Pro League wildcards up for vote

2-8-2016 18:00

ESL has announced that the final two Pro League spots will be determined by community vote and a subsequent decider match in each region.

With Season 4 of the ESL Pro League due to start on August 17, there are still two slots - one per division - up for grabs, which will be filled by wildcard teams.

Instead of issuing invites like it did last season, when FaZe and Renegades took the final spots in the league, ESL has revealed that the last two teams will be determined by community vote, with four sides in the running per division. The two teams with the most votes will then battle it out in a best-of-three decider match.

Virtus.pro could get a spot back in Pro League

ELEAGUE champions Virtus.pro, who were demoted to the Premier division after losing a relegation match against PENTA, could be getting a redemption vote and stay in the Pro League if they pass the vote and then better either Gambit, GODSENT and ENCE for the final spot.

In North America, it will be Luminosity's new team, ECS Season 1 finals surprise package TSM, Echo Fox and Kaliber vying for the wildcard spot.

Europe	North America
Virtus.pro	TSM
Gambit	Echo Fox
GODSENT	Kaliber
ENCE	Luminosity

Fans can vote for their favorite teams by heading over to ESL's website, where voting will stay open until Monday, August 8, at 20:00 , while the dates of the decider matches are still undetermined.

nice ez for ence

2016-08-02 18:05

3 replies

ez for VP in EU vote. Don't know what I'd vote for US, all the teams are trash.

2016-08-02 18:09

2 replies

Kaliber cuz ODEAG KKona

2016-08-02 18:10

TSM is decent

2016-08-02 18:20

haha it was obvious vp is gonna be in there...

2016-08-02 18:05

EZ 4 ENCE professional eSports organization ENCE E-sports containing of AWPer Aleksi "Allu" Jalli, ingame leader Niko "naSu" Kovanen, rifler Miikka "suNny" Kemppi, allround player Juho "Juhob" Lampinen & the mad fragger Mikko "Xarte" Välimaa from the finnish eSports organization ENCE e-sports from the nordic country Finland

2016-08-02 18:07

1 reply

V O T E 4 M E M E S #EZ4ENCE

2016-08-02 18:16

2016-08-02 18:04

nmice

2016-08-02 18:04

Gingers have no souls.

2016-08-02 18:05

nice

2016-08-02 18:05

Voted for VP and TSM. Pretty much everyone should, they're the clear best teams on both sides.

2016-08-02 18:14

6 replies

Disagree looking at VPs online performance Godsent would be best in eu

2016-08-02 18:23

3 replies

Godsent ain't better online. ^^

2016-08-02 18:35

Godsent is terrible online as well

2016-08-02 18:36

+1 godsent and tsm

2016-08-02 20:18

1st time ever you have opportunity to actually make it EZ for ENCE and this guy here ^ fails to do it.

2016-08-02 18:38

same

2016-08-02 22:18

2016-08-02 18:05

lel

2016-08-02 18:04

lol

2016-08-02 18:04

FAK

2016-08-02 18:05

ez4 ence

2016-08-02 18:05

ez for ence

2016-08-02 18:05

ez ENCE

2016-08-02 18:05

virtus premier LUL

2016-08-02 18:05

srsly

2016-08-02 18:05

EZ 4 LG.......SK....

2016-08-02 18:05

ez 4 ence

2016-08-02 18:05

ez4ence?

2016-08-02 18:05

So VP basically gets their spot back

2016-08-02 18:05

3 replies

They are the only good team on the list.

2016-08-02 18:12

2 replies

they don't deserve it at all... gambit deserve it way more, maybe even godsent. vp have been seen as a top invite team for their whole GO careers, whereas if gambit, godsent or ENCE got a chance to prove themselves it would be way more fair. obviously VP will win because of all the polaks...

2016-08-03 00:02

1 reply

This is only for the best teams and VP just won a big tournament, so yes they do deserve it even if last season says otherwise

2016-08-03 01:42

EZ ENCE

2016-08-02 18:05

ez for ence

2016-08-02 18:05

What a joke. After idk how many loses from vp, they still have a chance to participate in the league. First win premier vp...

2016-08-02 18:05

3 replies

That would be retarded to not offert a chance for VP to requalify considering their récent results (ESL Cologne and EL) Also, who could they invite other than VP? It's already ridiculous to think that ENCE could get a spot in the Pro League, since they've been shit since the beginning and barely played on international LAN (they had a minor and DHS)

2016-08-02 20:04

2 replies

So league A is now league B? Sorry but vp got a whole season to win more than 6 matches, then at final the league got extended and they only needed to win ONE match and they failed. Then they created a tourney so they got another chance. They got 2 chances there and at the end they failed to win from penta. At final, they also decline the premier spot because they're too good for that... Sorry but if they had played a season in premier, I was okay with it but this is just pure shit for other teams. Whatever happens, vp will stay in the league because esl wants that

2016-08-02 20:08

1 reply

+1. I like VP. I wanna see them in Pro League. But they don't deserved it one bit this time around.

