StarSeries fourth round matchups determined

19-2-2018 21:30

After all day three matches came to an end in Kiev, Starladder drew the six matchups for round four, in which three more teams will lock a spot in the playoffs and three teams will get eliminated.

After a number of upsets taking place on day two, most of the favored teams prevailed in the third round aside from the elimination match between Renegades and fnatic, where the former picked up a tight 2-0 win to eliminate the Swedes in last place.

As the day progressed, we got our first two names in the playoffs in G2, who beat MOUZ 2-1, and FaZe, who ended the day by taking down Natus Vincere, while MVP PK exited the competition following a loss to HellRaisers.

Astralis will face Heroic for a spot in the playoffs

Shortly after the analysis of the last match concluded, Starladder drew matchups for tomorrow's fourth round.

11:00	Virtus.pro	vs. Cloud9	*
11:00	TYLOO	vs. Renegades	*
14:00	Gambit	vs. HellRaisers	*
14:00	Liquid	vs. MOUZ	**
17:00	Natus Vincere	vs. SK	**
17:00	Astralis	vs. HEROIC	**

* loser will get eliminated with a 1-3 record
** winner will advance to the playoffs with a 3-1 record

Easy for Cloud9

2018-02-19 21:30

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c9 tyloo hellraisers mouz SK Astralis

2018-02-19 21:42

16 replies

Renegades > tyloo

2018-02-19 22:36

HR > Gambit ?!

2018-02-19 22:53

3 replies

Yes, you’ll see

2018-02-19 23:09

Hellraisers is better than Gambit

2018-02-20 08:52

see?

2018-02-20 16:48

From memory, Renegades were beating Tyloo with their original line up (all Aussies). What makes this any different?

2018-02-20 00:27

8 replies

The poles xccurate and bntet

2018-02-20 01:36

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*Indonesians

2018-02-20 02:38

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*poles

2018-02-20 04:59

They're polish u fucking moron look at their flag

2018-02-20 05:13

No you fucking clay mug they're Indonesian if you can't see the difference in the flags you colorbl

2018-02-20 11:37

2 replies

lol 0/8

2018-02-20 11:48

1 reply

That's what the girl said when you asked her out....

Indonesian...

2018-02-20 05:25

same, but gambit in hellraiser's spot

2018-02-20 02:18

Maybe not a popular opinion, but I think it's going to a good close game.

2018-02-20 07:17

lost all respect I had for starseries

2018-02-19 21:31

15 replies

and again we lost :/ ech bad draw

2018-02-19 21:32

MVP was bad draw?

2018-02-19 21:43

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Vp won agains MVP lul

2018-02-19 22:52

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i wouldn't say winning vs MVP in 3 maps with 2 of them going to overtime as a big victory though

2018-02-20 00:15

Is that the context though ? I mean people on here just hating against evrrything that doesnt fit their own little world , he was talking about bad draws, someone said mvp ? And he said they won against them tho , how has your answer now anything to do with the draw ? Just spreading hate cause your life sucks ? I dont get it that goes to everyone that just randomly spreads hate for no reason lol

2018-02-20 08:29

Tbh with the current state of vp there are no “good” draws

2018-02-20 11:40

c9 was a bad draw man :)

2018-02-23 19:12

MVP bad draw? PL memory LUL

2018-02-19 22:28

What, because of the random match up that meant an underperforming team who probably doesn't deserve a play off spot matched up against a recent major winner?

2018-02-19 21:33

C9 era was 5 days LuL

2018-02-19 22:21

Bad draw can’t even 2:0 mvp topkek bad draw deluded vp fans pasha will retire after this event

2018-02-19 21:34

I mean, like 11 out 15 were bad draws for VP considering how "good" the team is atm. SO yes, lots of bad draws

2018-02-19 23:33

i would argue that VP got a lucky draw of probably the only team they could defeat this LAN, and from what we saw on that matchup, VP doesn't even deserve the only victory they got

2018-02-20 00:17

Well, i think they can beat Tyloo too, and have close games against one or two other teams. But they are inferior to most of the others. I dont really agree that they had a lucky draw, but for sure they didnt have a bad one too.

2018-02-20 01:10

Feelbad for vp.

2018-02-19 23:54

nice Edit: C9>VP 2-0 RNG>Tyloo 2-1 Hellraisers>Gambit 2-0 Liquid>Mouse 2-0 Astralis>Heroic 2-1 Sk>Na'vi 2-1

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Agreed except I think mouz will beat liquid 2-1.

