ESEA adds age restriction to MDL rules

3-1-2018 18:39

ESEA has added a minimum age requirement of 16 for the MDL Season 27, making many rising talents ineligible to compete in the league.

With registration for ESEA S27 already open, an updated tournament rulebook now mentions that "players under the age of sixteen (16) years old cannot compete in the MDL divisions", either in Europe or in North America.

This new rule impacts many young talents who have been competing in MDL, including eXtatus' David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský, Fragsters' Martin "⁠stavn⁠" Lund, Ghost Academy's Jason "⁠neptune⁠" Tran and SoaR's Ryan "⁠Snakes⁠" Amann.

frozen unable to play in MDL under the new rules

On Twitter, ESEA Product Manager Brett "Few" Sheffield mentioned that more information about the rule changes for Season 27 will be announced soon and stressed that it will not affect the S26 Global Challenge event, where both neptune and Snakes will be in attendance.

We will have more information on the rule changes for S27 posted shortly, including the minimum age for MDL teams. The rule change does not effect MDL S26 LAN, which starts tomorrow.
— Brett Sheffield (@fewowns) January 3, 2018

oof Edit: RIPERINO FROZENINHO

2018-01-03 18:40

13 replies

shady esea bitch

2018-01-03 18:53

They just have to qualify for epl

2018-01-03 19:05

8 replies

no?

2018-01-03 19:15

7 replies

If they qualify for all the the rule won't apply to him

2018-01-03 19:16

6 replies

yes they will

Or am I just another stupid american

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Well rip me

hltv.org/news/21273/wardell-joins-rogue "However, Rogue won't be able to use their full roster from the start of Pro League as wrath is currently underage. Until September 21st, when wrath turns 16, the team will be using Shawn "witmer" Taylor, a former teammate of shinobi and co."

2018-01-03 19:23

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Sorry my bad bro, thanks for clearing that up

2018-01-03 19:27

np :) its fine Have a cool day! -VeryCoolGuy

if you can't stop them, kick them from the tournament

2018-01-03 20:18

None of these players are even on significant teams lol

2018-01-04 00:37

Good fuck zeptic

2018-01-03 21:19

lul

2018-01-03 18:39

4 replies

ur back

2018-01-03 18:41

what's up ma boi

2018-01-05 16:05

18:39 vs 18:40 and u are #2 post =DDD

2018-01-03 18:43

ye bc i added something when it hit 12:40

2018-01-03 18:44

wut

rip s1mple

nice one hehe

2018-01-03 18:42

+1 xD

2018-01-03 18:47

hey

Why?

Fak

klol

lol

nice

Ouch

why

Rip frozen

wtf

sucks for kids

25 replies

they should stick to school anyway good rule esea

2018-01-03 18:45

24 replies

Bait?

2018-01-03 18:49

23 replies

no you do not know if they will make themselves a living by playing cs you cant even be sure with frozen, because he isnt proven vs t1 teams not even talking about the rest

2018-01-03 18:50

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hes already making a living you dumb monkey

2018-01-03 18:58

and there is 10000 more kids skipping school trying become a pro.. he is just an exception

2018-01-03 18:59

Exception Xdddd you dont even know how ez it is to make money playing cs nowdays

2018-01-03 19:00

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and how much money did you make? probably playing 30 days non stop for 10$ on some skinsite is the most youve got

2018-01-03 19:01

lol so true I am pretty sure some kids left school to early just like this

LUL you rekt him.

2018-01-03 22:17

he is not skipping anything and he is not trying to became pro - he is one

Mdl is mdl and not pro league for a reason Nt

2018-01-04 00:39

same rulezz are for ESL Pro league, if I´m correct (but not 100% sure) ... just know that eXtatus cannot play most of ESL tournaments due to frozen´s age

2018-01-04 08:01

Frozen is already a profesional = He is already making money by playing cs ... and in the same time studying...

But its not eseas job to decide who gets to prove himself and who doesnt. This is just straight up bs

I don't think you understand how child labor laws work

2018-01-04 00:40

You're legit braindead

2018-01-03 19:02

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just because i agree with esea's opinion im braindead?