2016-08-02 22:13

vote? rofl thats the most retarded shit i've ever seen at least i can bot the shit out of this vote

2016-08-02 18:05

10 replies

"vote? rofl thats the most retarded shit i've ever seen" brasilian democracy in a nutshell

2016-08-02 18:30

9 replies

? popularity contest =/= best team you fucking retard kill yourself

2016-08-02 18:31

7 replies

is that how u choose ur politics? deathmatch?

2016-08-02 18:46

6 replies

was that supposed to be a funny reply? is this finnish humour?

2016-08-02 18:49

3 replies

sry, it was kinda bad (((((

2016-08-02 18:49

1 reply

but close to reality just look at the social state of rio and the housing politics etc. but i mean this is their pattern since 1998 or so

2016-08-02 18:57

thesun.co.uk/news/1509670/shrewd-rio-dru.. Nice.

2016-08-03 18:14

thanks for the lulz

2016-08-02 21:33

hahhahahahhahah

2016-08-02 22:36

Well, just pretend if everyone vote ENCE as a best team in the world without winning any Majors...

2016-08-03 05:49

its so dumb that VP gets a 2nd chance.

2016-08-02 18:05

4 replies

It's not only VP, there are 7 teams more. And looking from viewers side, VP is the best option.

2016-08-02 18:52

3 replies

WHAT??? So it's like previous season of EPL didn't even happen for VP. Finnishing last place and losing relegation match (to fuckin PENTA!!!) should be punishing. Some teams like Echo Fox atleast won Premier. If Flipsid3 would've finnished last, they might've still been among these 8 teams to vote for, but they wouldn't get the wildcard, because they don't have whole Poland voting for them.

2016-08-02 19:55

2 replies

2016-08-02 20:44

1 reply

2016-08-02 21:45

If VP gets back their spot back i'm fucking done.

2016-08-02 18:06

all vote ence

2016-08-02 18:06

Vote for ENCE and EchoFox

2016-08-02 18:06

VP shouldn't get free spot, would be unfair to GODSENT. Also TSM should get wild card over EF and Luminosity, but the favelas might overwhelm voting;/

2016-08-02 18:06

Vote like this is retarded, virtus premier doesnt deserve spot unless they actually play for it...

2016-08-02 18:06

8 replies

2016-08-02 18:11

2016-08-02 18:20

But the other teams that havent done shit deserves?

2016-08-02 18:22

3 replies

Well, could have had teams who did best in premier play this qualifier and then some wild card teams who in general have done best like vp and godsent instead of retarded vote which might result way too ez chance for team who refused to play lower league. If it would be proper qualifier at least it would be fair enough if they win it but now it seems stupid someone just can do whatever and still might get easy spot xD....

2016-08-02 18:28

1 reply

Yeah i read more about the stuff, the top2 gets to play a decider match to get the wildcard spot. But i kinda agree when i see the teams like Godsent and Gambit. Maybe a round-robin for seeding then a bo3 decider format.

2016-08-02 18:39

They are in based on ESEA Premier and other ESL tournament success so they have done shit to deserve this place.

2016-08-03 00:21

+1 fuck ESL always trying to save VP

2016-08-02 18:44

lol VP did play for it... and lost vs PENTA, twice. In terms of the pro League itself the do not deserve the spot.

2016-08-02 18:51

Vote ENCE

2016-08-02 18:06

is this serious not the best team wins but the most popular one WHAT ?

2016-08-02 18:06

4 replies

In this case best and most popular are the same..

2016-08-02 18:13

3 replies

lul ez ence

2016-08-02 19:08

In a hypothetical world, let's say if Man U wins the UEFA CL but gets relegated from the EPL, do they get their EPL spot back? No. Because they are relegated and thats it. If you want to earn a spot, you have to prove it. VP had so many bites on the apple and yet failed to retain the Pro League spot. Do you think that it is fair to other teams that VP just get reinvited to Pro League due to a popularity contest?

2016-08-03 00:41

1 reply

no, and I voted Godsent don't give a shit about online joke matches, and VP players don't give a shit more than me.. It's just the VP org and ESL that wants them to play there for prestige and views, pretty sure they have some deal... however if they dont qualify I don't think even VP org can make NEO and TaZ play retarded premier

2016-08-03 01:18

ez4ence

2016-08-02 18:06

what is luminosity's lineup?

2016-08-02 18:07

1 reply

old winout lineup destiny bit nak yeL PKL

2016-08-02 18:26

> "In the process of picking the eight teams for the voting we have taken recent success, overall team strength, the world rankings and the ESEA League system into consideration." Outside of some rinky dink CEVO tournaments, what has Luminosity's success been? I smell bullshiiiiiiit.

2016-08-02 18:07

5 replies

losing against Team Rival

2016-08-02 18:42

4 replies

I watched that match last night, and it's not like they're even clear-cut to win ESEA-Main anymore. There are plenty of other teams who fit ESL's criteria and are just as accomplished as LG/WinOut. Which is why I'm calling bullsheet. Which is fine, but atleast be honest ;)

2016-08-02 18:46

3 replies

Well its hard to win ESEA-Main without your full roster.