2018-02-19 21:37

Everything is wrong except c9

2018-02-19 21:36

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I think he got everything correct except liq/mouz might be unpredictable

2018-02-19 21:39

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Mouz looking hot, they're surely gonna take this.

2018-02-19 21:57

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How are they looking hot they just lost

2018-02-19 22:17

So? :D They look better than Liquid overall.

2018-02-19 22:22

Liquid just won cs_summit. Both teams look good I say 2-1 mouz

2018-02-19 22:33

Have some NA hope

When Liquid just won an event beating SK and Cloud9. How is Mouz looking better again?

2018-02-19 22:40

Mouz have beaten SK WHO have beaten c9

2018-02-20 08:44

I mean how does that logic apply?

2018-02-21 00:55

I’d say they’re about even. I’d give mouz a slight edge because more structure. Why is everyone saying hr > gambit though

2018-02-19 22:55

Yes around 65 - 35 in my books in favor of Mouz ofc. Well that's completely possible too I mean, HR ain't bad and Gambit hasn't played too well I think...

2018-02-19 22:59

lol

2018-02-20 16:49

Gambit 2-1 hellraisers Navi 2-1sk

s1mpled tilted after todays loss wasted all his strength for nothing, they will lose tomorrow

2018-02-19 21:53

Agreed. Navi even won 5/6 pistols and still couldn’t win the series

2018-02-19 22:00

That's a stupid way of looking at it. They also lost to the 2nd rd force buys which in turn was even worse than losing pistol. Kerrigan has a good game once every 6 months, faze is lucky their bot carried them to victory in this 1.

2018-02-19 22:16

pistols are the most random of rounds but give a team the weapon advantage. i'm saying navi had the weapon and economic advantage to start 5/6 halfs, not that it means easy victory. you sound like the only bot here.

2018-02-20 01:17

How are pistol rounds the most random rounds? They are a part of the game much like economical rounds, and they require a certain subset of skill/technique to be successful. I can flip the coin to your redundant argument. Round 2 economical force buys are the most random rounds in the game (which unlike pistols, they actually are), and on 2 different occasions they gave FAZE an economical advantage. Winning pistol =/= 2 free eco rounds anymore. What you're trying to half ass insinuate is that because na'vi got 5/6 pistols they had a massive advantage. The reality is they won 5 rounds to fazes 1, which is an advantage of 4 rounds. Which is hardly an advantage at all when you're talking about a bo3. But i can see you've been a member here barely over a year, so I'll def take your expertise to heart /facepalm

2018-02-20 02:01

LOLOLOL your incompetent understanding of the financial gain from a pistol round is almost as pathetic as your knowledge of time in a calendar year. at the boston major 11% of maps were won by a team where they lost both pistols. so yes, they are more important than one round. forcebuys are won roughly 35-40% of the time in the professional scene , not only on the second round (which valve has stated they want to be in the game). if you know anything about bookmaker odds you'd know that pistol rounds are nearly always pick' em prices even between heavy favs/dogs. i think it's time for you to move back to minecraft, you clearly are feigning cs knowledge

2018-02-20 02:12

Oh good lord, another skin betting dipshit teaching people CS through irrelevant numerics. We're not talking about a grand statistic of what happens when you win both pistol rounds, over x amount of maps over x amount of teams. Were talking about a specific singular match, where you're skewed statistic is nothing more than that. A number inflated to support you're obviously biased opinion that na'vi played with an advantage due to winning 5/6 pistol rounds. Winning pistol = advantage, winning eco on 2nd round especially vs CT's is an even bigger advantage. Great were back to square one where any LEM knows as much. If NaVi won 5 pistols, and then proceeded to secure the economic advantage by forcing save rounds on each occasion I would have no choice but to agree with you. However, given that they lost the second round force on multiple occasions in this match, which put them into an even worse financial situation than they would have been had they lost those pistol rounds. I do not agree with you, since you're dead wrong. At the end of the day arguing easy rounds is semantics, all you really need is eyes and a brain, and to actually see and process what happened during the match. Faze would have decimated navi on overpass regardless of pistol rounds, and navi would have dominated faze on inferno regardless of pistol rounds too. All it came down to was Mirage, when as far as I remember both teams played an even amount of economical rounds to gun rounds. If you told me tyloo would win 6/6 pistol rounds vs FAZE, id still bet that FAZE would go 3/3 on maps and so would you. Like I said stop spewing redundant statistics, and better yet just shove em up your ass instead next time you feel like sharing.