2018-01-03 19:03

Yes? Exactly....if U16 players are on pro teams, ESEA is halting that, by not letting them play. If every league and tournament did this then it'd greatly destroy the infrastructure of the cs scene as no younger talents can get higher tier experience. This rule brings about nothing good

2018-01-03 19:06

Lol they were never getting picked up by tier 1 teams pre 17 anyways. They can rank g and s pug like everyone else

2018-01-04 00:41

Yeah, sure... they were not picked by Faze or SK instantly, Extatus, Godsent, ...those are T2 teams now. And thanks to ESL, ESEA, Eleague age restrictions they aren´t (and won´t be) able to even participate in qualifiers for big events.... Maybe that is the reason why you don´t see them on T1 tournaments ;) - they simply have to wait until they are old enough to even try to prove themselves

2018-01-04 08:13

thats stupid. if godsent get relegated, then Brollan cant play

2018-01-04 16:57

2018-01-03 19:09

Esports pro player is the best job in the world

2018-01-04 03:56

2018-01-04 12:24

kurvy vyjebané

prave naopak. 16+ je uplne OK!

2018-01-03 18:55

+100

2018-01-03 19:08

2018-01-03 22:16

retarded ruleset change

Why

stupid rule

Why lol

Wtf

that sucks

I feel like frozen is 16 for like 5years now

hes 15

Yeah like wtf he had his 15th birthday about 3 times now

are u retarded? U can have only one time 15th birthday

2018-01-05 18:04

I think you are retarded for actually taking this comment seriously. Ofcourse you can have your 15th birthday only once but people have been eaying 'hes gonna be 16 soon' for a very long time

2018-01-05 18:42

Ye boii, he is 15yo and 18 july he will 16 yo

2018-01-05 19:26

xaxaxaxaxaxaxa rip kids

That moment when 15y.o. made more money that your family in 1 year

2018-01-03 18:52

>tryxt >from slovakia >faze fan

ADAMSIN^^DROGBA Turkey kebab XANTARES XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

the rule just makes sense... retards just dont understand this

2018-01-04 00:15

Brutal savage. Rekt

2018-01-04 08:05

why there has to be age restriction lol so stupid

Cuz the game is 16+ and they dont wanna support young addicted possible ISIS members Jk

neptune is dosia son

srsly? of course... so that these guys just have to wait till they are old enough to show their skill.... What a stupid non-sense... There are no "junior" categories and these guys are signed as Pro´s.

what

hahahhaah rip esea

why ffs?

bad

wtf? great nobrain move, i hope nothing like this will happen in Battalion1944 scene.

2018-01-03 18:48

yeah really a nobrain move kappa

2018-01-04 00:16

kys

2018-01-22 22:26

reported

2018-01-22 22:33

meh

Oh fuck off...

wow bad

Why now?

pretty fuking dumb

2018-01-03 18:51

Lets destroy development for younger players. Great rule

go back to school kids 4Head

What is the goal??

makes no sense whatsoever just ESEA showing how stupid they are again

y tho

2018-01-03 18:56

Don't get why this is needed ...

didn't know frozen was still u-16

Good rules. Broodwars youngest player on TV was 12 years old (TY) and thats not a situation you want to happen in CS:GO. The game tied to child labor and exploitation discussions. All major sports have an age restriction for professional athlets and this restriction is usually 16 or 18 years old. Nobodies carriers are taken away, they just have to grow up without being forced to train dozens of hours per week till they are 16. With the amount of professional teams in MDL, thats a good rule. And playing under 16 at events like MDL is even illegal in alot of countries. For example, under 16 year olds are not allowed to work in Germany after 22.00. They also are not allowed to "work" for more then 6-8 hours a day. Its a legal issue. Ask the UN Child protection intiatives about it.

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And dont come up with children in movies: These are highly regulated branches, where the gouvernment sets a ton of papers that parents and gouvernment youth agencies have to sign all shit. In the end even these children often times are not allowed to stand infront of a camera for more then 4 hours a day or even less. Child labor and exploitation is a serious topic and ESEA just wants to protect themself from the shit ton of legal issues that come with under 16 year olds at your events. And where is the boarder? TY was 12 at his first match on TV, will we see 12 year olds in CS:GO on LANs? Is this good?

