CS 1.6 update coming soon

22-10-2008 02:11

New CS 1.6 update with consequences for your demo collection.

As some of you might have noticed Valve has been running a beta for an update version of CS 1.6, what exactly the new features will be we are not yet aware of, we however do believe it includes more community features, and an attempt to eliminate silent running using duck jump, but the most notable change, and the reason for this heads up is that the protocol of CS will be changed from 47 to 48.

Most of you probably have no idea why this protocol change matters, but it means that ALL old demos will stop working, yes that is right, all 4500 demos in the HLTV.org demosection, all the demos you have saved over the past years, they will not play. So make sure to get those movies made as soon as possible, rumors has it the update will be released sometime this week.

We have been trying to find a way to make old demos work in the new version, but until now we have not been able to get anywhere. We will keep at it, but it is doubtful they will ever work in the new version.

The good news are that we have been working closely with Valve to make sure HLTV smoothly made the transition to the new version, and from our last tests HLTV should work just as before when the new update goes live.

Too bad( But nobody cancelled non-steam version with old protocol)

2008-10-22 02:16

1 reply

True :)

2008-10-22 10:36

2008-10-22 02:24

Why is Valve working together with company's or websites ?. They have to ask the user/cs player what they want... after that, they can start changing things.

2008-10-22 02:34

3 replies

What do you mean? I sent them a few bug reports, and they got fixed so HLTV would work in the new update, I don't see anything wrong with that..

2008-10-22 02:35

2 replies

I presume he meant to say that when working with companies or websites these will focus to make work what they are interested in, f.e. HLTV in case of HLTV.org, but maybe not taking into account or stressing to be fixed "general player aspects" ;)

2008-10-22 14:56

demos still work :P

2008-10-23 02:58

i love it how they come back 5 years later and roll in with an update that will not only be hated by the majority but will also make cs much slower and more boring. sleeping in seattle(?), obviously not wide awake at least.

2008-10-22 02:40

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yeah man, that will fuck many ppl

2008-10-22 04:09

i think there is a tool already out :) able also to play 1.5 with 1.6 installed

2008-10-22 02:47

a total stupidity. they should put more efforts in make an efficient anti-cheat and not waste time changing things that not need be changed.

2008-10-22 02:50

CSE or col 1.6 should work :P

2008-10-22 02:59

It's so stupid to make updates without listening the community needs... There are so much improvements to do before removing the silentduck trick. - flash bugs fix + prevent players to see under boxes/walls - update VAC - fix silent bomb - fix silencer + switch bug - make 16bits smokes same as 32bits - fix alt tab cl_righthand changing - fix HLTV to sometimes not being able to show the Picture-In-Picture (due to sv_restart command) - and there are a lot of other more important improvement than remove silentrun. And instead of removing silentrun, they should add a command like sv_silentrun 0/1 to allow it or not.

2008-10-22 03:04

21 replies

very nice, agree 100%

2008-10-22 03:48

very nice, agree 100%

2008-10-22 04:07

really great comment

2008-10-22 06:12

nice list, why aren't you in valve?)

2008-10-22 08:55

nice coment sap for president xD

2008-10-22 11:13

really nice list of updates, waiting for improvements ..

2008-10-22 11:42

1 reply

but your info is not a reliable information

2008-10-22 13:12

- flash bugs fix + prevent players to see under boxes/walls These are map bugs - make 16bits smokes same as 32bits If you understood what the actual 16bit and 32bit stood for, You wouldn't make this comment. Instead you should be saying "Remove 16bit" - fix HLTV to sometimes not being able to show the Picture-In-Picture (due to sv_restart command) This may be a HLTV issue, not a CS issue? - And instead of removing silentrun, they should add a command like sv_silentrun 0/1 to allow it or not. It's already done.. it's called cl_footsteps

2008-10-22 12:32

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That's not the silent run we are talking about.. This silent run concerns duck " hopping " so you get an unregular sound of footsteps, like an enemy on distance.