2018-02-20 02:35

hahaha nice..well then, this is easy; if you choose to be blind to the the statistics then it's your own ignorance and lack of understanding that 's brought you to reply to me in the first place. your hopelessness in wanting navi to be 'top1' makes you as pathetic as the brazilian children running around this site screaming 'run skg'. furthermore faze only won one second round so you are either braindead or didn't watch the match. instead of dreaming about hltv ass, or at least mine, spend more time learning about cs....look up, click on 'stats.'... (you probably need further direction but i'm bored of someone who doesn't think pistol rounds are important). good day ignorant hltv user # ______...i've lost count

2018-02-20 10:58

Talking to stupid people is actually worse than talking to a wall. At least a wall doesnt respond with stupid ignorant comments. I'll repeat again since you evidently slow. The only map where pistols mattered was mirage, where both teams played the same amount of eco rounds, maybe even more on Na'Vi. If this still doesn't register in the back of your brain, I would suggest picking another hobby. Good day sir.

2018-02-20 17:47

It's amazing how can u read s1mple's mind xD

2018-02-19 22:29

well i saw few his streams, he is getting frustrated after every loss, even if its a MM, its a good mentality for hardworking guy, for sure hes a bit mad after this game, especially considering the fact that they were leaing 5-0 of both maps they have lost you cant win vs SK, if emotions taking over you

2018-02-19 22:32

pretty much gambit > hr

2018-02-19 21:47

I think TyLoo will beat RNG 2-1, Heroic will get 2-0'd and Gambit will beat HR.

2018-02-20 05:27

RNG>Tyloo HR>Gambit

Fuck lmao

2018-02-20 18:43

blyat

horoshiy opyt! navi 6ytyT 6opoTbc9

navi unlucky

ez astralis

Finally a lucky draw for them

mouzzzzzz ezz

Lylzz

ez liquid

lmao sure

sure

Hahaha

Lul no

Lul yes

2018-02-19 22:46

almost made it

nvm

navi never lucky

major draw?

They get all dark horses of major so stfu

Joke

Lmao

they always lucky except the last 2 macths lol

Always lucky except in this tourney But nt nt

It's OK navi will win it

2018-02-19 21:44

ez4whywhy_

RIP Virtus.Premier, TyLUL and Gambot

2018-02-20 17:37

Gambit vs Ange1 fuck

go vp

Let’s go TyLoo!!

RiP VP :(

good

vp....

hahaha

stfu dannish cunt

2018-02-19 21:58

hahahaha

rip vp

we got Asia Minor grand final match in there~

2018-02-19 21:38

ez sk

fuck

ez vp

Renegades vs Tyloo is a match to watch

Flag watchout

Ez for C9, Renegades, Gambit, Liquid, Astralis and SK.

ez c9

VP gonna rekt clown9

ez for styko

ast heroic noiceeee

mousesports vs. Team Liquid - Mouz SK Gaming vs. Natus Vincere - Na'Vi Astralis vs. Heroic - Astralis Virtus.Pro vs. Cloud9 - C9 TyLoo vs. Renegades - Renegades Gambit Esports vs. HellRaisers - Gambit

Sad for navi

navi beat sk omegalul

It's a gamble but i gotta gut feeling

2018-02-19 21:45

aight bro good luck Just don't put money on those gut feelings like I did.

I haven't done a bet since QBF somehow beat Mouz LMFAO

2018-02-19 21:46

Navi can win on inferno if it is not banned but more than that I don't think so

2018-02-19 21:50

SK Destroyed C9 earlier today, One the best infernos of the world in 2018.

2018-02-19 23:38

RIP C9

RIP VP EZ CLOUD 9

As a navi fan I do not mind them going out of groups if they play top tier teams

I hope they will realize and fix their mistakes after the losses(from Faze and SK if they are going to lose) If that happens it will be damn worth it

Its was quite nice to see NaVi actually fight back against a top tier team and not take it up the ass like they love to

2018-02-20 00:02

SRY VT BUT YOURE GOING HOME TOMORROW

ez mouz

Tricky SK.Sorry s1

C9 always lucky

VP must chance ALL the LINE up, they must retire. Rip VP.

Renegades vs Tyloo SUPER MATCH

SK now not in the best form. EZ 4 Navi.

