oskar explains mouz benching

Tomáš "oskar" Šťastný has released a lengthy statement on Facebook, explaining his reasoning behind stepping down from mousesports.

Earlier this week, MOUZ left the scene befuddled as Tomáš "⁠oskar⁠" Šťastný stepped down from the active roster due to unspecified personal issues. 


oskar explains his decision to step down from mousesports

On Saturday, the team found a permanent replacement for the Czech, as Christian "⁠loWel⁠" Garcia Antoran was transferred from PENTA to MOUZ, leaving little room for a possibility of the 25-year-old's return.

oskar has just released a lengthy statement explaining his side of the move:

"As you know, I decided to take a break from playing for mousesports.

I'm sorry that it turned out the way it did. When I joined and we began practising, I already felt there was something wrong and that I'm missing something in the team. I knew all the players, except for Spiidi, so I thought it was going to be a good bunch of guys, that the time spent with them wouldn't be for nothing and that we'd succeed. However, from the get go I felt I couldn't endure the practice regimen and what the others expected of me, which you might have noticed in my performance. I didn't play to the level that was expected of me, I couldn't find myself in the game and I fell into a depressing level, so I saw myself slowing down the team.

During our trip back to the hotel from the Gfinity venue, I was thinking and preparing what I'd say and how fast I'd make my decision, because we had a lot of tournaments ahead of us. When we arrived at the hotel, we sat down and began discussing the event. Not one word was said about my performance, the players probably knew I could play much better and that something was wrong. And it was, I couldn't focus on the game because I doubted myself. After exchanging our opinions and some heated discussion, I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't continue playing with them and slow them down in preparations for upcoming tournaments.

It's obviously a big risk, there might not come a time when mousesports are interested in playing with me in 2017, there might not be a team interested in me so much so that they'd buy me out.I sacrificed so much in my life to the game that I wouldn't have a problem with playing 12 hours a day, 6 days a week if I felt good in the team. Unfortunately, I'm not 20 anymore and right now I really didn't feel up to it. Wrong place, wrong time.

You know the main reasons. Nobody died in my family, it doesn't have anything to do with my loved ones, everyone understands it and respect my job, I wasn't influenced by anyone. It was only my personal issue and my decision. I don't want to go into internal team matters, so we'll leave it at that. I still have time to prove that I'm a top-tier player and that I can be professional. Now, I have time to practise my English and improve it. Those of you who like my humour can look forward to me streaming and playing FPL. We'll begin again from zero.

P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul"

 As you know, I decided to take a break from playing for mousesports.
I'm sorry that it turned out the way it did. When I joined and we began practising, I already felt there was something wrong and that I'm missing something in the team. I knew all the players, except for Spiidi, so I thought it was going to be a good bunch of guys, that the time spent with them wouldn't be for nothing and that we'd succeed. However, from the get go I felt I couldn't endure the practice regimen and what the others expected of me, which you might have noticed in my performance. I didn't play to the level that was expected of me, I couldn't find myself in the game and I fell into a depressing level, so I saw myself slowing down the team.
During our trip back to the hotel from the Gfinity venue, I was thinking and preparing what I'd say and how fast I'd make my decision, because we had a lot of tournaments ahead of us. When we arrived at the hotel, we sat down and began discussing the event. Not one word was said about my performance, the players probably knew I could play much better and that something was wrong. And it was, I couldn't focus on the game because I doubted myself. After exchanging our opinions and some heated discussion, I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't continue playing with them and slow them down in preparations for upcoming tournaments.
It's obviously a big risk, there might not come a time when mousesports are interested in playing with me in 2017, there might not be a team interested in me so much so that they'd buy me out.
I sacrificed so much in my life to the game that I wouldn't have a problem with playing 12 hours a day, 6 days a week if I felt good in the team. Unfortunately, I'm not 20 anymore and right now I really didn't feel up to it. Wrong place, wrong time.
You know the main reasons. Nobody died in my family, it doesn't have anything to do with my loved ones, everyone understands it and respect my job, I wasn't influenced by anyone. It was only my personal issue and my decision. I don't want to go into internal team matters, so we'll leave it at that. 
I still have time to prove that I'm a top-tier player and that I can be professional. Now, I have time to practise my English and improve it. Those of you who like my humour can look forward to me streaming and playing FPL. We'll begin again from zero.

P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul

 

