Team Ranking: October 2015

We have updated our global team rankings following action at CS:GO's latest major in DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca as well as for the month of October at large.

HLTV.org introduced our new and definite global team rankings system on the first of October, 2015.

Our official rankings scientist Julien "topeiko" Hottias has just updated the rankings, and since it takes place after this past weekend's major at DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca, many definitive changes are to be found in the rankings.

Once again, the ranking is based on teams' achievements over the past year (with severe decay in points throughout each month), recent form over the last 2 months, and performance at the last ten offline events.


A new number one team emerges 

All of that is predicated around a three-man core each team is required to have in order to retain their past points. Online matches and tournaments are included, but with a diminishing factor which means they cannot make a big difference among the top teams, and mainly serve to put new teams on the map.

We will always have a special page where you will be able to find the latest version of our ranking (which is sometimes updated on a weekly basis if the events scene is busy).

Here is the current top 20 table as of November 3rd, 2015, which goes more in-depth into the way points are distributed.

Rank Team Achievements Form LANs Total points +/-
1. France EnVyUs 452 247 250 949 +2
2. Denmark TSM 445 250 126 821 -
3. Sweden fnatic 500 162 123 785 -2
4. Poland Virtus.pro 448 153 121 722 -
5. Null element Natus Vincere 348 141 109 598 -
6. Sweden NiP 284 128 79 491 -
7. Europe G2 141 99 68 308 +1
8. United States Cloud9 196 36 41 273 -1
9. Brazil Luminosity 123 63 36 222 +3
10. United States CLG 138 44 38 220 +1
11. France Titan 83 78 40 201 +4
12. Denmark dignitas 120 57 22 199 -3
13. Germany mousesports 122 40 36 198 -3
14. United States Liquid 79 87 30 196 -
15. Ukraine FlipSid3 113 42 23 178 -2
16. Bulgaria E-frag.net 64 59 5 128 -
17. Australia Renegades 77 14 15 106 +1
18. Poland Vexed 63 6 21 90 +1
19. Poland CSGL 51 30 1 82 +1
20. Australia Immunity 40 9 17 66 +6

We'll now quickly take a look at the top fifteen teams and how they recently fared, especially in regards to our flagship takeover in the form of EnVyUs becoming the highest ranked team in the world.

1. France EnVyUs

Player Age Rating
France Vincent "⁠Happy⁠" Schopenhauer 23 1.14
France Kenny "⁠kennyS⁠" Schrub 20 1.11
France Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt 21 1.07
France Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire 22 1.06
France Fabien "⁠kioShiMa⁠" Fiey 21 1.02

Following two offline event wins in September (DH Open London and Gfinity Champions), EnVyUs followed up by winning DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca in a convincing and masterful fashion and are now number one. In a way, taking first place following this result was a fait accompli for the French five.


nV's risk with dispensing of shox's services paid off

EnVyUs are still slightly behind fnatic in long term achievements (summer's slump hurt them here as well as a lineup change that retained only 3/5 players from the old nV team) and a little behind TSM in terms of form following the Danes' 25-map win streak, however the overall impression is that nV have conclusively knocked fnatic off of their perch as well as edging out TSM, who underwhelmed at Cluj.

2. Denmark TSM

Player Age Rating
Denmark Nicolai "⁠device⁠" Reedtz 20 1.19
Denmark Peter "⁠dupreeh⁠" Rasmussen 22 1.09
Denmark René "⁠cajunb⁠" Borg 25 1.08
Denmark Andreas "⁠Xyp9x⁠" Højsleth 20 1.06
Denmark Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen 25 0.98

Winning PGL Season 1 finals was a statement of strength, and dominating online regular season games was a show of good form, but Team SoloMid really had to win this major to retain that first place spot (which they quietly gained in the middle of October due to stellar form) and convince the world they were the best.


TSM live on to fight another day

Unfortunately for TSM, that did not happen as karrigan and his boys disappeared in the quarter-finals against NiP, a performance which hearkened back to the dismal Danish days of 2014 at majors.

Although TSM retain a slight lead in form as well, points decay will soon kick in and could see nV take a lead there as well. IEM San Jose will be the next chance to set the record straight for these top two contendeers.

3. Sweden fnatic

Player Age Rating
Sweden Robin "⁠flusha⁠" Rönnquist 22 1.15
Sweden Olof "⁠olofmeister⁠" Kajbjer 23 1.10
Sweden Freddy "⁠KRIMZ⁠" Johansson 21 1.09
Sweden Jesper "⁠JW⁠" Wecksell 20 1.00
Sweden Markus "⁠pronax⁠" Wallsten 24 0.87

fnatic's dominance in 2015 keeps the Swedish team floating face up for now, but October has been a shaky month for the team in all senses of the word. A third place finish at PGL Season 1 now seems like a relief compred to Cluj, where nV trumped fnatic 2-1 in the quarter-finals and the previous major winners went home in 5-8th place.


Troubling times lie ahead for the Swedes, if recent results are anything to go by

And the largest hit to fnatic's points has therefore been the gap between last major's performance in Cologne and the recent major in Cluj. This fact is due to the fact that majors carry tremendous weight.

However, the glaring fact still stands that fnatic have not won an event since ESL One Cologne which happened almost three months ago. With no confirmed event attendance in November (although fnatic will likely qualify for the FACEIT Stage 3 finals), this fact should pose an issue although for now fnatic still hold the most achievement points.

4. Poland Virtus.pro

Player Age Rating
Poland Janusz "⁠Snax⁠" Pogorzelski 22 1.08
Poland Wiktor "⁠TaZ⁠" Wojtas 29 1.03
Poland Paweł "⁠byali⁠" Bieliński 21 1.00
Poland Filip "⁠NEO⁠" Kubski 28 0.97
Poland Jarosław "⁠pashaBiceps⁠" Jarząbkowski 27 0.94

A win at the Crown's Invitational coupled with a second place finish at PGL Season 1 were promising results for the Poles and showed that they were suddenly fighting with a previously unseen consistency in all their offline tournaments.


Virtus.pro can still contend for top three

Despite an unforseen defeat to G2 in the quarter-finals of DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca, with the pan-European team playing out of their minds, VP retain the fourth place spot quite comfortably ahead of teams below them.

This coming weekend's action at CEVO Season 8 will be a test for this ranking, especially with the fifth ranked team, Na`Vi, also attending.

5. Null element Natus Vincere

Player Age Rating
Slovakia Ladislav "⁠GuardiaN⁠" Kovács 24 1.22
Russia Egor "⁠flamie⁠" Vasilyev 18 1.05
Russia Denis "⁠seized⁠" Kostin 21 1.03
Ukraine Ioann "⁠Edward⁠" Sukhariev 27 0.99
Ukraine Danylo "⁠Zeus⁠" Teslenko 28 0.92

After months of disappointing results, Na`Vi made an extremely deep playoff run at the Cluj major and reached their first major grand final ever.


Fortune favours the bearded, as Na`Vi have found

Not only does this result allow the team to breach the top five, the Eastern European team's defeat of NiP in the semifinals now widens the gap between the two (with NiP sitting at sixth place) and allows Na`Vi to begin to gun for the top four.

This coming weekend's CEVO Season 8 finals will therefore be extremely important for Zeus and crew.

6. Sweden NiP

Player Age Rating
Sweden Patrik "⁠f0rest⁠" Lindberg 27 1.09
Sweden Christopher "⁠GeT_RiGhT⁠" Alesund 25 1.07
Finland Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli 23 1.06
Sweden Richard "⁠Xizt⁠" Landström 24 1.02
Sweden Adam "⁠friberg⁠" Friberg 24 0.89

NiP have dropped into sixth place, but a semifinals major run and convincing wins over Titan and TSM provided much needed points for a team many had classified as dead on arrival and kept them from falling further.


The Ninjas kept it one hundred in Cluj

Losing to Na`Vi pretty convincingly killed any chances of a Cinderella run into the finals, but the team can rest easy throughout November with this sort of result.

Although they won't be attending the CEVO finals, the Ninjas will be put to the test in San Jose later this month (as will many teams in our top ten aside from fnatic, G2, and possibly CLG).

