games

We documented fnatic's struggles in close games earlier in the year, and they haven't improved since. fnatic are a horrendous team in close (+-3 rounds) games, boasting a measly 7-4-17 (wins-draws-losses) record against other top teams since Wallsten joined.

To put that into perspective, fnatic have won under 30% of their close matches, while the average is naturally 50%. Winning just a few more close series could have bumped them up to top four finishes at most events.

At Copenhagen Games they crashed out in 5-8th place following not one, but two overtime defeats, of which the first map was a double overtime, at the hands of dignitas.

Wallsten chimed in on their recent losses against dignitas: "I think we have lost the close games to dignitas mostly because we became easy to read during the later stages of the games. Other than that I don't really know, I don't think they did anything out of the ordinary when beating us, it's just us not keeping calm, and not making good decisions."

A month earlier in Katowice they played two maps against LGB where the two Swedes were neck and neck, and then blew the third map 14-16 after a few key defuses by the underdogs.


pronax's fnatic have been terrible in close games 

We asked Wallsten what he thought was the weakest part of fnatic's game strategically: "I think the biggest problem we have had strategically is our ability to change our game plan during the later stage of the games. I think that's one of the reasons why we have lost a lot of close matches. So that is definitely something I am thinking about and trying to improve on."

Struggling in close matches against better teams is not new for Wallsten, who has had similar issues in his previous CS:GO teams, but then again it's common for weaker teams in general to fall short at the very end.

The best known example is probably the group stage match in last year's DreamHack Summer, where Wallsten's mixteam Publiclir.se got up 15-11 against NiP in a knock-out match and lost a practically free three-on-one.

You can't blame it all on Wallsten, but often young teams will take on the identity of their leader, and with no clear alpha dogs in fnatic, when the going gets tough the soldiers likely look to Wallsten for answers.

Still, Rönnquist doesn't think it's on Wallsten at all, but acknowledges the problem: "We have realized this as a problem and we are trying to get everyone in the team involved and giving input on what and how the opponents are playing and what we need to do to win the rounds and most importantly the matches."

 

Worries of the future?

Now, I don't think fnatic is in any rush to let go of their CS:GO team, but they did not send them to ESEA Invite Season 16 Global Finals despite of Chief Gaming Officer Patrik "cArn" Sättermon's plea for a guaranteed $3,000 for last place going through.

When asked about possible changes or the need for new blood, Jonatan "Devilwalk" Lundberg was blunt: "I take the question almost as an insult, we would never kick anyone and there is no such doubt. We feel strongly that this lineup is the one and we will keep pushing to get back into the top tier of the world."

They have also had the team bootcamp for about a month leading up to DreamHack Summer, so if fnatic still can't break the final four, will the Black and Orange organization remain content with its CS:GO team?

Lundberg isn't too worried, though: "I feel extra pressure, but mostly from myself as I obviously don't like to lose, but at the same time the losses we have had and the weak showings have been under a period of time we've been changing a lot of things in our play, trying to find what style really works best for us. Hopefully it will be ready for the DreamHack Summer. We don't think the floor will disappear from under us; we have a strong belief in ourselves and the team we are in."


Devilwalk remains confident about the future 

Wallsten replied regarding worries of their bootcamp being too long and leading to Titan-like symptoms: "I think that the one month bootcamp is more than enough to prepare for DreamHack, but whether it's good for us or not, I don't know. Bootcamping for a long period of time is not the best option for many teams, but I feel like this month is a good "test run" for us, to see if it fits us or not. After DreamHack we can look back and decide if this is something we should do again before other tournaments, or if a 1-2 week bootcamp is enough."

Queried about their ranking, Wecksell said: "I would rank us somewhere between 5-7th, but we really have to step it up and start proving it. We are far from satisfied with our ranking at this moment. Our goal is to be a consistent top 3-4 team, but the road is long and bumpy. Hopefully we reach it, soon enough."