2016-08-02 18:46

2 replies

They're allowed to use their full five in the playoffs. It was only during the regular season they had to use AGM and Jacobson.

2016-08-02 18:53

1 reply

Didnt know that. Thanks best (serious) HLTV user!

2016-08-02 18:49

voted for VP and TSM. :)

2016-08-02 18:07

carmac is a good polak

2016-08-02 18:08

VOTE FOR VP

2016-08-02 18:08

This is for Virtus.Premier

2016-08-02 18:08

EU - Probably be VP. NA - Probably either Echo Fox or TSM.

2016-08-02 18:08

thats why vp is high ranked with a lot of points, cause they are almost winning every tournament literally without enemies.. vp are not that good in t1, but compared against this teames they are actually god tier

2016-08-02 18:09

2 replies

So the recent eleague win was without enemies? K then

2016-08-02 18:17

1 reply

i said ALMOST, u cant read?

2016-08-02 19:01

TSM and ENCE guys! Make Virtus go to Premier!

2016-08-02 18:09

3 replies

2016-08-02 18:35

You know VP will win right?

2016-08-02 19:23

1 reply

That doesnt mean I cant want them to lose.

2016-08-02 22:30

Oh come on, VP wildcard is such a joke.

2016-08-02 18:09

this process of adding a new team into the league is not only lazy, but completely bullshit. there should be an offline qualifier for the next pro league season which is decided by BO3 series.

2016-08-02 18:09

Lets go ENCE!

2016-08-02 18:09

Voting for ENCE

2016-08-02 18:09

ez4ence

2016-08-02 18:09

ence and tsm boys CMON LETS GET ENCE IN PRO LEAGUE

2016-08-02 18:10

VP / LG :)

2016-08-02 18:10

1 reply

same here... i feel bad for TSM... lol

2016-08-02 19:43

ENCE in Pro League xD Also they should fucking play for the spots, retarded how now there's probably no chance for a team like Gambit

2016-08-02 18:10

1 reply

Yea it is rly dumb, why not just play instead of stupid vote where meme team might even win and get to final instead of better team...

2016-08-02 18:13

it doesnt matter what the vote results will be, they will pick VP anyways...

2016-08-02 18:11

GODSENT & Echo Fox gogogo

2016-08-02 18:11

ez 4 ence

2016-08-02 18:12

By vote? Well that's retarded.

2016-08-02 18:13

voted for vp and echo fox

2016-08-02 18:13

It's gonna be VP vs ENCE in EU and likely Echo Fox vs either TSM or Luminosity, i would favour VP to return and Echo Fox to make it to PL

2016-08-02 18:13

VP deserves the spot in theory. But seriously, I can't imagine a team that should have attended Premier League could stay in Pro League just by boycotting the lower level league.

2016-08-02 18:15

Wont vote for Virtus.premier thats for sure.

2016-08-02 18:17

2 replies

DEN I VONT VOTE FOR GAMBIT

2016-08-02 18:43

Yeah I like VP but won't vote for them as this is incredibly unfair

2016-08-02 22:22

This is a joke.

2016-08-02 18:17

I hope tsm wins, but maybe lot of brazillians will vote for new lg :/ I want to see how tsm fare against na's best

2016-08-02 18:17

1 reply

I vote VP and TSM my friend :D

2016-08-02 18:18

VP plz

2016-08-02 18:17

vote for VP and TSM!!:)))

2016-08-02 18:17

What a joke, whats the point of a relegation system if VP are just going to be promoted back to pro league without even playing premier. It should at least be an online qualifier, which is much more fair and less of a popularity contest.

2016-08-02 18:17

2 replies

Well there is qualifier but it is 2 most popular teams who play which is dumb, why not make proper qualifier, best teams of premier + some wc ?___? Could even play it all like in one day if they rly want...

2016-08-02 18:19

1 reply

> Could even play it all like in one day if they rly want... Which would cost ESL money and VP would still easily win. What's the point?

2016-08-02 18:41

vote for WESA.VP so they can play the next season of WESA.ESL

2016-08-02 18:18

EZ4ENCE

2016-08-02 18:18

lol

2016-08-02 18:19

expected carmac would put VP in again

2016-08-02 18:19

Ez for VP and TSM... I wanna vote on LG but TSM really deserved that spot.