7. Europe G2

Player Age Rating
Norway Joakim "⁠jkaem⁠" Myrbostad 21 1.10
Norway Håvard "⁠rain⁠" Nygaard 21 1.10
Sweden Dennis "⁠dennis⁠" Edman 24 1.06
Portugal Ricardo "⁠fox⁠" Pacheco 29 0.99
Sweden Mikail "⁠Maikelele⁠" Bill 24 0.98

G2 gain a spot at the expense of Cloud9 and continue an onwards march following a miraculous semifinals run at DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca that continues to defy those who thought the team's inherent composition was unstable.


Points-elele

G2 are now poised to continue the long grind to top five, and they will be aided by the fact that this somewhat newly formed team will not encounter much points decay.

However, November will be somewhat quiet for this pan-European team as they missed out on attending CEVO Season 8 finals despite having an opportunity to attend although G2 still have a strong chance of qualifying for the FACEIT Stage 3 finals at DreamHack Winter that will take place at the end of November.

8. United States Cloud9

Player Age Rating
United States Tyler "⁠Skadoodle⁠" Latham 22 1.10
Canada Mike "⁠shroud⁠" Grzesiek 21 1.08
United States Jordan "⁠n0thing⁠" Gilbert 25 1.00
United States Sean "⁠seang@res⁠" Gares 27 0.96
United States Ryan "⁠freakazoid⁠" Abadir 22 0.93

The huge bonus accumulated by the North American team over the summer is now in a freefall, and disappointing placings at the Crown's Invitational (losing to Immunity) as well as failing to make it out of groups yet again in Cluj are a worrying sign for n0thing & co.


Like a hamburger advertisement, the reality is far from the appearance

Unlike European teams, Cloud9 will have have an extremely packed November however and could stand to benefit as a result. Despite not competing in CEVO Season 8, seang@res and his men will attend the iBP cup, the RGN Pro Series LAN, IEM San Jose, and are likely to be one of the two North American teams to qualify for FACEIT S3 at DreamHack Winter.

9. Brazil Luminosity

Player Age Rating
Brazil Marcelo "⁠coldzera⁠" David 21 1.16
Brazil Fernando "⁠fer⁠" Alvarenga 24 1.11
Brazil Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo 24 1.10
Brazil Ricardo "⁠boltz⁠" Prass 18 1.04
Brazil Lucas "⁠steel⁠" Lopes 21 0.93

Luminosity gain three spots and rocket into our top ten due to a third consecutive successful run into the playoffs of a CS:GO major. Managing to defeat both Cloud9 and fnatic to take top seed of their group was a feat in and of itself, even if a dominant Na`Vi spoiled the dream of a semifinals finish for FalleN and his men.


Putting South America on the map one major at a time

The team have one of the busiest November calendars around, starting with CEVO Season 8 this coming weekend and with offline events virtually every weekend after that. This pace could be a blessing or a curse; only time will tell.

10. United States CLG

Player Age Rating
United States Josh "⁠jdm64⁠" Marzano 25 1.15
United States Tarik "⁠tarik⁠" Celik 19 1.11
United States James "⁠hazed⁠" Cobb 26 1.04
United States Stephen "⁠reltuC⁠" Cutler 26 0.99
Canada Pujan "⁠FNS⁠" Mehta 23 0.97

Although not as red-hot as their South American counter-parts, CLG have played consistent Counter-Strike for a second tier team and, following a much needed win at the WinOut Championships in September, they break the top ten following a strong performance at the major.

 


Three teams from the Americas are now in the top ten

While it's true that CLG did not make it out of groups, they defeated dignitas in the losers' match of Group D and dueled Na`Vi in a best-of-one and then a best-of-three with potential for both series to have gone the North American team's way.

Like the other North American teams on this list, November will provide ample opportunity to farm points if the results are promising due to four upcoming events on American soil.

11. France Titan

Player Age Rating
Belgium Adil "⁠ScreaM⁠" Benrlitom 21 1.09
France Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon 23 1.08
France Cédric "⁠RpK⁠" Guipouy 26 0.98
Belgium Kévin "⁠Ex6TenZ⁠" Droolans 25 0.97
France Edouard "⁠SmithZz⁠" Dubourdeaux 26 0.96

Titan make the second biggest gain in our Top 20 ranking and fall just short of a top ten finish, which could very well have been achieved if the team had not crumbled to NiP in the Group C decider match.

ScreaM and co. were no match for Virtus.pro but they proved they can battle with NiP, or at least that was the case in the opening match. Once again however, the Titanfall was hardest when it mattered and the team sit out of the top ten.

Titan will be attending CEVO Season 8 finals which is a huge plus for the French-Belgian team as later on they will not attend IEM San Jose and will not qualify for FACEIT S3 at DreamHack Winter with a 2-8 record in the regular season.

12. Denmark dignitas

Player Age Rating
Denmark Philip "⁠aizy⁠" Aistrup 19 1.18
Denmark Jacob "⁠Pimp⁠" Winneche 20 1.07
Denmark Markus "⁠Kjaerbye⁠" Kjærbye 17 1.04
Denmark Jesper "⁠TENZKI⁠" Plougmann 21 1.00
Denmark Mathias "⁠MSL⁠" Lauridsen 20 0.93

dignitas' exchange of Andreas "⁠znajder⁠" Lindberg for TENZKI following a successful qualification for the major was but a pipe dream as the team flopped in Cluj, losing to both EnVyUs and CLG.

dignitas will quietly attend CEVO Season 8 finals and attempt to stand out among the other seven teams there. A good result would be a much needed salve to a disappointing October for the Danes.

13. Germany mousesports

Player Age Rating
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač 18 1.15
Germany Johannes "⁠nex⁠" Maget 23 1.11
Netherlands Chris "⁠chrisJ⁠" de Jong 25 1.05
Germany Denis "⁠denis⁠" Howell 21 0.92
Germany Fatih "⁠gob b⁠" Dayik 28 0.80

Much like dignitas above them, mousesports are in a freefall following a failed attempt to exit groups in Cluj. The team did manage to beat FlipSid3 and take a map off of G2, but this was ultimately not enough.

Like the four teams ranked above them, mouz stand to gain from this weekend's CEVO Season 8 finals, assuming that gob b can repeat the solid 3-4th finish that the team achieved at the CEVO Season 7 finals.

14. United States Liquid

Player Age Rating
United States Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella 20 1.16
United States Spencer "⁠Hiko⁠" Martin 25 1.14
United States Jacob "⁠FugLy⁠" Medina 20 1.08
United States Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski 18 1.07
United States Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag 25 1.04

Many claimed that Liquid were the best North American team of the three in attendance at Cluj following a dominant run in online matches and a fourth place finish at PGL Season 1 (admittedly last place in a four team event, but with a map win taken off of fnatic and a closely played de_overpass against VP).

Following an overtime thriller against Virtus.pro in the Cluj major, Hiko and his men could not find that form within them to defeat NiP and exited the groups. Liquid will have a busy November and attend CEVO Season 8, iBP Cup, RGN Pro Series, possibly IEM San Jose, and possibly DreamHack Winter.

15. Ukraine FlipSid3

Player Age Rating
Russia Georgi "⁠WorldEdit⁠" Yaskin 24 1.15
Ukraine Vladyslav "⁠bondik⁠" Nechyporchuk 22 1.12
Ukraine Yegor "⁠markeloff⁠" Markelov 27 0.99
Russia Vadim "⁠DavCost⁠" Vasilyev 19 0.93
Ukraine Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy 28 0.88

FlipSid3 drop two spots in our ranking, and are now floating with enough points to stay quite separate from 16th place but with no planned events in the near future.

As a result, markeloff and co. are a sort of gatekeeper team, and ambitious young teams below them should aspire to attend events and try and eclipse the stagnant Eastern European team before they return to form.

 

We have also updated our graph showing the evolution of teams' points throughout 2015.

You can also see which teams round up the Top 20 over at our dedicated Team ranking page (which will be updated tomorrow due to technical issues), and we still plan to expand the list over time to incorporate more teams as events continue to proliferate in CS:GO.