2008-10-22 12:55

Agree :) sap for president... GO GO GO !!!!!

2008-10-22 12:45

nice one :)) btw, we'll be able to play the old demos in old 1.6 version lol .. Use non-steam :))

2008-10-22 13:10

Send that in an email to valve!

2008-10-22 15:09

:) Your right, send a e-mail to valve, GOGOGOG

2008-10-22 16:13

there are already fixed flash bug maps, but they aren't used in tournaments, maybe cuz they're not oficial

2008-10-22 17:48

minor bugs too..... :) good comm dude

2008-10-22 18:51

really agree with you... someone actually posted your post in the steamforums, I REALLY HOPE that they'll at least do the sv_silentrun 1/0 thing..

2008-10-22 22:15

very nice, agree 100%

2008-10-22 22:41

I just replied because many people are replying to you. I didn't want to be out of it!

2008-10-22 23:45

I am glad there trying to stop the silent run, it adds nothing to the game.

2008-10-23 04:41

Maybe one of the best comments ever. All of that is so true.

2008-10-23 16:28

best! verry nice dude

2008-10-23 18:54

bad :S

2008-10-22 03:32

sv_CRYFACE 1 :'(

2008-10-22 03:38

jeeeeeeeze.... anyone knows a single person who really NEEDS this update ?! Silent run fix, ffs, omg... honestly, I had better opinion about Valve...

2008-10-22 04:44

this update will sucks, they really need to put efforts in anti-cheat updates, or somethings like that... like lurppis said, the game will be so f*ckin slow.. if cbble sometimes is slow with slient run, imagine without!

2008-10-22 04:56

Omg, i dont need this update no tnx, #9 !!

2008-10-22 07:04

Oh my f*cking GOD!! Iv been collecting demo's for atleast half a year cause the computer im sitting with is dog shit at movie making..And I was waiting until I was finished studying so I could get home to my "Real computer" Ahh man this will crush me :/

2008-10-22 07:28

omg 2bad ;{

2008-10-22 08:15

What i am worried about, is that they won't remove the silent run, but simply remove doubleduck! And that would suck, because it would be bad for climbing :6

2008-10-22 08:25

rofl i have more than 5 giga of POV now i will need to instat a non-steam vs to rewach again :(:( plus as #9 say its a loot more updates to be done then changing the protocol :( pls make all smokes 32 :X:X:X:x

2008-10-22 09:34

but there is the complexity demoviewer , that even plays 1.3 demos maybe its still possible with that ?

2008-10-22 09:41

2 replies

Where ? cant find it on google.

2008-10-22 15:06

1 reply

lacomplexity.thecgs.com/index.php?s=news.. but you need to register to download it so download here files.filefront.com/coldemoplayer+instal..

2008-10-22 21:47

gl VALVe,come on guys there isn't any problem with that,if you have a loat of demos on your HDD,it won't be hard to instal Cs 1.6 No-Steam and watch the demos :).

2008-10-22 09:42

and 1 question,i'll be able to connect from the No-steam version to watch the matches from the upcoming tournaments live?or i'll have to watch it from Steam?

2008-10-22 09:44

After this update, i cant watch my in eye demos, and cant make a movie? Or this update to respect only for the HLTV demos? Im afraid about it. I dont know what is the problem with the demos. Thx the answer.

2008-10-22 09:49

Omg that sucks, i have lots of demos :o I hope #25 is right or something.

2008-10-22 10:02

There probably will be illegal ways to install the old protocolled version of cs but they won't be on HLTV I guess because of their legal issue.

