LGB clarify Mystic accusations

LGB eSports have issued a statement rejecting that Kristoffer "Mystic" Michelsen has been handed a VAC ban in the past.

Kristoffer "⁠Mystic⁠" Michelsen has been filling in for LGB for over a month now as the team had to find a player to replace Håvard "⁠rain⁠" Nygaard, who had garnered interest from Kinguin.

The Norwegian talent, formerly of partyastronauts, was virtually unknown outside of his homeland when he was picked up by LGB, but he has been able to prove his doubters wrong with a string of convincing displays against top European sides.

However, doubts about the player were recently raised on a forum thread on HLTV.org as he was linked with a Steam account that has been VAC banned since the start of 2014.

As a result, LGB decided to conduct an investigation into the matter and contacted Valve, which ended up clearing Mystic of any wrongdoing as the player "is not associated with the account's VAC ban".

"We have been in contact with Valve in order to get an overview of the rumors surrounding Mystic prior to signing him," Hicham Chahine, CEO of Diglife, said in a statement.

"The investigation carried out shows that the player has been subject to false accusations, and is not linked to the account.

"We will always do our outmost to ensure that all our players hold the highest professional standard, and we would not have signed Mystic if the findings of Valve proved the rumors correct.

"We have done everything in our power to make sure the player is “clean”, working with the publisher of CS:GO.

"At last, we kindly request media and the community to show caution when writing about rumors as these can potentially be damaging to players and organizations in the events of them not being correct."

LGB's statement has all but confirmed that Mystic is on the verge of signing a permanent deal with the organisation. Preben "⁠prb⁠" Gammelsæter has also been playing as a substitute, but his situation remains unclear.

Related video:

