IEM Katowice groups drawn

The draw for the group stage of IEM Katowice has been made, with the 16 teams having been split into two double-elimination groups.

The $500,000 Polish event will run from February 27 to March 4 and will feature the new format designed by ESL for its 16-team competitions, starting with two double-elimination groups of eight teams.

The two group winners will automatically progress to the semi-finals, while the losing the finalist and the team coming out of the lower bracket will be placed in the quarter-finals. The playoffs will take place in front of a live audience at the Spodek Arena and will culminate with the best-of-five grand final, on Sunday at 17:00 .

Astralis will open up the action against Renegades

Below you can find the group draw in full:

Group A Group B
Brazil SK Europe FaZe
Denmark Astralis Sweden Ninjas in Pyjamas
North America Liquid France G2
China TYLOO Sweden fnatic
United States Cloud9 Denmark HEROIC
Kazakhstan Gambit Poland Virtus.pro
Australia Renegades Denmark North
Kazakhstan AVANGAR Australia ORDER

The complete tournament schedule looks as follows:

Tuesday, February 27
12:00 Denmark Astralis vs. Australia Renegades BO1
12:00 Brazil SK vs. Kazakhstan AVANGAR BO1
13:10 North America Liquid vs. Kazakhstan Gambit BO1
13:10 China TYLOO vs. United States Cloud9 BO1
14:20 Sweden Ninjas in Pyjamas vs. Denmark North BO1
14:20 Europe FaZe vs. Australia ORDER BO1
15:30 France G2 vs. Poland Virtus.pro BO1
15:30 Denmark HEROIC vs. Sweden fnatic BO1
16:40 Group A Upper Semi #1 BO3
16:40 Group A Lower Match #1 BO3
20:10 Group A Upper Semi #2 BO3
20:10 Group A Lower Match #2 BO3
     
Wednesday, February 28
12:00 Group B Lower Match #1  BO3
12:00 Group B Lower Match #2  BO3
15:30 Group B Upper Semi #1 BO3
15:30 Group A Lower Match #3 BO3
19:00 Group B Upper Semi #2 BO3
19:00 Group A Lower Match #4 BO3
       
Thursday, March 1
12:00 Group B Lower Match #3 BO3
12:00 Group B Lower Match #4 BO3
15:30 Group B Lower Final BO3
15:30 Group A Upper Final  BO3
19:00 Group A Lower Final  BO3
19:00 Group B Upper Final BO3


 
Friday, March 2
13:00 Playoff Match #1 BO3
16:50 Playoff Match #2 BO3
     
Saturday, March 3
15:00 Semi-final #1   BO3
18:50 Semi-final #2   BO3
       
Sunday, March 4
17:00 Grand final   BO5
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#1
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United Kingdom Tendies
Nice to see rising teams such as avangar etc come to big events, it shows a shift from the old guard to the new, which is healthy for the ecosystem
2018-02-22 15:14
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#62
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Finland hotdog^
very nice
2018-02-22 15:13
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Group B is a joke lol
2018-02-22 15:13
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37 replies
you are a joke lol
2018-02-22 15:22
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9 replies
#107
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Finland hotdog^
rekt he is right though
2018-02-22 15:28
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8 replies
I’d say both groups are pretty evenly matched (aside from the Asian teams establishing themselves to us still)
2018-02-22 15:33
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6 replies
#138
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Finland hotdog^
possibly. Fnatic dropping off but heroic getting better, havent seen nip with dennis yet
2018-02-22 15:40
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5 replies
more firepower, dunno about tactics n stuff
2018-02-22 15:50
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4 replies
yeah, the only one out of the bunch that relatively even sticks out is Tyloo, and them being absent from the major and since then changing their lineup, who knows (forgot they played in SL last week)
2018-02-22 18:54
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still think they can't compete on the other teams level
2018-02-22 19:15
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2 replies
Lol, of course not
2018-02-22 21:03
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1 reply
That doesn’t go without saying that all these Lans could be good experience for them against top teams
2018-02-22 21:04
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:D i think it's ok. vp probably makes that group looking like a joke
2018-02-22 15:44
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#111
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Germany CALM_BAITER
joke? B is 20 times stronger then group A. Group A got 3-4 good teams while group B got 7
2018-02-22 15:28
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23 replies
#116
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Croatia imjustmau
Fnatic OMEGALUL
2018-02-22 15:30
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15 replies
#149
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Germany CALM_BAITER
you are omegalul ...you have tyloo avangar gambit rng ...silly fluke teams...
2018-02-22 15:44
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14 replies
#159
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World Bushyba
Do you live under rock or? All teams from group B except Faze and North suck. NiP, fnatic, VP, Heroic, G2 are dead horses... Group A is atleast 2x stronger..
2018-02-22 15:51
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13 replies
#161
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Germany CALM_BAITER
go kill yourself and save our oxygen. ty
2018-02-22 15:52
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8 replies
#164
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World Bushyba
Is that your argument?