One factor to consider is the bracket draws' effect on final placings. Added Wecksell: "I have always felt that we have been "unlucky" if you can say that in the group and playoffs drawings. We have always faced the toughest opponents for us, but at Dreamhack Winter everything was reverse, we got the best group and the best opponents for us, so in my opinion it is hard to tell if it was our form that was very very awesome at that point or not."

"I would say that during DreamHack Stockholm Invitational we were in pretty decent form, we won very easily against dignitas on de_dust2 but we played the same map against both Titan and NiP and they saw our game, which we couldn't really handle, and after that event I think things just went downfall, we started to change a lot and after a while we lost ourselves a bit I think."


fnatic have felt unlucky at times 

That doesn't mean, however, that this bunch needs a lucky bracket. Wecksell didn't feel they were lucky at the last Summer event: "At DreamHack Summer we didn't really have that much luck, first match we played Western Wolves who were pretty good at that time and after that match we got LDLC, who also were pretty good to be honest. I would say that we won due to us playing insanely well individually, combined with our energy and hunger."

"We never gave up, we always kept fighting and really played like it was the last thing we would do. Versus LDLC I think we managed to do a sick comeback and take it into overtime and then in the third map they were exhausted, while we kept playing our hearts out. So I wouldn't say that we had that much luck at DreamHack Summer, we just played amazing combined with more hunger to win than I've ever felt before."

fnatic shouldn't worry too much, though. The organization likely couldn't extract similar value out any other team they could acquire; their history is rich with Swedish teams, and this squad is one of the youngest top teams out there, with an average age of just 21 years and 174 days - they have plenty of time to gain experience, and to learn as a team.

 

The JW factor

The one factor in fnatic's success at both DreamHack Jönköping events has been MVP-worthy play by Wecksell. He was incredible at the Summer and Winter events of 2013 when they peaked as a team, and he must regain that form for fnatic to thwart NiP in Jönköping.

Wecksell added, regarding his individual play: "I have been trying to find the problem with my inconsistency but it's not really that easy to "just fix", I just need to start to play a bit smarter. I know and feel when I'm supposed to play more defensively but yet I still go aggressive instead, even when it's not really needed."


Seems JW has to be fnatic's best for the team to succeed 

"If I keep working on that and manage to get rid of that "bad habit" I think it would help a lot. Will I become one of the best players after that? We'll just have to wait and see I guess", he concluded.

Lundberg is confident the MVP-like Wecksell will return once everything else is settled: "I think overall JW has matured a lot in both his game play and attitude towards everything. What we all try to do is encourage each other all the time to be positive and eventually we will find ourselves again. our playing style has gone off its course these last couple of months and I'm sure he will get back to his monstrous performances he had at both DH summer and winter once we figure everything out."

 

How will fnatic fare at DreamHack?

fnatic packs two of the top 20 players of 2013 in their roster, a solid in-game leader in Wallsten, a strong fragger in Andreas "schneider" Lindberg, and a decent role player in Lundberg.

One of those top 20 players is Rönnquist, who says he doesn't think he became good out of nowhere; rather he simply started receiving greater recognition once fnatic became more successful.

He also said: "At the beginning of the year I told myself I was going to be one of the best players this year and really try to perform everywhere I played. I think I started receiving more credit when playing well online, too."


Earlier in the year flusha said he wouldn't shave until he hit top three in our player ranking 

Asked about the key to his success and growth as a player, he was modest: "I don't feel uncomfortable in any situation such as going to an event abroad and everything that comes with it, or even small things such as not having the correct height on the chair I'm playing on. I think I'm really good at adapting to anything and I guess that helps both inside and outside of the game."

They also have the backing of a world-class organization, Sättermon's mental coaching if needed, and the knowledge that comes from having done it all before. And, they're back to being underdogs, which is where they seem to thrive.

In an interview with HLTV.org following their DreamHack Winter victory, Lundberg said Sättermon didn't really coach them in terms of strategies and game play, but he helped calm the team down during matches by being on their voice com. That's again a possibility at DreamHack.

