Epsilon to DH Winter with fxy0

18-10-2014 13:48

Epsilon captain Robin "GMX" Stahmer has announced that the team will attend DreamHack Winter with Joey "fxy0" Schlosser as a stand-in.

Earlier in the week, Epsilon made headlines when they brought in Christophe "⁠SIXER⁠" Xia, one of the most accomplished players in the French Counter-Strike scene, as a replacement for Joey "⁠fxy0⁠" Schlosser.

Such a move left Epsilon with just two players from the side who secured a top-eight finish at ESL One Cologne, which, according to Valve's rules for major tournaments, would revoke the team's invite to DreamHack Winter next month.

fxy0 to attend DH Winter with Epsilon

However, in order to meet the criterion of a minimum of three players from the previous major, Epsilon will be fielding fxy0 as a stand-in for SIXER at the Swedish event.

Epsilon are currently in Kiev for the SLTV StarSeries finals, which they are attending with Engin "⁠MAJ3R⁠" Küpeli as a stand-in.

The French team will take part in DH Winter's $250,000 tournament with:

Adil "⁠ScreaM⁠" Benrlitom
Robin "⁠GMX⁠" Stahmer
Kevin "⁠Uzzziii⁠" Vernel
Gordon "⁠Sf⁠" Giry
Joey "⁠fxy0⁠" Schlosser (stand-in)

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2014-10-18 13:48

ROFL

2014-10-18 13:49

weird

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its not that weird :) being a pro player could be like any ordinary employee , even if u get fired u have a month of work or more depending on the contract. its closer to real life i would say..

2014-10-18 14:33

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Normal practice though is the people who are fired are not asked to be on the job in that period, because it creates a really bad environment. Or, that is the common practice in Denmark.

2014-10-18 15:47

lol

2014-10-18 13:50

wait what is he even gonna do his best lol

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Lol, why wouldn't he. He could get picked up by a team if he does well and there's $$$ on the line, it's not like we are expecting him to do something sur-human and there is a reward.

2014-10-18 13:53

for sure he is going to do, alot of publicity

2014-10-18 13:59

Not only that. 250k tournament :)

2014-10-18 15:12

He sure will. But their best won't be the same anymore

2014-10-18 14:37

Yeah, it's not like they can rack up a shit ton of money or something like that

2014-10-18 15:03

2014-10-18 13:51

Hahahahaha what a joke

wahahahahaaa

i hope he wont give them a title, they dont deserve it

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Title? Would be good if they at least managed to get out of the groups ahah

2014-10-18 13:54

Why do they not deserve it?

2014-10-18 14:07

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You dont kick a player so you can call him in as standin on major tournament dude, its wrong.

2014-10-18 14:32

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Even if they kicked him because he's acting like a dick? n1 logic.

2014-10-18 15:34

fxyo's free to refuse, that means there was an agreement reached between him and Epsilon, I see nothing wrong with that. Everyone is winning in this deal, Epsilon get to participate in a major, and fxyo has two opportunities: the first is to make some money and get visibility in order to join another team in the future, the second is to maybe change Epsilon's mind by questioning himself and proving them that they made a bad choice kicking him. If all of these guys found an agreement everything is fine, and no one is to blame.

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there is no posibily he refuses no fxyo no dhwinter invite :D thats the problem

2014-10-18 16:13

So? fxyo could still have refused to join. But as I said, this agreement is beneficial to everyone, that's why he didn't refuse, but he could have if he wanted to. There's no particular wrong move from anyone in this news.

2014-10-18 16:21

Agreed.

2014-10-19 04:35

What does it matter that he got kicked. It might have been a decision from both sides to part ways. It is not like they hate eachother and fxy0 was free to decline to offer to go.

2014-10-18 16:12

lolz

hahahahaha n1 epsilon

2014-10-18 13:52

what a train wreck of a team

LOL

looooool fxy0 should just fucking leave them and make them not go hahaha

why? iirc even last place gets you a few thousand dollars?

2014-10-18 13:55

few thousand XDD ok

2014-10-18 13:57

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sticker money is pretty much

Exactly, just being there gets you a few grand for sure.

2014-10-18 14:19

What's wrong with $2000?

2014-10-18 14:13

all finishes get something afaik .. so a few thousand dollars is better than a kick in the teeth.

2014-10-18 14:14

This team is a joke :d -fxy0 -pm -/+sf -/+maj3r +sixer -sixer +fxy0 -fxy0 +sixer -sf +maj3r

2014-10-18 14:02

fxy0 ScreaM SIXER MAJ3R Uzziii

2014-10-18 14:18

WTF JUST I READ

i dont understand anything

expected...

omg what a fail

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH

FailFish

2014-10-18 13:58

lol?

