apEX: "I understand the people trash-talking us, I just hope they try to understand us because we didn't want to do anything bad"

We had a chat with Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire on day two of IEM Chicago following Vitality's win against Renegades in Group B's elimination match.

We got a hold of the Frenchman to ask him about Vitality's mentality at the ESEA Season 31 Global Challenge last week, where the team's lax approach to their matches caused extensive backlash from the community.

apEX commented on Vitality's approach to the Global Challenge

After explaining his team's side of the situation, apEX discussed Vitality's struggles against HEROIC on day one of IEM Chicago and in the group stage of ESL One Cologne, and talked about improvements for day two.

The interview was conducted before the conclusion of the series between ENCE and HEROIC.

There was a lot of backlash for your mentality at the Global Challenge, what did you think about the response from the community?

Coming to the event, I think we didn't have any break for about three months. We had a lot of tournaments, we had things to do for Vitality, so we didn't have a break just to get some rest. Obviously, the Global Challenge wasn't really important for us except the EPL slot, so we decided to just try to get some rest during the event, even if it's not that easy, but get some rest to be ready for this event [IEM Chicago] because it's more important.

I know that it wasn't seen the best way by the community, for sure, and I know they don't understand our decision, but we just wanted to get some rest because we felt like we were really tired even at Cologne. We didn't play our best CS even if we went to the final, mainly individually except for ZywOo. I understand the people trash-talking us, but I just hope they try to understand us because we didn't want to do anything bad, just get some rest and be ready for the next event.

Knowing what the response has been, was it worth it?

I don't know. If we had to do it again, at least we'd think about that, but as I said, I understand the people. We had to find a solution to just clear our minds because three months without a break, it's one of the first times I did that in my whole career and I'm not going to lie, I'm super tired right now.

Shifting over to Chicago, here and back in Cologne you had a couple of tough series against Heroic, this time being on the losing side - what makes it so hard to face them right now?

Even if they're playing super-well, I think the game at Cologne and the game here was pretty much the same, I would say. We didn't play good CS at all, we didn't our play our best CS, at least. We just showed a bad level during the ESL One Cologne group stage and we did the same yesterday. Obviously, they played well, but we just played horribly overall. We knew that they were a dangerous opponent, but I don't know what happened exactly, I couldn't explain, but we were just not very good as a team, mainly. And me, individually, I was terrible.

Is that something you can address for the series later, in which you could play them again? Can you improve on that today?

Obviously, yes. Today was much better, we reset our minds from yesterday, we talked a lot. The thing is, this team needs a lot of energy during the game because when we don't put the right energy in, we just play really badly, and that's what happened yesterday. We just try to keep our energy before the game, and now between the games, just to give everything during the game. And that's a lesson we understood, hopefully we will continue to think about that and if it works, it's the best.