November will certainly be a busy month, with four events in North America and one in Sweden at the month's end, and you can certainly expect some changes by the next time we post a feature article to explain new rankings in early December.

stich writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter

Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
97
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.65
United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
152
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.71
France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
793
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
France Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
287
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
France Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
788
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
652
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
211
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
Sweden Andreas 'znajder' Lindberg
Andreas 'znajder' Lindberg
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
461
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
Germany Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
290
KPR:
0.53
DPR:
0.67
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
245
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.63
Sweden Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
711
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.68
Poland Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
695
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.65
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
275
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.59
Russia Denis 'seized' Kostin
Denis 'seized' Kostin
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
645
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
Sweden Mikail 'Maikelele' Bill
Mikail 'Maikelele' Bill
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
351
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.62
United States Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
167
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
621
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.71
United States James 'hazed' Cobb
James 'hazed' Cobb
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
208
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
247
KPR:
0.83
DPR:
0.70
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
210
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.66
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Age:
27
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
820
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
405
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
857
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
182
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.72
Poland Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
858
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.65
Denmark René 'cajunb' Borg
René 'cajunb' Borg
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
523
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Jesper 'TENZKI' Plougmann
Jesper 'TENZKI' Plougmann
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
228
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
1.21
Maps played:
837
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.60
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
524
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.63
Sweden Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
695
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.65
Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
566
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.65
Russia Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Age:
18
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
459
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.68
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
578
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.69
Canada Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
210
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
23
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
504
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.64
Norway Joakim 'jkaem' Myrbostad
Joakim 'jkaem' Myrbostad
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
182
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.71
Russia Vadim 'DavCost' Vasilyev
Vadim 'DavCost' Vasilyev
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
127
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
Poland Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
808
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
Slovakia Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
638
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.62
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
730
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.66
United States Stephen 'reltuC' Cutler
Stephen 'reltuC' Cutler
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
213
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.64
United States Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
208
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
339
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
United States Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
203
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.67
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
272
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.67
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
631
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.64
Ukraine Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
331
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
United States Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
300
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.60
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
149
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.64
Germany Denis 'denis' Howell
Denis 'denis' Howell
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
338
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.71
Ukraine Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
399
KPR:
0.60
DPR:
0.73
Germany Johannes 'nex' Maget
Johannes 'nex' Maget
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
357
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
676
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.62
Belgium Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
580
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
592
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Age:
27
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
649
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Age:
28
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
653
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
615
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.65
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
143
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
Sweden Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
540
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.61
Russia Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
390
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
Sweden Adam 'friberg' Friberg
Adam 'friberg' Friberg
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
821
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
Sweden Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
711
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
621
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
591
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.72
Brazil Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
145
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.69
Sweden Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
841
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
Portugal Ricardo 'fox' Pacheco
Ricardo 'fox' Pacheco
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
326
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
Sweden Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
559
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.64
Norway Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
249
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
Brazil Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
140
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
674
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
Sweden Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
269
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
United States Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
273
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.67
Belgium Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
708
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.63
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
677
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.62
#5
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Bulgaria 1bazookA
nice
2015-11-03 20:38
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#315
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United Kingdom s1mplinh0
fox 28 ? dafuq....
2015-11-04 02:42
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1 reply
#316
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United Kingdom s1mplinh0
dafuq squad: krimz, xp9ex, tarik, flusha, jw, markeloff, seagares, edward,
2015-11-04 02:46
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#393
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France R3kt4li
I still hope that, one day we'll hve that Top10 : EnVy (fanboy sry) TSM NiP (impossible atm) G2 LG VP Fnatic CLG Titan Dignitas But Titan and dignitas can't reach top10 and Fnatic will never go out of top 4 as NiP will never be top5 anymore :/
2015-11-05 06:51
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#10
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Poland Bogusz
nice
2015-11-03 20:38
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#11
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Sweden SLITZ
rip fnatic
2015-11-03 20:39
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#14
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World Skillao
seiously LG in 9º '-' fuck this life
2015-11-03 20:39
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#79
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s1mple | 
United Kingdom Glevin96
yes, they haven't deserved much other than beating fnatic in a bo1 ... and c9 (wow Kappa), clg did the same months back where was the uproar?
2015-11-03 20:53
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#109
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United States itzgin
The hilarious part is if cold didn't hard carry vs C9, they would've lost, even though C9 is slumping right now. But HLTV and fanboys of LG will say something different lol.
2015-11-03 21:03
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#137
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Slovakia DLG Inspire
Lmao they lost to Navi so close,and they lost because their best players Fallen and Cold were hardly bottomfragging... They made 3x TOP8 in a row,and it talks for itself,they are by far better than Na trash,so pls
2015-11-03 21:13
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13 replies
#147
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markeloff | 
Brazil diixon
+1
2015-11-03 21:18
0
2 replies
#158
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Brazil agoravai
+2
2015-11-03 21:21
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#254
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Brazil gigios
+1
2015-11-03 22:36
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#191
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World hikovich
bo1 wins much impressive such wow
2015-11-03 21:42
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6 replies
#225
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Brazil ChoKe_Clan_no_major
adderall9 bo3 wins much impressive such wow
2015-11-03 22:10
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#238
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United States itzgin
Much more than BO1 wins, LOL. And that joke is old, was never funny at all.
2015-11-03 22:20
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#273
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United States Bellerbe
Still have yet to see LG win a b03 against EU (c9 have done it multiple times)
2015-11-03 23:04
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1 reply
#283
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Brazil ChoKe_Clan_no_major
with drugs rofl
2015-11-03 23:44
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#237
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kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR
you guys talk about bo1 like if it was a different game. It's still counter strike GO and still a victory against the best CSGO team of 2015.
2015-11-03 22:20
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1 reply
#357
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Brunei easybreezy
yes it is but is it enough to be a top 5 team NO
2015-11-04 13:04
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#233
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kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR
lol you rekted him so hard that make me feel bad for him hahaha +1
2015-11-03 22:18
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#239
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United States itzgin
Nobody "rekted" anyone, he's just mad cause all they can do is win BO1's.
2015-11-03 22:21
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#264
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Other rez9
+1
2015-11-03 22:46
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#148
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World smnEvo
Luminosity > C9
2015-11-03 21:19