2018-02-22 15:55
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7 replies
#166
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Germany CALM_BAITER
dont want to argue with someone who kills his own brothers and sisters lol...and then you tell me that I live under rock. have a nice day
2018-02-22 15:56
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5 replies
#168
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World Bushyba
So yeah, no arguments from you, except insultes... Have a nice day..
2018-02-22 15:59
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1 reply
#283
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Sweden wyv0
Mate group A has NA teams, AUS team, chinese team. Group B has only EU teams except 1... Nuff fucking Said, unless u think NA CS is good Ahahahaha
2018-02-22 19:21
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Was ist dein Problem es ist nicht mehr 2015
2018-02-22 16:00
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2 replies
#176
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Germany CALM_BAITER
I have no problems...I live nice, no problems, thanks for asking.
2018-02-22 16:02
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1 reply
#344
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Switzerland BlackH4ze
Someone who argument on this way cant have a nice life.
2018-02-23 07:06
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Well to be fair, you didn't present any argument either. You just *said* that they suck. Where is your argument?
2018-02-22 17:20
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#180
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Serbia Jnordz
North are fucking worthless and G2 are not, nip with Dennis is fine. Dvem watched CS in 2018? Stupid Ukrain nobrain
2018-02-22 16:05
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Imo Group B is/should be stronger team vise, dont know how they will do though, as Fnatic did horribly is Starladder and VP and NiP dying... And Group A has teams in good form, expect for Gambit. If we look at gameplay Group A will have better imo and Group B has just bigger names
2018-02-22 16:12
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#245
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Germany Xirif
fnatic was #5 HLTV ranking and G2 are pretty strong atm but nt
2018-02-22 17:52
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#280
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Sweden wyv0
Rofl, group A has 2 good teams, SK and Astralis.... Nice group you got there ahaha Cloud9 is shit, they fluked the major, it's confirmed. Group B has FaZe, fnatic, G2 and North, all which are better than group A counterparts. And a Wild card with NiP with pistol king denka
2018-02-22 19:16
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#197
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Portugal samf0rd
+1 this is a fucking joke
2018-02-22 16:34
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#239
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Brazil TonimSan
Group A: Tier 1 - SK, Astralis Tier 2 - Liquid, Gambit, C9 Tier 3 - Avangar, Renegades, Tyloo Group B: Tier 1 - Faze, G2 Tier 2 - NiP, fnatic, North, Heroic Tier 3 - VP, ORDER Almost the same level for both teams...
2018-02-22 17:48
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#264
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United States Prattatat
Seems a little off to see G2 in tier 1 but not C9, may be some bias but the head to heads are pretty even and C9 has had better results than G2 over the last 5 months or so.
2018-02-22 18:45
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4 replies
#270
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Sweden @Greven
+1
2018-02-22 19:02
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#275
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Netherlands Removed
C9 and G2 are both not Tier 1
2018-02-22 19:11
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2 replies
#284
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Germany CALM_BAITER
+1
2018-02-22 19:32
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#304
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United States Prattatat
Yea that can definitely be argued due to the inconsistency between both teams. My personal opinions is they are both in tier 1 with Faze and SK but can see why others don't believe so.
2018-02-22 20:56
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group B is a joke ? im not sure if you know anything about cs
2018-02-22 15:42
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Well a Group B Contender will win this shit dumbass
2018-02-22 16:43
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0/8 Ahmed
2018-02-22 17:56
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se
2018-02-22 15:14
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Ye exactly my point?! Refugees is good, it twist the ecobalance.
2018-02-22 15:32
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#195
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Denmark megz
Agreed! I would like to add that the picture text says that astralis will open vs. renegades, however, the schedule says something else...!
2018-02-22 16:30
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You r living for these moments arent u
2018-02-22 16:39
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#256
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Norway Noreg
avangar is trash lol
2018-02-22 18:31
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+1
2018-02-22 19:03
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Ok
2018-02-22 15:08
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28 replies
#18
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Finland hotdog^
DONT INVITE VP
2018-02-22 15:09
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27 replies
#38
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Lithuania Paulius_CS
VP will get farmed, fun times
2018-02-22 15:10
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16 replies
#52
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Brazil junera
Very nice tournament, only thing that would make better would be -VP +mouz
2018-02-22 15:15
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12 replies
+1
2018-02-22 15:23
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+1
2018-02-22 15:40
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+1
2018-02-22 15:48
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#179
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Finland hotdog^
+1
2018-02-22 16:05
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#189
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North America xAriana
+1
2018-02-22 16:14
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#198
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Portugal samf0rd
+1
2018-02-22 16:34
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#228
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China GOD742
+1
2018-02-22 17:23
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#237
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Poland sedi
-1 less hype
2018-02-22 17:37
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#255
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Bangladesh N0SP4C3
Dont blame VP cause mous couldnt beat Avangar in the qualifiers lmao
2018-02-22 18:24
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3 replies
#282
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Ukraine Lud0_
And vp cant beat anyone, theyre just keep gettin invites cause of big name, so mouses are 10x timrs better rn
2018-02-22 19:21
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2 replies
#305
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Bangladesh N0SP4C3
VP got invited because they are from Poland. Thats the only reason they got invited, i believe
2018-02-22 20:56
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1 reply
#308
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Ukraine Lud0_
ye, that what i mean, and avangar are pretty decent at the time, vp would get fucked by them, thou
2018-02-22 21:09
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they are always unpredictable, who knows?