Player Age Rating
Sweden Robin "flusha" Rönnquist 20 1.10
Sweden Jesper "JW" Wecksell 19 1.09
Sweden Andreas "schneider" Lindberg 21 1.09
Sweden Markus "pronax" Wallsten 22 0.93
Sweden Jonatan "Devilwalk" Lundberg 23 0.90

Psychologically speaking, Jönköping must feel sort of like a safe haven for the four core players of the team who have each performed well there at the past two events, making the grand final in each.

fnatic's Lindberg quickly disputed the possibility of them feeling more comfortable at DreamHack events in Jönköping, but one must still wonder whether that's truly the case.

fnatic's clock may not be ticking, but it's more important than ever that they have a strong showing at DreamHack Summer 2014, and everything points to them having a good chance at doing just that.

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Good
2014-06-11 20:54
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World marsianho25
aint gonna win this event, im pretty sure of that.
2014-06-11 20:54
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Italy BANE.
+1 chances are pretty low
2014-06-12 02:50
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ketchup | 
Netherlands SLisKDAKJE
n10
2014-06-11 20:54
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Turkey Abdiul
n1
2014-06-11 20:55
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Europe Heavon
No.
2014-06-11 20:55
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Norway cENTRYZ
yes <3
2014-06-11 20:56
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United States g0rilla
Are you going to DHS?
2014-06-11 21:28
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no
2014-06-11 21:43
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no
2014-06-12 16:19
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no
2014-06-12 20:05
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no
2014-06-13 04:06
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Germany pikachu$wag
no
2014-06-13 07:09
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njet
2014-06-14 04:12
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Serbia dmgz0r
no!
2014-06-11 20:56
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maybe no maybe no
2014-06-11 20:57
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no
2014-06-11 20:57
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Sweden eastonx
no
2014-06-11 20:58
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Australia superior
Maybe, wouldn't put it past them, they probably got severely under estimated last dream hack though which in turn could of been their secret weapon, everyone knows what they're capable of though now so I can't see it happening again but I'm hoping they'll perform well.
2014-06-11 20:58
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truestorieswithgill.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/20130915-190532.jpg
2014-06-11 20:58
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yes
2014-06-11 20:59
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hahahahahahaha is it me or HLTV is trolling ? fnatic won because they were on a momentum. Since then they didnt win anything.
2014-06-11 20:59
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France Energy~
Who says they can't rehave that momentum at the right time and against the toughest opponents ? HLTV isn't saying they're still favorites or anything like that, lurppis just wonders if it's still possible for fnatic to surprise like they did last time, and imo, it might be unexpected, but they can do a lot of damage.
2014-06-11 21:07
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Finland KRNG--
Confirmed you're a retard.
2014-06-12 00:32
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Europe lanceV
why you jynx it :(
2014-06-11 21:00
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Netherlands RunZGO
no
2014-06-11 21:01
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No.
2014-06-11 21:01
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Sweden wokee
flusha will carry them
2014-06-11 21:02
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Finland x4^
at first I read that "pronax has been terrible in close games" and I was like wtf lurppis?
2014-06-11 21:03
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Argentina Sinnick
Maybe they can surprise, but unless cArn does the magic he could do in the past, they won't win.
2014-06-11 21:03
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if they go out from group yes, fnatic is a team that wins when other teams under perform
2014-06-11 21:09
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all team are teams that wins when their opponnent uder perfrom, retard
2014-06-12 10:18
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2014-06-12 10:58
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Other Frizaa
no ?
2014-06-12 20:07
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Sweden maskrr
yes
2014-06-11 21:10
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United States Sarevan
its is suppose to become suprise not surprise...
2014-06-11 21:11
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Latvia shevijs
best of luck guys ;)
2014-06-11 21:11
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Serbia druid93
go flusha and schneider :) <33
2014-06-11 21:12
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Ukraine petruska
Yes,ez
2014-06-11 21:16
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There's not 250k to fight for. So Fnatic is not gonna care and save their Godlike once in a lifetime performance for the next big LAN.
2014-06-11 21:16
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ofc they fcking cant lol not with this form and with this noob line-up . gg ez fnatic never surprise
2014-06-11 21:17
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Sweden darealmvp
yes, obv believe
2014-06-11 21:18
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Slovakia Dragon[E5]
flusha in 20 years : tinyurl.com/nakpzrn On a more serious note though : anything can happen on LAN.