2016-08-02 18:19

Ence and TSM, lets GO

2016-08-02 18:19

EZ4ENCE kKona

2016-08-02 18:20

GODSENT and TSM

2016-08-02 18:20

2016-08-02 18:21

Vamos guys, vamos da essa vaga pros mlk da LG eles merecem, tão se didicando mt ao game

2016-08-02 18:21

ENCE and TSM :-)

2016-08-02 18:21

Godsent and EchoFox is most interesting. But think TSM and VP is getting in! :)

2016-08-02 18:22

1o1 How to get away with not inviting Virtus.Pro (aka shitstorm in the community) but still get them to stay in Pro League. Nice one ESL you think community is that dumb LOL

2016-08-02 18:22

3 replies

the community is that dumb lol

2016-08-02 18:24

2 replies

sad but true :( Voted for Godsent btw

2016-08-02 18:29

+1 (IQ)

2016-08-02 22:26

VP and TSM

2016-08-02 18:23

ez4ence

2016-08-02 18:24

hard trying to get vp back in esl pro league

2016-08-02 18:24

Ence + Echo Fox pls

2016-08-02 18:24

If the EU vote goes to any other team than VP, ESL will change the League to more teams and continue with whatever random ideas they can come up until they're in.

2016-08-02 18:25

bot teams

2016-08-02 18:27

GODSENT + LG

2016-08-02 18:28

The two teams with the most votes will then battle it out in a best-of-three decider match. ROFL VP-ENCE and Luminosity - Echo Fox I hope VP and LG will get the spots...others would be just a waste

2016-08-02 18:28

1 reply

VP don't deserve the spot, shoudlve been relegated and lost relegation match to penta, they shouldn't even have a chance.

2016-08-04 03:25

Ayyyy they done it again found a way to keep a team in pro that shouldn't be. At this point i don't understand the point of the demotion system if you don't get demoted for losing :D

2016-08-02 18:29

GUYS ALL VOTE FOR ENCE, DANK MEME

2016-08-02 18:29

ez for ence

2016-08-02 18:29

1 reply

well I just voted for vp and lg instead of ence and echofox :(

2016-08-02 18:37

VP and LG

2016-08-02 18:31

VP and LG <3

2016-08-02 18:32

I hope godsent don't get the vote, they are the least deserving team outta those 4 :D

2016-08-02 18:32

ENCE 4 EZ!!!!!!

2016-08-02 18:33

VP and LG <3

2016-08-02 18:33

Okay so whenever a decent and popular is in a slump and it doesn't manage to stay in division 1, they'll just get a free run through the Wildcard tournament.

2016-08-02 18:34

EZ 4 ENCE

2016-08-02 18:35

This is a joke. Most of these teams dont even deserve a nomination and are just favorites by the community. EU: -VP: VP dont deserve it because THEY LOST THE LAST SEASON. They even lost a bo3 against PENTA. Why should you invite them back to the pro league if they are shit in it? -ENCE: Really? You would invite a team because of a meme? They have no achievement/results at all. GODSENT and Gambit are ok. NA: -Luminosity: This team doesnt have any achievements/results either. Sadly all the SK/Immortals fanboys will vote for LG because they are brasillian as well. They arent even good against NA teams. They just lost yesterday a bo3 against Team Rival. -Echo Fox: This team will also get many votes by NA fans (especially (former) Cloud9 fans). They at least have something: a win on Dust 2 against Na'Vi and are #1 in ESEA Premier but this team still dont deserve the place. -Team Kaliber: OCEANs team doesnt deserve it as well but they wont get many votes anyway. Only TSM deserves it.

2016-08-02 18:35

17 replies

so true, especially the one from Lumi.

2016-08-02 18:37

Epsilon or Team X deserved more than ENCE tbh.

2016-08-02 18:38

8 replies

2016-08-02 18:39

1 reply

ence has won godsent almost every time they played against each other D:

2016-08-02 22:51

pretty sure team x is in pro league already

2016-08-02 18:41

1 reply

wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/ESL_ES.. they are

2016-08-02 18:51

Team X is already in the Pro League though. You're right about Epsilon

2016-08-02 19:48

3 replies

How? ENCE have beaten Epsilon all the time, how would they not deserve it before Epsilon? lol

2016-08-03 00:23

2 replies

Online head to head doesn't mean shit. Epsilon won a $100,000 LAN tournament 2 weeks ago, ENCE goes out in groups in every tournament

2016-08-03 00:56

1 reply

Lel won a tier 100 Chinese tournament that just happened to have a big price pool.

2016-08-05 01:35

ence>gambit,godsent

2016-08-02 19:20

They lost to Germans Online. Onliners is the best word to describe whole german cs community. VP gained a crown pf best european team and U want them out ? How stupid are you? You want quickes on ence or other shit teams or prefer clashes of titans?

2016-08-02 19:45

4 replies

They didnt only lost against PENTA. They lost against Pro League teams 18/22 times. They were LAST behind teams like F3 or SK in the last season. If you would have read everything you would also know that I dont want ENCE in it. Why am I even replying to you? You wont read/understand it anyway.

2016-08-02 19:49

2 replies

Dude they didnt give a shit about this league the moment they lost chance to get to LAN. Cant blame them actually. Can we?

2016-08-02 20:42

1 reply

uhm yes? They could, like every team, try to not get demoted to premier. They didnt try it. Why should they now get invited to pro again?

