shox: "We need to work on [our mental strength]"

After G2 was eliminated from ESL One Cologne by Natus Vincere in the quarter-finals, we sat down with the team's in-game leader Richard "shox" Papillon to hear about the team's biggest struggles and what they need to fix before the Major.

The French have continued with their trend of up-and-down results, finishing 5-8th in Cologne after going 3-0 in the PGL Krakow Major Main Qualifier. In Germany, G2 dropped only one map before the playoffs, losing Cache to Ninjas in Pyjamas, but fell to Natus Vincere 2-0 in the first match of the playoffs.

shox will not have fond memories of ESL One Cologne 2017

Talking to Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon, we heard about his team's struggles with closing matches, mentality issues and facing SK.

In the group stage, you faced SK and beat them on Inferno. Historically you had a good matchup against them, currently, you are 5-1 in maps. Can you tell me why do you think you have more success than most teams do?

About the success against them, I don't really know, I just think we just kind of feel with the way they play. We kind of know stuff they love to do. We had a good start on Inferno here, but we could've put up way more round coming up to the T side. They had the double AWP setup and we could not really deal with it, especially on the B site, where FalleN really picked up a lot of kills. And we had of lot of stuff going wrong, the smokes were bad, the flashes were bad... And when you don't have the good stuff against an AWP it's kind of hard.

Coming up to the CT, I think we played a good game overall, but honestly we won the match with all the clutches we won. All the 2-on-2's, 3-on-3 retakes... We played those rounds really good and we won it. And when you win clutches like this it's way better, especially on the CT side, because of the money. I guess, if they would've had one or two clutches, then we wouldn't have so good of an economy and it would be a totally different game.

Moving on to the quarterfinals, you drew against Na`Vi, for the start tell me about the veto phase and the map pool coming in. What did you expect, what did you hope for?

Coming up to the veto we were expecting to play Train because we were thinking they would pick it. We knew we would pick Nuke because they would veto some other map and we didn't expect Cobblestone as the third because I guess it's our best map so we were expecting them to just veto it. So yeah, we were pretty confident with the map pool we got. We didn't expect them to pick Overpass, even though it's kind of their best map, but we are kind of confident on it.

And we just threw the match I guess, something like this. Even though we were confident with the map pool, I knew it would be a really hard match because Na`Vi is not a team I'm used to playing. I mean, I don't even remember when we played them the last time. And when you are not used to playing a team, it's totally different, you don't know how it will work, what are good solutions... It's the first match we played against them in months and months, so it makes it kind of 50-50 I would say.

Is that mostly your style, as an in-game leader, that you like to play against teams that you are more familiar with? Before the Major qualifier, SmithZz mentioned that you struggle against "lower teams", teams that are not that known. Is that a similar kind of struggle to the one you had against Na`Vi, not knowing them?

It's not really the same I guess, because the problems we have when we face tier 2 or 3 teams, we sometimes just underestimate them, and we should not do that because they are really good. In those matches, we don't really play our game. Players in their heads kind of think that it's already a win, we have a big problem with it. So it's not really the same problem as when we play against Na`Vi.

G2 sometimes underestimate opposition, but that didn't happen at the Major Qualifier

I wanted to touch on the second map against Na`Vi as well. It was Nuke, not a map they are famously good on, and you won both pistols, cleaned up the anti-eco rounds and still managed to lose the game. Can you tell me a bit about that, how did that happen considering Nuke is one of your best maps as well?

I think there are different points about Nuke. First, I think that we should've put up more rounds on T side, because we managed to get the pistol round, I clutched the 1v3 and we only got six rounds. So we should've gotten way more. But as I said, it's a team we don't usually play and they didn't really play a lot of Nuke, so we didn't really know what to expect from them. I guess that is why again we didn't make the best calls. 

Coming to the CT side, we had the game, we were leading 13-9 or something like that. I dont know, we have a big problem... At the beginning, we always start kind of good, we play well, everything is going great and then when we get into a good lead people just don't focus anymore. They can in their mind think "we have the time to close the game", so they try some individual stuff, try to end the game themselves, not really focus as a team and how we managed to put rounds together.