Norway Preben 'prb' Gammelsæter
Preben 'prb' Gammelsæter
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
136
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.67
Norway Kristoffer 'Mystic' Michelsen
Kristoffer 'Mystic' Michelsen
Age:
19
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
37
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.74
Norway Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
113
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
#1
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nice
2015-05-19 17:34
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This just shows you that no one likes cheaters..
2015-05-19 18:12
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k
2015-05-19 17:35
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k
2015-05-19 17:36
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wowowow expected n1
2015-05-19 17:36
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expected
2015-05-19 17:36
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Told you.
2015-05-19 17:36
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#27
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dont remember
2015-05-19 17:39
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HLTV rekt
2015-05-19 17:36
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#162
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rekt idd
2015-05-19 19:50
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:)
2015-05-19 17:36
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joke
2015-05-19 17:36
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Oh another witchhunt which was incorrect, how surprising.
2015-05-19 17:36
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+1
2015-05-19 17:37
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#freekukli
2015-05-19 17:40
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#154
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#freeemilio&sf too. We need all the cheaters back
2015-05-19 19:15
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+1
2015-05-19 18:37
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Because they hack in their unbanned account with 99999999999$ cheats
2015-05-20 04:55
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gl Mystic
2015-05-19 17:37
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:O
2015-05-19 17:37
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HI MOM
2015-05-19 17:37
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"The player is not associated with the account, and therefore no cheating actions" Really? hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=790736#r922.. hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=790736#r922.. hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=790736#r913.. etc etc.. check this thread hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=790736
2015-05-19 17:37
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2015-05-19 17:38
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#41
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When Valve themselves said that Mystic has no fucking connection to that account, then it's true, are you also one who has a conspiracy theory on 9/11 or what ?
2015-05-19 17:43
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"Valve themselves said"?? You mean LGB said that Valve said? Really clever by them, they know Valve cant be arsed to deny that. As they never give any information about vac'd players, why would they do now?
2015-05-19 17:50
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#159
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lol tht was old time...now the devs of csgo have the authority on VACs so now the rules have changed! Thanks but what a fail from ur side
2015-05-19 19:38
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This is exactly the shit that one of the Gplay guys tried to say about v1c7or and dr3am3r since they got vacced; he said they went to valve and valve unbanned them. Like Valve is gonna go and unban some small-time Bulgarians.
2015-05-20 16:02
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You're clearly watching a lot of TV mass-media reports and shit, right?
2015-05-19 18:23
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how much?
2015-05-19 17:40
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Valve have made it official, they have a lot more investigating power at their disposal than the community has, and they have the legitimacy.
2015-05-19 17:47
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No. The agency interested in signing Mystic as a player has SAID valve made it official, however I am still unconvinced valve has actually said anything at all regarding mystic.
2015-05-19 17:49
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+1, finally some1 to figure that. Valve never give any info about vac banned players...
2015-05-19 17:51
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Publicly, no they don't. And they didn't this time either. See #62 for the rest.
2015-05-19 17:58
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Your train on thought is based on blind belief that org like LGB wouldn't say bullshit (that they know valve will not deny) to avoid bad reputation. You clearly dont know shit about the world we live in.
2015-05-19 18:06
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#127
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World Antifrag
It's certainly a belief, but certainly not blind. An organization like Valve cares about their reputation, and they certainly don't want to be seen as supporting potential cheaters. And as anyone, they don't want people to spread lies about what they did or didn't do. If LGB, an organization which is well-known and has good visibility in the community, releases an official statement stating that they worked with Valve to investigate on a player, they expose themselves greatly by bullshitting it: First, Valve will deny them (because they would have spoken on their behalf AND given wrong information about them), and second, the community will just smash them hard, accusing them of protecting cheaters. It would both crush their reputation as an organization and also reduce their chances of actually working with Valve in the future. As a result, less players will be interested by their offers, less sponsors will want to be associated with them, etc, etc... If they say that they worked with Valve to do something, and they say it in an official statement, it means that Valve agreed to it being released. So unless Valve releases a statement in the following hours/days denying LGB's claims, we can assume it's legit. It's cute that you seem to think that anyone disagreeing with your opinion "doesn't know shit about the world we live in", but it's just a way for you to make your position appear stronger and mine weaker, it's not an argument. Unfortunately, trying to discredit a person doesn't change anything to his/her arguments.
2015-05-19 18:30
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All this wall of text is based on what should happen in the perfect world, land of milk, honey, unicorns and rainbows. I am not saying that LGB is full of shit, rather pointing out that their statement on someones behalf has zero value.