Spain Christian 'loWel' Garcia Antoran
Christian 'loWel' Garcia Antoran
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
359
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.67
Czech Republic Tomáš 'oskar' Šťastný
Tomáš 'oskar' Šťastný
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
389
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.66
#7
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poor oskar
2016-10-10 12:34
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wow, they removed my comment, i just wrote, nice read.
2016-10-10 12:35
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same here, ridiculous how one person destroy hltv
2016-10-10 12:37
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And you wrote "TLDR: cheating" Stop the lies.
2016-10-10 12:49
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but that's funny and people should just read the article instead of relying on a TLDR
2016-10-10 13:44
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It isnt funny. It's offtopic.
2016-10-10 13:56
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#304
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it is funny and its ontopic
2016-10-10 16:34
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It's funny because they're germans
2016-10-10 16:40
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ScreaM | 
Faroe Islands mr_c0mrade
but he's czech
2016-10-10 17:47
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#339
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no spiidi is german
2016-10-10 18:27
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it is funny and its ontopic
2016-10-10 21:03
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#278
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Israel sweetz
it's my opinion. It could be nice if i could have one : ) This changes will end badly for site, i can feel it in my bones. oh, sorry that i edited my post here. Next time maybe delete "edit" option
2016-10-10 15:50
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rekt Cx
2016-10-13 03:37
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this "one person" is (at least for me) on of the first guys that I remeber as hltv.org crew, lol (with nomad)
2016-10-10 19:53
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Israel sweetz
yup, but everything changed
2016-10-10 23:06
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LOL! No you didnt. You wrote some crap, then edited.
2016-10-10 12:49
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Norway Kjeltring
i don't se the problem. literally wrote "sdf" or something. can't see how that ruins this webside m8. Edit: and then fixed it in a matter of seconds.
2016-10-10 12:50
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Useless comment hunting for #1 post.
2016-10-10 12:51
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Norway Kjeltring
and? is there actually a rule that says i can't do that? if there is then fine, but if there isn't i don't se the reason to remove the comments, if they actually fix them in the matter of 2 seconds.
2016-10-10 12:52
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Yes there is.
2016-10-10 12:53
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could you find that for me please? would like to see it.
2016-10-10 12:53
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No.
2016-10-10 12:54
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kek
2016-10-10 12:54
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Stop being a puss, are you new here? Everyone know hunting for 1st post is against the rules and subject to be deleted
2016-10-10 17:01
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#386
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Norway Kjeltring
well the thing was, i don't really care, but since he is actually beeing serious about it, i am going to do it to.
2016-10-11 01:00
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goodman
2016-10-11 05:39
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are you being serious right now?
2016-10-10 13:22
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Made my day :'D
2016-10-10 13:30
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#189
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United Kingdom Jogobeef
right, so for that comment he's going to continue doing it and i'm going to do it more often just for that, nice way to make yourself look like a prick. there's being funny then there's just being a twat lmao ^^
2016-10-10 13:46
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Tell me 1 good reason why he should search it up for a little fuck whit like him or you ? Because you think he needs to ? get lost little chicken a girl has more balls then you.
2016-10-10 14:44
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it doesnt exist in the rulebook, its why hes not searching it up
2016-10-10 16:27
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Riot level responding :D:D
2016-10-10 13:53
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lmao
2016-10-10 14:22
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hltv.org/?pageid=171 Because it isn't there right?
2016-10-10 16:25
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First launch an eSports site, run it for 10 years straight, and then we go back to the talk. Isn't it clear you want your place to be clean and cosy? Fkng smarstass stoner
2016-10-10 17:59
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This site is popular cus it is a place for shitposting...
2016-10-10 21:01
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This site is popular because it provides the best coverage for CS events.
2016-10-11 13:17
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#404
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But this forum is popular because it's the perfect place for trolls and shitposters
2016-10-11 13:43
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#405
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Australia bsharp)
That's why noone gives a shit about the forum and nobody takes it seriously. Considering the amount of work the admins put here they'd like some changes.
2016-10-11 13:45
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The site is popular cus of the forums... This site wouldnt be shit without all the 12 year old newfags shitposting.
2016-10-11 14:16
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come on martin youre better than that
2016-10-10 17:49
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lol wtf mate, seriously
2016-10-10 18:22
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#367
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Iceland Iceland
I can't see how hunting for #1 is harmful to the site... He atleast edited his comment.
2016-10-10 20:59
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martin are u fcking new idiot who delete comms?
2016-10-11 09:48
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Great job, I only wish you'd introduce acc synchronization with steam so there'd be less idiots with multiple accounts.
2016-10-11 13:06
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hltv.org/?pageid=171 Can't find the rule :/
2016-10-10 14:00
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ayyy, freedom 4 teh fast commentorz
2016-10-10 15:42
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pageid=171 lol they don't even use essential custom linking for the rules/support etc.
2016-10-10 16:24
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small suggestion on this perhaps: is it possible to make the main post (for example, this blog) count as #1, and then the first user-written reaction count as #2? maybe that would give people less incentive to hunt for #1 post
2016-10-10 12:55
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Why dont you just disable comments for few minutes just after a blog is posted, so that ppl actually read whats written instead of typing crappy comments?
2016-10-10 13:40
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Why don't you just write a proper fucking comment then? Being first doesn't make you relevant or important, get real.
2016-10-11 13:22
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No.one actually does that, also if he edited and Then said something Nice theres no.need to. Remove
2016-10-10 12:55
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No one does that... sure... that's why the first 10 comments are always edited from "1st".
2016-10-10 13:19
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You must be joking if you don't understand what you're doing wrong. Everyone who hunts for top comments stalks the site constantly for new news, and then quickly comments random letters like "asd, aaa" etc etc. It has nothing to do with the actual story and proves that you're there only for the top comment. (Edit: forgot to mention they always edit the post to make it look better xD)
2016-10-10 13:59
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yea, i do understand why it was removed, it started out as a joke, but his arguments were so bad that i actually started to get a bit pissed of :P
2016-10-11 01:02
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#310
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Netherlands amplifieR
why are you arguing with him, drop da banhammer
2016-10-10 16:49
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"We'll begin again from zero." oskar can Return by-
2016-10-10 12:47
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I give it few 1-2 months and he will be in a team
2016-10-10 12:55
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Not sure about that, every top team already made their changes over the end of summer. I don't see how he would join some tier2 team worse than HR. Unless he will be in beast mode in the second quarter of next year, this might as well be the end of his career, he is ont young.
2016-10-10 13:22
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death
2016-10-11 22:56
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no. he's rich
2016-10-10 15:05
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:(
2016-10-10 12:35
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FAK ADMIN DELETED MY COMMENT
2016-10-10 12:42
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Sad oskar
2016-10-10 12:35
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S A D B O Y S Should just start popping Xanax daily and all fine.
2016-10-10 14:30
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Gosh damn man
2016-10-10 14:37
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I'm more a fan of the lean and afghan kush, if you know what I mean.
2016-10-10 20:57
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i think i might be crazy but could you be a fan of yung lean
2016-10-11 13:32
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What? I have no idea what you are talking abo- POP, POP, POP, DROP THIS TOP, TOP, TOP
2016-10-11 14:13
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sure
2016-10-10 12:35
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Netherlands JelleS
Yes
2016-10-10 12:40
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Australia dysi
Sucks
2016-10-10 12:35
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Poor dude :/
2016-10-10 12:36
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lul
2016-10-10 12:36
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good
2016-10-10 12:36
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If he doesn't believe in himself, no way his team could succeed,rip.
2016-10-10 12:36
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Hopefully he recovers from the low. And damn so many deleted comments.
2016-10-10 12:37
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Lold at I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul"
2016-10-10 12:37