2018-02-22 15:13
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2 replies
#147
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Singapore Slaughtrr
"Unpredictable" for almost a year consistently losing to tier 100 teams LUL
2018-02-22 15:44
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1 reply
epicenter was unpredictable too.
2018-02-22 16:08
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#40
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Sweden herb
why not?
2018-02-22 15:10
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6 replies
#61
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Finland hotdog^
tier 20 team older than my great grandparents
2018-02-22 15:13
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5 replies
#79
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Ukraine Eziush
well, if your grandparents are under 30s then you need some serious sexual education in brazil
2018-02-22 15:21
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3 replies
#117
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Poland Spynacz
+1
2018-02-22 15:30
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8/8
2018-02-22 15:31
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+1 kkkkkkkk 1000000/10
2018-02-22 15:49
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#205
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Sweden herb
They got a new member so give them a chance
2018-02-22 16:40
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+1
2018-02-22 15:10
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they should have invited mouz instead
2018-02-22 15:21
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1 reply
#113
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Finland hotdog^
+1
2018-02-22 15:28
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#4
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Sweden MrIgnii
So again both sk and faze are in different groups
2018-02-22 15:09
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#47
rigoN | 
Sweden herb
yea lucky SK..
2018-02-22 15:10
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Which means the seeding is good
2018-02-22 15:11
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they're #1 and #2 right now... why should they be in the same group?
2018-02-22 15:12
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12 replies
#127
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Sweden MrIgnii
Because it is suposed to be a completely random seeding and sk never gets into faze's group. Random? I arent think that
2018-02-22 15:35
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yeah and you want grand finals SK/FaZe vs ORDER right ?
2018-02-22 15:46
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1 reply
#181
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Sweden MrIgnii
If sk and faze are in the same group and they finish 1st and 2nd they wont meet until the final
2018-02-22 16:05
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"sk never gets into faze's group" or "faze never gets into sk's group". Conclusion, it's not theirs fault. They are #1 and #2 in the world right now, you really want a another semifinal between both teams just like in Cologne 2018.
2018-02-22 15:58
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4 replies
#184
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Sweden MrIgnii
I wouldnt care about that, i care about the random seeding which is not random at all so the tournament decides the matchups
2018-02-22 16:07
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#203
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Philippines !kbn
Cologne 2018? Do you live in the future? Please tell me who wins IEM Katowice so I can bet on them
2018-02-22 16:40
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+1 I thought i put "2017" kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk edit: and now i can't edit it.
2018-02-22 16:42
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But if this happen... will be boring, meanwhile, there's a long time 'til there, many things can happen.
2018-02-22 16:45
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#171
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Czech Republic Rewask
Top 2 teams shouldn't be in the same group, cause the 2nd would be much worse that the 1st one and worse teams could be getting to playoffs
2018-02-22 15:59
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What he is trying to say is that how come SK and faze never end up in the same groups if it's supposed to be completely random. And he has a point because it means that it's not random at all
2018-02-22 19:42
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but the seeding isn't random, it's based on esl's ranking system. and it was never supposed to be random.
2018-02-22 23:45
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#354
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Sweden MrIgnii
I believe they pick a card with a team name on a bowl
2018-02-23 15:14
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#5
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United States gube
Fifth
2018-02-22 15:09
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Lol
2018-02-22 15:08
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#7
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Sri Lanka mryeet
lmao
2018-02-22 15:08
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#8
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Australia Mosski
nice
2018-02-22 15:08
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#9
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Finland hotdog^
very noce
2018-02-22 15:08
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Lel
2018-02-22 15:08
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YTB
2018-02-22 15:09
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LUL
2018-02-22 15:09
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#15
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Portugal dracø
ez 4 NiP kappahd
2018-02-22 15:09
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#16
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Luxembourg gepaxo
G2 EZ llife
2018-02-22 15:09
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#17
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Germany ArroWoW
n1
2018-02-22 15:09
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#19
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Israel xpicyyy
EZ
2018-02-22 15:09
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ez
2018-02-22 15:09
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NiP u to read this? , WIN THIS SHIT <3! #GONINJAS Greetings from Venezuela
2018-02-22 15:10
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5 replies
#34
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Sweden herb
we'll win! <3
2018-02-22 15:09
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4 replies
Did you mean 0-3 in groups?
2018-02-22 15:11
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2 replies
That's faze m8
2018-02-22 15:21
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#202
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Sweden herb
I was talking about NiP not SK or FaZe
2018-02-22 16:40
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No :D
2018-02-23 07:21
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Ez 4 vp
2018-02-22 15:09
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1 reply
#218
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Brazil coldzao2
no days off thats cool
2018-02-22 16:52
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#23
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Poland throwing
n11
2018-02-22 15:09
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GG WP
2018-02-22 15:09
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VP needs to get to the playoffs
2018-02-22 15:09
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2 replies
It's better for them not to. Imagine them getting to playoffs then possibly playing teams like SK, FaZe, G2, they will get raped right in front of their home crowd which is sad.