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gl guys

epsilony0 gogo

i dont even

2014-10-18 14:00

Surely fxy will be smart enough put aside the fact that his (soon-to-be-former)teammates want him kicked from the team - for a chance at $100k.

wouldnt suprise me if they offered him some money just to play with em (% of the sticker money :P)

2014-10-18 14:05

Kappa

youtube.com/watch?v=ZaStUdbv6nI

2014-10-18 14:01

haha

hahaha omg

fxyo!

yay

2014-10-31 11:42

hahahaha....what i want is fxy0 to topfrag every game and then they will want him back :D

2014-10-18 14:04

doesn't matter how much someone top frags a game. if people don't enjoy playing with them and they rage and cause bad atmosphere then that isn't good for the team.

2014-10-18 14:35

He already was top fragging.

2014-10-20 03:16

LOL And then: -fxy0 +SIXER -Uzzziii +MAJ3R

lol what?

2014-10-18 14:08

wtf? fxyo will throw so hard xD

2014-10-18 14:11

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Yeah. Not like he'll get more money with better results or anything.

2014-10-18 14:12

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doenst matter how good fxyo plays, epsilon wouldnt make it past groupstage anyway

2014-10-18 14:22

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It takes just 1 map win against the second best team in the group. One guy CAN carry hard enough for a fluke map win. Edit : Implying these results : Game 1 : loss to 2nd best team (likely result) Game 2 : Beat the feeder team of the group (easy) Game 3 : Beat the 2nd best team of the group (upset)

2014-10-18 14:27

Ahh, 1 map is not enough :-D No matches is gonna be easy and they need to win 2 matches no matter what to go through.

Just edited to make my point clearer.

2014-10-18 14:28

Well tell me 2 teams from the last 3 majors which you consider "feeder"

2014-10-18 14:41

How about Wolf and VoxE?

2014-10-18 14:43

Wolf yes for sure, vox I'm not too sure, they are a decent team I believe :-). They are the only teams which you can say that about, and Vox is only a walkover for the top8 teams imo

2014-10-18 14:47

LC were really not on form as well

2014-10-18 15:39

Epsilon w/o Shox can EASILY lose to a "feeder" like vox. Vox almost beat LDLC at Katowice, which was a much better lineup than current Epsilon.

2014-10-18 14:56

They didn't almost beat LDLC if you actually watched the game. The score was close only because LDLC were not taking the game seriously with all half-buys and smokeless rushes. This group of people has beaten NiP, HR, CPHW and LDLC in the past month alone. Vox E has beaten exactly zero mid tier european teams till date. I don't know why Vox are so overrated and Epsilon so underrated. Epsilon will most likely crash out of group stages but they will definitely not lose to the likes of Vox.

2014-10-18 15:02

I watched the game entirely, Vox played fantastically on T side and if LDLC "didn't take their first game in the biggest tournament of the year seriously" that's their own fault. Epsilon won't get out of groups, they'll finish 3rd most likely - 10% chance of 1st/2nd. Vox aren't overrated, people just expect them to get out of Australian qualifiers because they're the best team down under. Epsilon aren't underrated either, you can expect them to put up a fight, but ScreaM isn't how he used to be, the rest of the team are tier 3 players, hence why they're like 3 wins 15 losses or whatever in FACEIT.

2014-10-18 15:20

Team stand-in.

2014-10-18 14:16

haha lmao well that's genius

EPSILON this is a mess hahaha

2014-10-18 14:21

Have they even managed to play two matches in a row using the same line-up yet? Such a watse of a load of decent players when they keep swapping around like this...

2014-10-18 14:24

kick and go DHW

Hahahah. fxy0 please don't help them to go to DH so easily.

2014-10-18 14:25

lol hahahahahahaha

wtf..

wtf.. but at the same time the only way for them to make it out of groups would be to have both scream & fxy0 on absolute fire because I doubt the other 3 will do anything good..

2014-10-18 14:31

Lol some guys here are complete idiots. Honour > money.

The fuck is this? Fxy0 just needs to fucking throw all the games hes going to just to piss Epsilon off rofl

Money hungry idiots as well

2014-10-18 14:36

lol awkward

awks

this team is such a joke with the stand-ins and changes fml. after dhw just get rid of sf permanently and take on maj3r and six3r. team might be good if they keep that roster on a permanent basis

2014-10-18 14:39

roflmao

2014-10-18 14:40

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA awkwaaaaaaaard

Prob said he's sorry and shit, i think epsilon will lose fast becouse they don't want to play with him or fxyo will tryhard so he could stay in team after DH.

2014-10-18 14:42

awkward

awkward af

2014-10-18 14:45

fxy0 could have fucked them all over. don't see why he didn't.

2014-10-18 14:49

would you rather "fuck over" ex teammates or take, lets say, ~$15k from stickers + however much they get in prize money?

2014-10-18 16:17

They need fxy0 if they want to have a confirmed place at DHW. Expected. Will get kicked after DHW.

2014-10-18 14:54

So -fxy0 then +fxy0 as stand-in and we still dont know if Sf is playing or not JOKELON

2014-10-18 14:55

Did you read the small article at all? It explains why they want fxy0 to play and tells you the 5 people who will play for the team at DHW. Lol.

2014-10-18 15:01

So they didn't know that before they cut him?

2014-10-18 15:52

Yeah, they did, put it this way: He's kicked from the team but he's playing with them for DHW. Hence the "fxy0 stand in"

2014-10-18 16:07

And that seems normal to you?