2014-06-11 21:22
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no
2014-06-11 21:20
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I just came here to write: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
2014-06-11 21:20
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Sweden PAX=DDD
flusha + jw will be on fire at dh. ez win ez life
2014-06-11 21:21
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jw is a playa
2014-06-11 21:22
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+1
2014-06-12 13:52
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fnatic <3
2014-06-11 21:23
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No they cant! There are better teams out there.
2014-06-11 21:23
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haha, the hate in the comments. Obviously they can win, fnatic are a great team.
2014-06-11 21:26
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No
2014-06-11 21:28
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no chance for fnatic. common, they are loosing to Titan, NIP, Navi, HellRaisers, CLAN MYSTIK, THE OTHER FRENCH TEAM (FORGOT THE NAME :D happy kqly), to danish teams. fnatic isn't really at the top teams level, and they were simply lucky last year
2014-06-11 21:28
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LDLC
2014-06-11 21:43
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thanks.too lazy to search :)
2014-06-11 23:05
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no
2014-06-11 21:29
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Israel fender*
they noobs, lucky noobs.
2014-06-11 21:29
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Brazil mth^
I think everyone could surprise :>
2014-06-11 21:32
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I dont believe them anymore! rip skins :( :D
2014-06-11 21:34
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Brazil mth^
So do I, but it isnt about what we think, but about what they are able to...
2014-06-11 21:50
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Agreed.
2014-06-12 10:21
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"Earlier in the year flusha said he wouldn't shave until he hit top three in our player ranking" Well... I hope he won't step on it in the meanwhile.
2014-06-11 21:34
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Argentina gayweeb
>Jw >With girls >mfw
2014-06-11 21:35
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nope
2014-06-11 21:36
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I don't think so.
2014-06-11 21:37
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Lurppis whats the point with lastname? I rly have no clue after reading some lines who is who.
2014-06-11 21:39
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Finland ZoqFotPik
this has been discussed here before. it's a common practice. i'm with you on this though. i always get confused with the surnames. who remembers them really? img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb201403290003..
2014-06-11 21:42
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Sweden knasbollah
I know nothing to get in to.
2014-06-11 21:49
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Portugal Cyborgy
me to..i dont understand shit when puting the lastnames,i have to go back to nicknames and see their names
2014-06-12 02:00
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Finland ZoqFotPik
would be awesome. i really like this fnatic team
2014-06-11 21:40
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Syria Nave*
Good read and i hope for interviews with players in Copenhagen if possible.
2014-06-11 21:43
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Ye the event is in Sweden and it's called Dreamhack.
2014-06-12 10:13
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Syria Nave*
dude i was high
2014-06-12 14:08
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That's an honest answer my man. I accept.
2014-06-13 10:11
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Yes, im really lookin forward for the interviews aswell!
2014-06-12 10:22
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France -huhu-
hum nop
2014-06-11 21:51
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World nutella1
they cant win but top 3 is possible.
2014-06-11 21:56
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Yugoslavia SugarRayLabia
Good luck guys! Devilwalk you will always be the Counter-Strike Musketeer in my eyes!! En garde, mon ami!
2014-06-11 21:57
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Portugal STRONJS
not even close
2014-06-11 22:00
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Denmark qwedsa
fnatic will surprise and remove themselves in the group stages.
2014-06-11 22:02
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Sweden xp3cT
2014-06-11 22:06
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they cant win close matches anymore cos they rely to their stars to step up too much, havent seen the whole team steppin up lately
2014-06-11 22:10
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United States stratmatt
They only surprised last time cause of ghosting. No wonder they havnt done anything since!
2014-06-11 22:11
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Korea Lustboy
gl fnatic
2014-06-11 22:11
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Portugal zepicolho
yep dewilvalk worst pro player
2014-06-11 22:11
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no
2014-06-11 22:12
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gl fnatic! i will try 2 watch every fnatic game but the wc will be more important :D
2014-06-11 22:30
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Brazil mth^
+1
2014-06-11 22:37
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NO
2014-06-11 22:35
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Denmark aNzooo
jw best
2014-06-11 22:37
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no
2014-06-11 23:12
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ofc no