2015-05-19 18:43
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#144
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It has value if it's released officially, publicly, and is not denied by the quoted organization. And this whole unicorn thing is yet another way of devaluing arguments without presenting counter-arguments. I could very well say that your reasoning is based on what should happen in the worst possible world, land of conspiracy, liars, douche-bags and illuminatis. But I won't, because it doesn't bring anything in terms of arguments, it just brings a distorted world out of nowhere, claiming that it's the one you have in mind, which would make people assume that your arguments must be distorted accordingly.
2015-05-19 18:54
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Oh god, i really didnt want to go so deep into this, but there you go: Original statement was not divided by paragraphs. Look at first and second sentence. It is so cleverly written. First one says that: "We have been in contact with Valve in order to get an overview of the rumors surrounding Mystic prior to signing him," It doesnt say that they got any valid information from them. I could send an e-mail to valve saying that i want a dragon lore, get a reply that its not gonna happen, and could call that a contact. The other sentence: "The investigation carried out shows that the player has been subject to false accusations, and is not linked to the account". It doesn't say that it is Valve's investigation. Might aswell be their. There is no corelation between first and second sentence. It is written in a way, to make everyone think there is. It is not a how you write a proper statement, unless you try to sell bullshit. Something we see alot in politics these days.
2015-05-19 20:30
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Now THAT is an argument. It's true that it's not explicitly written "After a thorough investigation, Valve considers Mystic a legit player", but in my opinion it's more due to the fact that Valve doesn't want LGB to reveal the content of their exchanges, and doesn't want to be claimed responsible for the clearance (probably because they have no way to be 100% sure). "we would not have signed Mystic if the findings of Valve proved the rumors correct." It's explicitly written "findings", which means that there must have been an investigation from them. I think that they made their own investigation, that Valve made their own investigation, then Valve gave them the informations they had but forbid them to reveal their content in any way. There's always the possibility that LGB COULD be trying a PR move to lift suspicions without having actually cleared them out. But we have no way to confirm or disprove that, and the evidence supporting this claim is poor In my opinion, the likeliness of this happening while quoting Valve in the statement is low, because it involves more risks for the organization than the ones they take keeping a player suspected by the community (who isn't the first, far from it).
2015-05-19 21:53
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"trying to discredit a person doesn't change anything to his/her arguments."
2015-05-19 18:56
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?
2015-05-19 18:56
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So u think that they're supposed to hang around hltv all day giving info to anyone asking for it? Wake up, ofc they are in talks with the organizations behind the scenes...
2015-05-19 18:14
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What does hltv have to do with this?
2015-05-19 18:20
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#121
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I could have said fucking aftonbladet instead of hltv. The point is that them not giving the info to the public doesn't mean that they're not in talks with the organizations and people somehow relevant to the competitive scene.
2015-05-19 18:26
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2015-05-19 18:18
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That is a statement of the player who was VAC banned, but is not anymore. Anyone could visit his steam profile and see that he is honest about this. While what we got here is some org claiming that valve exclusively for them, released some private info (which we know they never do). Also valve is that kind of company which cant be asred to disclaim everything that people write about them on the internet (which LGB knows very well), so we probably won't see any OFFICIAL statement from them either confirming or denying this.
2015-05-19 18:30
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#153
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Except they do talk to pros, and orgs... Stop smoking bath salts m8
2015-05-19 19:12
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#62
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World Antifrag
An organization like this wouldn't put words in behalf of Valve, otherwise they would be denied by them straight away. As long as Valve doesn't deny this, they make it official.
2015-05-19 17:55
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It doesnt make any sense to lie about it. DIGLIFE which is the company, also owns NIP and CPH.
2015-05-19 22:35
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Why do you try so fucking hard? mad cuz bad?
2015-05-19 18:45
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Norway HeFFa528
fakeflagger spotted
2015-05-20 21:45
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North America Hallway
Mystic bestic
2015-05-19 17:37
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Portugal dracø
Better safe than sorry. Well done LGB. Gl Mystic.
2015-05-19 17:37
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lgb putting hltv kids on blast !
2015-05-19 17:38
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Honestly how is he not linked to the account? So one guy with the name Kristoffer "Mystic" Michelsen gets VACed at the same time as another Kristoffer "Mystic" Michelsen makes a new account. This is ridicoulus :D
2015-05-19 17:38
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indeed it is.. there is plenty evidence in this thread hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=790736
2015-05-19 17:40
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Yes, I know about all the evidence. I knew that VALVE was a bunch of clowns before this, but if he really is allowed to play when I'm not, faith in humanity is lost.
2015-05-19 17:41
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Learn2playm8.
2015-05-19 17:47
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I am and will always be better then any member of the trashteam this newspost is about :)
2015-05-19 17:48
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Europe Pear_
Haha cocky much? Every LGB player is better than you
2015-05-19 17:56
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Denmark Kevzz
To bad you can't prove it i guess :/
2015-05-19 17:58
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Too bad everything is about who got the best contacts, matHEND got unbanned cuz of NiaK and you got unbanned cuz you are owned by NiP, too bad your team will always be shit you fat idiot