2008-10-22 10:16

this is a problem for CARE POLICE ^^

2008-10-22 10:19

it's easy to install nonsteam :/ you can use it to spectate live HLTVs, aswell as viewing old demos =)

2008-10-22 10:47

no silent run :D now they have to eliminate the cheaters :D bad news at the demo i have to made my movie soon as possible :X

2008-10-22 10:50

like #25 said, its good to see that valve is still working on 1.6 and it is good update :)

2008-10-22 10:50

Silentrun on ctrl should allways be aloud.. :) - on scroll i dont care about.. just disable it ;D

2008-10-22 10:59

like said above, instead of not allowing duckjump handle with all the kiddie cheaters first & update your crappy VAC bullshit valve doesnt realy care about what the players want they just think about more money etc... with all the bullshit games you can buy these days on steam... VALVE SUCKS BIG TIME<=== they should have never have taken 1.5 offline wankers my 2 cents peace out

2008-10-22 11:18

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haha agreed :D

2008-10-22 12:10

I think I speak for alot of ppl when that quite a few words come to mind that i would like to tell the directors at valve =) !"#!"¤!"¤!"¤!"¤!"¤!"¤!"#!"##¤"¤"#¤

2008-10-22 11:36

maybe it will be nice~。~

2008-10-22 11:38

just wait and see ,dont speak bad about valve be happy they update 1.6 and dont let it die so everybody goes source

2008-10-22 11:57

Couldn't valve give you any leads on how to make old demos compatible with new version? For god's sake that should have been their job -.-

2008-10-22 11:59

#9 absolutely true :>

2008-10-22 12:16

Valve didn't care about the cs-players ... they think about making more money ... that's sad What #9 sap says should be done first ...

2008-10-22 12:29

#9 FTW! I hope that many more people know what exactly 1.6 needs like u. #Nomad, is this information right ? proly yea, but seems crazy to believe that they will do "just" update after everyone knows Valve good enough.....

2008-10-22 12:42

Nomad, so there's no chance to change the protocol of demos to 48?

2008-10-22 12:45

Tooooooooooo Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

2008-10-22 12:56

well instal the non steam version and u will have ur demos...

2008-10-22 12:59

is that the one called"Counter strike steamworks beta" in ur steam game list?

2008-10-22 13:01

#9 !

2008-10-22 13:02

i hope they will also fix hltv slowmotion bug if nomad gave them some bug reports...

2008-10-22 13:26

So.. after the big update release there will not be anymore the normal 1.6 in our Games list? It's ok to fix silent running but I saw something about: when you play, on your score display it will show your community nickname and your picture. I hope that will not be realised because I don't want to enter to their community site from the "In game" option and change the nick from there, this will take me 8689423+ years. I want to change the name from console... :| I think there's no rush for people who make CS 1.6 (the version that is used at the moment) movies because they can play them with 1.6 nonsteam. :)

2008-10-22 14:00

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Your absolutely right. They will install the friends/community nickname and picture in to the score display, just as in Team Fortress 2. Myself I think its bullshit, but remember VALVe is a big company, and money is very important. Making people use the community, other companies will pay big 'buffs' to advertise, just as in the Steam loading screen before entering a server. You said it lurppis, they have been sleeping in Seattle...

2008-10-22 14:43

good to see updates on cs1.6

2008-10-22 14:00

What exactly will change with new protocol except old demos won't work ?

2008-10-22 14:07

#61 rite said .

2008-10-22 14:45

Comment on the topic but please no "Valve this Valve that" comments. Thank you.

2008-10-22 14:58

use non-steam to watch old demos. That should work

2008-10-22 15:05

so, changing the protocol will cause death of every 1.6 server in the world. i just cant believe that. what i do believe is major lost of people playing counter-strike. it is what it's like to update a game after several years of doing nothing with it. its gonna be a huge failure, that's how i see it.

2008-10-22 15:15

So lame..

2008-10-22 15:26

very nice, agree 100%

2008-10-22 15:47

silent run is a great thing. iam addicted to that because i use it every time and i didnt play with normal runnin since i learn the silent run. Removing it is very bad step from valve

2008-10-22 15:56

I've been waiting for this update for a long time. I really hate silentrunning.