2018-02-22 15:23
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1 reply
Idk, they'll arek at bootcamp now so I hope they'll suprise everyone with their tactics and teamplay
2018-02-22 15:27
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#26
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molodoy | 
Kazakhstan aqua4kz
AVG EZ
2018-02-22 15:09
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#27
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Poland Kuba0123
So ez for VP guys :D
2018-02-22 15:09
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ez for mouz and navi...w8
2018-02-22 15:09
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#30
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Choco | 
Kosovo cocofanboy
who is ORDER and why are they there?
2018-02-22 15:09
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1 reply
#54
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Indonesia DezfanzeR
Team that will upset in this tournament <3
2018-02-22 15:11
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#31
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United States predac0n
ez 4 C9 + Liquid = PRECIPITATION
2018-02-22 15:09
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12 replies
C9 AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA XDDDD
2018-02-22 15:15
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#170
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Brazil phelipet2
NA ERA 2 WEEKS OMEGALUL
2018-02-22 15:59
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10 replies
#211
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Sweden herb
They never had an era, winning the major was only luck
2018-02-22 16:44
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9 replies
No major winner has had an era since MLG Columbus
2018-02-22 21:24
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6 replies
#313
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Sweden herb
Yes Astralis had a short era when they won
2018-02-22 22:05
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5 replies
I don’t think winning 1 event after major counts as era
2018-02-23 00:11
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3 replies
#352
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Sweden herb
They won Katowice after as well and they were dominating the first month last year
2018-02-23 12:46
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2 replies
2 events in a row isn’t an era
2018-02-23 17:20
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1 reply
#359
rigoN | 
Sweden herb
being #1 team in six months straight is not an era?
2018-02-24 20:11
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#337
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Poland e46rodrick
and fnatic after Katowice 2015
2018-02-23 04:25
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#336
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Netherlands EJVN
seems like you don't know the definition of luck.
2018-02-23 04:12
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1 reply
#351
rigoN | 
Sweden herb
There were lucky that FaZe chocked hard af against them
2018-02-23 12:45
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#32
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz
:) Upsets in A
2018-02-22 15:09
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1 reply
liquid winning over SK is not an upset
2018-02-22 15:10
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group b is shit
2018-02-22 15:09
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#35
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United States DrLejos
nice
2018-02-22 15:09
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balanced
2018-02-22 15:09
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One of C9/SK/Astralis/Liquid should be swapped out with someone from Group B, then it would be balanced.
2018-02-22 15:10
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2 replies
#100
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Nepal Askje
Yeah.. B is too strong and A have only astralis and sk MAYBEEEEEE c9
2018-02-22 15:27
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1 reply
+1
2018-02-22 15:30
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#39
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Israel xpicyyy
EZ4ORDER NIP AND TYLOO
2018-02-22 15:10
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#42
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Latvia Xaity
gambit and avangar in 1 group . SAD .
2018-02-22 15:10
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ez nip
2018-02-22 15:10
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#45
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Denmark slacking
Looks balanced tbh
2018-02-22 15:10
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#175
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Czech Republic Rewask
not really tbh, after starladder i think Astralis is best in Group A then there is SK/Liquid and then a big difference in the quality of teams.
2018-02-22 16:01
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#46
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC
how much teams qual per group? 4?
2018-02-22 15:10
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2 replies
#91
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Brazil Matheuscgc
3 per group, 1 straight to the semis
2018-02-22 15:24
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1 reply
#93
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC
xaxaxaxa rip c9 again then
2018-02-22 15:24
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Nice, why wasnt mouz invited though?
2018-02-22 15:11
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8 replies
Only so many teams you can invite, also mousesports lost to avangar in the qualifier
2018-02-22 15:12
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7 replies
lets hope to see them in cologne atleast. crowd would go nuts :)
2018-02-22 15:15
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6 replies
No one would care about this t2 team.
2018-02-22 15:24
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5 replies
#212
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United Kingdom galaxzy
beat SK and major champs C9 tier 2 pick one lmfao
2018-02-22 16:45
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4 replies
#250
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Austria Megrr
tier 2
2018-02-22 18:15
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3 replies
#253
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United Kingdom galaxzy
2018-02-22 18:21
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2 replies
#257
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Austria Megrr
FACT: They lost qualifier to AVANGAR Tier 2 Proof. And there are plenty of matches they lost that they shouldn't have lost that I could post. And counting C9 as a great team. They are the new Gambit
2018-02-22 18:34
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1 reply
#261
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United Kingdom galaxzy
ONLINE CS LMFAO also C9 major winners nt
2018-02-22 18:41
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#49
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Poland jagnie
rip VP on the stage :(
2018-02-22 15:10
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GROUP A IS SO SHIT COMPARE TO B
2018-02-22 15:11
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5 replies
#74
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Poland Ventori
Not exactly, NIP/FNATIC and VP are in shit form lately so the only good teams are Faze and g2
2018-02-22 15:16
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FNATIC had a bad tournament it happens to everyone,dont count them out already,new NIP can be super good is theyre on form and VP too,way more Dangerous that some teams from group a
2018-02-22 16:25
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Yes. Fnatic was not good at SL but they have played consitently lately, except SL. I still belive they can reach the playoffs. Even NiP
2018-02-22 16:40
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yeah sl was just sad as fuck,i like to see them playing lately and i dont know what happend to them there but i still feel like they are a very good team and i hope theyll show it at Katowice,as for NIP im really hyped to see how theyll do with mr dennis on LAN
2018-02-22 17:07
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GROUP B IS SO SHIT COMPARE TO A. Fixed that for you.