We lose these rounds, of course, and then when we start to lose two or three rounds, then the panic starts. We got a problem with our mental strength, we need to work on it. And yeah, when we lose two or three rounds straight after this, we are not playing the same wayme as we did at the beginning of the game, we are not at our best level at those moments and against teams like Na`Vi—we just lose the game. That is really stupid and we definitely need to work on it.

Looking back at the tournaments you had: the win at DreamHack, then the win at ESL Pro League, ECS you didn't go through the groups, the Major qualifier where you had a 3-0, a good result again, and here you made the quarter-finals. What do you make of that all coming into the Major?

If we look back at the last couple of events, ECS was the worst one. Even if we lost against SK and FaZe, it's not that we lost, it's how we lost. We didn't fight, we didn't have a good mentality, it was bullshit honestly, and we deserved to lose just like we did. It was definitely not a good memory I would say.

Talking about the Major qualifier, I'm kind of happy because the pressure to get to the Major makes it really hard to play against teams like BIG, FlipSid3, Immortals... All these teams that are supposed to be tier 2 teams, but who are really showing a good level and if you don't play at your best then you are just going to be beaten. I was really happy to go 3-0 and how we were able to take this event and fight till the end. That was a very good thing I would say.

Coming up to Cologne, the group stage here, we managed to play a good game against TyLoo, it's again the same thing against NiP which reminds me of ECS I would say. I don't take anything from their win, they played really good and showed that NiP is coming back, definitely, but same as ECS, I don't know... when we play late, when we play early mornings, whatever. We definitely have a problem with it. Getting up to the NiP match we played around 11pm, we waited the whole day, people getting tired, getting really pissed because there was like 5-6 overtimes in a match before, and we had to wait.

And then when you are in the game, it's same as ECS, it looks people don't even want to play. And if you don't want to play, it's the same story, you get smashed. That was definitely a bad thing, but we managed to come back stronger against Immortals and SK, that was good.

But I will not remember Cologne as a good event. Because, honestly, with our capacities, and what we want to achieve with this team, we should never play like this against NiP. It's not normal to just... Not play. SK, OK, we won, but if we don't win the clutches on CT it's a totally different game and we can lose it. And Na`Vi, we had both maps but we lose focus, we lose concentration and they come back while we can't manage to come back as well. 

Overall, looking at the three weeks, the only good thing is the Major Qualifier. I was really happy with our team. The next step for the Major will be to really focus on: "OK, this is the problem we have, we need to fix it, how can we fix it?" We won't have a lot of time, but if we want to get a good result at the Major we need to fix it in four days. We have to.