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Lul
2016-10-10 12:37
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Syria Gonezxzx
Hope you find another team in the future oskar <3
2016-10-10 12:37
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Finland masiju
Basically he just couldn't handle the pressure of being a potential star in a higher tier team?` Is that what I'm getting out of this? Because even with this explanation it's all really quite vague.
2016-10-10 12:37
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Czech Republic Kharnix
Especially when he has already been in HR, which isn't much far from mouz. >_>
2016-10-10 12:50
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#281
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Sweden mickeeyo
Mouz pretending to be top 5 team with NiKo in it. For sure NiKo pull the presure to all of team to become better and better and challange top tier teams so yee... HR was just a mix of CIS faggots, couldnt even attend proper LAN nowdays.
2016-10-10 15:58
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#82
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Finland bliplbob
From between the lines I get a feeling that he didn't believe in the team enough to commit to insane hours of practice. Mouz was the problem Kappa
2016-10-10 12:52
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#148
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United Kingdom TheAnswer89
Commitment to a team which got NiKo as a superstar must not be that hard. :P
2016-10-10 13:26
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#178
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Finland bliplbob
Yeah shouldn't be. But a team containing chrisJ with rifle, spiidi and denis is not a clear cut case...
2016-10-10 13:41
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#306
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United Kingdom TheAnswer89
Havin NiKo in a team is reason itself. Honestly I believe that Oskar is not that good of an awper in TOP tier level that everyone would have expected.
2016-10-10 16:36
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Finland neksu
I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul ayylmao
2016-10-10 12:37
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so they dont let him to make exit frags and bait kills? like in HR and other teams and he got toxic and leave the team okay
2016-10-10 12:38
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#64
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Czech Republic Kharnix
What if he knows, or think about that in game.? That he's an exit fragger etc and can't do more, and thats why he don't believe in himself? Have you only one hate thought on your mind to spread?
2016-10-10 12:47
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#30
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Finland periaate
"We'll begin again from zero." from zero Žero i see something is happening
2016-10-10 12:37
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+1 for you
2016-10-10 12:49
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Sweden Keyy =DD
P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul" Hahaha
2016-10-10 12:38
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It's actually a decent compliment... you decide to leave a team and everybody (including the likes of Richard Lewis) instantly speculates that you are cheating :D
2016-10-10 13:41
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#380
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Vietnam @hungipham
the lul thing is best hahahahaha
2016-10-10 23:33
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#32
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Singapore retar
lul
2016-10-10 12:38
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#33
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France Ryzerr
Oskar is a good guy
2016-10-10 12:38
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#34
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Finland coswell
GL Oskar, nice to hear an explanation for the benching. You need to bring in jonz from NZ to start a new team, lul. ;)
2016-10-10 12:38
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#35
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Serbia bestplayerofthegango
Liquid oskar plz
2016-10-10 12:39
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So he got kinda depressed and his game lacked at that, he then made the decision to step down and not hold the team back, thats quite big of him, i kinda respect him for that choice
2016-10-10 12:39
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+1 true
2016-10-10 13:41
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+2 true
2016-10-10 16:25
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But its very sad because that way of thinking holds him back.And maybe he did not perform because of the very same reasons, and then got into a downwards spiral of more taking pressure on himself and getting worse performances.
2016-10-10 16:32
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#361
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Netherlands installwizard
yeah it's sad but i don't think playing more cs in an environment that he felt was too much for him is going to make him feel better.
2016-10-10 20:14
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Australia spastics
If only smithzz would do it. :b
2016-10-14 09:14
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Damn. That's pretty sad
2016-10-10 12:39
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Brazil DileBani
Wow! How did you read the post in 20 seconds??
2016-10-10 14:01
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your mom gay
2016-10-10 23:27
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Spain rezpekfull
tl;dr oskar admits he's an onliner
2016-10-10 12:39
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Germany Bier
xd
2016-10-10 12:58
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#39
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Czech Republic Arican
big and respectful step
2016-10-10 12:39
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lol, his wife told him to write it, i dont believe you oskar
2016-10-10 12:39
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#41
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Germany Kayanex
Hope you archive all your goals. Gl
2016-10-10 12:40
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#42
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Netherlands JelleS
Well he is not the youngest and has a kid to care for, none the less glhf in the future oskar
2016-10-10 12:39
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#61
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Slovakia zol1k
wtf? he doesnt have a kid.
2016-10-10 12:46
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#290
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Czech Republic flappy_b
Yea, he have to care about his kid, no time to play csgo
2016-10-10 16:08
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#43
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Finland allu b
that's bullshit m8
2016-10-10 12:40
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So Niko is toxic?
2016-10-10 12:40
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#46
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Finland periaate
hmm.. so this means he has to move to team that don't have so big expectations on him. (tier 1 team?)
2016-10-10 12:40
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#59
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Portugal Zedonp
Tier 5 the opponents are easy and he doesn't need to pratice and tire himself out.
2016-10-10 12:45
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6 replies
#67
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Finland periaate
idk, the statement of oskar shows that oskar has kind of bad pressure tolerance. in tier 5 he would have so much pressure about carrying.
2016-10-10 12:47
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#70
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Portugal Zedonp
yeah but anyone can carry vs bots.
2016-10-10 12:48
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#79
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Finland periaate
Maybe he needs to go back to HR (or maybe flipside). Known players for him who know exactly how he wants to play, and he doesnt need to speak english
2016-10-10 12:51
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#89
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Portugal Zedonp
yeah or go to SK so he doesn't need to play be a star or practice because godzera and wallen will carry him. I don't know wtf he thinks a csgo career means.
2016-10-10 12:53
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#104
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Finland periaate
well lets not be rude to him. need to respect that he has balls to do what is best for him.
2016-10-10 12:58
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#109
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Portugal Zedonp
he complained about praticing schedule, like come on if you don't want to pratice how can you adjust to your teammates, or improve as a team. I'm sure niko is a strict mofo but being a god tier player and not accomplishing anything in his prime must be sad and revolting.
2016-10-10 13:01
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from my pov he just said he didnt wanted to pracc as much as the team needed ..
2016-10-10 14:54
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#47
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United States cincinnatus
Not 20 anymore, still says 'lul.' lul
2016-10-10 12:40
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#84
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Czech Republic ScuffedJays
LUL
2016-10-10 12:52
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#381
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World Reasons
People been saying lel and lul since some of the OGest games. The amount of things ppl assume signify age. Niggas assumed I was 40 the way I talked when I was 14. 9 years later, I talk like a white trash hillbilly online (becuz troll lulz). Got to bring down your communication to the audience you are talking to. SMH LEL TOPKEK XD LULREKT GOT TO WIN DOSE.
2016-10-10 23:53
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#48
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Europe urv1
lul
2016-10-10 12:40
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#415
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Poland sajlent
+1 the best part of it xD
2016-10-13 18:12
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#49
Ex6TenZ | 
France p2l
make a team with DEVIL
2016-10-10 12:41
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#51
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Wicadia | 
Turkey RAGE_M
s1mple > oskar confirmed. Bu oskar is a good guy.
2016-10-10 12:41
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how can u relate s1mple with that article u little retard at least read a bit but u 3rd worlders cant read I forgot :D
2016-10-10 13:30
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#53
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Singapore silvaman
He was in Mouz what like one week ? obviously everything is not going to work from the start lol. This guy seems so emo.
2016-10-10 12:42
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He played for mouz for 2 months actually
2016-10-10 13:42
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To many people this might seem like a negative move for him and show him as unprofessional, however I would say the opposite, he recognized that he is not going to be the player he was expected to be and he would not be able to be that player so he stepped down. He is taking a great risk for the benefit of mouz. He's going to come back better as a person and player.