2018-02-22 15:27
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rip vp
2018-02-22 15:12
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#59
NiKo | 
India Sishir
No mouse sports no fun
2018-02-22 15:13
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3 replies
they got eliminated by avangar in qualifiers
2018-02-22 15:29
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1 reply
That's why I'm sad. They're top5 team atm imo.
2018-02-22 16:04
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#215
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United Kingdom galaxzy
+1
2018-02-22 16:45
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im waiting so much to see dennis and NiP
2018-02-22 15:14
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#66
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Poland misioneos
cybersport.pl faster and with ladders since 15:00
2018-02-22 15:14
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Ez for Nip
2018-02-22 15:14
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#68
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Europe Skraj
Group A five bad teams, niz
2018-02-22 15:14
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#70
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NiKo | 
Europe trey_
EZ FAZEEE
2018-02-22 15:15
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#71
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Poland ReHowskyy
3 teams advances from group right?
2018-02-22 15:15
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1 reply
Yes
2018-02-22 16:36
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group B lol
2018-02-22 15:15
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#75
byali | 
Poland BYALl
ez group for vp
2018-02-22 15:18
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Of fucking course Order get group b.
2018-02-22 15:19
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#80
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kissmyass | 
Uruguay zniksze
finally vp will win something
2018-02-22 15:21
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#81
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
To bad there is no mouz, otherwise very strong tournament. Ofc VP will always get invited to this it's in Poland, maybe they can do better with some home support :)
2018-02-22 15:21
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6 replies
Mouz doesn't take anything away from the tournament. Lol they rekt by Avengers.
2018-02-22 15:27
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5 replies
16-14 rekt ok
2018-02-22 15:28
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4 replies
When you lose to a lower tier team, no matter what the score is it's considered rekt. As a Wise Monkey once said: "The Cry is Free"
2018-02-22 15:31
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3 replies
#217
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
They rekt SK at this tournament and rekt c9 currently #2 and #3 ranked teams in the world so maybe in your dumb world they are #2 team in the world who knows. They're a team that can beat anyone on their day and are getting better and better and I can say I enjoy watching their games so yes the tournament loses something. A top5 team atm for sure.
2018-02-22 16:50
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2 replies
That's exactly why them losing to avangar is considered as rekt.
2018-02-22 19:47
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They can beat top teams here and there, yet they still haven't won a single tier 1 tournament, I don't see them being ranked in Top 3. Will never happen.
2018-02-22 21:53
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#83
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Portugal RKO23
ast or sk to top group a , we're getting another faze vs g2 which is glorious.
2018-02-22 15:22
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#84
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Finland Sizz - <3 ex-LGB
ez for FaZe
2018-02-22 15:23
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ez vp
2018-02-22 15:23
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ez vp
2018-02-22 15:23
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ez for ORDER
2018-02-22 15:23
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#90
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North America ksp52
i don't see why they can't just split it into 4 groups
2018-02-22 15:24
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So, it's basicly european group and non-european group. That's some bullshit. Seems like they are trying to get as many non-european teams in the play offs as possible.
2018-02-22 15:24
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1 reply
#126
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kNgV- | 
Brazil HomemLaranjaMau
Many *euro teams as possible given their recent record against non eu teams
2018-02-22 15:34
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Ez 4 TACO
2018-02-22 15:24
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#96
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
DeM | 
Italy Brian_Furious
No more Swiss system yeeee
2018-02-22 15:25
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g2 vs vp /// rip VP xD
2018-02-22 15:25
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B01 AGAIN , BACK TO CLOWN FIESTA
2018-02-22 15:25
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#99
Jesus | 
Czech Republic Jurys
inviting NiP over mouz and Navi lololol NiP is just a free win
2018-02-22 15:26
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7 replies
mouz got eliminated in qualifiers by avangar
2018-02-22 15:28
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6 replies
avangar > mouz > NiP
2018-02-22 15:29
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5 replies
mouz is a better team then both, lower tier teams beat upper tier teams becuase of their play style. Mouz does not know how they play and what they do. Look at qbf.