France Richard 'shox' Papillon
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Poland Homosexual
-bodyy +ZywOo
2017-07-08 14:56
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-kennys +A2z kappa
2017-07-08 15:04
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the french are pushovers - they have no mental strength.
2017-07-08 15:39
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Norway felt
they're fags I mean look at kenny, apox and nBotK
2017-07-08 16:04
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France Vipair
no scener :o
2017-07-08 21:40
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French ppl are very specific. But its all jokes lol kennys has a gf, so no they are not homosexual ;)
2017-07-08 22:55
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Norway felt
he's a fag #facts
2017-07-08 22:55
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Fact machine broke. Understandable have a nice day.
2017-07-11 23:24
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mental lol
2017-07-08 14:56
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never
2017-07-08 14:56
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Turkey vortex1g
GG2
2017-07-08 14:56
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Portugal BoPeTheBeSt
GL
2017-07-08 14:56
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RAGE APEX
2017-07-08 14:57
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Why do you put the ( ) things in the title? like why not just write the whole sentence normal.
2017-07-08 14:57
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I wonder this too.
2017-07-08 15:01
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Because it's not a direct quote and the headline can only be a few words long
2017-07-08 15:18
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So I'm guessing shox said that they justa need to work on, right? So his sentence doesnt make any sense lol
2017-07-08 15:24
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That make sense if the "of" was in the question, i guess
2017-07-08 16:06
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He said 'it' which refers to their mental strength, so they use [] to show that the meaning of the sentence remains even though it's not authentic
2017-07-08 18:03
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This... Are people so idiotic to not understand? :D
2017-07-08 20:52
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You never know people's conditions, they can have a very good reason; you must have lived that kind of situations as well :p
2017-07-08 20:56
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OMG at the major they will hyonotize the other team :o
2017-07-08 14:58
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"And we just threw the match I guess, something like this." xD
2017-07-08 15:01
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Psych coach defo needed
2017-07-08 15:11
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I'd love when he says "we threw it" lol
2017-07-08 15:12
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shox is not a good IGL, he said he didnt make the good calls because he's not used to play NAVI on overpass .. how hard is it to realise, hey guardian is playing on A alone with AWP, lets do a smoke strat, plant the bomb, and GL for them playing retake with double AWP .. it didnt happen because shox and co dont like when there is too much strats involved, they prefer to play with their big dick and challenge guardian one after the other .. well good job you got rekt.. the only strat G2 have on overpass is the B eco strats they stol from astralis months ago, and all the scene know they run it because they used it so often .. G2 tried to used it twice vs NAVI, but NAVI was os aware this was a possibility, the 2 time this strats came to them, they were 4 on B .. and G2 got rekt, again are you telling me, G2 being paid 25k/months, were not able to learn more than 1 execute on overpass withing 6 months ? or maybe they dont want to do it, maybe shox got a clear idea of how he want to lead, and no matter how tactical the scene is becoming, he want to stay in that freefall style, relying on aim rather than too complicated tactics, even if this mean G2 is easy to read.. well so much for my dream to see G2 not only win tournament, but also being a consistent team, able to gring games versus top oponements, even when they are down on the score, but able to recoverwith at least some basics tactics to rely on when the aim or the mentality fail you TBH i supported the french scene for far too long, and its always the same shit, they say we will improve blablabla, they never learn, they never change...... they piss me off EDIT : to give you an example of that last phrase, shox say they need to work on their mentality, and get better at clothing matches right ? wow this remind me of a team who had that exact same problem and solved it with a mental coach, say what you want about astralis, but at least the player do what it take to win .. trust me when i say, G2 in 6 months ? still no mental coach .. thats what i mean when i say the french scene is all blabla, they think they are above anyone else, they dont to learn anything, let us play our game and we will get there when/if we will get there... consistency ? never heard of that word ..
2017-07-08 15:23
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So they just need to change the coach? -Smithzz +???
2017-07-08 15:30
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idk but i'm definitly not conviced by smithzZ so far as well
2017-07-08 15:51
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I think he does the job, but not at 100% if you can understand me...
2017-07-08 16:09
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Yeah i defenetly agree with you this is the same problem allways. They cant play tactically they are individual players. That's the problem shox wants to play with team. You can see how many times he risks for team and they fuck it up at the end. Apex should be not allowed to be the last man standing first of all he is an entryfragger let him to what he wants he should be the only one doing the free role. Than again kennys is one who like's it. Than you look at bodyy he is and absolute monster but without experience. The only players that are team players are shox and NBK those two give alot to this team and if changes are needed they should stick together. The old g2 with lower firepower played alot better.