2015-05-19 17:59
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#73
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"Best Contacts" Reaching out to Valve, is the best contact! Atleast, they can attend Majors, and i dont mind being a Fat Idiot.
2015-05-19 18:01
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Yea, cuz you think they care about everyone or even answer them? Then you are very naive :P
2015-05-19 18:02
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#77
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I don't think im that Naive.
2015-05-19 18:03
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You are that naive and even more retarded I suppose
2015-05-19 18:04
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Denmark Kevzz
I can be everything you want me to be.
2015-05-19 18:07
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can u be my private dancer
2015-05-19 18:49
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#147
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Denmark Kevzz
Sure.
2015-05-19 18:59
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#82
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Glad you got banned, we have enough toxic shit kids who think they are good, in the scene.
2015-05-19 18:04
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#105
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ur just salty cuz ur not relevant enough for valve to have any interest in u
2015-05-19 18:17
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Im salty because its plain unfair.
2015-05-19 18:20
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#210
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World falleri
Maybe you should go to see a gynecologist. Can not be good to be that butthurt.
2015-05-20 16:38
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#104
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Take a break from ur basement dude .
2015-05-19 18:16
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#129
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Hahaha you are the sadest fuck i have ever seen on this site. have fun on vacation cheater
2015-05-19 18:30
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the thing is that you actually cheated while mystic didnt, doesnt matter whether it was in matchmaking or not. get rekt whiner kid
2015-05-19 17:50
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knew it
2015-05-19 17:38
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get rekt clowns
2015-05-19 17:38
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pls no prb, hes not skilled enough. Has the potential to be another "hunden" in the community. You dont want that.
2015-05-19 17:38
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good luck
2015-05-19 17:39
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#28
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Russia k0patych
its a conspiracy, dont blve. LGB clarify Mystic accusations - illuminati confirmed
2015-05-19 17:39
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;o
2015-05-19 17:40
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#33
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mystic was vac ban on his previous account, so gtfo
2015-05-19 17:40
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#35
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Europe selbi
not cheating. gg wp
2015-05-19 17:41
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#39
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inb4 kukli getting unbanned
2015-05-19 17:43
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#40
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Europe auguR
get rekt hltv snitches
2015-05-19 17:43
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#43
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India LazyLord
Hmmm
2015-05-19 17:46
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#44
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Denmark wubz
HLTV-autists fail again
2015-05-19 17:46
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#47
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nice, now the haters (rivals in local scene) can go fuck themselves or at least go cry somewhere else. maybe visit your mom get a hug or something
2015-05-19 17:47
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lol this guy comes out of nowhere and owns everyone. We have seen such stories before. I don't think he's legit.sry
2015-05-19 17:49
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Fact is that he has been dominating the norwegian scene for quite a while. He has also played with both rain and mystic in partyastronauts before. He is no stranger to anyone who follows the norwegian scene and tbh most norwegians actually expect him to dominate for LGB.
2015-05-19 17:55
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#55
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Norway ultra:D
Hmm.. Did he not get hacked/sold his account or something? (Only according to himself and his mates Oo). This statement make it sound like the account never was his ("The player is not associated with the account"). I know for a fact that he played in teams named habbobling and infurity, which the 2year old screenshots from the VAC banned account clearly depicts. You may for instance check the infurity lineup from ByLAN 2013 here: hltv.org/blog/7232-norwegian-eswc-playof.. (For the lazy folks, mystic is part of it) Something is fishy here. Oh well, best of luck! :)
2015-05-19 17:51
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#61
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World S1mplelife
Rubino about mystic 2013 "Mystic also sold his account due something "rage" after BYLAN (eswc Qualifier here in norway) After that he thought he wanted to quit so i think he sold his account.. " hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=476562#r469.. also about the eswc qualifier: hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=790736#r922..
2015-05-19 17:54
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#71
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"The player is not associated with the accounts VAC BAN" Aka. Mystic was not a part of the BAN it self and had nothing to do with it. His account was hacked or w/e, then the account got vac'd.
2015-05-19 17:59
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#89
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Norway ultra:D
LOL. Did they really just edit the statement like that? This is what I originally read: "The player is not associated with the account, and therefore no cheating actions." Or did I just read it wrong the first two times?
2015-05-19 18:06
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#107
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World S1mplelife
edited indeed.
2015-05-19 18:19
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#119
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Norway kakkopp
Edited from both sides, cuz obvously made it unclear
2015-05-19 18:24
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#56
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World AlexNjos