2018-02-22 15:31
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4 replies
chrisj said that they didn´t prepare much, same goes to navi, shit happens my point is you should invite the best teams and NiP is shit since Oakland
2018-02-22 15:33
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3 replies
#128
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kNgV- | 
Brazil HomemLaranjaMau
But NiP and VP are always fun to watch
2018-02-22 15:36
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2 replies
really? the VP matches on Starladder were kinda boring for me Snax and GTR were always fun to watch for me, but since 2017 they suck and they are no longer interesting imo
2018-02-22 15:37
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1 reply
#145
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kNgV- | 
Brazil HomemLaranjaMau
Even if they suck they are noteworthy and make for interesting discussions and emotions.
2018-02-22 15:43
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#103
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Norway frjh
Lets GO NAVI lets win the next major!!! wait... s1mple still cant 1v9, ill come back in 20never
2018-02-22 15:27
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#104
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Sweden Akoulad
Nice not to see overrated NaVi here
2018-02-22 15:27
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1 reply
1x5 is not ez ;/
2018-02-22 17:49
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ez for mousespo......oh wait...
2018-02-22 15:27
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I bet AVANGAR gonna be more successful than Gambit.
2018-02-22 15:28
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1 reply
true, they can even beat sk in this bo1, im pretty sure
2018-02-22 17:33
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#110
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Sweden aer1aL
ez 4 VP.
2018-02-22 15:28
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riP VP LOL
2018-02-22 15:34
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#129
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dupreeh | 
Germany pastaMasta
what is this format lol, why not just 4 groups of 4 teams?
2018-02-22 15:36
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1 reply
esl don't want to do 4 quarters on the same day, especially in poland where the audience gets kicked out at 22:00 (i think). so only 6 in playoffs, can't determine 6 out of 4 groups.
2018-02-22 23:50
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#130
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
nex | 
Poland DzonyMaczeta
rip vp ;D
2018-02-22 15:36
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vp got the easier group and will still get trashed :(
2018-02-22 15:36
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1 reply
Group B is easier because there is VP.
2018-02-22 16:08
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Get those fookin NA teams away from us
2018-02-22 15:38
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2 replies
#338
Faceit level 4  | 
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African Union mikecool
Accidentally replied to the wrong comment... Woops
2018-02-23 04:43
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1 reply
#339
Faceit level 4  | 
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African Union mikecool
And again hltv screwing up on my phone hc...
2018-02-23 04:46
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#135
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia 99in1
RIP AU Teams, RNG vs Astralis, Order vs Faze. GG bois.
2018-02-22 15:39
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1 reply
#340
Faceit level 4  | 
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African Union mikecool
+1 oof
2018-02-23 04:46
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so only 6 teams ou tof 16 go to the playoffs?
2018-02-22 15:39
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5 replies
#192
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Bulgaria ba6ta_v1
yeah
2018-02-22 16:26
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It's so ridiculous how this work, i mean, the rewards for the teams who finishes at 1st of his group could be a additional prize money (10k), and not give to them a free semis. Just like in IEM Oakland and EPL S6 (where Sk finishes in 1st).
2018-02-22 16:32
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3 replies
esl don't want to do 4 quarters on the same day, especially in poland where the audience gets kicked out at 22:00 (i think). so only 6 in playoffs.
2018-02-22 23:52
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2 replies
Just do like StarSeries, make 2/4 in two days, the crowd makes difference in quarters, once they will play on closed LAN.
2018-02-23 00:05
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1 reply
starseries plays 4 quarterfinals on the same day and like i said, iem can't do that. it would take too much time. to make sure that the last match is over before 22:00, you would have to start at 9:00, but nobody will show up to watch that early. they could do it like eleague did and have the 4th quarterfinal on saturday, but you can ask your favorite team how much they like that ;)
2018-02-23 00:27
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Geez SK and FaZe got ez picks again lul
2018-02-22 15:39
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#139
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Poland EzzCSGO
I'm looking forward to it
2018-02-22 15:40
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rip vp
2018-02-22 15:41
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at least fnc got rid of rng,gambit and tyloo :>
2018-02-22 15:42
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1 reply
#148
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kNgV- | 
Brazil HomemLaranjaMau
Yeah good for them maybe now they can get out of groups :>
2018-02-22 15:44
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no mouz no party
2018-02-22 15:42
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1 reply
#150
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kNgV- | 
Brazil HomemLaranjaMau
AVANGAR party poopers
2018-02-22 15:45
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#151
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
SkullsY | 
United Kingdom SkullsY
simultaneous games zZZzzzzz
2018-02-22 15:45
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#152
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe acid_drinker
Groups are balanced you idiots.
2018-02-22 15:45
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fucking retard format
2018-02-22 15:46
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#156
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland sajlent
pretty even groups top tier in A: SK and Astralis B: FaZe and G2 mid tier in A: Cloud9, Liquid and Gambit B: fnatic, North and NiP low tier in A: Renegades, TyLoo and AVANGAR B: Heroic, VP and ORDER
2018-02-22 15:48
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#221
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Canada Japss^_^
true they're even but this my order Top tier A: SK, Astralis, C9. B: Faze and G2 Mid-tier: Liquid, RNG(New roster with Jkaem) B: fnatic, NiP, and Heroic(doing better as of late) Low-tier A: TyLoo, Avangar, Gambit(struggling to get a foothold) B: North(Nowhere near as top tier as they were), VP, ORDER but overall true but that's how i see it
2018-02-22 17:01
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#162
Faceit level 5 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Turkey rusty james
what the fuck is group b? who did the seedings? jesus fucking christ what the fuck is this shit? literally only faze and g2.....