2014-06-11 23:12
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#93
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Luxembourg crawleroz
fnatic is a lan team so yes
2014-06-11 23:13
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Can they win? Of course. Will they win? Highly doubt that they will.
2014-06-11 23:16
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#95
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Albania huehueheu420
are you wanna jwpig?
2014-06-11 23:17
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#98
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Albania huehueheu420
sorry me are no good english
2014-06-11 23:23
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#96
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Azerbaijan Talley
ofc, they have potential and confidence.
2014-06-11 23:17
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#97
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Sweden sebb7
they've been very unlucky, if you can call it that, imo. the dignitas losses were really wierd ^^
2014-06-11 23:18
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#99
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Other skaven
Good question Watson.
2014-06-11 23:38
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#100
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Albania huehueheu420
are you wanna Watson
2014-06-11 23:41
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#101
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Serbia IvanSBC
They have chances to win this,they are bootcamping ....
2014-06-11 23:43
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#145
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Czech Republic HANYMA
Lol omfg and write me team pls who is not bootcamping on dreamhack......
2014-06-12 08:30
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#102
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mzinho | 
World clipse
fnatic gonna disband if they dont perform well
2014-06-11 23:51
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#103
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World 1663
yes go fnatic!
2014-06-11 23:55
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#104
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Pakistan zeeky
Not Possible JW Practicing Too much MAG-7 Now a days which is not usefull in open maps like mirage dd2 So and any way they dont have any chance!:P
2014-06-12 00:03
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#107
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World ba$e
in your dreams. no.
2014-06-12 00:17
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#108
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Netherlands Drush
Lurppis first off all nice read, the only thing I didn't like are the inline italic quotes. For some reason it just doesn't read very well. Might be just me..
2014-06-12 00:19
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#112
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Netherlands CcARTii
fnatic have great potential, I'm hoping for a good result for them even tho I'm not particularly a fnatic fan. I'd just hate to see roster changes happening or the org dropping them since there is so much potential.
2014-06-12 01:11
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#114
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NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel
VP vs NiP final confirmed.
2014-06-12 01:12
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#115
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Sweden binz
yes they can if jw and flusha playing good
2014-06-12 01:15
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#118
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Japan mameloff
I BELIEVE FNATIC!! imgur.com/ZtfJhRW
2014-06-12 01:47
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nope
2014-06-12 01:52
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good article
2014-06-12 02:14
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fnatic can surprise , if cArn help them with strats in the grand final again ..
2014-06-12 02:18
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They're good and I always root for the underdogs, but I don't see it happening.
2014-06-12 02:32
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#127
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Vietnam Ladlpslr
Lol with a terrible performance of pronax, devilwalk said they would never kick anyone Ofc he cant, because he sucks too -_-
2014-06-12 03:02
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#129
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Australia bwaybwoy
Best title is, Could NiP surprise throw again at DH?
2014-06-12 03:36
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#130
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Sweden pyth
Indeed they will!
2014-06-12 03:39
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#218
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Norway cago
I think so too!
2014-06-13 00:27
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#133
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World j.hax
I think they will perform well in dreamhack... i dont think in spite of loosing so many tournaments ; they always been in top 5.. so i dont think thats too bad. but i personally feel fnatic will crush every team..
2014-06-12 03:53
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#135
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United Kingdom Maikele /L/
no
2014-06-12 05:20
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#136
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United States iamspuds
I hope to see them preform well in Dreamhack, Its been a bit upsetting to see them on a downfall since DHW
2014-06-12 05:21
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Remove devilwalk Add anybody that can get frags
2014-06-12 05:28
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#138