2008-10-22 16:08

7 replies

you must really hate cs 1.6 then

2008-10-22 17:38

4 replies

And why is that? Silent running have nothing to do with CS 1.6 and is a abuse.

2008-10-23 12:46

3 replies

As said before, the game will become slower and even more boring for the non-player viwer

2008-10-23 20:14

2 replies

so you enjoy looking at people doing this?... :|

2008-10-24 13:33

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First of all, it looks cool lol second, I've died many times because of others duckjump, but I don't even get frustrated cuz I know that's part of the game. Without duckjump anyone could be a good aimer, just point & click right?

2008-10-24 19:48

yeah your prolly a noob that cant do the silent run or gets screwed by ppl that do silent run so i call NOOBIEEEE @ #73

2008-10-22 22:31

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Do you think before posting? :)

2008-10-23 12:46

Go fuck up source instead. They are halfway there on that game

2008-10-22 16:30

Well I think that most important question isn´t "Do they remove a silent run?" but "HOW they wanna remove a silent run?" There is still very big chance that something will fuck even more than now :-P

2008-10-22 16:35

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they already did remove it.. there is the beta, I played it.. you still can do the silent-run, but only in terms of the movement.. the sounds will be even more fucked up because they tried to put in some footsteps.. but it's not silent anymore :/ I really think that that update will make the bigger part of the community be angry... it isn't a but to use silentrun, it is a feature.. gg

2008-10-22 17:56

5 replies

But silentrunning still fucks the hitboxes, right :)?

2008-10-22 18:01

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IT DOESN'T fuck up the hitboxes, and it never did ;) it's just the one that shots at the silent-runner, that thinks that they are fucked up if he doesn't hit anything! the fact that you hit a silent-runner, where he actually isn't, is due to the ex_interp 0.1 relay ;) nothing to do with silentrun

2008-10-22 18:03

If its not a bug why are Valve removing it ?_?

2008-10-22 18:16

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because 30% of the community (mainly noobs and cheater who gof fU**ed by silentrun) flamed them... vavle doesn't seem to care about the actual scene, the pro-teams, and so on..

2008-10-22 19:35

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add "polish noobs" to that. unfortunately.

2008-10-22 20:31

silent bomb - agree flashbug fix - agree silent run fix - disagree maybe in future VALVE fix bhop O_o!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA :D

2008-10-22 19:54

MESSAGE TO STEAM: this update will fail thanks ...seriously though, the only reason people stayed with 1.6 instead of moving to source was because 1.6 was ORIGINAL. No need for change in my opinion.

2008-10-22 22:02

where's the source of this "info" ? =D

2008-10-22 22:20

It really sucks! Orginal 1.6 FTW!

2008-10-22 22:38

"and an attempt to eliminate silent running using duck jump" - Great... Just taking away a characteristic of 1.6. As a mate put it on vent "Just turning it into source with shitter graphics".

2008-10-22 22:39

So Valve finally update 1.6 out of the blue, getting rid of features that define the game, and yet they're still allowed to stick ads on maps which is against the ToS. Somebody just DDoS steampowered.com plz

2008-10-22 23:49

i think the silent run is gonna stay, cuz many companies and proclans do like this feature. so think positive, search for solutions and take constructive actions.

2008-10-23 00:42

this update is bullshit

2008-10-23 01:53

Relax. The only thing stopping demos from working with the Beta right now is the different game folder name - "cstrike_beta" rather than "cstrike". There's no reason the game folder won't be changed to "cstrike" once the game comes out of Beta. As for the network protocol: the number has been changed from 47 to 48, but the underlying protocol itself hasn't changed enough to be incompatible. Mismatched protocol numbers just give a warning in the console, it won't stop the demo from playing.

2008-10-23 01:54

random update after years, just what we need..

2008-10-23 02:12

my cs is all ready updated and i have some problems with protocols!