2016-10-10 12:42
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Not being "good enough" after what? Not even one month of playing with them? Lul. Shit makes zero sense, if he trully wanted to be a proffesional he would addres the problems that he had in the team a do everything he could have done to play better, which is after all his responsibility, like commiting to the practice hours. One would have tought that playing with niko would "cheer him up". It rather felt like he was feeling too much pressure to perform OR didnt believe in mouz succeeding in the first place(which makes 0 sense). God what a wasted talent and skill, I quess that my hope for Czech player succeeding is again, becoming unrealistic.
2016-10-10 13:19
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Its not only that he is not playing up to shape it is how he is looking at himself in game he had hit a mental wall and is using time to get back. He made the right choice
2016-10-10 13:41
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I quess, but not in terms of his CSGO career. Wasting year of time in your twenties in shitraisers to then retire (again...) after one month in a tier one potential team, seems like wasted time which isnt really the right choice. Using time to get back? get back to what? HR already signed contract with deadfox and there isnt really anyone to replace there. And playing in mouz seems rather impossible. Not sure if any team would want him after this fluke.
2016-10-10 13:47
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#225
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Slovenia Asgarnian
He'll practice English. So ez Na xD
2016-10-10 14:15
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oh shiet tottaly forgot about NA xD well then there is the problem of leaving his fammily, but NA rn seems like the only possible way to get in to a decent team. EDIT. nvm NA is shit except C9, TL and Optic in terms of international tournaments, maybe Gambiterino?
2016-10-10 14:26
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#251
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Slovenia Asgarnian
I was mostly joking. But the possibility is there if he's that kind of guy who doesn't mind moving over the pond. Of course he wouldn't be getting into a good team but at least he'd be getting a decent salary compared to tier 3 orgs in Europe.
2016-10-10 14:52
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#55
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Norway Noreg
lul" :,)
2016-10-10 12:42
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"We'll begin again from zero." oskar re:zero fan confirmed?
2016-10-10 12:43
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lol
2016-10-10 16:34
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#57
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Portugal Zedonp
He was an exit fragger before. Now he is a little quitter bitch that couldn't endure the pratice regiment and perform
2016-10-10 12:44
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#58
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Johnny R. | 
Spain shooterr
many words for say nothing
2016-10-10 12:44
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#80
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Spain rezpekfull
this is a shitty statement overall it doesn't make much sense
2016-10-10 12:51
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"I don't want to go into internal team matters, so we'll leave it at that." any deeper meaning? :O
2016-10-10 12:46
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#110
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Germany Bier
niko was like :shad up
2016-10-10 13:01
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I see, shad up X3
2016-10-10 13:11
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#62
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World PewPewKurt
yes and ppl flamed me 3 days ago because I said he is not professional. such a retard, wtf. mouz invested and changed so much for him an he is just like " i dont feel the love, i underperformed, depressions within 2 weeks" wow, this should be a warning for every team. dont work with his guy.
2016-10-10 12:46
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#65
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Slovenia Asgarnian
Pretty dissapointed... So basically he was too lazy to practice as much as mouz wanted to practice and wasn't able to adjust to it. I would understand if there was something going on with his family or loved ones that would distract him. But this is just pure dissapointment.
2016-10-10 12:53
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#120
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HObbit | 
Germany 3mili0
+1
2016-10-10 13:08
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#128
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World PewPewKurt
true m8 this is ridiculous. they spend him bootcamp (for sure hardware too) and wasted weeks of practise during important times for the rest of the season. "Unfortunately, I'm not 20 anymore" wtf. 1) whats his point 2) he suddenly noticed "oops im not 20 anymore, i cant work hard now" lmao Like RL pointed on his vid, this guy might have some more or less serious mental issues.
2016-10-10 13:14
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well he basically said that it was his own mental problems in this statement
2016-10-10 13:20
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#188
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Slovenia Asgarnian
I don't think being lazy is a mental issue xD maybe lack of motivation is xD At least he's being honest that he just can't cope being organized enough to endure that practice regimen... The 20 year old thing is indeed ridiculous there's people working hard in bad condition factories until 60 years old and he can't focus on games at 25 xD top kek
2016-10-10 13:45
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#66
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NEO | 
Poland BartoloNEO
OMG what a crybaby. He's 25 yo and acting like a little girl. Be a f*ing man and show everyone that you can handle it on top level. Now we can see that this guy has no idea what doing his job means.
2016-10-10 12:50
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#115
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Ukraine twil
steal my words +1 mate
2016-10-10 13:02
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#146
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
taz must be having a good laugh reading this shit, not 20 anymore, what
2016-10-10 13:25
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expected from poorlak with no brain. Can't understand that somethings are counter productive and there are better options then just forcing a top tier player into your practice regiment because it suits you, nobody will gain anything from this. The player forced will play like shit, the team atmosphere will get fucked. There were many alternatives to do it but now mouz will stay a overrated pile of dogshit.
2016-10-10 13:42
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Wait, are you actually blaming mouz, a team clearly trying to play at tier 1 level, for wanting their fifth to actually practice and him quiting because of it? Please tell me im just getting baited and you aren't that stupid
2016-10-10 14:27
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#255
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Estonia swag420weed
But, oskar plays as good without practice. Too much practice fked him up.
2016-10-10 14:57
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Well apparently not, hence his poor first lan and his decision to just quit after ONE POOR LAN...
2016-10-10 15:37
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xaxaxaxa, people think mouz is tier1? Mouz is a overrated pile of dogshit on life support because of niko. I'm blaming mouz on not looking for alternative ways to make it work out with oskar, i.e. have him coached, have a player psychologist, even not let him practice (aslong as he delivers in officials). That's how you work things out, not "come in our team and play 12hours of scrims" or whatever the fuck the practice schedule is. You could even practice with 4 and just let a coach just tell the defaults and smokes to oskar. Same shit with s1mple, TL poorly managed having one of the best players in the world and lost them, this is the same situation. Poorly managed, lose a top tier player. No bait.
2016-10-10 16:07
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note i said "trying" not "are", they can sometimes beat tier 1 but aren't going to win anything, i know that. and it's not mouz's job to look for alternative ways to deal with a player that doesn't want to put forth the same effort that the rest of the team does. frankly, oskar doesn't deserve any special treatment just because he says meh, i don't want to practice. that's absolutely ridiculous to make the claim that he does. that's oskars job to be a professional, not the team's job to cater to his every whimsical need. and its not the same shit whatsoever with simple. simple moved halfway across the world to an entire different hemisphere, different culture, left his friends, family, and other loved ones at home, and is still really fricking young for that big of a lifestyle change outside of the game. i don't blame simple or liquid for that situation, it just simply didn't work out tldr: its ridiculous to claim that because a player didn't feel like putting in the work himself that the team should cater to his every need instead. and based on his first and only lan with the team, he wasn't worth any of that effort because he sucked, and that definitely wouldn't get any better IF HE DOESN"T PRACTICE WITH THE FUCKING TEAM. sorry for the long tldr
2016-10-10 21:57
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#241
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NEO | 
Poland BartoloNEO
No wonder why Hitler came through your country in one day. You guys are the biggest pussies in whole world. Just because something doesn't fit you, you shouldn't hang a white flag.
2016-10-10 14:39
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#283
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Estonia swag420weed
Lol, Polska talking about war like you heroically rekt Commies and Nazis when they decided to gangrape you.
2016-10-10 15:59
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lul, you forgot how your country got rekt in the blitzkrieg? Hitler rekt your country faster than ours.
2016-10-10 16:03
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#68
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Thailand hahahoha
Sellout for stream LUL
2016-10-10 12:47
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#69
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elemeNt | 
Norway Shitrich
So basically saying." I couldn't be the star of the team so i left"
2016-10-10 12:47
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#76
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Portugal Zedonp
basically he was shit and didn't want to improve. He would never be a star player. I will say this once, everyone said oskar was better than fox well fox endured all the hate and performed sometimes and never complained about too much pratice and too much pressure.
2016-10-10 12:50
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#87
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Liechtenstein puresense
you're only bringing fox into this because you're portugese, noone mentioned fox before
2016-10-10 12:53
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#96