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Netherlands amplifieR
another 5-8th
2014-06-12 05:32
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#139
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Brazil hugoooo
No.
2014-06-12 05:53
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#142
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Lithuania aMii
"As you can see above, they've been very consistent" - Yup, they played consistently shit.
2014-06-12 06:25
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#146
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Poland metal_cs
shout up and take my skins !
2014-06-12 08:52
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#148
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Norway Mambungo
No, but they can moneyfuck anyone xD
2014-06-12 08:59
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#150
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Germany redemptionr3
just no
2014-06-12 09:14
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#151
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Australia ethicsw0w
Not a chance, sorry :/
2014-06-12 09:42
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Hope theyll make a surprise :)
2014-06-12 10:23
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#159
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cyx | 
Bangladesh Stoffi
Imo they have to do well at his event, like 3-4 place min. Otherwise rooster change is inc. Carn cant keep saying that stability with the same lineup s the key to succes.
2014-06-12 11:49
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#160
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Russia vladeggg
yes
2014-06-12 11:51
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#161
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World native69
lmao @ lolpis and his retarded predictions and fanboism.
2014-06-12 12:18
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#164
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Snax | 
Poland Dreamer [RZ]
fnatic TOP...5?
2014-06-12 13:06
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#170
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Boombl4 | 
United Kingdom @bloodR1g
'Earlier in the year flusha said he wouldn't shave until he hit top three in our player ranking.' - okay...
2014-06-12 14:29
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#176
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Lithuania mantispantis
NO
2014-06-12 15:02
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#177
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Sweden RHOE
Fnatic will win!
2014-06-12 15:29
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#187
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Estonia rYm
THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS! Jonatan "Devilwalk" Lundberg 23 0.90
2014-06-12 16:34
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#190
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Jordan radaideh
nice cant wait :D
2014-06-12 16:45
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#195
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Netherlands xdanny
I always have known pronax sucked hard, since the fail of him at inferno at dreamhack 2011 i think. I laughed so hard i almost cried about it.
2014-06-12 17:56
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#198
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Finland teppo123
quite young players, lack of experience might result to losing close games against more experienced teams like virtus and nip
2014-06-12 18:53
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#199
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Italy favoxhille
i wish them a good tournament even it will be very hard to going through such good teams
2014-06-12 19:02
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#200
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Poland dyzio65
no, fnatic to low! 4-8 meaby
2014-06-12 19:11
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They can!
2014-06-12 19:38
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#205
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B1ad3 | 
United Kingdom Umeroff
DHS to Ukraine! Na`Vi / Marik-Raisers!!!
2014-06-12 19:59
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#219
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China ntraksharp
jw letsgo
2014-06-13 03:04
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#223
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Portugal LOCO DICE
NO
2014-06-13 10:36
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#224
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Europe iNfiNiTy2k6
we'll see
2014-06-13 10:42
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#225
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Poland rockazz
no
2014-06-13 11:43
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#226
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Sweden stonecold_a
yes
2014-06-13 17:57
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#227
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Luxembourg BenQure
No and never, ezpz
2014-06-13 22:19
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Yup ,surprised us :D
2014-06-14 21:20
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SO much for the SURPRISE LOL. SK BE LIKE : SURPRISE MODAFUKKA (Dexter) ! :D
2014-06-14 23:45
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#232
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Europe holivud
Yes, fnatic gave suprise, bad suprise.
2014-06-14 23:46
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Sure they can!
2014-06-14 23:48
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sure... he did it. :D
2014-06-14 23:49
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#236
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Australia ethicsw0w
lol
2014-06-17 02:52
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