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6 replies
#241
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United States itzgin
BO1 > BO3 wins apparently, great logic. Come back when LG can win a series.
2015-11-03 22:21
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5 replies
#255
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Brazil gigios
who should be above LG?
2015-11-03 22:37
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#279
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Brazil Ljungberg
You're a fucking annoying fanboy. Worse than the br's sucking fallen's dick. Stop it, you're looking dumb as fuck bro.
2015-11-03 23:32
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2 replies
#302
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United States itzgin
I didn't know facts make someone a fanboy, HAHAHA. Get mad.
2015-11-04 01:40
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1 reply
#342
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Brazil Ljungberg
cloud9 is shit, that's a fact, they're losing a lot now and cant even get out of groups at ANY major, deal with it. Now gtfo, fat boy.
2015-11-04 11:39
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#299
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World smnEvo
Who went to playoffs? Who is still legend?
2015-11-04 01:07
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#181
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Denmark Gedehamster
Clown9 is slumping? Wrong, they were simply overperforming for a short while.
2015-11-03 21:32
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7 replies
#219
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Macau adidasking
+100000000
2015-11-03 22:06
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#235
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United States itzgin
You are stupid, if you can't see that they're slumping at all then you don't know CS in general.
2015-11-03 22:19
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5 replies
#242
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Denmark Gedehamster
You're a blind fanboy. They've been shit for years, get good for a short while, and now they're back to being shit. Open your eyes.
2015-11-03 22:22
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4 replies
#250
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United States itzgin
I'm not even a fanboy LOL, it's called facts, idiot. You are beyond dumb if you believe this is anywhere near their "normal" level. You can see it in their games, everything is down a couple levels on both shroud and ska, n0thing is roughly the same. Come back to me when you have something else to say outside of "blind fanboy," when I was stating a fact. LG has done NOTHING but win BO1's. Tell me when they win a series vs a top team.
2015-11-03 22:27
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3 replies
#290
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Denmark Gedehamster
Reading your other comments just shows how big a waste of time it would be to discuss with someone like you. You will ignore whatever the other person says and go rant about irrelevant things... Not once did I say anything about LG. I'm saying Clown9 was bad, then played with the big boys for a short while and now they're back to being bad. /close
2015-11-04 00:01
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#303
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United States itzgin
Considering my OP was talking about LG, yeah...I never said you said anything about them, did I? purely stating facts. They were BAD with semphis and shah, if you can't see they're in a slump then you're stupid, there's literally no way around it. I don't ignore ANYTHING people say, I call them out on being idiots and fanboying hardcore. I state facts, and the FACT IS (everyone at the major, analyst's, casters, and even players know that) C9 is slumping.
2015-11-04 01:44
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#330
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Venezuela (*__*)
Just stop, youre retarded :<
2015-11-04 07:41
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#370
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France YUROP
The hilarious part is if skadoodle didn't hard carry vs everyone, they would not even be top 20, even though shroud can carry there and here. But HLTV and fanboys of cloud 9 will say something different lol.
2015-11-04 17:37
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#371
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United States itzgin
It was both shroud and ska when they were playing good and not in a slump....idiot.
2015-11-04 18:07
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#378
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France YUROP
yeah im saying that skadoodle and sometimes shroud both carried them to c9's top 10 while coldzera only carried them in literally a one bo1
2015-11-04 18:55
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#373
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Sweden hassel
na is just having a slump oh wait
2015-11-04 18:36
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#398
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Sweden gnaaRLY
The only thing hilarious here is your hilariously terrible understanding of how this ranking works. It's based on statistics, which means that purely non-mathematical aspects ("if this hadn't happened, then..." in your case "if coldzera hadn't carried, then...") does not, can not, and should not have an impact on the rankings.
2015-11-05 20:24
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#205
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World MAgaL
GO FUCK YOURSELF...U ARE ENVIUS u little shit
2015-11-03 21:48
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#263
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s1mple | 
United Kingdom Glevin96
lol ugottriggered m8
2015-11-03 22:46
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#397
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Sweden gnaaRLY
As you can see in the graph above, CLG was 8th in April. There was that uproar.
2015-11-05 20:19
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#90
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Australia BCP
considering they were #15th before the major, they gained quite a bit. c9 is falling anyway, sooner or later LG will pass them if they keep up with their current form.
2015-11-03 20:55
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#202
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Brazil markkrj
"Luminosity gain three spots..." 15-3=9 Nice math
2015-11-03 21:45
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#206
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Australia BCP
both are correct :P i compared them to last weeks ranking, stich compared them to last months ranking. last month they were #12, but since then they dropped to #15 a week ago. from this major they gained 6 spots, but overall this month they gained 3 :D
2015-11-03 21:48
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#258
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Brazil agoravai
Thanks, was having a hard time understanding that math haha
2015-11-03 22:39
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#105
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United States itzgin
All they've managed to do was beat teams in BO1's, when they can beat top teams in BO3's they'll move up.
2015-11-03 21:02
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#164
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Brazil agoravai
Delicious salty tears...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm xD~~
2015-11-03 21:24
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8 replies
#221
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United States Sychodrama
I don't catch any being sad or salty. He's just saying the truth. That is all they did.
2015-11-03 22:07
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#229
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Brazil agoravai
Damn, I was typing a big block of text here and realized u muricas will never accept it, no matter how good a rank is. So yeah, have it your way, C9 is still among the best in the world and LG is just a T2-T3 team who sometimes upset some bigger teams. There, feeling betta?
2015-11-03 22:15
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#247
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United States itzgin
I'll "accept it" when they can win a series, if they didn't have cold hard carrying vs the slumping C9, they wouldn't lost, plain and simple. All LG has done was win BO1's, when you can come back with something other "lol salty tears" I'll read all of it.
2015-11-03 22:25
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#248
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Brazil agoravai
I won't, got better things to do than teaching reality.
2015-11-03 22:26
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#251
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United States itzgin
There is no "won't," it's "can't," which is hilarious. All they can do is upset in BO1's, come back when they beat a top team in a BO3.
2015-11-03 22:29
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#295
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Brazil ReasonableNTCfan
how much?
2015-11-04 00:29
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#297
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Finland f0pZ
C9 cant even win those bo1 rofl..
2015-11-04 00:48
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#319
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United States Sychodrama
I happen to like LG. They play real well. I like cold alot and Boltz had come a long way. But they did what they did. Won 2 bo1. They went up 3 ranks. That's about what they deserve to me. C9 continues to fall. Deservedly so. Idk why you think I'm a hater cuz I'm not.
2015-11-04 04:34
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#184
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Norway Kekistani
+1
2015-11-03 21:37
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#257
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Brazil gigios
who should be above then?
2015-11-03 22:38
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#228
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Philippines nub_ayun
The points system has been explained and yes they're only good for number 9. The "other" teams that you're questioning are just riding on their past achievements and those points decay as days go by so they'd probably start dipping more in the standings and if LG can keep this up they'll go up. People gotta start looking at things objectively.
2015-11-03 22:14
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#249
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Brazil agoravai
Most don't quite understand how it works though..
2015-11-03 22:27
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#15
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United States joke_cs
Can we just all agree on this ranking as a whole community. Plz.
2015-11-03 20:40
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#63
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
i agree
2015-11-03 20:50
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#133
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Australia BCP
yes
2015-11-03 21:13
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#156
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United Kingdom Alth
Previous iterations of HLTV's rankings has been laughably inaccurate (not so much as ESL's, but that isn't hard). This one seems to be on the money for the most part though, but I wouldn't want to put my faith in it as a unanimous ranking.
2015-11-03 21:21
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#167
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Brazil agoravai
There is no such thing as unanimous ranking bro
2015-11-03 21:26
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#333
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United Kingdom Alth
True
2015-11-04 08:36
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#210
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Australia BCP
i think you found the previous versions inaccurate because you look at the rankings only rather than the points. you have to look at the points to see where teams stand compared to each other rather than the ranking which can be deceiving, when 4 teams are 6 points away from one another like titan liquid mouz and dignitas are right now for example. tldr - this ranking is about the points, not the placings.
2015-11-03 21:51
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#310
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hecker | 
World heck9r
Did you make this ranking?
2015-11-04 02:15
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2 replies
#349
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Belgium topeiko
He's the one who understand the best how it works, you can rely on him ;-)
2015-11-04 12:23
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#389
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hecker | 
World heck9r
Yeah I realized that, that's why I asked ;) Thanks for your reply tho!
2015-11-04 23:35
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#334
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United Kingdom Alth