2008-10-23 02:19

yea, m2

2008-10-23 02:38

"This server is using an older protocol ( 47 ) than your client ( 48 ). If you believe this server is outdated, you can contact the server administrator at (no email address specified)." GGGRRRRRRRRRR!

2008-10-23 02:44

IT SUCKS !!!

2008-10-23 02:53

i can still view demos after this update :$?

2008-10-23 02:57

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HLTV Demos? If so i'd like to know how.. Hmm. seems they play with playdemo, but not viewdemo, it was stuck for a while though..

2008-10-23 03:04

its forced my interp and the scoreboard looks well guffy! and im getting that above error

2008-10-23 03:03

Okay, seems Valve did mess with it since the beta, it is very easy to port old HLTV demos to work with viewdemo on the new version, good work by Valve! :)

2008-10-23 03:06

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how nomad? :D:D got a whole folder of demos i need to convert lol

2008-10-23 06:23

And I can´t even change my ingame name.

2008-10-23 03:10

is it me or do you guys not notice any updates?

2008-10-23 03:11

Here is the way to convert your demos guys: files.filefront.com/CsDemoConverterexe/;.. einfo.html Creds to me! (Not, some guy at SK gaming :) )

2008-10-23 10:29

How should I update my hltv? for non-steam CS.

2008-10-23 11:07

This server is using an older protocol ( 47 ) than your client ( 48 ). If you believe this server is outdated, you can contact the server administrator at (no email address specified).!!?WTF??!?!

2008-10-23 11:16

This is just bullshit, valve go ruin source, since you have started it already. Listen to the community instead, and stop thinking about yourselves all the time. Who wants to see other people's avatars on the scoreboard? Do as #9 said. You're just gonna lose players this way.

2008-10-23 15:00

Silent walk works for me just fine - so it does for the other guy with whom I've tested it.

2008-10-23 15:04

sv_iwantoldcs 10000000

2008-10-23 15:51

Im gonna kick valves ass!

2008-10-23 15:53

BULLSHIT ! Thay screw up with cs...

2008-10-23 15:55

from were 2 download this update..???

2008-10-23 15:56

1 reply

CS will update through Steam ;)

2008-10-23 16:26

#9 i agree totaly nice man but 16bit only can be removed becose 16 bit is not CS PROBLEM... write 16 or 32 bit in gooogle and read about it ... Still 1 problem... that silentrun ... i tryed and saw that i can do it with scrool wtf :S ? remove scrool and leave CTRL .... if they remove CTRL that will be BIG MISTAKE!!!

2008-10-23 16:17

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You will still be able to do silentrun but now it will, or at least it is supposed, not "hide" the sound of running as previously ;)

2008-10-23 16:29

2 replies

So far it has worked for me the way it did before.

2008-10-23 16:30

1 reply

That is why i said "or at least it is supposed" ;)

2008-10-23 16:43

exec "facepalm.jpg" cl_valvefail 1 Quit

2008-10-23 16:30

GO MYM!!!! ; D

2008-10-23 16:43

its good that valve cares about cs BUT they should test the updates before put it out

2008-10-23 17:23

Gooooooooooo mouz

2008-10-23 18:59

I couldn't agree more with sap. 16 bit mode should be totally removed! Silent run must be fixed as it ruins the game. I support sap 100% with the comments about preventing players to see under boxes and fixing silencers and flash bugs. Maybe if we just keep quoting that comment, Valve would consider it.

2008-10-24 15:52

FUCK VALVE 1) HLTV FROM HLTV.ORG DOESN'T ENTER GAME 2) LAGS 3) 100 CL_UPDATERATE FROM 101 NORMAL oO 4) HLSW CAN'T CONTROL SERWER ANY MORE!! 5) BEAUTIFUL PHOTOS NEAR NICK NAMES? I DON'T NEED IT !!!!!!!! valve this time you owned 99% of players -.- they change game to sims because now cs sux

2008-10-24 19:58