2018-02-22 15:52
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1 reply
i believe the seeding is based on esl's own ranking.
2018-02-22 23:54
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Brazi l zil zil zil zil, let's go my TEAM! Where is spacesoldiers? We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! kreygasm
2018-02-22 15:56
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rigged.
2018-02-22 15:59
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As always FaZe getting the easiest route possible.
2018-02-22 16:00
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#174
Faceit level 10  | 
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Moldova OptimusBlyad
FAZE ORDER RIGGED XD Fnatic ez btw
2018-02-22 16:01
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A is the group of death B ez for FaZe
2018-02-22 16:04
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ez Katowice 2014
2018-02-22 16:06
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#187
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Antifrag
Nooooo! Stop this asymmetric tree bullshit! Give us real quarter-finals and/or real semi-finals, just give us a symmetric tree ffs!
2018-02-22 16:10
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1 reply
+1 It's so ridiculous how this work, i mean, the rewards for the teams who finishes at 1st of his group could be a additional prize money (10k), and not give to them a free semis.
2018-02-22 16:27
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#190
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
magixx | 
World mcs#
GROUP B what a joke
2018-02-22 16:16
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#200
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Canada Japss^_^
I swear if G2 loses to VP I'm gonna lose it :v
2018-02-22 16:38
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#208
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United States Rambeard
It's nice to see a team like ORDER make it to the group stage. I hope they can get a win at least.
2018-02-22 16:42
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Group A - 6 Good teams .Avangar and gambit Groud B - 6 Good Teams , Vp and Order
2018-02-22 16:43
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EVERYONE KNOWS THAT VP IS GOING TO LOSE ALL MATCHES. THEY ARE JUST BAD .....
2018-02-22 16:47
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#219
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Poland weo000
bet on faze all skins? its bo1 i dont know :(
2018-02-22 16:58
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#220
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland jayss
rigged for VP, rofl
2018-02-22 16:59
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1 reply
#223
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland Little Sun
cya VP anyway
2018-02-22 17:09
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Niceee
2018-02-22 17:10
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cya VP XDDDD G2-0 VP
2018-02-22 17:19
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1 reply
#233
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Reunion kolgab
they playing bo1 :D
2018-02-22 17:29
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#229
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland teppo123
6 days tournament still way too long. these overly long tournaments are bad influence from moba games, not part of cs. bo3 brackets upper and lower. 3 days max ;)
2018-02-22 17:27
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#230
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Netherlands Deji
WHERE IS ENVYUS WTF
2018-02-22 17:28
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#232
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Reunion kolgab
bet againt VP still easy money
2018-02-22 17:29
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vp fast defeat and to home
2018-02-22 17:31
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1. Easy tournament for SK Gaming 2. RIP VP disband/changes 3. Faze lucky
2018-02-22 17:36
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Nice to see nip in action again. Too bad mouz couldnt make it.
2018-02-22 17:48
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ez vp in final against faze
2018-02-22 17:49
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#242
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United Kingdom Legoshi
No crowd = no vp
2018-02-22 17:50
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ez faze
2018-02-22 17:51
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#244
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Poland Czari10
flying to poland to see 5 games ez lose
2018-02-22 17:51
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#246
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden pjaayyz
ez NIP
2018-02-22 17:52
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VP should stay home, it will be cheaper for them
2018-02-22 17:56
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1 reply
Ago will take the invite and alteast try
2018-02-22 20:50
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#249
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Snax | 
Saudi Arabia hobbit_
rigged tournament XD VP again draw against bots
2018-02-22 18:15
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1 reply
#277
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HUNDEN | 
United Kingdom kingpepe2
G2 is one of the harder draws.
2018-02-22 19:12
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#251
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
tarik | 
United States BigBadPapa
I like faze and all, but they always seem to get the easiest match-ups to advance.
2018-02-22 18:17
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bah best of ones again... gay
2018-02-22 18:18
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#254
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Denmark DanishDelight
Nice with different format, but I can't help thinking. Does Group B Lower Match #4 winner have to play Group B lower final right after, so they have 2 bo3 in a row? Instead of putting the group A upper final and or group A lower final before, so they get a break, as group A has no other games that day^^ Oh well, still looking forward to it. Edit: When looking at tournamentpage, it looks like only 3 teams will advance to upper bracket, which means 1 team that win their bo1 still goes to lower bracket? That doesn't seem fair, but will have to see it first xD
2018-02-22 18:27
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1 reply
lol no, don't worry :D what they call 'lower final' is actually the lower semi, but the real lower final isn't played. the loser of the upper final is automatically 2nd seed and the team that wins the 'lower final' is the 3rd seed. and i have no idea why the didn't just switch the 2nd and 3rd time slot on thursday :D
2018-02-23 00:10
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RiP
2018-02-22 18:39
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EZ NIP
2018-02-22 18:40
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Why does lEM Katowice always happens in Poland?