Everyone within the Norwegian cs-scene knows that the account belongs to him. This will create havoc for Valve, now they need to do the same with dream3r too. I don't know what Valve is doing, but as I said, everyone with alittle bit of knowledge within Norway knows that this guy has been cheating some years back.
2015-05-19 17:52
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#69
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Sweden Marcus1g
Valve havent said anything. LGB organization only claims that Valve did. There is a big difference. Valve does not give away info about banned accounts. So its most likely just the LGB organization trying to cover up the issue to get away with their image undamaged.
2015-05-19 17:59
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#98
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Denmark Kevzz
So you're saying we never reached out to Valve? And this is a story we make up?
2015-05-19 18:13
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#108
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Sweden Marcus1g
Im saying what I know: Valve does not give vac'd accounts info. What I think doesnt really matter, but if you/lgb were trying to clean up your name and mystic name with this, its totally off. Either get valve to release a statement on the issue, or its completely pointless to claim that Valve said X or Y. But thats just my opinion ;)
2015-05-19 18:19
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#113
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Denmark Kevzz
It's not "Claims" .. It's Fact, the right people have seen the proof, and thats enough.
2015-05-19 18:21
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#116
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Marcus1g
If you believe thats enough, dont blame the community for having the LGB brand image damaged. ^^
2015-05-19 18:23
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#137
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Europe mc218132
That's logic. Let's just ruin our rep over a hacker we don't need! N1
2015-05-19 18:45
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#139
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Sweden Marcus1g
Lets release a statement saying Valve claimed something, while not showing Valve's statement at all. Thats logic. Again, like Kevzz said above, "the right people have seen the proof", if thats enough for LGB org, im fine with it. But the community has the power to trash their reputation ;)
2015-05-19 18:47
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#60
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway Turmoils
Even if he did cheat, a VAC ban doesn't mean he cheated in CS. It could stem from any other game. I don't really see the problem if his ban would have been super old, and maybe not even from CS at all.
2015-05-19 17:54
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#65
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RpK | 
Germany lloyd6077
the question that bothers me is that his sensitivity is 2.33 but his dpi are yet unknown
2015-05-19 17:56
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#75
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
450 DPI - You're welcome.
2015-05-19 18:01
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#84
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
Lol
2015-05-19 18:04
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#70
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway ensa
Yes, the account belonged to him, but not at the time that he received his vacban. Valve has confirmed that. What more do you people need?
2015-05-19 17:59
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#74
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World AlexNjos
"The investigation carried out shows that the player has been subject to false accusations, and is not linked to the account." Something you don't realize, dear ensa? :)
2015-05-19 18:01
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#96
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway ensa
That's on LGB for being unclear. He used that account, but not when it got banned. As in, he wasn't the one who got the account banned, which is what Valve has cleared up. Just let it go, you will never win this discussion because you're wrong.
2015-05-19 18:11
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#150
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World AlexNjos
How can it be wrong? The whole situation where they state it didn't belong to him is only getting more and more shady when he says himself his account has gotten hacked, whilst a near friend of him says he sold it. How can we even believe one single word he says? I claim him guilty of getting that vac ban, and I am sure it will come forward :)
2015-05-19 19:03
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#112
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REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
They skipped the details
2015-05-19 18:21
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#118
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World S1mplelife
+1 this is starting to look REALLY shady.....
2015-05-19 18:23
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#78
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
Fuckings crybabies @ hltv
2015-05-19 18:03
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#81
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
KARMY | 
Ireland skend
mystic bestest player
2015-05-19 18:04
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#83
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Norway ch1ckeNN
doesn't mean he doesnt cheat now. Which he does.
2015-05-19 18:04
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#102
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Senzu | 
Poland Z0h4n01
H O W M U C H O W M U C H
2015-05-19 18:15
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#151
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Norway ch1ckeNN
I don't bet skins.
2015-05-19 19:03
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#101
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Senzu | 
Poland Z0h4n01
get rekt witchhunters
2015-05-19 18:14
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#103
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United States Rivitur
He did fill in for property once so the science did know about him for a awhile.
2015-05-19 18:16
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#109
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World S1mplelife
Did Hltv edit this article? originally: "The player is not associated with the account, and therefore no cheating actions"" and now: "The player is not associated with the accounts VAC BAN" this is looking really shady...
2015-05-19 18:20
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#114
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
Nothing shady, it was a mistake from both sides, the original post on our site also stated that.
2015-05-19 18:22
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#120
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World S1mplelife