2017-07-08 15:40
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kinda agree on some points! Not all of them, but a lot of them definitely... French scene is typically.... French mentality I guess? idk it seems all the teams make the same mistakes at some points in their management of a "team"
2017-07-08 15:42
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most retarded post of the year shame u r french stupid kid
2017-07-08 15:52
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"most ratded point" ok i think everyone realised there was more than one point here, also nice facts, do you disagree? why? do you have counter opinions ? no ? fuck off then you dont intrest me.. "shame u r french " why should all french think the same on how CS should be played ? should i support shox blindly even if i dont agree with his IGL ? once again a great show of you intelligence "stupid kid" i'm 32
2017-07-08 15:56
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u r allowed to have different point of view, but you just saying shit thinking its a fact. all of what u say show only one evidence: u have no idea of how G2 is playing. And u probably dont see all their matchs or u r not able to analyse anything. Making relationship between a loss and salary is just dumb as hell. one execute on overpass ? my god how can u believe what u say. Of course you are not a shox lover and who care ? u are just a hater as always in your posts. i suppose u r a Ex6 or happy's fan. Liquid better tactically ? thanks for laught And 32 years old and kid is compatible you r the perfect example
2017-07-09 14:32
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"u r allowed to have different point of view, but you just saying shit thinking its a fact." well at least i give detailed examples of what G2 did, said what i would like to see them do better, talked about concretes fact with what i think is constructive critisism, no i'm not a shox hater, i just disagree with some of his way of thinking.. what did YOU bring to the table, where are your counter opinions to what i said, give me a concrete one, instead of sayin "you're bad" "you understand nothing at the game" lets be honest kids, when you say i understand nothing at the game .. pot, kettle , black
2017-07-09 14:38
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also, lets be honest, there is not much difference between any NA team and G2 right now, thats how low they are tactical wise ... sure they have a lot of fire power, but shox T side is as basic as a stewie2k or a tarik would call ... even liquid is better tactically than G2 imo, or equal ..
2017-07-08 16:16
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Agree with you.Shox worst igl i haver seen i always saying this.Still saying same shit we need to work on our mental strength lol.No dude you need to work on strats and tactics and stop rushing like retards.13-7 at overpass losing usp lol.Did you watch him at b side inferno aganist Sk?i dont know whats his problem but someone need to talk with him and this guy was talking about how they are going to change their game style tactics and thinking about long term lol.it is same as old envyus or g2 nothing changed sice months.
2017-07-08 17:49
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"and stop rushing like retards.13-7 at overpass losing usp lol" thats what he mean by mental strenght .. when you tilt you play fpl and do stupid pushes ..
2017-07-08 17:50
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but why tilt? you already at 13-7 and they are on the eco and first map of bo3 how you tilting i dont understand?
2017-07-08 17:52
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he explain this in the interview, and it has to do with mental strenght again, when you're ahead you think you already won the game, play individually and stupid pushes, then when you start to lose multiple rounds, you tilt.. dude next time read the itv lol
2017-07-08 17:54
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i dont think this all about mental strenghtl.This excuse for shox.they dont have tactics after all this months.They are always rushing not when winning so this not we already won mentality anyway i hope they are ready for major.
2017-07-08 17:58
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i agree, thats also what i said in my post
2017-07-08 17:59
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When you compare G2's style to the one they use on faze or sk it's almost painful to watch...
2017-07-08 17:55
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oh yeah definitly ..
2017-07-08 17:56
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You're clearly taking only a few games into accounts, I'd like you to watch every G2's demo for the last 2 months. They've got a lot of wins being just way better tactically. The fact is that they're a bit similar to VP, one time they could beat any team, the following game they get crashed with very poor IGL. Btw, I totally agree that SK and FaZe currently have the very-top of in-game leading, my favorite team in terms of tactic being SK
2017-07-08 18:09
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i dont agree for multiple reasons .. first we compare G2 to the top3, WOW G2 can win games vs top 15 teams , damn thats nice, i'm 100% sure thats not what they are aiming at .. and VP, mate this isnt 2015/16 anymore, you cant freefall vs top teams nowdays and expect to be consistent, and so far G2 didnt proove they can win tournament yet .. by that i mean, yeah they won ESL, vs north (i mean comon) and dreamhack tour .. its very simple, these days you cant afford to be weak tactically if you aim to be consistent in the top4 (and lets be honnest, when carlos agreed to pay these guys the most $ of anyone on the scene, that is to be able to compete vs thoss teams)
2017-07-08 20:51
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G2 aren't weak tactically, just watch demos / matches. They're still Top 4
2017-07-08 20:55
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their t side is weak af
2017-07-08 20:56
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T side, yeah generally they're depending on their aim.. But that's not always the case, and they're at least as good as SK as CT
2017-07-08 20:57