See this is why I personally believe points based rankings are massively flawed. It becomes too much about the math, rather than common sense, and it can skew in favour of some teams. For example in the rankings released 2 weeks ago, nV were ranked 4th. Regardless of if they were one point away from third and two away from second, they should never have been ranked at 4th based on their plethora of recent achievements (before the major). Some of the bottom end of the ranking is a little silly too, I remember before Liquid even had that decent showing taking a map off fnatic at PGL(?) they were ranked far too high for their achievements, and the response I got was that they had a run of good form online recently. Another thing I hugely disagree with when it comes to ranking is putting stock into online results. In Liquids case, they face a far weaker field in NA compared to the t2 teams in EU for example, and online form rarely gives an indication of how a team will perform on lan in general if we go back through most teams in history.
2015-11-04 08:41
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#350
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Belgium topeiko
Liquid had a good "form" ranking with their online matches but the achievements came from PGL, ESWC or some other LANs were they qualified and took some maps to big teams. The force of the opponent is important to determine the form, if you look at the Liquid streak it was almost the same than TSM's one, but in term of score I think TSM was at 250 and Liquid barely at 100 And last, EnVy should have been better than 4th before the Major, the problem was their roster changes, thats was not that much points but as other teams was pretty consistent (every top 3 team had a moment of glory) EnVy weren't able to make enough achievements points in the 2-3 months of their new team
2015-11-04 12:28
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#352
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Australia BCP
envy were 4th not because they were less impressive than 3 other teams, but because they were basically a new team - having changed 2 players. they would almost certainly be ranked #1 a month ago if not for the lack of total results due to the lineup being almost new - since it only retained 60% of the points of the previous lineup. liquid were top12 at best, and that was when titan changed a third player in like 1 month - losing yet more points. below titan and liquid there wasnt really too many teams of note, and the teams ranked 8-13 were all within 20 points of each other iirc which can change very quickly based on 1 good or 1 bad result - as G2 has shown us this major. the online results barely count for anything in this ranking, and doing well solely based on online results is impossible - as efrag have been demonstrating to us. (pls efrag attend some more lan T_T). grinding online in NA is especially difficult, people seem to think liquid has it easy but they really dont. over a period of 2 weeks before the major liquid went 19-2 online and titan went 9-11 online, yet titan got more points - which really did shock me but it made me realize just how much more points you get from playing against teams who are relevant compared to tier3 NA teams. dont overestimate the online results - in total online counts to around 10% of a teams points, meaning if team B did 80% as good as team A online, and both had 200 points, then team A will have 220 points and team B will have 216 - its essentially meaningless. again, the ranking of a team only tells half the story, you should pay attention to the points more. a mathematical ranking is the only way to have your ranking be as unbiased as possible. for example i like thorin, i think his ranking is good, but i dont believe its completely unbiased - he does think higher of some teams than others, just like myself, and there is no way it doesnt at all affect his ranking. the maths behind this ranking are much more detailed than some people think, and for a mathematical ranking i think this is pretty much as good as it gets. you can always make small improvements to it, but it wont make that big of a difference when it comes to the outcome.
2015-11-04 12:49
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#17
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United States Iskus
Actually not that bad of a list tbh
2015-11-03 20:40
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#18
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Romania JeeFo
NiP + G2 could result in some interesting new team.
2015-11-03 20:40
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would rather having NIP + Fnatic or NIP + C9 shuffle seriously: shroud get_right skadoodle f0rest n0thing seangares (coach) looks so damn sick! and well g2 are doing great lately
2015-11-03 20:46
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#70
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United States shaDYNASTY
that would be a super interesting team but i feel like the chances of it happening are reeeaaaalllllyyyyyyyy low
2015-11-03 20:51
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#170
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Canada MoneyWorth
sherlock over here!!!
2015-11-03 21:27
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#135
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Faroe Islands xfyre101
n0thing is complete trash man...when will people stop dickriding this inconsistent pot head id have friberg over n0thing 10/10 times.
2015-11-03 21:14
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Kek
2015-11-03 20:40
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#20
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Andorra hltv_citizen
tsm xD 4ever semis, can only trashlans and online
2015-11-03 20:40
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#22
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Sweden darealmvp
good ranking
2015-11-03 20:41
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mad favelos inc
2015-11-03 20:41
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#83
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Brazil lizardporn
i am favela and i am mad
2015-11-03 20:53
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#180
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Brazil agoravai
i'm favela and I feel satisfied, ty
2015-11-03 21:32
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#240
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kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR
i'm a proud favela, wadap now sweeds?
2015-11-03 22:21
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#260
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Brazil agoravai
Woooooo
2015-11-03 22:42
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#24
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United Kingdom Gumpster
I like it :)
2015-11-03 20:41
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#25
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Israel HLTVAC
Like a hamburger advertisement, the reality is far from the appearance top kek
2015-11-03 20:41
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10 replies
#102
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United States tr1ckster
I read that too and started laughing. Sneaky editor slipping in a "burger" jab towards Americans
2015-11-03 20:59
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#110
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
I'm American as well so let's call it self-ironic :)
2015-11-03 21:03
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8 replies
#131
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World Heeze
now even admins are fake flagging :(
2015-11-03 21:13
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#136
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
well I also have Polish citizenship and speak Polish so technically it's correct. tough choice though, two of the most hated flags/nationalities on HLTV, which to pick I wonder?
2015-11-03 21:13
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6 replies
#151
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Australia BCP
NA flag, it has canada so its nice :] sorry
2015-11-03 21:20
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#154
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World Heeze
depends Do you prefer getting stuck in doors and having problems finding your dick or cleaning toilets? [Totally worth the ban. Guys dont forget me and write poems about my heroic actions, RiP]
2015-11-03 21:21
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3 replies
#182
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Brazil agoravai
Hahaha, i'll tell tales about u, go in peace
2015-11-03 21:34
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#351
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Sweden Dendow
The tale of Heeze! There ones were a man on a dangerous quest, his name was Heeze, HLTV his test. Fearless he went to the cave of the trolls, fearless he fought the ones without souls. Although one day, something had changed. He's now a troll, likely underaged That will explain, his actions upon. He flamed the Americans and Poles until dawn. And so came the day, when Heeze had to pay! The Admins said nay, and sent him away.
2015-11-04 12:47
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#353
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Sweden Dendow
Here's the tale told by a man with a bad speaking device: vocaroo.com/i/s1bX7dkqEqZ4
2015-11-04 12:51
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#217
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Morocco Rajl Mok
better show off your biceps than your burgers =DD
2015-11-03 22:06
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#26
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Spain Alser
CLG > mouz l m a o
2015-11-03 20:41
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#93
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Brazil Hyzek
LG are way better.
2015-11-03 20:56
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#100
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Spain Alser
I said CLG
2015-11-03 20:59
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7 replies
#140
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Faroe Islands xfyre101
CLG are way better
2015-11-03 21:15
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#183
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Brazil agoravai
He said LG
2015-11-03 21:35
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#294
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retrQ | 
United States retroquikz
definitely said LG, dumb spainards! jk ily messi all the way
2015-11-04 00:11
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4 replies
#332
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Finland Acoz
Messi and spain o.O
2015-11-04 08:23
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#392
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retrQ | 
United States retroquikz
messi has been playing in spain all his career :D
2015-11-05 00:15
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#343
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Brazil agoravai
-soccer +football bro
2015-11-04 11:41
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#391
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retrQ | 
United States retroquikz
i didnt say soccer :o
2015-11-05 00:14
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#155
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Australia BCP
unfortunately mouz have been massively underperforming in terms of expectations :/
2015-11-03 21:21
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#28
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World TaTaBaBa
Not bad
2015-11-03 20:41
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#31
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Scotland KRaZeY
C9 ahead of Titan, LG etc? I arent think that
2015-11-03 20:42
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#60
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Poland sajlent
CLoud9 reached 3 lan finals in last 3 months (ESWC, ESL ESEA Pro League and FACEIT)
2015-11-03 20:49
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#67
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Scotland KRaZeY
were these NA league finals?
2015-11-03 20:51
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8 replies
#85
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Poland sajlent
2015-11-03 20:54
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#94
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Scotland KRaZeY
2 of those are the same (xddd) ESWC was when they were still performing well so I can admit they deserved their rank at that point, DH Valencia matches were in July, almost 6 months ago.
2015-11-03 20:57
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#118
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United States FrenchStars
nice math, it was almost 4 months ago bro not 6. I do agree C9 don't deserve that rank though. Mouz>C9
2015-11-03 21:08
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#130
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Scotland KRaZeY
either way outwith the 3 months this guy was saying. But mouz would be > C9 if they werent so inconsistent tbh
2015-11-03 21:12
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#144
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United States FrenchStars
TBH if maikelele wasn't clutch god on mirage, mousesports would have went to quarters. They will forever be t2 though, until they move gob to coach. He is just horrible in game.
2015-11-03 21:17
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#157
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Scotland KRaZeY
yeah I agree with that. But if Mouz had gone to quarters and played vs TSM they would've been 16:5'd on both maps or something, G2 proved they are a really capable team.
2015-11-03 21:21
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#174
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United States FrenchStars
Well they would have had to face VP in quarters, and while I think VP have a 70-80% chance of 2-0'ing them I think mouz could have done it if they played really well. They have beaten VP on LAN before, back at Gfinity they won 2 bo3's and it was pretty amazing. G2 is just insane right now though, even if mouz made it to semis against envy they would have got annihilated
