Beta update with changes to the Glock, P250 and aimpunch

13-9-2017 11:43

The latest CS:GO Beta update brings new changes to pistols, continuing on on the path of "emphasizing skillful use of the weapons".

The "1.36.0.3-rc1" update, that has been released to the Beta depot, brings new changes to pistols. The Glock, which was unchanged for years, received a buff in base damage and slight buffs in moving accuracy and rapid fire accuracy. On the flip side, the damage at longer distances has been reduced, making the default Terrorist pistol even weaker in long-range battles.

Seemingly balancing it out is the change to the P250, which now rewards longer range engagements against unarmored opponents. The $300 gun now has increased base damage and higher damage at longer instances, but less armor penetration and moving accuracy.

It is important to note that, due to the drop off in armor penetration, the P250 can no longer one-shot helmeted opponents which have full health.

Adding to that, a big change has been made to unarmored aimpunch, which is now significantly reduced, making players without a kevlar vest much more dangerous in duels.

The full list of changes for 9/12/2017 Beta update is available below:

[GAMEPLAY]

Significantly reduced unarmored aimpunch.
Additional changes to pistols with the goal of emphasizing skillful use of the weapons.
Glock: Slight adjustments favoring accurate players who close the distance to their opponent.
- Increased base damage
- Reduced damage at longer distances
- Slightly improved accuracy while firing rapidly
- Slightly improved accuracy while moving
P250: The P250 has been adjusted to reward longer-distance engagements, particularly against unarmored opponents.
- Increased base damage
- Reduced armor penetration
- Improved damage at longer distances
- Reduced accuracy while moving

Really nice update! Now i will enjoy this game even more!!! I LOVE GABEN

2017-09-13 11:44

1 reply

good update, valve plz continue this

2017-09-13 15:05

Gg nerfed afain

2017-09-13 11:44

24 replies

"nerfs to promote SKILLFUL USE" Slightly improved accuracy while firing rapidly Slightly improved accuracy while moving LMAOOOO

2017-09-13 11:48

23 replies

It s good. That is what the glock should do: run and gun. Glock and tec should be the only pistols good foe that and they will surely be after valve finished repairing the game. Atm everything they did is pretty good.

2017-09-13 11:53

19 replies

skillful use is running and spamming mouse 1 lmaooo they literally nerfed tec-9 and five-seven to worse accuracy while moving to PROMOTE SKILLFUL USE

2017-09-13 11:53

18 replies

2017-09-13 11:56

The T side needs that run and gun in order to get on site. Otherwise they run P250 without armour or just get picked off at a distance by the CT starter pistols. It encourages a more explosive style of site entry to counter out prolonged pistol duels which the CTs more often than not win.

2017-09-13 12:02

11 replies

explosive style =/= skillful style running and spamming mouse 1 isnt skillful.... otherwise just go buy p90 every round

2017-09-13 12:03

10 replies

You would rather the T side rely on taking unfavourable duels because they cannot afford to have the utility required for a full execute and purchase body armour? The glock is rubbish at range, even more so now. The idea is to balance it out so that CTs have a massive advantage until the Ts are up close.

2017-09-13 12:09

4 replies

Lol the glock was not shit at long range beforehand. If people actually tapped and aimed instead of spamming they'd get more kills

2017-09-13 14:24

3 replies

Name a gun in the game that's worse than the glock at long range in terms of damage and accuracy. It's kind of hard to say a gun isn't bad at range when it's inferior to literally every other option in the game.

2017-09-13 18:51

2 replies

maybe hes talkin abt the pistol round as the cts dont have head armor and if u hit a hs, the aimpunch is significant for the cts to mess up their aim

2017-09-14 08:24

1 reply

It's still an irrelevant point, the CT pistols are notably stronger in this regard.

2017-09-15 20:16

It's the glock you doughnut who uses past round 1 anyway with any effect?