2016-08-02 20:47

>Losing to penta >Top 10 Pick one

2016-08-03 05:57

This so much.

2016-08-02 22:30

A team which gets demoted should never be invited to be promoted again lol. Nice logic ESL.

2016-08-02 18:36

Godsent - VP and TSM - Echo Fox I hope TSM and Godsent make it :D

2016-08-02 18:36

This is retarded, what's the point of playing premier if Echo Fox has to depend on a community vote. Whats the idea behind being a shit online team like Virtus Pro and still getting back into the league for fuck all.

2016-08-02 18:37

2 replies

2016-08-02 19:18

They need to stick to a proper relegation system. Top two of Premier in, bottom two of PL out. Third place decider BO3. Or along those lines.

2016-08-02 22:32

www.strawpoll.me/10896685

2016-08-02 18:37

godsent and ence just for the lols

2016-08-02 18:38

EZ4ENCE

2016-08-02 18:38

EZ4ENCE

2016-08-02 18:38

ez 4 ence

2016-08-02 18:40

Virtus.Premier is getting so many chances, this is so fucked. They lost the league and should play premier, it's as easy as that

2016-08-02 18:41

BETTER BE ENCE OR I RIOT

2016-08-02 18:43

VP and TSM

2016-08-02 18:44

Why not Kinguin? Kinguin > Ence, Gambit, Godsent

2016-08-02 18:45

could be getting a redemption vote and stay in the Pro League if they pass the vote and then better either Gambit, GODSENT and ENCE for the final spot. beat*** not better just :)

2016-08-02 18:46

1 reply

To be fair 'better' works in this context too

2016-08-02 22:34

ez 4 ence

2016-08-02 18:51

I think it's stupid that the top 2 from NA will probably be Luminosity and TSM. It will be such an easy win for TSM + the Luminosity roster is only on the list to make favelas dicks hard. They haven't accomplished anything as a core lineup, infact I'd say EF has done more. Also to add on, they're only doing this so that way they can add back VP without getting any negative press from it. Fucking clowns.

2016-08-02 18:52

I'd vote for Virtus.Pro and Echo Fox, but thanks to their registration system I won't and I don't really care.

2016-08-02 18:56

2 replies

You do not have ESL account? Omg, u new.

2016-08-02 19:11

1 reply

I do have an account but I forgot the password and that account is linked to Steam account that I sold many years ago, I contacted ESL support but they refused to remove that link from that account, so I don't really want to use that account at all. Ofc I can create a new one, but to do it just to participate in a single vote is a bit too much, I visit esl site like 1 time per year at best, so I don't need any accounts there.

2016-08-02 19:25

VP and TSM

2016-08-02 18:57

VOTE ENCE

2016-08-02 19:00

Guys, don't worry. VP will get most votes and then lose the online bo3. :)

2016-08-02 19:00

1 reply

lul ? Ence win this eZ

2016-08-02 19:13

LETS GO ENCE

2016-08-02 19:02

VP/Godsent and Echo Fox/TSM?!

2016-08-02 19:03

Ez for ence

2016-08-02 19:08

VP and Echo Fox :P

2016-08-02 19:10

Let's go BRAZIL! We can do it! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!

2016-08-02 19:11

3 replies

1-2 against Team Rival

2016-08-03 05:42

2 replies

Hello groupStage!

2016-08-03 06:15

1 reply

Hello 23-24th!

2016-08-03 06:29

VP are the best team but fairly lost their place. Should have to fight their way back in. Gambit are a LAN team. Ence are obviously top 1 so it wouldn't be fair for other teams to compete against them. Would like to see how Godsent do. TSM should get the NA spot.

2016-08-02 19:12

VOTE 4 EZ ENCE

2016-08-02 19:13

ENCE ENCE ENCE

2016-08-02 19:14

CMON HLTV LETS DO THIS LETS GET ENCE TO EPL BECAUSE ITS SO GODDAMN FUCKING EASY FOR THEM

2016-08-02 19:20

made an esl account just to vote for ence and some random na team

2016-08-02 19:21

Unbelieviable. Vp gets another chance to stay in the pro league. Bullshit biased esl. Why the fuck are relegation playoffs anyway if they dont relegate teams?

2016-08-02 19:33

vp shouldnt have another chance. they failed to win vs penta in a bo3 decider anyway and they were the worst in epl last season.

2016-08-02 19:39

Ex efrag GOT FUCKING ROBBED THEY FINISHED 1ST in division and same as ence in playoffs. It's cuz we're from BULGARIA It's point less to even have a main or premier if you can just leap frog those divisions and go straight to Pro division just because someone likes you. Why the fuck is LG there they haven't done shit, they gotta prove themselves not all Brazilian teams are good. Echofox sit on 1st place in premier so why vote for them when they're gnna get a slot in pro regardless? Why waste a vote on them? Bravado move to NA to get a pro spot :) Plz don't vote for VP those fucks lost fair and square.

2016-08-02 19:41

Go ENCE and Echo Fox!!