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they counter SK, thats one thing, also CT rely more on personal skill as you're suppose to hold, rather than T side is teamplay based.. but G2 have a lot of flaws anyway.. even on overpass, like i said, not once we saw a A execute on overpass vs guardian alone, rather than that they went big dick play and got rekt miserably ... all they needed was a smoke heavy execute.. after 6 months, they dont have one, even C9 with stewie calling manage to do better .. no G2 arent good tactically (compared to the top 3, faze, sk, astralis) doesnt mean they cant beat them, mean G2 cant be on fire everyday, they have 0 consistency
2017-07-08 21:01
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Okay, I agree for the T side; even though they invented some well-thought executes (I'm thinking about the B of Overpass). Obviously they're weak compared to the very top as T, I was taking lower teams into account. I'm still holding my opinion about the CT side, in terms of stuff, positions, skill, baits, they're more than decent and can deal with the top 3 teams.
2017-07-08 21:05
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"I'm thinking about the B of Overpass)." you realise thats the only only execute they showed in months, and they took it from astralis, Gla1ve invented that execute, NBK even said it on twitter
2017-07-08 21:06
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So you aren't talking about the same one
2017-07-08 21:07
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they have only one, since they have started this new lineup, they have never showed another B execute than this anti eco one ..
2017-07-08 21:09
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That wasn't an anti-eco however. No need to debate roughly, we kinda agree on the same points !
2017-07-08 21:10
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I am a supporter of the french scene but I totally get your point. They threw the game against navi, it was their series to lose and they lost it.
2017-07-08 17:54
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G2's tac. pauses work quite well, and SmithZz's the only one speaking.
2017-07-08 21:11
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I am not criticizing Smithzz, rather than the whole team style which is not all upon smithzz's shoulders. If G2 want to be the best team they are far behind the competition, and not just because of a lack of mental strength.
2017-07-09 10:39
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agree
2017-07-09 16:06
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Smithzz needs a coach so he can coach properly lul
2017-07-08 19:48
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TL;DR? :D
2017-07-08 20:55
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no :>
2017-07-08 20:56
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They may have just saved some strats yo shine in the Major. Just MAYBE, I am not Smithzz or g2 manager, wherever
2017-07-09 19:47
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yeah, i was wondering this myself, but gotta be realistic, its unlikely. time will tell i guess
2017-07-09 19:48
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The way g2 team is so unique makes me not to worry anymore bout how their performance will be, I only cheer and wait for the best of them. Everything can happen, absolutely.
2017-07-09 19:55
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Maybe cuz they are french?? xd
2017-07-09 19:55
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thats called being inconsistent, if you're a real fan, thats not what you want
2017-07-09 20:40
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I dont really consider It being inconsistent. The only tournament with no excuse is ECS. the qualifier was great and a quarterfinals exit right before the major, I dont consider being being inconsistent. LETS see what happens in Major. Gl g2
2017-07-09 20:44
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nahh you just need to contact fallen`s coder he`s pretty good these days, those toggles are barely seeing on gotv
2017-07-08 15:19
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> And when you are not used to playing a team, it's totally different, you don't know how it will work, what are good solutions To figure out those things you should use yourself and your wife SmithZz to watch their demos and counter-strat them, it shouldn't be hard because seized is not an IGL and he's forced to do it because they kicked Zeus. Looks like someone didn't do his homework and that's why lost 0-2. > SmithZz mentioned that you struggle against "lower teams" They have just called Na`Vi a lower tier team xD Now I'm happy they got raped. > the problems we have when we face tier 2 or 3 teams, we sometimes just underestimate them I guess it's bullshit. When you know what team you will play against you should watch their demos and think of how to play, but you lazy fucks only look at their recent results and think "ok they're noobs so we can just run'n'gun ez np". You and SmithZz should do your job. > it's a team we don't usually play and they didn't really play a lot of Nuke, so we didn't really know what to expect from them Hey HLTV guys, did you see anything special from Na`Vi on nuke? I mean, Na`Vi threw basic nades and rushed like in MM and won the duels, G2 should've only won those 1vX 2vX battles and that's it, Na`Vi doesn't play nuke, so to lose this map to them is just shameful. You guys should focus on the game, practise more and make up strats rather than think "ok we have shox and kennyS and it's enough". And you got lucky that the major is being played in a swiss system again, at least you won't get to a group with SK and FaZe.
2017-07-08 15:20
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they did not call na'vi a lower tier team, learn to read
2017-07-08 15:32
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+1
2017-07-08 15:46
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France France98123
just plain hate and it seem you didnt even read the interview or did not understand it.. 0/8
2017-07-08 16:07
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#75
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Sweden Div-\
+1 I agree with you sir.
2017-07-08 17:57
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You just need to stop leading. Your reference is KRL.... Lol
2017-07-08 15:29
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#36
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France cedd