Could you understand why it could be considered shady tho?:P This article goes live and people start posting proof that mystic is INDEED linked to the account.. and the article changes? so whats the official story now? Mystic sold his account after playing byLan 2013? and got vac banned 2-3 weeks after? hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=790736#r922..
2015-05-19 18:25
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#123
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
I understand why everything is Shady, and theres a clear reason why we reach out to Valve in this situation. We have been in contact with Valve, people can choose to believe it or not, the right people have seen the actual conversations between Valve and us. There's no "OFFICIAL STORY" .. Except he had nothing to do with the VAC Ban on the account, which is also confirmed by Valve, we would never sign a VAC Banned player, we plan on attending Majors too.
2015-05-19 18:27
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#126
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World S1mplelife
mystic received the vac ban October 23, 2013. That was 16 days after attending byLAN eswc qualifiers 2013. yeah he had nothing to do with the vac ban.. valve should do a real fucking investigation instead of licking rich organizations asses.
2015-05-19 18:30
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#130
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
Sure, if thats how you feel.
2015-05-19 18:30
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#131
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World S1mplelife
will there be an official statement from Mystic how he managed to get his old account vac banned 2 weeks after attending byLAN 2013?
2015-05-19 18:32
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#178
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway ultra:D
You waited a long time to issue this statement(Despite stating in the original topic almost two weeks ago that you would release a statement about it within a day.), how then can you make such a mistake? How can you expect anyone to believe it was a mistake? I also find it funny that you today(after people started pointing out the issues with the statements) have gotten all the original threads with all the facts about this matter deleted. Seems like quite the cover-up to me. I understand tho, there are not many other players to chose from in Norway so ofc you will do anything in your power to clean his name ;)
2015-05-19 21:49
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#180
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
Sure.
2015-05-19 22:02
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#115
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Other plath - <3 wayLander
nt MystiC nt LGB
2015-05-19 18:22
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#122
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Heeze
Lmao I cant believe the shit I'm reading. Are people really saying that the CEO of Diglife, who own LGB, NiP and some other organisation (CphW?), made up the whole "we contacted Valve" part?? It's also not the first time Valve investigated a VAC ban of a pro player. They checked flamie's acccount, mathend's and now Mystic's. Did you guys lose a MM game against him or what? HLTV - never change
2015-05-19 18:27
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#125
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Sweden robiinxd
Made it up? Probably no, but the only reason he is unbanned? Most likely yes.
2015-05-19 18:29
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#134
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REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
he wasent in the possession of the account when it was vaced! now grow up and stop acting like a cunt hair
2015-05-19 18:41
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#142
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Marcus1g
You dont get it. If they contacted Valve and Valve claimed what they said they did, whats the point in not showing it to the community, the ones who have the power to trash their reputation in the first place? Its pretty easy i would say to simply show a part of Valve's statement claiming he has nothing to do with the vac.
2015-05-19 18:50
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#148
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
Lets pull out some Logic here too. Let's say we didn't contact Valve, and he had a VAC Banned account, why would we sign him in the first place? We plan on attending Majors, so wouldn't it be a dum move, to sign him, if we didn't reach out to them.
2015-05-19 19:01
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#152
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Marcus1g
And you are honestly expecting HLTV.org, this community, to think logicly? How long have you been following this miserable scene mate? In case you havent realized, what im saying is actually to help the LGB brand. I never thought Mystic was hacking at all, and LGB is one of my 3 favourite teams ;)
2015-05-19 19:03
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#181
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
After all theese years i still have faith in Logic, but it's slowly fading. But if people put logic behind this, then they should realize we wouldnt sign a player which risked being denied entry to majors.
2015-05-19 22:06
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#182
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Marcus1g
Lost faith many months ago. Oh well, hopefully the LGB brand image doesnt get punished.
2015-05-19 22:09
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#124
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Norway spytt
Good :)
2015-05-19 18:28
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These fucking comments lel. The LGB Conspiracy.
2015-05-19 19:01
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#155
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Finland jUiCERR
Don't really care as long as he isn't cheating in official matches. Like who gives a shit if the ban was issued cheating on a pub.. KQLY, smF, emilio on the other hand are human trash on a whole another level.
2015-05-19 19:21
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#156
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Norway Thorstad
Rip lgb if he has Been vaced in the past
2015-05-19 19:34
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#160
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Spain Jonatham_E1
"Valve themselves said"?? You mean LGB said that Valve said? Really clever by them, they know Valve cant be arsed to deny that. As they never give any information about vac'd players, why would they do now?
2015-05-19 19:40
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#163
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Macau tarpenseen
This is so stupid. First of all, none should be allowed to play if he has vac ban. This "excuse" stolen account, sold and etc could be setup. Everybody with iq above 30 would realize that he should find something as excuse after cheating. Simply, almost every banned pro player has same excuse, stolen/sold. That easiest way to get away. I can cheat now on my main, and i realize that i will get ban sooner or later, i can just change steam_id on esea, faceit, esl, and to sell story that i was hacked or that i sold account. Sold/hijacked account is worst excuse