2016-08-02 19:40

ENCE PLZ

2016-08-02 19:40

They shouldve let those four teams play each other, the winner gets the spot, not by the vote

2016-08-02 19:42

ENCE

2016-08-02 19:42

VOTE FOR ENCE

2016-08-02 19:44

i feel bad for TSM... but i think everybody will vote for LG (in NA) and VP (EU)... :|

2016-08-02 19:45

1 reply

same... LG is a shit team

2016-08-02 19:59

ez4ence

2016-08-02 19:49

ez for VP and LG

2016-08-02 19:52

2 replies

Ez if they actually play,knowing this community,they will fucking vote for ENCE ,coz the ez4ence meme

2016-08-02 19:55

1 reply

nah... hltv just say ''ez4ence'' but will vote no VP for sure

2016-08-02 19:57

VP do not deserve it...dont vote for them please

2016-08-02 19:54

5 replies

They deserve it more than any of those teams, stop the butt-hurt pls.

2016-08-02 20:11

4 replies

no they dont.. last place + lost to penta in relegation.. fuck off fanboy

2016-08-02 20:14

3 replies

This was months ago. It would be silly if there was a ESL Pro League now without the nr3 team. And just to remind you, right after their loss to Penta there were rumor that they could recieve the WildCard, just like this.

2016-08-02 20:16

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So tanking in the league and in your 2nd chance that when given fucked another team over, they fucked that up too and still they deserve to get in? Makes no sense what so ever. If you want the best teams then sure they should be there but by no chance do they DESERVE to be there.

2016-08-03 00:27

1 reply

+1111111111111111..... .......111111111111111111111

2016-08-03 14:37

Hope people dont fucking trollvote for ENCE. This aint a joke lol.

2016-08-02 19:54

I really hope Brazilians aren't voting for LG just because they're Brazilians, or because they think it's a good team (SK)

2016-08-02 19:55

10 replies

thank ma frend, i voted in VP and LG xD

2016-08-02 20:11

2 replies

rip this is why community votes suck

2016-08-02 20:17

1 reply

yes, community votes suck, should not exist

2016-08-02 20:26

I really hope polish aren't voting for VP just because they're polish, or because they think it's a good team

2016-08-02 21:44

6 replies

There's some key differences there Mr. Dumb Favela VP is better than all 3 of the other options whereas 2/3 NA options are better than LG Everyone knows that VP is VP, but some people will probably think that LG is the roster that won a major nt favela

2016-08-02 21:47

5 replies

There's some key differences there Mr. Dumb Toilet Cleaner VP ALREADY FKING LOST

2016-08-02 22:30

2 replies

Great relevance bro Very smart favela boy

2016-08-02 22:32

1 reply

Yeah, I know it's relevant, I'm happy that we can agree on that, I guess that makes you a smart person too

2016-08-02 22:39

gtfo hypocrite. "hey, let me be a lazy prick and not actually get any work done on my job because I know the boss will just fire someone else"

2016-08-03 04:09

1 reply

You actually are a moron I never said that this wild card system is good, but if we're voting for the best team then VP is the most qualified

2016-08-03 05:08

Europe: ENCE and NA: TSM

2016-08-02 19:56

BTW you poles shouldn't vote for VP, they may be top 2 on LAN but they are barely even top 15 online... and Brazilians please, jut please don't vote for Luminosity, they lost to the shittiest NA team.

2016-08-02 19:58

haha GODSENT? ENCE? it's a joke

2016-08-02 19:59

Voted GODSENT and TSM. VP were given so many chances. First they go 4-18 in the league and were going to be instantly relegated. Then ESL changes the rules so that they play a relegation match vs PENTA and VP also lose that. Then ESL changes the rules fucking again to give VP a third chance in a popularity contest FFS.

2016-08-02 20:03

2 replies

Even ENCE deserves more that spot than fucking GODSENT lmao

2016-08-02 23:12

seriously, how the fuck is this even fair?

2016-08-03 04:07

can we please just vote in echo fox and ence for the lulz

2016-08-02 20:03

should be easy for lumi xD

2016-08-02 20:05

ENCE

2016-08-02 20:06

esl desperate to have vp back...

2016-08-02 20:08

vote Favelanosity Monkeyming

2016-08-02 20:09

Im happy for Vp but at the same time this is unfair for cs scene but anyway lets go VPKURWAA

2016-08-02 20:18

I'm going for VP and LG.

2016-08-02 20:21

Why VP? They lost to PENTA LUL

2016-08-02 20:32

1 reply

+1 PENTA is total dogshit team still dont know how VP could lose to them LMAO

2016-08-03 00:04

I think Gambit deserves it, and TSM deserves it.

2016-08-02 20:32

3 replies

+1 I agree with both choices. Don't mind GODAENT or EF either though.

2016-08-02 22:41

2 replies

Yeah I wouldn't mind if Godsent or EF got it either. But would definently like to see these 4 teams in regulation matches.