2017-09-13 12:09

1 reply

did you really just fucking say that leave this site and never come back

2017-09-13 12:15

Ts are supposed to gather up and close the distance on pistols in order to win the round, but with the P250 update, I feel like a lot of the teams will now have 1 guy dropping 2 P250's on pistol rounds, so the guys with armor can 1tap USP's. Glock is better than before, although I wish they buffed burst fire. Tec9 got nerfed into shit and will remain shit as long as tagging ain't a thing. Five-seven got buffed, BUT you need to be standing still aka no running'n'gunning as a CT. P250 no 1bullet headshot means that even if you get dinked, there's a good chance you'll rape him with a rifle if you're any decent.

2017-09-13 14:13

1 reply

+111111

2017-09-13 16:12

Bro, moving accuracy is so you can move like a team instead of waiting while you rush and completely fuck up your push. Don't talk about skill when you don't even know what context a gun is surposed to be used in.

2017-09-13 14:58

tec9 wasnt nerfed. its more accurate now so you dont need to spam as many bulletls to get a kill. its only nerfed if youre literally braindead pushing random buttons while clicking as fast as you can

2017-09-13 12:15

2 replies

Agree, it was a change, not a nerf. I still using it and like it more than before, so much easy to do headshot CTs while moving.

2017-09-13 12:55

1 reply

Yeah, Scream should be happy.

2017-09-13 14:06

If your aim is shit you still cant hit shit

2017-09-13 12:44

The glock is shit anyways, the buff is fine.

2017-09-13 13:27

Here is a little help for those who didn't figure out the current viability of the pistoles: on the tech9 and 57 changes: youtube.com/watch?v=i-yyf7L4UtA he surely gonna have a video on the glock and p250 on his channel: youtube.com/user/3kliksphilip

2017-09-13 12:50

nice job omitting the nerfs uzbek....glock is now worse at long range.

2017-09-13 15:15

1 reply

stfu low noob :)

2017-09-13 15:16

fucking nice

2017-09-13 11:44

Rip

2017-09-13 11:44

let's go t

2017-09-13 11:44

IS CSGO GETTING BETTER

2017-09-13 11:44

GLOCK IS BACK

2017-09-13 11:45

nice but rip long range

2017-09-13 11:45

17 replies

thank god they reduced p250 running accuracy

2017-09-13 11:45

16 replies

yeah xDD i lost 5 faceit games 16-13/16-14 because they were just running around on eco with p250 or 5-7

2017-09-13 11:52

15 replies

No, it's because u are bad

2017-09-13 12:14

14 replies

no its because you are 25yo virgin being rude. Maybe you are the one who is dogshit and runs around with p250.

2017-09-13 12:15

13 replies

play better positions where you cant suddenly get run over by pistols. note that this requires teammates who cover you.

2017-09-13 12:17

12 replies

''note that this requires teammates who cover you.'' hmm yeah xdddd even if i play with mates its the same.

2017-09-13 12:17

11 replies

thats because you play every anti eco like it was a gun round. take better positions.

2017-09-13 12:18

8 replies

i am taking good positions but what can i do when they all run at me and my teammate is looking at me dying LOL. Now at least i will have more chance to get 2+kills

2017-09-13 12:19

7 replies

Link to faceit or u r a bot and i'll kill cuz no you'll prove

2017-09-13 12:36

U are just bad. 0 knowledge about cs. Typical pathetic newfag

2017-09-13 12:48

link to faceit match where that happened

2017-09-13 13:42

and this confirms it you just being bad. try to use your brain a bit more when you play instead of your hands, if it's possible.

2017-09-13 18:14

LMAO BE GONE VIRGINS u al lthink you are good LMAO did u fap yet ??

2017-09-13 19:21

2 replies

>Virgin >Insult Pick one, uneducated terrorist

2017-09-15 12:47

1 reply

kazakhstan stupid pick both

2017-09-15 17:00

for example on train, go heaven or sit on a train instead of going close to ivy or main or pop

2017-09-13 12:19

1 reply

and on b site play retake? and on b site mirage, sit in the shop and let them plant?

2017-09-13 20:00

GLAWKS

2017-09-13 11:45

yay as if the game was not enough T sided.

2017-09-13 11:45

10 replies

Only T sided maps are Cache and Cobblestone, like what?

2017-09-13 11:51

9 replies

Sure

2017-09-13 11:51

Sure sure. Dust2 is also slightly T sided. In mm at least.