2015-11-03 21:28
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#367
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Poland sajlent
my bad hltv.org/?pageid=217&eventid=1753 here is 3rd final that's why they have so many points in this ranking :)
2015-11-04 16:37
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#355
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United States allnewluke
Cloud9 suck though they are losing games they should never lose
2015-11-04 12:53
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#68
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
LG and Titan have no results except major
2015-11-03 20:51
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#86
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Scotland KRaZeY
LG have been in 3 Majors (maybe 2 I cant remember) and as far as I can remember they did pretty well in each one, and proved they can take on the EU teams well. As for Titan, its a new lineup so we'll just have to see how things go I guess.
2015-11-03 20:54
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#120
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United States itzgin
All they've done is beat teams in BO1's, no BO3 wins.
2015-11-03 21:08
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#142
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Sweden Trojka03
Salty cuz NA can't make it out of groups.
2015-11-03 21:15
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#232
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United States itzgin
You can believe what you want, but all they've done is beat teams in BO1's.....no BO3's at all.
2015-11-03 22:18
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i thought majors were the thing teams should aim for? to perform well? maybe im mistaken...
2015-11-03 21:26
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#234
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
well other tournaments are worthless then? This is a points based system, for example you get 100 points for one tournament but other team got 50+30+25+5+10 and is ranked higher even when being worse in current form. c9 had great results few months ago even if they have dropped of now. Its hard to Rank LG when they participate in very few tournaments. even lost to CLG @ winout. But like its said in the article they have very busy month coming up with a chance to prove that they are a legit top team.
2015-11-03 22:23
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sure, we'll se... hope they show us that they are rly a top 10 team or even better
2015-11-04 02:03
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#32
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Faroe Islands zarathushtra
c9>lg ?
2015-11-03 20:42
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#64
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Canada pokz
im br but i agree cause this is about the whole year and c9 played better through the year
2015-11-03 20:50
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#243
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Brazil andS
"Once again, the ranking is based on teams' achievements over the past year (with severe decay in points throughout each month), recent form over the last 2 months, and performance at the last ten offline events."
2015-11-03 22:22
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#33
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United States DVNTY
n1
2015-11-03 20:42
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#35
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Slovenia ibeFiinder
Decent, decent.
2015-11-03 20:42
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The difference between 11th and 14th is five points. I don't know how responsive the ranking variables are to day-to-day noise, but if certain teams are within X (e.g., +/-5) points of one another, would it just be better to say they're tied for that rank?
2015-11-03 20:43
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#193
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Brazil agoravai
Prolly very responsive since there is plenty of leagues/tourneys ect. every month and the most recent results are weighed way more
2015-11-03 21:43
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#37
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Lebanon Lagger[]
stich I hope you haven't gave a secret HLTV job to that polski TOP RANKING guy
2015-11-03 20:43
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#38
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Sweden Marty_McFly
G2 > NiP
2015-11-03 20:43
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#42
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Germany TONI`
the ages of the players are really interesting, time flys away man... fox 29, freakazoid 28, n0thing 24? damn
2015-11-03 20:45
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#54
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
ages for c9 were apparently incorrect, fixed now
2015-11-03 20:46
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#43
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Brazil stazz
correct
2015-11-03 20:44
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#46
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United States Burnside
nice ranking
2015-11-03 20:44
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#48
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Xeno | 
Netherlands Xenoo
LG>TITAN>MOUZ>C9>CLG NT HLTV
2015-11-03 20:45
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#52
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United Kingdom BradleY
SICK FAM
2015-11-03 20:46
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#59
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Brazil Aniquilad0r
LG took 3 times top 8 in ESL and C9 is in front.
2015-11-03 20:48
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#74
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Finland Emvi
don't worry, c9 achievements during summer are fading away in the points, so lg will pass them in no time if the forms continue
2015-11-03 20:51
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#348
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Belgium topeiko
I like those kind of comments, if everybody could think the same way analyzing the ranking it would be awesome !
2015-11-04 12:17
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#204
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Sri Lanka King Ye
LG sucks
2015-11-03 21:46
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#212
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Norway coolguy123
C9 did get some results during the summer, but obviously LG will pass very soon unless C9 suddenly gets back into 2-0'ing fnatic and nV. Everyone knows LG is the best NA (SA) team, they'll climb the rankings very soon.
2015-11-03 21:59
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#62
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Canada sypia
wtf Schopenhauer it was Cerevoni I guess
2015-11-03 20:50
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2 replies
#196
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shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo
he has 2 surnames
2015-11-03 21:43
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1 reply
#269
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Canada sypia
okaayy tyy
2015-11-03 22:54
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#65
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Poland FyXoo
why cares?
2015-11-03 20:50
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#66
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coldzera | 
World 2pacShakeRr
G2Ever <3
2015-11-03 20:50
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#69
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Belarus dodgev
Fortune favours the bearded! Fc yeah!
2015-11-03 20:51
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#72
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Germany devast4tE
How exactly is CSGL with Immunity better than HR?
2015-11-03 20:51
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#82
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Finland Emvi
what exactly has hr done with their current roster? only ange1 and kucher have achieved anything with hr, so ofc its not gonna be here
2015-11-03 20:53
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#92
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Germany devast4tE
what exactly has CSGL done? they won some random polish lan rofl, HR at least plays faceit, cevo and other leagues
2015-11-03 20:56
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#104
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Finland Emvi
hltv.org/?pageid=188&teamid=6372&statsfi.. they have points from a lot longer time period, new hr has only been for about 1 month
2015-11-03 21:01
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#75
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Brazil danielsaan
c9 top 10 lmao
2015-11-03 20:52
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#78
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Sweden adjek
How can Dignitas be on this list?
2015-11-03 20:52
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4 replies
#99
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
tell just 1 team better
2015-11-03 20:59
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3 replies
#132
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Canada lHazard
CLG Red
2015-11-03 21:13
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2 replies
#145
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Faroe Islands xfyre101
truth
2015-11-03 21:17
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#152
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
top1
2015-11-03 21:20
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#87
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Reunion art expert
why is c9 still ahead of LG zzzz
2015-11-03 20:54
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#88
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Europe BandHannana
"Like a hamburger advertisement, the reality is far from the appearance" jesus i love you OP
2015-11-03 20:55
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#95
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United States SparksFX
C9 overrated, as well as Titan and NiP. These ranking hold way too much value in online matches and performances throughout the year, when in reality it should count at most the last 5 months. Also, "Like a hamburger"? Really? HLTV's writers are turning into the moronic commenters.
2015-11-03 20:58
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#107
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
there's nothing wrong with being a little cheeky in the photo captions, it helps with the visual appeal
2015-11-03 21:02
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#312
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hecker | 
World heck9r
I agree, there will always be haters for everything, keep up your own style, weather ppl like it or not nohomo
2015-11-04 02:22
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#165
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United States itzgin
Getting to those 2 finals (you said last 5 months) is more impressive than beating teams in BO1's, therefore C9 would still be ahead of LG.
2015-11-03 21:24
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#298
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United States SparksFX
Lol so there's no value to winning BO1s and BO3s and making semis but losing them consistently in groups also doesn't count? I tend to give more value to consistency.
2015-11-04 00:49
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#97
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
c9 top 8 top kek
2015-11-03 20:58
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LOL! envy is #1 now. i'll starting praying this very second if i were religious. we're close to the end boys! end of csgo pro scene oh but it's nice clg made top 10 :D
2015-11-03 21:01
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#101
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s1mple | 
Israel JezuSw0w
finally
2015-11-03 20:59
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#103
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Finland 2D&#361;S
This seems the best ranking there is atleast based on some format. and would b great if ppl understands how these rankings work....
2015-11-03 20:59
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#207
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Brazil agoravai
This, maybe the admin could put some links to basics statistics, how weights work, averages etc. Average kids on HLTV still have no clue how it works.
2015-11-03 21:49
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#106
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France nolimit900
good
2015-11-03 21:02
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#108
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Poland Mannix
Where is that french guy who kept making threads about updating ranking all day long? It's your moment of glory boy ;)
2015-11-03 21:03
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2 replies
#347
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Belgium topeiko
just above you ! :p
2015-11-04 12:15
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1 reply
#364
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Poland Mannix
yeah we wrote our comments at the same time hehe
2015-11-04 15:45
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#113
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JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ
2nd place is still to high for Team Shit on Majors
2015-11-03 21:05
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#115