2016-08-03 03:44

Unfortunately though everyone will probably vote for VP, and all of the brazillians will vote for luminocity. Really don't want to see either of these teams get it.

2016-08-03 03:48

EZ 4 ENCE and LG

2016-08-02 20:33

dont vote for vp ffs

2016-08-02 20:36

1 reply

pasha has near 800k facebook fans, he will made post BOOOOM! +vp

2016-08-02 20:50

voted vp + echo fox

2016-08-02 20:47

VOTED: EZ 4 ENCE & LG I am afraid though that swedistanians and toilet cleaners are going to vote their teams.

2016-08-02 20:51

echofox and gambit

2016-08-02 20:56

ENCE x VP LG x TSM Ez ENCE and LG

2016-08-02 21:13

EZ ENCE

2016-08-02 21:22

obv VP

2016-08-02 21:24

i like VP,but they should not get a invite. They play the last esea season and they got last place,they should play 1 year in premier.To me this is cheat competition..

2016-08-02 21:48

VP for EU and Echo fox for NA

2016-08-02 21:44

EVERYONE VOTE FOR ENCE!

2016-08-02 21:47

LG and VP cancer .......

2016-08-02 21:48

US Want: EchoFox & TSM Teams Actually Going: TSM and EchoFox/TK EU Want: VP and Godsent Teams Actually Going: VP/unless ENCE fukbois take over and Gambit

2016-08-02 21:49

#VoteForENCE

2016-08-02 21:58

Ence does not deserve that spot but hltv troll army is voting them. I go with godsent.

2016-08-02 22:14

ESL JOKE #voteforENCE

2016-08-02 22:16

EZ FOR ENCE EZ FOR KALIBER

2016-08-02 22:30

it was obvious vp will play again in esl pro lol

2016-08-02 22:38

are immortals in esl pl?

2016-08-02 23:11

TSM deserve it more than Luminosity

2016-08-02 23:38

Lol VP Announce that they will not attend ESL Premier League and whipsy-woop there is a community vote for the last 2 spots?? WTF? Has it always been like this?

2016-08-02 23:50

10 replies

nope it changed right after VP said they'll not play in Premier.

2016-08-03 00:20

6 replies

not right after i suppose, but are you trolling or not? I don't know this

2016-08-03 02:16

5 replies

Well not literally seconds after but like few weeks or so. ESL cant miss two seasons without having top Polish team in EPL.

2016-08-03 12:16

4 replies

THIS MAKES ME PUKE WTF?!?! So they literally change the way because VP said that they will not attend Premier so they feel like they would lose a top org?? WTF?!?!?!? IT SHOULDNT EVEN BE A VOTE TO BEGIN WITH, IT SHOULD BE SIMPLE BO3's ALL THE WAY. SO FUCKING HARD to understand that.

2016-08-03 12:20

3 replies

There was 1 last spot up for grabs and ESL decides whom to invite,and instead of inviting VP back,they decided to do this ? Atleast the others have a chance now?

2016-08-03 12:47

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Expected from <3 NEO but usually the winner of Premier gets their spot at Pro League, now ESL changed it just because VP was not in Premier and had no chance to go through from there. The winner of Premier should go on BO3 against the last of EPL in a relegation match (that is what happened before and Virtus.Premier lost the relegation match against PENTA) And then the wild card spot should be filled by playing not by a fucking popularity contest. It's obvious there is no chance for teams likes of ENCE to get in EPL (not that they belong to there, they suck LOL) because Finlands CS:GO scene is like 10k people and like 1k of them even knows what ESL is. And they are supposed to have a popularity contest over teams from Poland / Sweden / Russia. Yeah, no way.

2016-08-03 14:47

yup. but now VP only has to win 1 BO3 and they are known to be bad onliners :>

2016-08-03 14:43

ESEA pulled some similar bullshit with another Premier team a season or two ago, where they didn't allow them into the top division, even though they won Premier. reason: "best interests"

2016-08-03 04:06

2 replies

It was that bulgarian team and dr3am3r had a VAC ban history. They had been informed that they cannot qualify to ESL pro league even if they win.

2016-08-03 14:11

1 reply

no, it was an NA team. denial, I think. they wanted to keep a more known org in ESEA's top division.

2016-08-04 01:23

ENCE X VP LG X TSM EZ 4 ENCE LG WIN, LGLOYAL

2016-08-02 23:58

1 reply

LG are shit.. They lost to team rival in a bo3

2016-08-03 01:50

Retarded, VP doesn't deserve to play in this league. They are good now but they sucked hard in the previous season. This has no sense at all.

2016-08-03 00:04

2 replies

Nice logic, online leagues hardly account for how 'good' a team is, it's fucking online ffs, use your brain

2016-08-03 03:12

1 reply

Then why should they get invited back to an online league?

2016-08-03 05:43

VOTE 4 ENCE

2016-08-03 00:13

ez 4 ence EleGiggle

2016-08-03 00:20

So when i go 0-20 i drop out of premier to main but if vp lose 20 in a rowit means nothing? Are you fucking serious? A democracy? There will never be any new teams...the league is the qualifier. Not after the league is finished.