2017-09-13 12:02

3 replies

I'm talking about the map pool used in the pro scene, if not, why don't we add Office and Assault as T sided maps too then?

2017-09-13 12:04

1 reply

you forgot italy m8

2017-09-13 12:12

MM lol.... wtffff

2017-09-13 15:09

Cache is CT sided you coconut Inferno is T sided though

2017-09-13 12:53

1 reply

Opinion =/= Fact look at recent cache matches in the pro scene . The meta changed now cache even tho it depends on the teams and playstyle is slightly t sided

2017-09-13 13:35

We need tuscan :(

2017-09-13 13:28

1 reply

Oh yes we do

2017-09-14 23:22

rip

2017-09-13 11:45

uou nice one , finaly the cs:go is not a call of duty

2017-09-13 11:45

Very cool update.

2017-09-13 11:46

GLAWKS

2017-09-13 11:46

is this jusy real life

2017-09-13 11:46

So basically Volvo wants full eco rounds to be more competetive.

2017-09-13 11:47

1 reply

competitive

2017-09-13 11:47

Slowly, but surely, we're inching back to 1.6

2017-09-13 11:47

5 replies

Aimpunch in 1.6 was huge tho

2017-09-13 11:58

2 replies

0/8

2017-09-13 14:42

Wat, no it wasn't. 1.6 aimpunch with chest/stomach shots is lower than the current CSGO version. 1.6 headshot aimpunch when you have no helmet is huge though. Now this beta update lowers the CSGO chest/stomach aimpunch to be like 1.6.

2017-09-13 23:24

Good or bad?

2017-09-13 13:36

1 reply

Very nice

2017-09-13 14:25

bad

2017-09-13 11:47

the damage at longer distances has been reduced, making the default Terrorist pistol even weaker in long-range battles. PFFFFFFFFFFFFf

2017-09-13 11:47

2 replies

yeah but imagine rushing a/b on cache now

2017-09-13 11:48

just use smoke to come close and ez win *dab*

2017-09-13 11:58

So P250 still 1 hit headshot with helmet at even further range? A $300 weapon should not be 1 hit headshot when $3000 weapon isn't.

2017-09-13 11:47

8 replies

Reduced armor penetration

2017-09-13 11:52

1 reply

2017-09-13 11:55

You should read the article before commenting

2017-09-13 12:03

"It is important to note that, due to the drop off in armor penetration, the P250 can no longer one-shot helmeted opponents which have full health."

2017-09-13 12:06

-UK flag ironic isnt it?

2017-09-13 15:01

1 reply

truly, it is.

2017-09-13 20:04

Hi HLTV I would like delete one comment plz.

2017-09-13 21:59

1 reply

LUL

2017-09-13 23:22

Good glock buff but p250 increased base damage what !? It was cancer before now its even stronger ?

2017-09-13 11:48

10 replies

p250 has lesser armor penetration and cannot one shot helmeted opponents so it's a nerf. Glock can 2 shot helmeted opponents but good luck with that... Overall I think it's good, nerfing the pistols means it's gonna be much more difficult to win eco rounds with only pistols. Full deag eco rounds incoming.

2017-09-13 11:54

8 replies

If you cant kill people with 1 hit thats good thing but still reduced aim punch is a buff and also i see that glock pretty much become the new tec 9 . Just imagine a 5 man glock rush in relative short distance sites like on cache , its unstoppable basically , how can you counter that?

2017-09-13 12:01

6 replies

But tec9 did more damage than glock and glock armor penetration is not good right? Ofc if you don't have helmet you are screwed... But that depends on the positions you play, in any case against eco rushes one is supposed to play the long angles/long distances fights, and if close fights have helmet to prevent 1 shot and throwing mollies so they don't rush at you. Imho it will be more difficult to win eco rounds with rushes. At least I hope so (still possible tho, of course).

2017-09-13 12:01

5 replies

Im not talking about eco im talking about pistol rounds , if t's do a 5 man rush its gg with a flash well thrown and a smoke maybe. And even in eco rounds you can do some damage , man the running accuracy buff its always scary af

2017-09-13 12:05

4 replies

Whoops sorry mate, I did not get that you were talking about the pistol round. Yes in that case you are right, winning pistols as CTs will be more difficult. Perhaps they are going to improve USP 1 shot accuracy recovery time and running accuracy aswell?