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lmao i know like 5 15yo guys who play pro football

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I also know these people. My school was the partner school of a german bundesliga club. They went to our school, missed half the time due to playing with the DFB teams or with the club and teachers traveled with them to help them get education. This is highly regulated in Germany, the clubs need to forster education of their young players, need to agree not training more then X hours per day and week and so on. ESL or ESEA cant do that shit. Hell most CS:GO teams cant garantee to do this. Also even when these 15yo call it pro football, its likely they dont have a pro contract. Being at a professional football team as a youth player does not make you a professional till you got the pro contract.

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yeah they have contract lmao you cant pay someone without contract you dumb kid, even 7yo kids have contracts if they are talented

2018-01-03 19:18

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A professional contract and a contract are two different things.

2018-01-03 19:25

Contract =|= pro contract There is a large difference between the professional contract that regular A team players have and what younglings in underage teams have. And yeah, I just had to read your freaking legal code: Working in Slovakia is mostly forbidden under the age of 15. (Only so called "light work" is allowed and must be talked through with gouvernment agency, school education must be garanteed) Above 15 you are allowed to work as you want. So yes, your "people" might have a professional contract. But for example thats not possible in Germany under the age of 16. And ESL is a german organisation.

2018-01-03 19:26

there is no difference, and ESEA is based in USA

2018-01-03 19:32

Now 2 people tell you there is. And US laws are sometimes even stricter. Remember Twist not being allowed to play for ELEAGUE back then? Well you are not allowed to work in Georgia, when you are under 17.

2018-01-03 19:41

idc what 2 people tell me, explain to me how are they different things and give reliable source or gtfo pro athlete is not work, and esport players are treated as athletes by US government

2018-01-03 19:43

And then why was Twistz not allowed to play? Because verg11 is smarter then the gouvernment from Georgia and Turner? Contracts: fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/admini.. Read. You are only a professional and have a procontract, when "A professional is a player who has a written contract with a club and is paid more for his footballing activity than the expenses he effectively incurs. All other players are considered to be amateurs." The contracts of 15 year olds are usually never high enough to make them "pro contracts". For example in UK the youth contracts are regulated to certain amounts of money ( playerscout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/201..) and thats never exeeding the amount to become a pro contract.

2018-01-03 20:03

Thats irrelevant, show me one government that makes distinction between ''contract'' and ''pro contract''

2018-01-03 20:15

There is no such a thing as contract and pro contract. Did you eve read the damn thing? There is only one kind of contracts and the thing is just that fifa takes you as a pro or not, but there is no difference between the two but a price they are being payed. tl;dr Professional contract just means you are payed more.

2018-01-06 14:23

2018-01-03 19:10

FUCK YOU ESEA...

RIP kids

but why RIP yung frozen

well the game is not meant for kids anyway

> game > not for kids pick one

the game = cs go but esea is being stupid anyway

2018-01-04 00:19

once again we can see that esea is absolutely the best platform for competition :>

This is shit lol

Why put an age restriction on a developmental league? Sucks enough for these young kids that they can't attend a lot of major events but now that they can't even play in MDL what else is there for them? This will seriously hurt the CS scene as a whole, and I think especially NA. Lots of younger kids that have the passion, dedication and skill to rise above the has-beens still in circulation in many scenes and now they have little to no way to prove their worth. Hopefully this will be changed, and if not I'm really sorry for kids like frozen and neptune.

2018-01-03 19:07

2018-01-04 03:08

Whats the point?

esea scum as expected

Guess it's more reason for ExTatus to try beat AGO tomorrow, because its frankly the only fucking chance frozen has if he makes it to EPL

2018-01-03 19:12

frozen can't play in EPL either

EPL is +16 too.

2018-01-03 19:17

The chances are only about ECS now... And it´s difficult to go there.

2018-01-04 13:08

What's the point to this?

pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/73277638825.. is this a female or male? wtf

thats fucking disgusting

2018-01-03 19:19

esea sucks

2018-01-03 19:22

it should be 17, cause cs go is for 17+ years old :)

2018-01-03 19:29

In states your 16 yo kid can easily ride with 525km Benz so he can handle pc game too :/

2018-01-03 19:34

ger 16+

2018-01-04 00:20

damn dude...