2018-02-22 18:44
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3 replies
#333
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark DanishDelight
Is that a serious question?
2018-02-23 00:52
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2 replies
Actually, no.
2018-02-23 05:51
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1 reply
#353
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark DanishDelight
Good
2018-02-23 13:10
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I am in love with NiP
2018-02-22 18:52
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grand final: ninjas in pyjamas(top 0) versus g2, B03, maps: Cache 16:9 nip 'll win Cbble 16:11 nip 'll win Decider is overpass btw.
2018-02-22 18:52
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2 replies
NiP top 0. goat.
2018-02-22 18:53
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1 reply
RIP Nip!
2018-02-22 19:04
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#GONINJAS ! #GODENNIS
2018-02-22 19:02
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another SK VS Faze Final incoming?
2018-02-22 19:05
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#276
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HUNDEN | 
United Kingdom kingpepe2
RIP VP LUL
2018-02-22 19:11
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Group A: SK Astralis Liquid C9 Group B: Faze G2 NiP / North fnatic
2018-02-22 19:17
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1 reply
Only 6 teams make it bro
2018-02-22 19:50
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5 am final ResidentSleeper
2018-02-22 19:44
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#289
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
I miss mouz there...
2018-02-22 19:53
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Nip too soon with Dennis VP not good enough Heroic > north but still not a solid tier 1 team but can cause upsets Fnatic choke at starseries Order.....Aussie cs lul Faze top 1 G2 group stage gods Should be faze Vs g2 in upper bracket finals and hopefully fnatic from the lower bracket. Fnatic should really disband if they don't reach the grand finals
2018-02-22 19:55
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9 replies
faze top 1 lol wait SK rekt them easily 2-0
2018-02-22 19:57
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8 replies
Are u fucking dumb mate ? (No offense :) )
2018-02-22 20:00
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7 replies
you fucking dumb idiot and Faze fanboy karrigan never beat Fallen in bo3 since 2015 you fucking idiot Faze never beat SK in Bo3/Bo5 cry is free DUMB
2018-02-22 20:01
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6 replies
Faze is no.1 in the rankings so nobody gives a shit about what u say tbh
2018-02-22 20:05
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5 replies
0/8
2018-02-22 20:08
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4 replies
Wtf?
2018-02-22 20:47
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3 replies
hltv ranks means nothing Faze 0 majors NA 1 major xd
2018-02-22 20:47
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2 replies
Obviously u make more calculations than hltv
2018-02-22 20:52
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1 reply
you mad cuz bad?
2018-02-22 20:53
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#296
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel
Group A: SK C9 Liquid Group B: FaZe G2 NiP
2018-02-22 20:17
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2 replies
#312
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United States SjD
+1 good picks
2018-02-22 22:00
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#322
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Bangladesh N0SP4C3
Group A NA, and group B EU. NICE PICKS
2018-02-22 23:50
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G2 vs VP. hahaha will that match be broadcasted on brazzers premium ?
2018-02-22 20:48
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#300
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Poland LucaS04
rip vp
2018-02-22 20:49
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#311
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States SjD
LUL Group B is ass
2018-02-22 21:59
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rip Order. :'(
2018-02-22 22:18
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#315
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland sajlent
sadly this will be the last ever lan for Neo or pasha
2018-02-22 22:46
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ez 4 ORDER
2018-02-22 22:53
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#317
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland Kobel_
Group B all EU besides ORDER, lul
2018-02-22 23:18
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ORDER actually might have a chance to go far. Renegades as well. AUCS rising? It's about time.
2018-02-22 23:41
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3 replies
ORDER gotta bo3 beat a top 10 in the world or be eliminated on the first day lol not that far but we can hope
2018-02-23 09:39
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1 reply
nope not on the first day because Lower Bracket group b matches are on the second day. 2 Teams from Group A are going home on Day 1 .. strange event :)
2018-02-26 01:18
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Chance to go far? They have no chance against anyone in their group except for vp and heroic, and even then I would surprised if they beat those two
2018-02-24 16:54
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#329
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil Kise_Ryota
So G2 got a BYE.
2018-02-23 00:13
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#332
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
coldzera | 
World 2pacShakeRr
ez 4 SK Gaming
2018-02-23 00:51
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#334
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shox | 
United States generalmajorah
Group B OMEGALUL
2018-02-23 03:48
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#335
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North Macedonia ydjoon
vp wasted spot smh..
2018-02-23 03:51
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#343
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Scova
Time for Tier 1 teams to cry again
2018-02-23 06:39
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of course sk and faze not in same group cuz everyone wants another sk vs faze final smh
2018-02-23 08:59
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EZ for VP!!! to leave the tournament in first 2 teams, haha
2018-02-23 10:16
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#356
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Poland ScreenLag
EZ for VP!!!
2018-02-23 19:53
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OMG GROUPS IN 2018 did gods heard me?
2018-02-25 14:54
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