2017-09-13 12:07

3 replies

Idk if they wanna make usp a lazer but i definetly think pistol rounds are out of balance now at the first sight... the 5 man glock train its scary

2017-09-13 12:10

2 replies

Yeah you are definitely right :/

2017-09-13 12:11

Well in a ct sided game its nice to see Ts winning pistol

2017-09-13 21:38

Everyone is cheating so to get 2 hs with glock is no problem, VAC is shit

2017-09-13 12:11

Reduced armor penetration

2017-09-13 11:55

Nice, now bring 128 tickrate, better vac and source 2

2017-09-13 11:49

2 replies

+1 FERGOD TOP 1!

2017-09-13 11:56

1 reply

2017-09-13 16:40

Good update tbh

2017-09-13 11:49

T rush B only

2017-09-13 11:50

buffing glawks? i guess more running and shooting for me

2017-09-13 11:51

Yeey

2017-09-13 11:54

I think what they are doing sometimes is going wrong. Tec9 and 57 are a shit.. CZ is so better and probably they'll nerf it too. About Glock and p250 I liked. I still didn't try, but I think now it's going well.. They can't just remove the damage, increase the recoil.. I am waiting for changes at Dual Berettas. P90 of pistols

2017-09-13 11:54

1 reply

2017-09-13 11:57

Ez p250

2017-09-13 11:54

Expected (no)

2017-09-13 11:56

Significantly reduced unarmored aimpunch. why?

2017-09-13 11:56

3 replies

It's good imo because it was impossible to get a kill if you get shot first

2017-09-13 12:49

2 replies

yea try to get a kill with bullet in your chest

2017-09-13 18:55

1 reply

according to this logic there should be huge aimpunch even with kevlar

2017-09-13 20:07

Not sure about the glock, but the P250 and aimpunch changes are great! We've needed those for absolutely ages.

2017-09-13 11:57

9 replies

yeah reduced aimpunch is exactly what this game needed......pfft

2017-09-13 12:01

8 replies

If you don't think 1.6's aimpunch system was better than GO's, I think we should study your brain for abnormalities. I probably exaggerated saying we 'needed' this, but it's a positive change without a doubt

2017-09-14 00:29

7 replies

I see the sarcasm of my comment went way over your head xD

2017-09-14 01:44

6 replies

How is that sarcasm? The fin owned you and now it's sarcasm... pffft.

2017-09-14 08:39

2 replies

are you fucking retarded? "yeah reduced aimpunch is exactly what this game needed......pfft" why tf you think I put "pffft" lmfao are you really this dumb oyu little kid? If you want me to explain it to you like a baby my comment meant "THE LAST THING THIS GAME NEEDS IS REDUCED AIM PUNCH" fucking Scandinavians 0 sense of personality only somalia

2017-09-14 15:26

1 reply

Yeah thats what i meant. So why did you say to him that it was sarcasm when he understood it and gave you an answer? You didn't reply to his last comment, just said it was sarcasm as if you agreed with him. But i do agree with you. The aimpunch update is not something i want. Maybe alittle tweak but not this. Yes i tested the beta.

2017-09-15 04:42

Not at all, I wasn't agreeing with you. I conceded that I may have over-exaggerated when making my point, but that it's still intrinsically a valid point.

2017-09-14 10:23

2 replies

Well you obviously want more aimpunch because you gave the 1.6 example...whcih is exactly what my comment was just in a sarcastic tone, as I said to that spastic above I couldn't make it more clear that it was sarcasm why else wouldt I put "....pffft" in the end of it if it's LESS aimpunch that I'm vouching for ? As I said reduced aimpunch = cancer

2017-09-14 15:28

1 reply

The way aimpunch was handled was different though. I don't want more, I want it to be handled less ridiculously

2017-09-14 16:04

Can imagine the aimpunch part of the update will be a significant change to the game, will be interesting to see what happens.