2016-08-03 00:35

I love VP but they don't even deserve it, my votes goes to ENCE

2016-08-03 00:36

vote for GODSENT and tK for daddy Odeag KKona

2016-08-03 01:19

NA Echo fox vs TSM , TSM in esl pro league,EU VP vs GODSENT= VP in esl pro league , wp

2016-08-03 01:53

Pls don't vote for VP, they had their chance and lost it against Penta. They don't deserve it

2016-08-03 01:56

1 reply

i agree :)

2016-08-03 02:56

Who is on luminosity new team?

2016-08-03 02:11

1 reply

tier 5 favellas, not worth voting

2016-08-03 02:53

EZ ENCE

2016-08-03 02:15

EZ 4 GODSENT

2016-08-03 02:55

S G A R E S B O Y S

2016-08-03 03:10

Hence boys let's make it happen

2016-08-03 03:37

EZ GODSENT and EchoFox

2016-08-03 03:55

VP dont deserve that wildcard

2016-08-03 03:56

this is so retarded, lmfao. how is this good for the game at all? seriously, what the fuck is this, source?

2016-08-03 04:05

If LG get the wildcard, i'm going to kill myself

2016-08-03 04:11

Lol, so it's okay for a team to get demoted because they pretty much sucked every single game and then they will be handed a spot again? I just hope VPremier loses the bo3 again, lol.

2016-08-03 04:45

guys pls, the VP fukkbois dont deserve it, they got shit on by penta to get relegated, vote for mr allu and ence

2016-08-03 05:25

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Yeah that's the only reason I didn't vote for VP, they lost fair and square and deserve to be in premier for a season :P

2016-08-03 09:43

gogo vote Luminosity plssssssssss

2016-08-03 06:20

E N C E N C E

2016-08-03 07:29

gambit and lg =)

2016-08-03 08:44

I did VP because they are one of the original best teams and Echofox because it has all my favorite players =)

2016-08-03 08:46

Voted for Ence & LG!

2016-08-03 10:56

Its ESL, expected. And they are trying to create monopoly

2016-08-03 11:09

VP obviously best team but they don't deserve an invite what the fuck, that's like two football teams being relegated and the league being "oh my bad dawg, lets have a fan vote to determine which team stays in". Fuck that, Virtus Premier take that loss.

2016-08-03 11:56

EZ VOTE 4 ENCE

2016-08-03 12:33

1 team aint getting the wildcard,you gotta play a bo3 for it. Why are people saying VP dont deserve the wildcard,they have to play and win the bo3 to get it lol.

2016-08-03 12:44

Ence xD

2016-08-03 13:19

errr Epsilon? only team everyone wants to see.

2016-08-03 13:42

Could ESL favorite VP a little bit more? First VP loses almost every game in Pro league. Second ESL changes the pro league rules to support 14 teams so VP gets a chance to qualify straight away. (they lose miserably to PENTA) And this as a third... Lets take 3 small EU orgs and put them againts one of the biggest. That sounds so damn fair.

2016-08-03 14:10

Lose 95% of all matches Supposed to be relegated to premier Gets a second chance in a BO3 against Penta shitsports Loses the BO3 GETS A THIRD CHANCE BY A FANVOTING Inb4 they lose the BO3 against the team the fans voted to play Inb4 they get a direct invite..

2016-08-03 14:42

The worst thing about this is that VP as a team is getting hate for this, sure they had their chances and all but its imo mainly ESL that doesnt want VP go coz of viewer numbers and promotion of having VP there. But hey lets be a cancerous community and blame the players.

2016-08-03 14:42

5 replies

That is a side-effect because ESL is playing favourites and recreates the rules at their whim.

2016-08-03 14:44

4 replies

Not really the players fault though, people shouldnt be hating on VP no matter of ESL decision. I dont like what happend but lets be real, nothing in the world is ever fair, and rest of the EU teams on that list deserve the spot as much as VP, meaning they just dont.

2016-08-03 14:46

3 replies

Yup, its not the players fault. Anyone with some brain capacity should realise that.

2016-08-03 14:48

2 replies

And then you check the comments on reddit and this thread and see all the hate, I guess I havent been reading hltv too much lately and forgot how retarded people on this website are ^^

2016-08-03 14:52

1 reply

well as I said, you need brain capacity :>

2016-08-03 14:53

ENCE FTW

2016-08-03 14:55

Don't be stupid (sorry for people voting for another team) guys, vote for TSM. They are clearly the stronger team (in those 4) and are a Tier 2/3 team when playing to their best. Basically number 3 USA after Liquid and C9 (and few weeks ago they were better than C9 and were top 2). They might still be top 2 USA because C9 almost beating NaVi doesn't prove anything (NaVi plays bad right now) and C9 beating TSM was more of a TSM fail than a great performance by C9 (and it was a random online tourney).

2016-08-03 18:04