IMO g2 just really need to improve their strategy book so to speak. Teams like fnatic, g2, na'vi, who are pretty shit now tactically and play very loose are getting owned by the consistent teamwork and better strategy of SK/FaZe/Astralis. "We didn't know how to counter on overpass" is just a weak excuse. The sad part is it wasn't always like this with shox leading, he used to have way better strats and was leading the scoreboard in the past. Now he gets like 65 adr every match, and I see nothing impressive. I don't know wtf is going on but they need to rethink how they're playing IMO. They could learn a thing or two from watching SK demos, even if they seem to counter them well. Also, these guys have always had an attitude problem as well. As soon as something goes wrong they get insta tilted then make mistakes.
2017-07-08 15:39
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#56
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France France98123
agreed , and even if G2 doesnt want to the old rigide style of ex6tenz, they need a minimum of tactic strategies for each situation to rely on.. doesnt mean the outcome of each situation will be known, as its always different and you cant prepare for that, but at least they have something to rely on .. right now, sure they have aim.. but when this fail they cant recover, they need to spend a LOT more time doing theory, for a few months, like G2 say, they grew so much as a team when they did bootcamp at the start of the lineup, but ofc this was only 2 weeks, that not enought, these day you need to dedicate each week a certain amount of hours doing theory, even if this is not the most fun thing to do..
2017-07-08 16:12
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#77
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Sweden Div-\
+1 Another true point.
2017-07-08 17:59
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#46
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Syria JavaCSGO
when u have players such as Apex or kennyS ull never have a strong mentality.
2017-07-08 15:52
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#47
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Ukraine Pham_
You need to - NBK + Scream
2017-07-08 15:54
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#61
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Norway felt
Shox doesn't want to play with ScreaM, same with NBK.
2017-07-08 16:41
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why Shox???
2017-07-08 21:15
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#103
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France Telt
Still people seeing NBK as bad or just prefering ScreaM (who was awesome under Shox's lead) ?
2017-07-08 21:12
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#51
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Poland mamba99999
In G2 I trust, at least top 4 at the major.
2017-07-08 16:00
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nah you guys just need to work on t side lul
2017-07-08 16:24
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#116
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France France98123
agreed.. more tactics, more theory, sure its boring, but it will pay off at tournaments, remember the things you are paid 25k months to win, and vs top teams, not only north ..
2017-07-09 12:48
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If it was only on mental they have to work.... fucking lazy shits overpaid
2017-07-08 16:25
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#62
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Turkey kad1rb
GOD
2017-07-08 17:15
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#64
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Germany pilpast
"Players in their heads kind of think that it's already a win" and they say north are cocky
2017-07-08 17:23
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#105
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rain | 
France Telt
He's just honest and that's fine; if you were playing against 3 ranks lower players, knowing it would you play at your best ?
2017-07-08 21:13
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#107
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Germany pilpast
but this is not a MM lol
2017-07-08 21:31
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#108
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rain | 
France Telt
"we shouldn't because they're really good"
2017-07-08 21:32
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1 reply
#110
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Germany pilpast
yes but that's after the game is lost due to being cocky ..
2017-07-08 21:46
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#79
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Malaysia phyzell
Get rid a lousy coach or finger-pointing players. CSGO is about finding out whether you're gifted or not.
2017-07-08 18:00
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#85
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Other Malda4
No need to be genius to understand that apEX make them lose focus all game long.....
2017-07-08 20:09
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#114
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United States rokofe
I thought NA were supposed to be the arrogant cocky douche bags, but damn man go ahead and pave the way
2017-07-09 12:19
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#115
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Primnix | 
Cyprus konapraiwe
It's not really the same I guess, because the problems we have when we face tier 2 or 3 teams, we sometimes just underestimate them, and we should not do that because they are really good. shox and G2 so toxic, how could u underestimate teams... ban g2 from all events please
2017-07-09 12:21
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#122
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Europe AgainstNoBrain
thanks speaking Bulgaria dont need to ban u btw
2017-07-09 17:49
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#129
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Bulgaria maTriZ
G2 will comeback they are french masters with insane players! :)
2017-07-09 22:44
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#130
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Europe MaDaRa99
No, you just need to give NBK ,apEX and SmithZz to nV, take back ScreaM and RPK. Voila, both teams are better.
2017-07-10 13:36
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GOOD
2017-07-10 17:40
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