2014-10-18 17:45

Given how CS tournaments work, absolutely. You get 2k just for attending, even if you lose every match, and obviously more for progressing, not to mention the crazy amount the Epsilon organisation and (possibly the players) depending on how the contract operates, make from stickers. It gives them a free ticket into DHW, and given how poorly Epsilon have been playing, it seems legit - failed to qualify for ESWC and are like 3 wins 15 losses in FACEIT.

2014-10-18 18:25

I'm not talking about the decision to let him come in as a standin about kicking him in the first place? They destroyed his morale, they could have kicked him after the tournament ended maybe then they could have qualify for the next stage.

2014-10-18 18:37

Yeah, I can see what you're saying, and none of us but Epsilon know I guess. I suppose because there's still a fair few matches before DHW - SLTV today for instance, Epsilon thought they would play better without fxy0, who I believe used to get angry mid game at his teammates from when I was listening to Solek talk to him a few days ago. His morale won't be crushed anyway, it's a third tier French team and he can, in the future do better. He's got a month to prepare and will try his ultimate best considering the scale of the tourny.

2014-10-18 18:46

MONEYMONEYMONEY

Lol, what a joke... Epsilon know that they have no chance to qualify to this tournament thats why they will go with fxy0... Oh man, that's nasty lol

2014-10-18 15:04

so sf will play with them in the future or not??

2014-10-18 15:21

money of what ? even if ScreaM and/or fxy0 make an out of this world performance, they still wont win any money at all since they're not ready and prepared ... really ? asking him to come again like that to be a 'stand-in' after kicking him ... men what a nerve. #74 honour > 'hypothetic miracle' money

2014-10-18 15:25

simply having a team sticker makes more money than you think

2014-10-18 16:15

mh i heard stickers value back to organisation could be higher than winning the lan :/

2014-10-18 16:23

true but the whole roster for the organisation changed, fans supporting specific players would jump to other team like LDLC and Titan. I dont think Epsilon's stickers will sell as much as the other french teams.

2014-10-19 05:45

all in fxy0 walking off stage Kappa

2014-10-18 15:28

2014-10-18 15:36

I guess he got $ compensation ^^

So they need a minimum of three players who reached the playoffs in cologne. Sf and GMX played for epsilon and uzzii for ldlc, right? Why do they need fxyo then?

2014-10-18 16:19

they need three players from the same team from the last major

2014-10-18 16:38

Ofcourse!

2014-10-18 17:21

You're toxic. GTFO. Hey man, we need you to play with us at DHW.

2014-10-18 17:17

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Epsilon : "we don't like to play with u but dat money doe" fxy0 : "dat money doe indeed my frients" uzzzii : "get money, f*ck b*tches"

2014-10-18 17:19

lel

2014-10-18 18:48

Haha, yours is better. Cheers.

2014-10-19 00:07

lel. I'm sure they are still friends with him anyways, I guess hes a good guy outside since he has been hanging out with gmx for a very long time, it's just that he can't control his anger in game sometimes. since shox & kio left , epsilon were losing almost all their matches and he just lost it.

2014-10-19 00:23

Never a reason to rage. Sometimes, I'll drop a 30 bomb but still lose a game (I can say to the other 4 guys that they are useless, but i sure can't win without them, so help them to help you). Be the leader you want your teammates to follow. The rage and the flame are tools of a weak mind. EDIT: So if EPSILON has to play with fxy0 does this mean Titan are out. They only have ex6 and kennyS from the Cologne squad.

2014-10-19 00:45

Exactly, that's why they kick him every time but he just can't stop it, I could already feel his anger when epsilon went downhill and when he went agressive in such a retarded way in almost every round of a match with his cz/awp. He thought that if he didn't make all those entry kills, his team would never win.. he couldn't trust his teammates anymore. It's a shame because he could have maybe go in better team someday, but things will only go worse imo. he should really work on his anger issues. edit response : no they have maniac, apex and kqly which have all passed groups in cologne

2014-10-19 00:54

no noone alrdy announced loses the slot, Epsilon already had been invited.

2014-10-19 14:29

But Maniac, Apex and KQLY weren't a part of titan squad that went top 8. That doesn't make any difference?

2014-10-19 14:54

funny baguettes

2014-10-18 17:35

hahaha kinda obvious it would happen. epsilon = dumb

2014-10-18 18:34

LOL Epsilon

2014-10-18 19:54

Epsilon ples

2014-10-18 20:39

That's gonna be awkward as fuck: "Look Joey, we know we kicked you for being a prick and all, but we need you on our team so we get a for sure spot and DHW. So we'll let you play with us again." If I were fxy0 I would've told em to go fuck off. I know fxy0's toxic, but honestly, you don't just kick someone and then go beg them to come back because you need em to qualify.

2014-10-19 00:18

was most likely already agreed previously, they qualified for DH winter as the team so they will attend with it. Also the fact they have 1 week bootcamps means fxy0 will immediately gell back in the team.

2014-10-19 14:27