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Portugal Zedonp
thats why i will only say it once otherwise everyone will fall on me. But if you remenber correctly when he said he was changing teams everyone was saying -fox +oskar all day i guess we now know just how much of a bitch he is.
2016-10-10 12:55
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#99
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Liechtenstein puresense
true true, shame he's limited in his options cos of language maybe NA can use him
2016-10-10 12:56
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#106
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Portugal Zedonp
True but he is only limited because he didn't want to study when he was in school, because in portugal we are all pretty decent so if he knew he would've worked hard when he was younger
2016-10-10 12:59
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retard fox fangay lul pls stfu and keep licking foxs rotten dick
2016-10-10 13:32
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#198
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Portugal Zedonp
stfu suicide bomber no one asked you the tnt ammount necessary to blow up a person so you don't need to comment.
2016-10-10 13:50
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ahah retard kid cant even realize that flag is not arabic u should have asked your boyfriend fox which flag is that
2016-10-10 13:52
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#257
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Portugal Zedonp
Its a shit flag either way and i know you are not from that country and are prob just a kid from swedistani ence why i wrote that. Get tossed biatch
2016-10-10 15:02
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#162
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Czech Republic efronek
oh so fox is your brother. That explains your hate :D Anyway. I respect fox, we played against him many times back in CS 1.6. And i was happy about him when he joined FaZe. It doesn't matter who is better and blablabla. oskar is really good guy and amazing player and you should respect him too.
2016-10-10 13:35
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#196
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Portugal Zedonp
my cousin. I don't hate oskar anyway because he didn't do anything wrong to me. I just don't repect him that much because he is a quitter. I don't know if oskar is your brother but i can also say fox is a good guy and no one would respect him more.
2016-10-10 13:48
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#86
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Slovakia 1343214fdsaff
he wasnt able to play well, he didnt play on the level he expected from himself (nor on the level his teammates expected of him) so he left, yes
2016-10-10 12:53
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#77
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Bulgaria kr9ptonn
P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul" LUL
2016-10-10 12:51
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#81
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Australia wolfkiNg
Hope you feel better soon champ, best of luck! :)
2016-10-10 12:52
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#90
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zoneR | 
Russia jestkyi tip
oksar everything is ok. Actions not always bring happiness; but there is no happiness without action.
2016-10-10 12:53
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#92
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Costa Rica disturv
lul
2016-10-10 12:54
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#95
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Germany Bier
waiting for the first oskar fanboy who didn't read the article who is crying :" üh mouz assholes why you kick oskar instead of denis"
2016-10-10 12:55
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#100
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Czech Republic Kharnix
Oh nice, we were waiting for you to mention that! <3 :D
2016-10-10 12:56
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#102
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Portugal Zedonp
denis is worse but he knows how to keep his mouth shut and handle the hate and the pressure so in some sense denis is better.
2016-10-10 12:56
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denis is good in his role
2016-10-10 15:39
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#273
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Portugal Zedonp
I don't think denis and good can fit in the same phrase but it depends on how you see the game being played. There are players that are only good in support roles but imo denis is subpar compared to other support players.
2016-10-10 15:41
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so what? not everyone can be a niko or a shox he backs up niko which is what the team needs, being structured like it is
2016-10-10 15:44
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#313
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Other kimbadim
+1 also denis does have some good-fragging games, which just nobody of the denis hating people mention, because else they couldn't talk shit
2016-10-10 16:53
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#101
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Germany mkai
gl in finding a team that suits you :)
2016-10-10 12:56
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#103
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands CcARTii
I respect this move He noticed he wasn't the one to practise 12 hours a day and really grind as a team. Instead of milking it out; slowing the team down, he got up and made room for someone that is down to grind hard.
2016-10-10 12:57
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#111
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World PewPewKurt
What? He signs a contract, they invest in him and than he notice that he isnt the guy for hard work and he leaves the 4 other ppl fucked up? And at the end of the statement, he talks about moving on in PROFESSIONAL business? How can you pay respect for this move? Whats honorable or professional?
2016-10-10 13:02
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#132
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f0rest | 
Slovakia Dui
Learn to read - "I sacrificed so much in my life to the game that I wouldn't have a problem with playing 12 hours a day, 6 days a week if I felt good in the team." Obviously they pushed him into a position when he wasnt feeling comfortable at all. What would you do in a case when somebody basically said to you "stand right here and carry", something you never really did well? He was able to stand strong against top awpers, but now we can see that he needs to do it on his own terms. Kind of like Maikelele an JW with their wild playstyle.
2016-10-10 13:18
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bullshit. 'However, from the get go I felt I couldn't endure the practice regimen ' kaboom ur whole post destroyed with one quote.
2016-10-10 13:22
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#151
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f0rest | 
Slovakia Dui
I have read the statement written in his native language, and there seems to be missing a crucial part in the translation - "regimen ... and what was asked of me and what was not".
2016-10-10 13:28
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and whats that supposed to mean then? is he in some weird way alluding to mouz not giving him enough room in the team? was he crying himself to sleep at night bcs niko is playing the first violin in that team and he could only have the second? crap. in any team in the world save from SK and NaVi niko would be the starplayer. thats really not anything to cry about.
2016-10-10 13:31
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#158
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f0rest | 
Slovakia Dui
And have you for a moment even considered a thought that Niko is that star player because he is being given a FREEDOM to play as he wishes? And that Oskar needs the same treatment? Seems to me that Niko wanted some "star awper" to be his bitch and do what suits HIS playstyle.
2016-10-10 13:33
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what a load of crap. ofc niko looks better than he is bcs he is in a shit team that lets him do whatever the fuck he wants. but that doesnt change that he is one of the absolute best players to ever touch cs. and niko, basicly in elo hell, finally gets another star player on the team to help carry the german bots and for some reason u assume that he is too toxic? even though there is nothing pointing at niko being toxic? and even if so, so what?
2016-10-10 13:37
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#184
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f0rest | 
Slovakia Dui
Another aggresive individual that has problems to comprehend a text ... Have I ever written Niko was toxic? I have said that Niko probably wanted Oskar to bend to his will, and do things Oskar wasnt comfortable with (he said as much in his statement, the part that is missing in the translation. And he is one of the best because he is not being subjected to a strict set of rules associated with a role. Doesnt mean a "star awper" has to carry on Nikos terms.
2016-10-10 13:44
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it looks like i dont understand u simply bcs u write so much bs that i interpret it correctly and then think he cant really mean that, this is too stupid so i interpret it differently. as if niko would not try his hardest to make it work with oskar.... and as if oskar, finally in a decent team with at least 2 other good players wouldnt try his hardest either to make it work and just suck it up when not everything works smoothly at first. oh wait, apparently oskar did not suck it up and did not try his hardest to make shit work.
2016-10-10 14:15
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#240
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f0rest | 
Slovakia Dui
Yup. His dream came true after so long, and he simply let it go because "whatever. You're the one full of shit.
2016-10-10 14:35
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he specifically said that nobody died, nothing is wrong in his surroundings and the problem was in his own head. that translates to either: he is nuts and doesnt wanna say it. or: he didnt give it 100% and personality issues which he has shown in the past prevented him from doing his job, which basicly means: hes an ass.
2016-10-10 15:24
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#149
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World PewPewKurt
I can read. Why you cut your quote ? "Unfortunately, I'm not 20 anymore and right now I really didn't feel up to it" combined with the statement that he knew all of the players (but spiidi) and think that they are nice guys, your point is more and more invalid. He was OK when he did well in HR and he was OK when mouz did well when he came in. He failed on his first T1 event with mouz and he instantly has a fucking midlife crisis with 25 years. Lol, if real pros like TaZ, neo, forest etc. acted in this way, they all would have benched themselves several times and wouldnt be there where they are.
2016-10-10 13:27
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#107
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United Kingdom ecu
Good luck oskar, hope things work out for you!
2016-10-10 12:59
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#108
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Finland Nakkipipo
Good luck for the future :)
2016-10-10 13:01