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United States FrenchStars
Finally EnVy where they belong.
2015-11-03 21:06
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#116
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United States FrenchStars
Why is C9 ahead of LG? Why is C9 even in top 10 LOL
2015-11-03 21:06
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#117
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Poland trancemeister
all year ranking plz :-)
2015-11-03 21:07
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C9 is no8 lol
2015-11-03 21:09
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#123
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Italy  SilveR.
Pointselele
2015-11-03 21:09
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#124
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France godium
ez envy
2015-11-03 21:10
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#125
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Finland Habanos
Vexed lose all lan matches against top30 teams, gain points. Just hltv.org things. IMO dignitas and vexed are way too high on that list. One lucky upset against HR sky rockets vexed to top20, which I find ridiculous
2015-11-03 21:15
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#127
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Ukraine tolikowens NAVI
"After months of disappointing results, Na`Vi made an extremely deep playoff run at the Cluj major and reached their first major grand final ever." Not its not What about when Navi made it first NIP into the final in Sweeden
2015-11-03 21:11
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#128
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Other YH!one
Amazing read, thanks stich <3
2015-11-03 21:11
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#129
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Sweden Danzk1
G2 top 10, i leijk!
2015-11-03 21:11
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#134
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nEGRo | 
Greenland WhatANiceGuy
* Like a hamburger advertisement, the reality is far from the appearance * lmao
2015-11-03 21:13
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c9 top 8 ay lmao
2015-11-03 21:14
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#141
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Ukraine bia
Probably at the moment the best ranking
2015-11-03 21:15
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#149
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Brazil FalKsTSM
C9 in top 10? Aren't think that... PS: Device cold as ice with the #2 Rating? Hell Yeah
2015-11-03 21:19
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#189
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Australia BCP
as the writer said when talking about c9, they only hold a top10 spot because of what they achieved in the summer a bit over 3 months ago, and in a week or two the time decay should take away a further 20% or so of their current achievements' points, which would put them at 235 points - just 10 or so away from LG, something that one decent tournament from LG can put them in the lead. tldr - c9 are losing points really fast, dw
2015-11-03 21:40
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#150
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olya | 
United States fenomix
At least the old GOTFRAG rankings made sense...you literally got C9 above LG like how...? Eh whatever. C9+CLG shouldn't be Top 10. Move Titan and Dignitas up.
2015-11-03 21:20
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#177
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United States FrenchStars
LG>C9 but Dig aren't better than any of the top 3 NA teams lol.
2015-11-03 21:30
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not sure if trolling or trolling...
2015-11-04 13:23
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#153
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Sweden Trojka03
Hey stich! G2 are going to CEVO Season 8 LAN finals, they replaced HR. twitter.com/cevo/status/6568412311593328..
2015-11-03 21:20
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#160
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
actually since then, mouz replaced G2 hltv.org/news/16225-groups-for-cevo-fina..
2015-11-03 21:22
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#172
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Australia BCP
lol the tier2 teams lan dodging games are on point :D
2015-11-03 21:28
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#173
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Sweden Trojka03
Well, will you look at that, totally missed it. My bad :/ Was hoping to see more of G2 in action BibleThump
2015-11-03 21:28
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#159
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Russia AR4ER
omg HellRaisers where are you? ;) dno
2015-11-03 21:22
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#176
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Australia BCP
they did like 5 roster changes in last 2 months, its not the same team at all anymore
2015-11-03 21:29
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#331
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
new roster has no results except some online bo1, impossibru to rank them
2015-11-04 07:58
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#162
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France docking
swap C9 and LG and I agree with all of this
2015-11-03 21:23
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#175
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France Nogara
Beside majors, LG plays pretty poorly on other events and online matches.
2015-11-03 21:28
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#163
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Europe auguR
Kinda sucks that you include online, as well as the fact that teams win tournaments without other big teams there, for example, up until gfinity champion of champions last month, nV have never won an event which had fnatic in attendance.
2015-11-03 21:23
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#179
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Australia BCP
the online results are a very small percentage of the points, and the main focus of the points you get from each lan is what teams are attending (prize money, tournament format and tournament prestige are also factors, as well as a few other things).
2015-11-03 21:32
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#169
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Finland Baconguy
fnatic top3 wot
2015-11-03 21:27
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#171
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France Nogara
Ez baguette
2015-11-03 21:27
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obviously still gives way too much credit for online cs
2015-11-03 21:32
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#185
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World monzagrip
"miraculous semifinals run at DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca " Forgive me but when you know that two of their players have reached finals and semi finals in this game or 1.6, it doesn't seem miraculous to me.
2015-11-03 21:38
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#186
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North America oldshoe
god these rankings are bad
2015-11-03 21:39
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#187
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Poland Krisw8
Three Polish teams in top20! Very nice!
2015-11-03 21:40
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1 reply
#216
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Brazil agoravai
Congratz, u guys can deliver some headshots
2015-11-03 22:04
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#188
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qk-Mantis | 
Belgium gilisen
Finally
2015-11-03 21:40
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#190
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Albania rainycsgo
Never. 1.Fnatic 2.Virtus Pro 3.ENVY 4.NiP 5.TSM 6.Na Vi . . . . .
2015-11-03 21:42
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3 replies
0.5/10
2015-11-04 13:28
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2 replies
#388
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Albania rainycsgo
i dont give a shit about your comment man this is my rating and no one can change it from my mind
2015-11-04 23:30
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1 reply
You clearly give a shit since you replied... Still 0.5 /10
2015-11-05 00:06
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LG>C9
2015-11-03 21:42
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#194
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United States Cipherr
-Na'vi + Flamie and Guardian
2015-11-03 21:43
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#197
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Delpan | 
United States FEJSPALM
flipsid3 has 3 support players KAPPA
2015-11-03 21:44
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#198
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shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo
how come this isn't reflected in the team ranking on the left of the website?
2015-11-03 21:44
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#223
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
technical issues, it'll be updated tomorrow
2015-11-03 22:09
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#259
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shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo
is this website getting a makeover anytime soon? its still running on code like a decade old.
2015-11-03 22:41
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#200
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Canada favelab0y
Impressive rating by Cold Guardian n1 confirmed
2015-11-03 21:45
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#218
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Brazil agoravai
Yeah, I was surprised by that too. Cold is beasting, and Guardian...god damn, he IS the beast.
2015-11-03 22:06
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#201
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Sweden Warpt
1. how is clg top 10??? why are they ahead of titan, dignitas and mouse, all better teams? 2. where is hellraisers? they have been doing realy well lately, and while they havent had great performances offline, they have been great online, and should at least take a top 20 spot, over csgl, f3 or immunity
2015-11-03 21:45
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#245
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Germany HOFF1
probably because the system takes in online matches and the online leagues in NA really arent stacked. Also they appartently almost won the bo3 against NaVi without getting to 10 rounds on any of the maps NaVi won Kappa
2015-11-03 22:24
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#203
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Europe westo
country ranking: 1-2. Poland, USA (3 teams in top20) 3-6. France, Sweeden, Denmark, Australia (2) ...
2015-11-03 21:46
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#208
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Slovenia Badm0n
"scientist"
2015-11-03 21:49
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#209
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Belgium topeiko
I laughed too ^^ But I have a Master in mathematics, that makes me a scientist I guess ..
2015-11-03 21:51
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7 replies
#211
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Slovenia Badm0n
A scientist in cs go? Sounds good to me.
2015-11-03 21:52
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#220
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HObbit | 
Sweden kroneckersdelta
cool... in my last year studying a bachelor in maths, you are into statistics i guess?
2015-11-03 22:06
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4 replies
#230
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Belgium topeiko
Nope, education. I'm a math teacher after all these years studying theoretical mathematics, good luck man !! ;-)
2015-11-03 22:16
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3 replies
#244
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
do you troll students if they are lower ranked than you?
2015-11-03 22:22
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2 replies
#246
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Belgium topeiko
I'm unranked.. I don't play CS! Only analyzing it ;-)
2015-11-03 22:25
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1 reply
#276
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Spain BetterCallHeisenberg
Reported.
2015-11-03 23:15
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#224
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Morocco Rajl Mok
you told me i had an almost perfect prediction of the new ranking in an other thread, that's makes almost a scientist =D
2015-11-03 22:10
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#213
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United Kingdom Bravid
Cloud 9 -> 15th place LG -> 14th place CLG -> 16th place. EnVyUs > NiP > Na'Vi > VP > G2 > Fnatic EU being eco friendly by putting that NA trash in the dumpster... ;)
2015-11-03 21:59
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2 replies
#287
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Canada favelab0y
plz translate
2015-11-03 23:58
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1 reply
#335
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United Kingdom Bravid
cyka blyat
2015-11-04 08:47
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#215
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Portugal dascouves