Coldzera is still in great form. Cold > s1mple. EZ math

2018-02-20 00:10

C9Vs faze SK VP lol

El classico isreal

No guardinha No classico

2018-02-19 21:35

Cloud9 Renegades Gambit 50/50 both teams are good Astralis SK

If gambit wins vs hellraisers will they only be able to face heroic and liquid? Since they already faced navi? (According sk, mouz and astralis win)

RIP NaVi BibleThump

bye vp

SK vs NAVI hxaxa

Damn,quite tough draw But SK looks vulnerable atm,so if Na'Vi can replicate the form they've had vs Faze they have a good chance to take it Anyway,i hope for a great match,these two teams had some amazing matches so far

mousesports vs. Team Liquid - Mouz SK Gaming vs. Natus Vincere - Na'Vi Astralis vs. Heroic - Astralis Virtus.Pro vs. Cloud9 - VP TyLoo vs. Renegades - Renegades Gambit Esports vs. HellRaisers - Gambit

Delusional much?

2018-02-20 00:20

ez faze

Heroic will win.

VP and C9 facing each other on an elimination match again

Rip Navi

poor zeus

free win for mouz, nice!

2018-02-19 21:41

I see VP vs Crowd9 going to OT on every map because they always choke every advantage they get. The match is basically fluke vs trash

Lul

Bye bye VP..

NaVi pls push out that scum

thank fuck rng drew tyloo

Honestly surprised we weren't the first out. Here's hoping they can keep performing.

2018-02-20 00:35

VP < C9 TyLoo < RNG GMB > HR TL < mouz Na`Vi < SK AST > Heroic

You are right my man

2018-02-19 21:48

prntscr.com/ih0r2l im right

2018-02-19 21:49

can I have something rich boi u know i'm poor

2018-02-19 22:05

no you suck and very poor

2018-02-19 22:13

:( y

2018-02-19 22:18

vp no chance

Let us hurry to love VP they depart so quickly

c9 tyloo gambit mouz sk ast

11:00 Poland Virtus.pro vs. United States Cloud9 = Cloud9 11:00 China TyLoo vs. Australia Renegades = Renegades 14:00 Kazakhstan Gambit vs. Europe HellRaisers = Gambit 14:00 North America Liquid vs. Europe mousesports = Mousesport 17:00 Ukraine Natus Vincere vs. Brazil SK = SK 17:00 Denmark Astralis vs. Denmark Heroic = Astralis

11:00 Poland Virtus.pro vs. United States Cloud9 = Cloud9 11:00 Poland TyLoo vs. Australia Renegades = TyLoo 14:00 Kazakhstan Gambit vs. Europe HellRaisers = Gambit 14:00 North America Liquid vs. Europe mousesports = Mousesport 17:00 Ukraine Natus Vincere vs. Brazil SK = SK 17:00 Denmark Astralis vs. Denmark Heroic = Heroic

2018-02-19 23:41

Let's go my team, we can do it! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm

2018-02-19 21:55

fnatic T______T

VP vs. C9 0-2 TyLoo vs. Renegades 2-1 Gambit vs. Hellraisers 2-1 Liquid vs. Mousesports 1-2 Na'Vi vs. SK 0-2 Astralis vs. Heroic 2-0

Finally lucky draw for astralis

2018-02-19 21:59

VP vs C9 LUL

VP 2:1 C9 TyLoo 1:2 Renegades Gambit 2:0 HellRaisers Liquid 0:2 Mousesports Na'Vi 0:2 SK Astralis 2:0 Heroic

2018-02-19 22:01

r1p ur brain

2018-02-19 22:57

we will see tomorrow ;)

2018-02-19 23:26

c9 ez

navi drawing faze then sk smh rigged af /s

2018-02-19 22:02

Like C9!

2018-02-19 23:34

EZ SK

2018-02-19 22:11

hahahhaha

Rip Tyloo lmao. Ez RNG

2018-02-19 22:14

Might not be so ez, but lets hope it is.

2018-02-20 00:36

Expected

2018-02-19 22:15

C9 Tyloo Gambit MouseSports Navi Astralis

Navi 2-1Sk

I think it's opposite

2018-02-20 05:00

Finally a good draw for renegades in the swiss format. Lets see how they do vs tyloo without NAF, with him it wasnt even close for tyloo.

Cloud 9 2-0 TyLuL 2-1 Gambot 2-0 Mousesports 2-1 SK 2-0 Astralis 2-0

Gl fallen, let's do it

Astralis vs Heroic so boring. Danish cs overall not that exciting and Astralis rarely messes up in derbys(I know Heroic beat them on EPL recently but it hardly matters).

2018-02-19 22:37