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Assuming this isn't PR nonsense, big respect to oskar for stepping down in such a graceful fashion. I hope he achieves all his goals, he's very talented and it'd be a loss to the community to see a player of his caliber fade away into obscurity.
2016-10-10 13:02
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#116
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Germany Bier
2016-10-10 13:05
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how about he jsut fucking mans up and does his job? that would be a touch more graceful i think, dont u agree? what a pussy. 'couldnt endure the practice regimen' what a load of crap. oskar could have elevated mouz to a new level where if they had replaced denis or spiidi with a decent player they coulda been a really strong team, but all this statement here says is that oskar couldnt be arsed, even though the team just fucking invested in him.
2016-10-10 13:24
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If it's just a question of him being lazy, sure. It didn't seem like that way from the statement he released though.
2016-10-10 13:37
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well he didnt fucking say anything precise at all now did he? a few weird hints at team chemistry and his own mental state and thats it, right? so basically that translates to: 'i couldnt be arsed'
2016-10-10 13:39
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If someone hints at their own mental state, it could potentially mean that it's a serious issue that they don't want to talk about. Neither of us are insiders in the pro scene, we can't assume anything. Sure, if it was just him being lazy, then fuck him, right? But if it were that simple I highly doubt mouz would have so willingly released him from his contract, especially considering how protective they've been with niko. If oskar is going through personal troubles I wish him the best.
2016-10-10 14:27
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look if hes not gonna say what the fuck is wrong and he doesnt even wanna explicitly say that something is wrong he has to expect ppl to judge only the stuff that he did end up saying. and he didnt say fuck all in this statement and it basicly translates to he couldnt be arsed to give it 100%, which i think is a shame bcs without him mouz is just gonna continue to be dogshit.
2016-10-10 15:18
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#203
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Finland JKRr
Thats what I thought aswell :/
2016-10-10 13:52
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+1 retards saying "it's his job" are autistic, if something is counterproductive you don't do it. And mouz should let him do what he wants and try to work things out. He's Niko tier player.
2016-10-10 13:40
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#113
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United Kingdom swellis
He's overrated anyway doesn't deserve to be in a top tier team
2016-10-10 13:02
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#114
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Turkey Rtax
12 hours a day. mouz just gtfo
2016-10-10 13:02
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#118
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World vivera986
He's a good man :)
2016-10-10 13:06
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#119
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Lithuania crittentao
i dont know sounds like some kind of conspiracy to me wtf
2016-10-10 13:07
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#121
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo
He sucks anyway lol
2016-10-10 13:09
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#122
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Slovakia TatKo
Such an weird guy
2016-10-10 13:09
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#124
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Germany ToxlC
P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul Made me laugh
2016-10-10 13:11
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#125
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
s1mple | 
Belarus GreenGrey
GO GAMBIT 1u1
2016-10-10 13:12
0
This is bs. He is holding something back, not honest at all. I actually used to like watching this guy play.
2016-10-10 13:12
0
My interpretation: He had a very bad chemistry with the rest of the team. He didn't find it enjoyable to play with them due to differences in personality. Not feeling comfortable socially he could not feel comfortable playing the game and as a result his performances dropped. Simultaneously he sounds a bit "burned out". Like he maybe just needs that break from CS in order to spend more time with people outside of the game.
2016-10-10 13:13
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2 replies
#247
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria benji789
best comment so far :)
2016-10-10 14:47
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1 reply
+1
2016-10-10 15:04
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#129
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil Antti4T
dignitas OSKAR
2016-10-10 13:15
0
Head up, focus in yourself, get a grip of is needed to do and get back to your plan ... not easy to take sucha decision and you have to be really corageous to have an attitude like that and stick by it ... Hope you recover and prove yourself once again... GL
2016-10-10 13:17
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2 replies
#322
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
MrFuckYou | 
United States lybrel
"really corageous" to be a quitter LOL
2016-10-10 17:08
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1 reply
Being honest to where you stand m8 ... quitting in order not the bring prejudice to the rest of the teamates, that´s corageous! being a quitter is something quite different, nevertheless if that´s your opinion I choose to respect it
2016-10-10 17:26
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#131
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Spain chanSw0w
ty oskar now lowel can play with mouz, Gl in the future bro, you can play easily in a T1 Team
2016-10-10 13:17
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5 replies
#166
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World PewPewKurt
which T1 team should take a player who cant handle serious preparation and has a heavy midlife crisis after a bad performance?
2016-10-10 13:37
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4 replies
#197
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Czech Republic efronek
you got here like 20 hateful comments. I am little bit curious - Did he fuck your girlfriend?
2016-10-10 13:49
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3 replies
#227
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World PewPewKurt
you want to say something to topic? no? k. and no, my gf likes alpha males, not a 25 years old crying midlife crisis. nt I think if oskars gf wants to sex him he says "Unfortunately, I'm not 20 anymore and right now I really didn't feel up to it" too, lmao
2016-10-10 14:19
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2 replies
#249
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway Spooderman
So your gf is cheating on u with alpha males? Dang , at least u are honest
2016-10-10 14:47
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1 reply
#414
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
;D
2016-10-13 15:43
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#134
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Ukraine lukas_ua
Tldr oskar is too old. Lol
2016-10-10 13:19
0
I read the whole thing and I still don't know why he won't play. what do?
2016-10-10 13:20
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5 replies
this. he pretty much didnt say anything at all lol
2016-10-10 13:26
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4 replies
#311
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands amplifieR
Not one word was said about my performance, the players probably knew I could play much better and that something was wrong. And it was, I couldn't focus on the game because I doubted myself. After exchanging our opinions and some heated discussion, I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't continue playing with them and slow them down in preparations for upcoming tournaments. I wouldn't have a problem with playing 12 hours a day, 6 days a week if I felt good in the team. Unfortunately, I'm not 20 anymore and right now I really didn't feel up to it. Wrong place, wrong time.
2016-10-10 16:50
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#312
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands amplifieR
also However, from the get go I felt I couldn't endure the practice regimen and what the others expected of me, which you might have noticed in my performance. I didn't play to the level that was expected of me, I couldn't find myself in the game and I fell into a depressing level, so I saw myself slowing down the team.
2016-10-10 16:51
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2 replies
none of that shit is precise information as to why it didnt work out. everything leaves room to speculate and forces u to speculate if u wanna know about the issues. what didnt work out? does oskar have depression or other mental health problems? did he have personal problems with one or multiple members of mouz that went so deep that he couldnt play on the same team with them? why cant he endure a hard practice regimen when all other players from age 16 to age 30 are capable of it? why did he not perform to the level expected of him when he had shown worldclass potential earlier in the year in HR? none of this gets answered and everything he does say is vague as fuck.
2016-10-10 16:57
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1 reply
#344
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands amplifieR
idk lol, seems like he doesn't want to share that kind of information.
2016-10-10 18:41
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"I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul" lul' More like cant handle tier 1-2 cs
2016-10-10 13:21
0
Good luck mate
2016-10-10 13:23
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#145
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
gabs | 
Europe GandalfThePimp
tl;dr lul
2016-10-10 13:25
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#155
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Finland jUPPE!
Oskar couldn't fit into the role mouz wanted him play in. NiKo is THE STAR in mouz. Everything in the team is built around him. If NiKo succeeds, mouz succeeds. In HR oskar was the star but in mouz he had to adapt his game into the system that was built around NiKo. Oskar couldn't adapt into playing in mouz. He might be sick player in FPL or in a team built around him but he clearly isn't a team player.
2016-10-10 13:32
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2 replies
thats the reason mouz never win anything with that playstyle the best possible thing they can achieve would be a semi-final
2016-10-10 13:35
0
yeah, mouz succeeding, some sick trophies they've won in 2016. Oh wait, they didn't because mouz is a pile of overrated shit by germans.
2016-10-10 13:39
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#157
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
MrFuckYou | 
Portugal mrsc
just another preordered statement from mouz. in other words hes a toxic cunt and no one wanted to play with him
2016-10-10 13:33
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1 reply
#324
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
nt fox..oskar > fox
2016-10-10 17:19
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#160
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Faroe Islands _shubaN
VP oskar
2016-10-10 13:35
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#161