2015-05-19 19:55
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#199
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway dybe
Difference is that every banned player doesn't have a statement from valve saying that the was NOT involved in the VAC ban. That statement is everything.
2015-05-20 12:19
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#201
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Macau tarpenseen
This kind of statement could wrote anyway. If they dont provide any ss of valve confirmation that he is unbanned (or w/e), i think he shouldnt play. Imagine this. I decide to cheat to get into some big event. After that i know that i will get banned sooner or later, i decide to change account, and to have hijacked/sold account as excuse. That can do anybody 1000 times.
2015-05-20 12:25
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#204
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway dybe
Why would they need to provide a screenshot for the freaking hltv-kids community? Also, you imagine it wrong. Valve checked the account, and that probably means they found out the account was being used with cheats AFTER it was sold, not before. And yes, they can do that sort of thing. Also, as LGB stated, if there was ANY proof of mystic cheating, they would not sight him, and I believe that to be true. LGB want to play majors, why would they risk it? This was a witch hunt based on wrong facts delivered by the cancerous shitkid community of HLTV.org.
2015-05-20 13:05
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#205
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Macau tarpenseen
You are Norwegian and i understand that. Same was with mathend, dreamer, nille and other guys. I dont see officail statement from valve. Kqly can also wrote statement that he is false banned, and that it was confirmed by valve. Or emilio. I dont think that valve will came to hltv to demand rumors. Proof for cheating? But what is vac ban? so vac banned players are still innocent if you dont have boost movie or something like that. cmon
2015-05-20 13:12
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#164
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Sweden Danzk1
hltv kids get f-ing rekt <3
2015-05-19 20:02
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#165
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Other 121212123
people will cry and they will cry but nothing will happen to Mystic unless he gets a vac ban on his current account so you can waste all the time in the world witch hunting another player based on an inactive account with his name branded on it but that's about it. Valve won't do shit lmao.
2015-05-19 20:13
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#167
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Lithuania zefyrzmogis
hltvosaurus rekt
2015-05-19 20:20
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#188
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Greece her-1g
pwned kiddos
2015-05-19 23:36
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#189
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Sweden mlns
man where did i put my fucking tinfoil hat
2015-05-19 23:40
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#190
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ANDROID | 
United States sanders2s
i don't buy it, just watch that highlight clip. blatant aimbot
2015-05-20 00:41
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get baited hahaha
2015-05-20 12:20
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#202
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kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
lol the butthurt mystic haters, what he do to you? steal you gf spit in your face or he just dominated you in mm? time to move on losers
2015-05-20 12:26
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#203
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Canada ZeroG_cs
Fuck Prb Low tier one LGB jkaem RUBINO Polly Mystic (Btw im not saying me) Skurk
2015-05-20 12:36
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#206
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Norway Leffa
To my knowledge everyone in Norway knows his old account got hacked/vacced, he even confirmed it when he first made a new account? He might be new to the scene internationally but everyone in Norway has been aware of him for years. He has played well on all the LAN's i have seen him, so in my eyes he is just a talented played, but LGB should have given him the benefit of doubt rather then trying to convince the scene that it was never his account..
2015-05-20 14:03
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#207
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
fragbite.se/masters/news/37305/lgb-espor.. For thoose who wants to know if we actually talked to Valve, or made it all up.
2015-05-20 15:55
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#211
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World S1mplelife
so what? Valve checks if mystic have been using both accounts, right? And it has been 2 years since someone used that account.. so he might have a new computer / new isp and obviously they will see its not the same IP / Mac-address.
2015-05-20 20:03
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#216
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Denmark Kevzz
I guess you should contact Valve and ask.
2015-05-20 21:14
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#217
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World S1mplelife
yeah you're obviously not interested in finding out if mystic cheated or not.
2015-05-20 21:40
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#224
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Canada ZeroG_cs
We are Valve said that hes is good to go i'm sorry that some people don't like witch hunting :)
2015-05-21 20:20
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#226
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Norway HaakonKj
I work at valve and can confirm that Mystic is not cheating.
2015-05-21 21:23
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I also just contacted my friend at valve <WeT_TiGhT> Did LGB contact you about mystic's old vac ban? <Gabe Newell> They didn't otherwise I would have known about it <WeT_TiGhT> they claimed on hltv.org they did <Gabe Newell> well I can claim Half Life 3 is confirmed <WeT_TiGhT> HL3 confirmed? <Gabe Newell> no As you can see from this log, I really did contact valve and they say lgb are lying
2015-05-20 16:27
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#225
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Canada ZeroG_cs
What a shitty troll dude
2015-05-21 20:21
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#214
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World lucasslimasd
mystic nice !
2015-05-20 20:54
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#227
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Brunei cyLoL
good on LGB glad they didnt freak out and cut him hes a beast , and its sad that the VAC witch hunt hits a legit player.
2015-05-23 09:24
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