2018-01-03 19:30

I can't play too FeelsBadMan

2018-01-03 19:33

Good for you illegal gambler

Is that dude 16 himself? LOLOLOLOL

2018-01-03 19:36

no, just fat, trans and abusive parents

2018-01-03 19:39

what a fucking power tripping lesbocuntboy I'd slap his ugly fat face if I got the chance and go to hell with this rule change ok

2018-01-03 19:38

Fucking dummies why the fuck they did that if you wanna see young talents like frozen or sergej you can't now so stupid rule..

RIP young talent...

few is just a fucking dick... we got the next generation of CS players and u just cutting them off? And fucking frozen man his birthday isn't until July FUCK U FEW U FUCKING C PLAYER FUCK OFF FAT CUNT FROZEN SNAKES AND NEPTUNE R ALL AT THIS EVENT LIKE WTF DOESNT THAT PROVE SOMETHING U FUCKING ASSHAT?

2018-01-03 19:54

This guy is really promising. Fuck this rule

2018-01-03 19:49

Stupid rule

2018-01-03 19:52

Why the fuck would they do that

esea, you guys are straight up TRASH!

2018-01-03 20:00

stupid rule af

2018-01-03 20:10

is frozen still 15? LMAO

2018-01-03 20:11

next season s0ms0m !

2018-01-03 20:41

so if i understand well...is this rule only for MDL or is the same for the profesional league too...in that case we have godsent with new guy Brollancs being 15. If it is so, what kind of fucked up rule is this? you can attend to all the leagues and profesional league 15 or younger but not for mdl...wtf

2018-01-03 21:14

great ruling, kids shouldn't be playing violent games like this or they go shoot everyone.

2018-01-03 21:10

not every kid lives in America

2018-01-03 21:49

he is still right

alright. most of you saying this is bs. I bet more than half of you are under 16

2018-01-03 21:22

2018-01-04 00:21

Get rekt kiddys lolol

2018-01-03 22:20

Wtf that’s so retarded. MDL is meant to help rising talents show their skills. Jesus ESEA loves fucking up everything

2018-01-03 23:03

retarded rule

2018-01-03 23:08

This new rule should apply to any new player entering MDL. Snakes and Neptune are in NY for the MDL S26 LAN. Why tell them now they can't compete again until they are 16 when they have already been successful. There are always exceptions to the rule. There have been 10 year olds that go to high school and 12 year olds that go to college - do we put age requirements on them? If someone shows the ability they should not be held back they should be applauded.

2018-01-03 23:55

RIP Young talent

2018-01-04 00:14

Frozen is so good and it sucks for him to not play.

2018-01-04 00:18

rekt kidz

50% of the people crying about this rule are propaply younger than 16 and think they can go pro...

2018-01-04 00:22

Good, should be 18+ tbh since its adult game

2018-01-04 00:31

Thats retarded af

2018-01-04 01:04

I was alive to see the day when people were considered too young to play a video-game (at 15yo).

2018-01-04 01:35

now frozen cant cheat on lan :D

2018-01-04 02:22

Check your flag, 75% cheaters are from Germany :D

2018-01-04 12:01

Few is a c_nt. The fact some of you still pay for esea is beyond me.

2018-01-04 04:05

stupid shit

2018-01-04 04:19

Extatus Zero inc. as standin

2018-01-04 07:17

Good. Get rid off the kids.

2018-01-04 08:08

Stay in school kids

2018-01-04 09:17

pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/73277638825.. pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/73277638825.. pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/73277638825.. pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/73277638825.. pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/73277638825.. CLOWN

2018-01-04 12:28

Until you reach the Pro League, you're just a competitive CS player to me. #realtalk

2018-01-04 14:30

mikro od 16 XD

2018-01-04 18:30

#FreeSnakes

2018-01-05 16:17

If ESEA governs MDL and they both knew that players had to be 16 to be pro why did MDL and ESEA allow 15 yr olds to compete in MDL where winner becomes pro in NY this weekend. The way I see it the ESEA and MDL allowed Snakes to become pro which he did. They gave him the opportunity because they allowed this to happen. They could have stopped 15 yr olds before they got to NY. This is their mistake and I think they have to own up to it and allow Snakes to continue as a pro with Soar.

2018-01-07 04:36