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
When his contract with mousesports ends?
2016-10-10 13:35
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3 replies
#216
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Reunion HLTV_Confirmator
summer 2017 i guess
2016-10-10 14:03
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2 replies
#246
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
thx
2016-10-10 14:46
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#320
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
nvm
2016-10-10 17:05
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#165
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland jayss
niko toxic confirmed
2016-10-10 13:37
0
SmithZz do the same please
2016-10-10 13:38
0
1 reply
#318
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GeT_RiGhT | 
Armenia UNiVERSALftw
hahahahaha 10/10
2016-10-10 17:02
0
oskar totally worse than chrisj denis spiidi right?
2016-10-10 13:44
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#185
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland periaate
inb4 thorin is going to roast him so bad
2016-10-10 13:44
0
One more FPL hero like joelz... no team, no lans and farming FPL money. GG faceit good site.
2016-10-10 13:44
0
Eh, I really dont understand how this guy thinks, crazy.
2016-10-10 13:46
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#191
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World byaj
another dodger)
2016-10-10 13:47
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#194
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Turkey powergs
Looks like he is nice guy i really hope he find good team
2016-10-10 13:48
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At least he provided normal explanation - he doesn't feel well among them. That's just one thing. The second thing is practising regime - and this is strange, as why else did he expect? Team chemistry is very important. Well, good luck.
2016-10-10 13:50
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#199
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland JKRr
Dont know how bad the practice regimen is but ffs man Cs is a job now. Also quit after the first offline event and some bad stats like what the fuck is that!??! GG
2016-10-10 13:50
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#200
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Czech Republic Kosak
I got so happy when oskar got finally picked up by a team like mouz, all these years of performances far exceeding cz/sk scene and he still reletlessly practised hoping to get a shot being at the very top someday now I see that the transition might have taken far too long and the arrival of FPL and other tools that brought previously unknown international players to the relevancy and focus of the top teams in the game I really do hope that oskar finds the passion and fire for playing the game, it would be a hell of a shame and I hope that mouz boys (and especially Niko that became a really good friend of oskar's) wont completely give up on him
2016-10-10 13:50
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#201
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
nilo | 
Czech Republic capodecima
The whole problem is the language barrier i think. He has really not very good english. Its ok in game for calling and stuff. But on this level you hang out a lot with your team mates and talk and talk and i think oskar couldnt and its stressful, also oskar is dude which make fun about everything, and sometime his jokes can seems toxic etc, we are ok with him when he is like this talking czech, but again when you cant talk much english and use some dumb joke this can cause problems too. Good Luck oskar anyway.
2016-10-10 13:51
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#204
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain Ayrr
Pretty understandable, you don't want to waste your time on something you are not sure about it at the age of 29. But if you feel like it, try it, take a chance and see where you could land. Oskar gonna regret it after a while.
2016-10-10 13:53
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3 replies
#219
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World doh
age 25 !
2016-10-10 14:05
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2 replies
#226
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain Ayrr
lol for some reason I read 28-29, whatever. 25 still young enough to take a chance and try, idk why he is not taking the risk of it considering he is playing CS too much anyway regardless of playing for a team or nah. That's my point. Oportunities and chances are rare, if he wants to have a succesful career and at the same time he is not willing to take the risk of it... chances of him regreting after a while the fact that he left mouz and diminishing his chances a lot are pretty high. Whatever, just speaking my mind, couldn't care less about peoples choices. Gl Oskar.
2016-10-10 14:15
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1 reply
#319
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GeT_RiGhT | 
Armenia UNiVERSALftw
+1000000000000000000 bro
2016-10-10 17:03
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"I still have time to prove that I'm a top-tier player and that I can be professional." No. You don't have right mindset to became a top-tier player, sorry. You are immature person.
2016-10-10 13:54
0
4 replies
#230
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Czech Republic topperhopper
No need to apologize, it is not like he cares what the HLTV dwellers have to say.
2016-10-10 14:18
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3 replies
It is not like I care about his sad life.
2016-10-10 15:15
0
2 replies
#262
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Czech Republic topperhopper
You meant your sad life
2016-10-10 15:16
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1 reply
nt Ivan, reported
2016-10-10 16:09
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#207
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland zerbinos
gl oskar! good statement
2016-10-10 13:55
0
just dont try to heal your depression with alcohol again dude.
2016-10-10 13:55
0
2 replies
#292
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Was he drinking before? I tjought he never even drank
2016-10-10 16:09
0
1 reply
#396
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
no, it was just poor b8
2016-10-11 09:01
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#214
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
device | 
Slovakia AdaMMM1337
same like s1mple in liquid...for me atleast xd
2016-10-10 14:02
0
4 replies
#220
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Reunion HLTV_Confirmator
Asocial kid sent to the world?
2016-10-10 14:06
0
2 replies
#252
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
device | 
Slovakia AdaMMM1337
LUL
2016-10-10 14:53
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1 reply
#282
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Lithuania alon9
Pimp mentioned that s1mple spent most of his time in Liquid's team house and haven't had much social life (which sounds crazy when you live in Los Angeles).
2016-10-10 15:58
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#263
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Czech Republic ljukeN
nt mad´arko
2016-10-10 15:17
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#218
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
frozen | 
France Santaclose
expected this first day he entered mouz. predictible
2016-10-10 14:05
0
Poor oskar
2016-10-10 14:07
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#229
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland camarpl
seems weird, in football there are a ton of bad player transfers where a player couldn't adjust but he never steps down willingly
2016-10-10 14:17
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#231
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland RaptoRStillAlive
hope he gets his shit together
2016-10-10 14:21
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tl;dr Player rises to superstar status. Starts hitting near impossible shots against some of the best players in world. A large org buys him into contract, makes him play in an environment where he can't toggle, and his performance suddenly drops way off. The other players at the org start asking questions, to which he has no answers, so he leaves by mutual consent. Goes to find a team that doesn't mind toggling - Swedish roster change inc..? //Can't say I blame him though...
2016-10-10 14:22
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such a shame :/
2016-10-10 14:29
0
that ps made me cringe
2016-10-10 14:38
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#244
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark OPINIONATOR
Well according to that source everyone hated oskar either way. I like how he says nobody talked about his performance yet he knows he dragged the team down and so.show it got heated wtf lol.
2016-10-10 14:42
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Ok this is one of the few players i think is actually hacking . His plays online are so weird and on lan included HR he sucked donkey balls , this guy plays with wallhack 100 % . And this is the first time in my life i state some1 hacks just by watching his plays .
2016-10-10 14:47
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3 replies
#254
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
Spain tilteR
Terrible bait
2016-10-10 14:55
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#256
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
bad b8
2016-10-10 14:59
0
very bad bait
2016-10-10 15:48
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#250
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
very sad..i think it's a big step back for oskar
2016-10-10 14:49
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#261
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Croatia cashek
everything is lagging, lel, n1 :D
2016-10-10 15:16
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#267
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden AfterShock42
P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul Classic oskar.
2016-10-10 15:24
0
BibleThump
2016-10-10 15:51
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#284
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden mickeeyo
Funny thing that his statements proves the point of view of Poles, how we see Czechs :) You are guys so depressed and stressed all the time :) Just chill and have fun :D
2016-10-10 16:00
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#286
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Richard and thorin, give me your insight video on this statement, lets go.
2016-10-10 16:06
0
cyka czech brain
2016-10-10 16:07
0
''We'll begin again from zero.'' ZERO aka Hellraisers Zero? ggwp, Oskar back to Hellraisers
2016-10-10 16:08
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#294
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia autismus
ez money from mouz ez escape
2016-10-10 16:10
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#295
Faceit level 10  | 
Poland karic91
Good luck Oskar!
2016-10-10 16:23
0
Oskar was the problem
2016-10-10 16:27
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1 reply
#308
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Reunion HLTV_Confirmator
Oskar's head is the problem, not the first time.
2016-10-10 16:41
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FeelsBadMan
2016-10-10 16:29
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only thing this statement confirms is that it's not family issues. but we already kinda knew that.
2016-10-10 16:33