2017-09-13 11:59

1 reply

Lets hope they make it similar to 1.6

2017-09-13 22:47

okay, its a good thing that they reduced the accuracy while moving and shooting with the p250, but why would they add more damage on long range and overall? just nerf the gun, dont change it wth

2017-09-13 11:59

4 replies

It was nerfed. They reduced a amour penatraction so you can't get 1 shot killed with it anymore. Granted if your unamoured and on a eco it does more damage. But how often do you really have to eco in a game.

2017-09-13 12:54

1 reply

It has greater 1 shot range against non-helmets than the USP tho but it's also less spammy, I think it balances out

2017-09-13 13:54

You know that nerfing = changing it? So your last sentence doesn't make sense :)

2017-09-13 15:17

1 reply

yes it does if you could actually read :)

2017-09-13 17:12

BETA UPDATE WITH CHANGES....(TO DUST2).... TO THE GLOCK, P250 AND AIMPUNCH :(((((((((((((

2017-09-13 11:59

Lmao rip ct side pistol rounds

2017-09-13 12:08

1 reply

Why? CT's still have the long range advantage.

2017-09-13 13:40

2nd round force buys with ump's and nades instead of pistol armor incoming.

2017-09-13 12:09

They forgot to rework burst on Glock. I miss the times in 1.6 when it was possible to jump and burst opponent like Neo vs mTw > youtube.com/watch?v=dxkFHt0Udvk

2017-09-13 12:14

p250 on t side pistol round new meta

2017-09-13 12:23

Weird changes...

2017-09-13 12:26

2 replies

They make perfect sense.

2017-09-13 13:40

1 reply

run'n'gun and mad spraying do not require much skill

2017-09-15 23:08

just fix fps u noobs...

2017-09-13 12:29

lets see

2017-09-13 12:29

Nerf the AWP ffs

2017-09-13 12:30

GOD GLAAAAWKS

2017-09-13 12:37

Good thing the worst weapon got a buff. Now, the Bizon is the worst.

2017-09-13 12:46

Glock: "Reduced damage at longer distances" Lol... glock is already fuck'd up ! now TE can leave glock and go knife all pistols rounds..

2017-09-13 13:07

4 replies

dumbass don't understand anything about pistol rounds

2017-09-13 13:09

3 replies

yeah.. yeah.. ppl

2017-09-13 13:10

2 replies

are you the type to go solo and die first in the pistol round?

2017-09-13 14:27

1 reply

2017-09-13 15:04

cs getting ruined more and more every update ='(

2017-09-13 13:12

NOT P250 NO

2017-09-13 13:14

this game is a joke nerfing p250

2017-09-13 13:15

volvo is retarded

2017-09-13 13:18

these changes will be ..........

2017-09-13 13:21

Moving accuracy is better now. Are you kidding? Everybody tired of this headshots while running.

2017-09-13 13:29

Looks like a great update!

2017-09-13 13:39

Glock was already a weapon that is very good for run and gun. Valve's emphasis on pistols in this game is making it easier for uncoordinated solo plays which equals to worse game overall as cs is supposed to be a tactical team effort

2017-09-13 13:42

2 replies

Tactical team effort xdddd. Have you ever played MM?

2017-09-13 14:56

1 reply

I laughed so hard xdd

2017-09-14 08:43

inb4 next update chroma case 4

2017-09-13 13:45

The P250 is in a great spot right now, it feels weird that it can 1 shot from ranges greater than the USP in pistol rounds but it's less spammy at least, so it balances out imo I tested both the Glock and P250 in the beta and to me it feels like the Glock actually has either the same or higher 1 shot range...? Am I just imagining things? Either way, good update overall

2017-09-13 13:57

3 changes at once?! what have we done to deserve that?! I hope they didnt work too much to make this possible...

2017-09-13 14:28

2 replies

PUBG

2017-09-13 15:02

1 reply

Do u really think Gaben tries to counter PUBG by tweaking pistols slightly? lol No, they are rolling out that pistol rework now before the next major cycle begins.

2017-09-13 17:27

Well, to justify P250 nerf it have to be followed up by USP-S and P2k nerfs imo, because at this point I don't see point in buying the gun on CT side in this updated state. Glock.:( Takes much less skill to use, but piss poor armor pen didn't change. :(

2017-09-13 14:33

aimpunch significantly reduced is so fucking stupid... why favor the guy/team with less money?