Points-elele
2015-11-03 22:03
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#222
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Ukraine ermac_0
Cloud9 8 wtf ! Kappa
2015-11-03 22:07
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#227
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United States Rivitur
That titanfall reference... Plz!
2015-11-03 22:13
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#231
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Finland thaizntgoud
VP>NIP AHAHHAHA
2015-11-03 22:16
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#300
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Australia BCP
how can you justify nip being ranked above vp based on results of 1 major when vp won multiple tournaments in last few months and nip won none?
2015-11-04 01:09
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#236
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Bulgaria FrostNixon
titan same result as mouz, yet titan +4 mouz -3. hltvLogic
2015-11-03 22:20
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#268
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Australia BCP
this ranking is not just based on the major, its based on the teams performances over the last 3 months for the most part. look at the points - they are 3 points away from each other.
2015-11-03 22:52
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#252
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Sweden Dahlström
LUM would rip c9 to shreds
2015-11-03 22:30
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vexed > renegades
2015-11-03 22:37
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3 replies
#266
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Australia BCP
both teams are shit right now
2015-11-03 22:49
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#281
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JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ
Agree. Vexed qualified for 2 majors in a row
2015-11-03 23:40
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#340
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Australia kTw0
I'd love to see a match between them tbh
2015-11-04 09:52
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#272
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Finland RaptoRStillAlive
EnVy deserved top 1 atm
2015-11-03 22:58
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#278
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Finland ZoqFotPik
good list
2015-11-03 23:22
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#280
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World Wasdlk
Stitch, are you going to do an article on how the teams has performed when it comes to winning money? After all that's what matters.
2015-11-03 23:36
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#292
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World Wasdlk
Stich :D Name reminds me of lilo and stitch ^_^
2015-11-04 00:04
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#318
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
Good point, I'll try and find time to do an update, maybe an end of autumn one ^^
2015-11-04 04:20
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#282
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Panama kunft
CLOWN9 TOP8 LMAO literally retarded ranking
2015-11-03 23:41
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#284
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Germany RyseN
Oh maj gahd, I love you stich <3
2015-11-03 23:47
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#285
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France Jameeesss
People should really start to read the whole post to understand it. It's not a 2015 ranking. Of course Fnatic will be top 1 in 2015. They would be even if they stopped playing till the end of the year. If you wanna take time to wright, you might as well take the time to read
2015-11-03 23:48
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#289
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Belgium topeiko
I'm happy to see some smart comments, indeed fnatic is #1 in a no decay ranking over this year.
2015-11-03 23:59
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#286
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Brazil 7elip
LG is to be congratulated. Months ago they were not even professional players and now are top 10. Nice!!!
2015-11-03 23:50
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#321
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kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR
+1 Most of people when talking about LG and brazilian csgo forget the fact that this is our debut year into the competitive international csgo scene. I think next year we can reach top4 and get even a relevant title.
2015-11-04 04:59
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#291
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France cedd
C9 doesnt deserve top 10 at all LMAO. essentially switch LG and c9's spots and its pretty accurate. also, clg better than titan, mousesports ? i arent think that
2015-11-04 00:04
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#306
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United States itzgin
So by your logic BO1's > BO3's? great, another idiot in this thread. If you talk about current form, then I agree, C9 is in a huge slump and LG played out of their minds this major, mainly cold. Then they got pooped on by a not-so-great Na'Vi in a (oh look, surprise!) BO3. They're the king of BO1 upsets, I wonder if that will ever change?
2015-11-04 01:53
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#308
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kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
pooped = 16-14 16-13 kkk
2015-11-04 02:08
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4 replies
#309
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United States itzgin
Them losing 0-2 x10000th time, kkkkkkk. Sorry, shouldn't have said pooped on, still another BO3 loss to, like I said, a not-so-great Na'Vi, at least in their BO3 vs LG.
2015-11-04 02:12
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3 replies
#358
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Canada favelab0y
Navi trashed Nip dude, wtf r u talkin about?
2015-11-04 13:13
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2 replies
#372
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United States itzgin
I never said they didn't play great vs NiP, I said LG lost 2-0 to a not-so-great Na'Vi, because they didn't play that well vs LG.
2015-11-04 18:10
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#376
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Canada favelab0y
or Just LG played good?
2015-11-04 18:44
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#326
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France cedd
you're clueless. cloud9 has never performed at a major since hiko left the team, and even then it was under coL. LG has played 3 majors, made quarter finals twice. oh, and they raped cloud9 this major. both of their maps against navi were close. so gtfo kid
2015-11-04 06:19
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#329
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United States itzgin
BO1 upset kings, congrats. Come back when they beat a top 10 team in a series.
2015-11-04 07:30
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#344
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Brazil agoravai
Actually 3 majors and 3 quarter finals
2015-11-04 11:53
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#301
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Ex6TenZ | 
Finland eebro
How is tsm #2? Damn. That should change after next LAN.
2015-11-04 01:26
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#375
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France Ben8957
Maybe because they fail every majors while nV was in final two times and won the last ?
2015-11-04 18:43
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#386
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Ex6TenZ | 
Finland eebro
Uhm............. They stayed the same in the ranking when Fnatic dropped 2 places, when they had the same result on Major
2015-11-04 20:54
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#400
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France Ben8957
Oh, you meant 2nd is too high for TSM ? Then ok
2015-11-07 12:52
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#401
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Belgium topeiko
Read fnatic and TSM paragraph and you'll perhaps understand.. But after this CEVO tournament there is perhaps a new #2 ? don't know yet :)
2015-11-09 01:48
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#305
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United States Nigz
CLG and C9 in top 10? I arent think that
2015-11-04 01:47
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#314
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Brazil iROG3R
lg>c9 liquid>c9 clg>c9 all>c9
2015-11-04 02:24
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CLG over titan and mouz... lmfao what kind of drugs are you on fam? hook me up.
2015-11-04 04:55
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#325
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Vietnam Kyoshin
For fnatic or TSM fans, calm your tits down. This is a MONTH ranking, not for the whole year. Ofcourse fnatic will be top 1 of this year, even if they drop out from all kind of tournaments
2015-11-04 05:58
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#327
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United States The_Strang3r
I'm a C9 fanboi and even I think this is ridiculous. They shouldn't even be top 15.
2015-11-04 07:04
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#328
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Austria benji789
how can CLG be on 10?? they have not archived more then Titan, Mouz or Dignitas
2015-11-04 07:15
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#336
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Uzbekistan upgradeftw
wtf clown9 8? hltv clown9 fanboy confirmed?
2015-11-04 09:11
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#339
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Germany mogh
i agree till top 7, after that it's a little weird. c9 isn't 8, and titan and mouz are better than clg i would rate clg like dignitas and titan over mouz 8. luminosity, 9. titan 10. c9 11.mouz ( also really close match against g2 in cluj) 12. clg 13. dignitas 14.liquid 15.flipside
2015-11-04 09:40
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#341
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North America knee_Grow
l0l
2015-11-04 10:15
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#345
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Denmark KNJ
TSM Will take spot nr. 1 in November
2015-11-04 11:54
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#346
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India RrOuTe_FoRcE
Is there any pro player ranking too ???? Anywhere at all, on or off Hltv ???
2015-11-04 12:01
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#356
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Bosnia and Herzegovina trezlicius
Like a hamburger advertisement, the reality is far from the appearance
2015-11-04 12:59
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people still arent able to realize that this ranking is based on achievments... the thing that c9 is before lg is pretty obvious.what exactly did lg achieve? they advanced from group stage at cluj where they werent able to win single bo3 and thats it i guess. they are in better shape,they play better than c9 without any doubt(in another words they are better team) but that still doesnt mean that they should be ranked higher
2015-11-04 13:38
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#377
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Canada favelab0y
Well what has c9 achieved so far? not that much too
2015-11-04 18:47
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3x in the final on lan with EU teams is still more impressive than what lg achieved... Like i said, lg is better team atm, no doubt about that but they shouldnt be ranked higher than them for now
2015-11-04 18:58
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#362
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Bulgaria FlameThroweR
E-frag nice !
2015-11-04 14:18
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#363
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Russia shinjitsu
CSGL #19? LMAO WTF I don't believe it.
2015-11-04 14:33
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#365
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Norway Humanp
LG is better than C9 .... jesus
2015-11-04 15:50
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#366
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KARMY | 
Finland Kahvipollo
Why is Clown9 even on the list :D
2015-11-04 16:02
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#368
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Russia velzie22
Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer watafak I thought his last name Cervoni @ google translate 2k15
2015-11-04 16:47
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2 replies
#369
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World jnz1337
Kk
2015-11-04 17:25
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1 reply
#374
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Russia velzie22
Kk
2015-11-04 18:37
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#381
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Czech Republic m0nty_jAcK
this ranking is a total joke
2015-11-04 19:05
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#382
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Belgium topeiko
2015-11-04 19:11
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