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I just remember a few months ago when everyone was making fun about virtus pro. they are too old, they are too bad blabla. but they are able to conquer hard times and won't give up easily. even the best players struggle but they come back but you won't come back if you quit too early. same applies to G2. they had a few months underperforming but slow and steady they worked their way up to e-league win.
2016-10-10 16:45
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P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul" hahahahaha absolutely loving it nice to hear no one died gl in the future
2016-10-10 17:01
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Guys from valve have written to him message about his vac-shots and now he retires.... KQLY!!!!
2016-10-10 17:07
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#323
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom dannyboy-
so basically oskar left because niko is a rager xD
2016-10-10 17:17
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#325
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland kRAMERO
"still have time to prove that I'm a top-tier player and that I can be professional" hahha, yeah leaving hellraiser in worst possible moment when they started really to play nice cs for mousesports only for few bucks more. i hope u die in shothole of cs
2016-10-10 17:19
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#326
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil hugoooo
I see this as oskar being too weak minded. He could'n handle pressure, hard training regimen and being on a bad phase, at the same time. I don't think he's ready to join a top team. He got the skills but with a weak mind, nothing happens.
2016-10-10 17:21
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#328
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil kadotA
No cheat no play well oscar...
2016-10-10 17:29
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#329
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World runnr
Shouldn't professionals stay above relationships and do their jobs instead? ;-)
2016-10-10 17:33
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#330
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Chile nachooww
rip
2016-10-10 17:39
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#334
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal antCB
so, he left cause he is a pussy? I mean, if you know you can perform better and your teammates aren't that bad (as in being bad people not players), why wouldn't you just push it a bit further and endure the difficulties and strive to be better. if you want to achieve something in CS, that is. From his statement it's clear he doesn't want to achieve shit, just wants to get payed for "playing" CS.
2016-10-10 18:08
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#335
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul legend... dutch people will understand
2016-10-10 18:12
0
lul
2016-10-10 18:23
0
gl in the future
2016-10-10 18:26
0
#340
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Taquito
what a noob lmao
2016-10-10 18:31
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#341
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
African Union Nors3
wp
2016-10-10 18:36
0
poor commitment and literally 0 persistence. too bad,with that attitude he will never achieve anything.
2016-10-10 18:38
0
#345
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Morocco urachicho
lul
2016-10-10 18:42
0
#347
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
2016-10-10 18:44
0
1 reply
#349
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz
Thooorin is a big fanboy. If sth. doesn't fit his hopes and expectations it's the fault of others. That's one of his arguments all along.
2016-10-10 18:58
0
ok gl br0
2016-10-10 18:45
0
Truth: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're SMART. I've always cheated and I'm the only toxic person in mousesports, because everyone knows I am the EXIT FRAGGER. lul"
2016-10-10 19:27
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1 reply
#356
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway Marvi
bad b8, retard
2016-10-10 19:48
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#353
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
swag | 
North America Ares872
Just ruined his best shot at a t1 team now everyone will assume he will be like this on their team and doubtful anyone but maybe OpTic or something buying out his contract I mean why worry about English so much if you're not on a team ATM I get to get a better grasp on it for future teams to help prevent that language barrier but I think it's more for a trip to NA where the big bucks and no majors live
2016-10-10 19:36
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#354
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Anunnaki
He didn't play to the level expected of him cause Mouse were playing real teams and he wasn't in HR anymore playing tier 2-3 teams.
2016-10-10 19:39
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#357
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World tromm
he is just happy with the money he gets from mouz for sitting on the bench because he cant get along with the people on his team... so he let them bench him so he could stream and earn even more money + he doenst have to pracc so much with people he doesnt like.
2016-10-10 19:51
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#358
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Azatis
"" oskar explains mouz benching "" Actually he didnt explain nothing other than what we knew already. He left over personal issues ...
2016-10-10 19:51
0
tl;dr
2016-10-10 20:11
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#362
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark geerZo
lul
2016-10-10 20:24
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#363
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Xyp9x | 
Denmark STATiC^
Gl in the future Oskar. :)
2016-10-10 20:38
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#364
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil mth^
wow martin can you reply to me? make my day a better one :D p.s: I <3 HLTV and their admins Thank you!
2016-10-10 20:42
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#366
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland teco
Chemistry is the most important factor in the team. If the chemistry is bad, there is no bright future.
2016-10-10 20:57
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#370
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
So underwhelming statement. Basically hes suggesting that they had team issues (afaik they didnt have many with previous lineup, def. not public) and/or he was not willing to practice needed amount of time. I really dont see much else in the statement. That is as bad for him as it can be in terms of new contract, i just hope he(mouz) already recieved some "you cant deny this" contract, but thats very unlikely. There are also few funny things, like i am not 20 anymore (thats why u waste so much time just benching in teams like HR or mouz?) and few more :) Improving english? NA teams are trash except maybe TL (bye JDM :P) and clowns (they got ska) but will they buy him out?
2016-10-10 21:42
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#372
Faceit level 7 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal dracø
So he left his job to dedicate to his cs career and then cant commit to training schedules?? Wtf was he thinking that would happen as he got into an higher tier of cs? To me this just shows that he is weak minded and not much of a professional. Niko must be Hard to handle, but I believe that most of the tier 2 players would love yobhave a chance to play in mouz, im sure lowel is very happy Also relevant: >im not 20 anymore >lul
2016-10-10 22:16
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#376
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Reunion HLTV_Confirmator
but you can see on oskar game, when he's training way too much, he starts missing the easiest shots. But you're right in the rest of your reply
2016-10-10 23:09
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For me he is just pussy... i understand if he has like 17 years old and get scared of the big stage but there is no reason for him to step down like that. He is experienced player and he should know how to improve his game but instead he choose to get paid from streaming. Its way easier and he dont need to dedicate that much time. As i said, he is just pussy nothing more.
2016-10-10 22:50
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#391
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Czech Republic efronek
twitter.com/Thooorin/status/785497210570.. Honestly i dont like Thorin. But as an analyst he is better than 95% comments here. Just try to think more. Ok oskar is often moody but in general he is good person. And he loves the game more than money, money is just big plus, obviously. I feel sorry for people who think that he is just pussy, quitter, toxic or cheater.
2016-10-11 03:42
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him being toxic is the only reason.
2016-10-10 23:10
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#382
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Sweden crindz
alright! so oskar is not toxic, but spiidi is!
2016-10-10 23:56
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#383
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany CALM_BAITER
I know oskar for years now and I can say that outside the gaming world he's very nice and funny guy. Cheers mate!
2016-10-11 00:09
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The post is so vague that it almost seems intentional. The only consistent thing in the statement was that he outright didn't want to meet whatever requirements mouz expected of him.
2016-10-11 00:27
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#388
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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African Union pepejerky
look at smithzz why u give up so easily
2016-10-11 01:02
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#389
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Germany No_Kappa
So sad. Such a great player like Oskar doesn't believe in himself. While tier 2 payers like SmithZ are carried 24/7.
2016-10-11 02:22
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P.S.: For those of you who think I quit because I was cheating or because I'm toxic, you're crazy. I've never cheated and I'm only toxic on my stream, because everything is lagging. lul"
2016-10-11 02:25
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#392
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United States f0xes`
GL oskar
2016-10-11 05:37
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oskar in Mouz?
2016-10-11 07:23
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#416
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Norway Marvi
?
2016-10-14 08:58
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#397
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Armenia gr1nch
lmao, cant believe
2016-10-11 09:32
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11
2016-10-11 10:53
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Dunno why he's sulking and taking it upon himself to carry the burden but I hope he bounces back from this. He's a good player regardless.
2016-10-11 15:59
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#413
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Norway Marvi
oskar..come back! we miss you..
2016-10-13 15:41
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noobskar go play fpl
2016-10-14 09:08
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you better come back and show em that you can be no. 1
2016-10-14 15:11
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420
2016-11-10 06:59
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