2017-09-13 14:43

3 replies

Why not?

2017-09-13 14:50

2 replies

why not? why should the team that loses rounds be able to just buy a gun and not vest and still be dangerous? all it does it favor the team with less money.

2017-09-13 14:54

1 reply

It doesn't favor the team with no money. It just gives them a slightly higher chance to win an eco round instead of being insta fucked by the aim punch.

2017-09-13 16:36

I feel like this is encouraging braindead forcebuys...

2017-09-13 14:48

FINALLY! GLAWKS

2017-09-13 14:55

wtf are these updates?? Making glock do even less damage from distance...making P250 more OP with more damage...

2017-09-13 15:03

4 replies

but the p250 is less effective against armored opponents, no more 1 shot headshot.

2017-09-13 15:35

2 replies

pistol rounds you can literally run over everyone with it now.

2017-09-13 16:45

1 reply

No? You have to stand still

2017-09-13 19:00

Did you only read the first lines of each gun, or are you just that stupid?

2017-09-15 10:51

Did they make the recoil greater or they just increased the spread/inaccuracy??? those are 2 very different things that ppl often forget.....

2017-09-13 15:06

So now.. The dmg of Glock in long distances is... 5?

2017-09-13 15:50

Now, please remove the aimpunch from armored. Just completely.

2017-09-13 16:33

p250 and aimpunch is nice, but the glock one, I can just imagine noobs with no aim running and spamming their left mouse butonn and getting frags this way

2017-09-13 16:39

5 replies

Well they would still have to aim at you while running to kill you

2017-09-15 10:52

4 replies

yes

2017-09-15 10:57

3 replies

Just 1tap them with your usp/p2k before they get up close then it's np

2017-09-15 10:59

2 replies

what I meant is, that it'll be now a bit easier to run and gun accurately in the lower ranks

2017-09-15 11:16

1 reply

That is true :)

2017-09-17 01:35

what about the no smoke exploit? volvo pls

2017-09-13 17:03

2 replies

is fixed already i think

2017-09-13 17:06

It is already fixed

2017-09-13 17:28

Yes! I can glass cannon with less fear of the dreaded aimpunch! huraah!

2017-09-13 17:51

Significantly reduced unarmored aimpunch. will be so happy.

2017-09-13 18:27

WTF A GOOD UPDATE?

2017-09-13 18:57

Less aimpunch what?????? GL on anti ecos now when everyone buys dgl no armor

2017-09-13 18:59

Rip forcing a p250 and a flash every round to at least one tap 1 or 2 people on ecos. I guess it's a bit more useful on T now but you can't gay people with it on CT. Overall good changes to make the game more competitive.

2017-09-13 19:17

but it's still 1 bullet hs at close range right? this is the main problem with p250

2017-09-13 19:44

1 reply

no, 2 shots on close range too

2017-09-14 04:30

2 more pistol nerfs and we will start using Revolvers. I see what you are doing Volvo

2017-09-13 19:51

one of the better updates lately, but still slow af. where are the severe changes, the major updates? the announced ui? performance optimiziation? 2017 year of AC? hello?

2017-09-13 20:06

Yep better reduce it you foucking twaats, rifles aren't cheap stuff meant for long range combats.

2017-09-13 20:42

Rip my p250 only games

2017-09-13 23:24

Fuck this game. I have the best p250 in csgo. Now I am nothing in game.

2017-09-14 02:25

hopefully i wait the nerf for p90 mp7 mp9 and fix the tickrate

2017-09-14 03:11

I'm going back to 1.6..... cya :D

2017-09-14 04:43

Ok, can anyone explain to me what is the purpose of nerfing the pistols? And the UMP as well. I mean, they are changing guns in a way that the team with less money will have less chance of winning the rounds. So the game will be based on building the economy basicaly. That's boring imo, cause it will be a matter of managing the teams money in the end. Skill will play a secondary role. Sometimes a game becomes interesting when a team out of the blue wins a forced-buy round. Valve is taking this away. The only good update for the ecos is the aimpunch thing.

2017-09-14 05:05