France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
26
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Maps played:
1464
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
nice 😎
2019-07-19 21:20
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32 replies
#3
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China KoreanFan
Good name.
2019-07-19 21:20
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15 replies
its just the truth but thanks m8 😎
2019-07-19 21:21
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14 replies
#10
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Austria shaak!
pretty nice name indeed
2019-07-19 21:22
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11 replies
Danke 😎👍
2019-07-19 21:22
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10 replies
#86
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Albania 9898
apex nt AZK=apEX
2019-07-19 22:15
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9 replies
@apEX you fucking throwing cocksucker next time give your spot to someone else if you intend to fix games
2019-07-19 23:36
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8 replies
#141
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France oqald
Are you drunk they try to play only the game against sprout for the epl spot because they need EPL as a #2 team but 3 month without any break travelling everywhere being tired and shouldtryhard for 0 point on hltv 25k and facing top 100 htlv they just dont care
2019-07-20 00:25
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3 replies
#173
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Ivory Coast tyndlort
It is their own fault. They know the agenda. If you see that you have to many events, just say no to some so you can rest. You will give the oportunity to another team that for sure will do their best in the event and not throw. Dont say yes to al invitation and then throw game becouse you are tired. Brainless thinking. They have lost my respect
2019-07-20 10:46
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2 replies
#195
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France Kiirua2
Wasn't an invite but playoffs mdl. They were already qualified for epl. That is also a stupid organisation
2019-07-20 14:35
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#215
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France oqald
You cant refuse cologne when it's been 4 month you accept and mdl was not even finished you cannot be at their place they where here only to qualify for epl not to play this low tournament you cannot be as focus as you are in a top tier tournament in football or all sports best teams dont play their best in preparation match or against low teams it is exactly the same
2019-07-21 12:25
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#154
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France Poloqua
They couldn't forfeit, they had to play global challenge if they wanted the EPL spot. If they could forfeit, they were forfeiting.
2019-07-20 02:42
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2 replies
He probably losing money
2019-07-20 10:17
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1 reply
yea no offense no one give a shit bout mdl its irrelevant and people get tired have bad games they are human cant blame them for 3 motnhs with no break and mdl isnt important they didnt throw they just wernt prepared and were tired
2019-07-20 18:25
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#202
Per0N | 
Argentina Jiox
how much?
2019-07-20 16:05
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#13
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Poland Unluko
Nice
2019-07-19 21:22
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fish mouth
2019-07-19 21:22
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Le tank goat
2019-07-19 21:21
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Brazil_have_2_majors_Germany_0
2019-07-19 21:52
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14 replies
I'm pretty sure your majors really helped to improve brazil 👍👍 oh wait... brazil is still 💩💩💩
2019-07-19 22:20
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9 replies
#106
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Belgium haasecsgo
LOOOOL
2019-07-19 22:50
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#147
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Brazil thypirate
and we still have more majors and world cups than hitler´s country
2019-07-20 01:16
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3 replies
Germany has 6 worldcups tho 😎😎😎 and brazil is still shit and your majors wont change anything about it LOL
2019-07-20 11:13
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2 replies
#207
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Brazil thypirate
six world cups ? at war right ?
2019-07-20 20:29
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1 reply
4 mens world cup 2 womens world cup = 6
2019-07-20 20:36
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#169
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Palestine TwistXxX
atleast they didnt ruin the world twice mr hitler
2019-07-20 08:50
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3 replies
Imagine calling a citizen of a country the name of their oppressive dictator that they clearly didn’t support ever. 70 years later even.
2019-07-20 15:20
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2 replies
#198
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Palestine TwistXxX
i donr care what you want to imagine
2019-07-20 15:28
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#213
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Europe kiiri
+1
2019-07-20 22:46
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Brazil_have_5_world_cup_Germany_4
2019-07-19 23:41
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3 replies
#132
Faceit level 10  | 
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Brazil iPepe
xD
2019-07-19 23:55
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Germany has 6 world cups
2019-07-20 20:46
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1 reply
its ok, bro. i know germany is best than brazil. i'm just kidding.
2019-07-20 20:52
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#2
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Sweden Nokkeri
Nice apex
2019-07-19 21:20
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#5
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Argentina Chief02
ok
2019-07-19 21:21
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#7
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India S1ayR
ok rapex
2019-07-19 21:21
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ok
2019-07-19 21:22
0
yeah we understand keep up guys
2019-07-19 21:22
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#11
sjokz | 
Brazil fuNNa
REPORTED APEX
2019-07-19 21:22
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#12
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Denmark Ritsuryo
-apex +kio when
2019-07-19 21:22
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2 replies
N E V E R E V E R
2019-07-19 21:24
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+1 apex is their worst player role and fragging wise
2019-07-20 00:29
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Good guy apex
2019-07-19 21:22
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apex is pretty idiot, bet is the case
2019-07-19 21:22
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we are tired, we need some rest, we fall asleep, we had no time to practice..... ResidentSleeper
2019-07-19 21:22
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#21
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France J0riS
They wont understand cuz they are retard
2019-07-19 21:23
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9 replies
flair and flag check
2019-07-19 21:30
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#48
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom UKChef
flair and flag check
2019-07-19 21:35
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#51
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France J0riS
/\ | Je vous pisse au cul
2019-07-19 21:39
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3 replies
#70
Boo | 
France mbl4
Hahahahahahahahaha
2019-07-19 21:55
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Vous n'êtes pas Mr.Hankey, dites-moi comment vous vous en sortez?
2019-07-20 00:23
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#175
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Ivory Coast tyndlort
It is their own fault. They know the agenda. If you see that you have to many events, just say no to some so you can rest. You will give the oportunity to another team that for sure will do their best in the event and not throw. Dont say yes to al invitation and then throw game becouse you are tired. Brainless thinking. They have lost my respect
2019-07-20 10:52
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flair and flag check
2019-07-19 23:42
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flair and flag check
2019-07-20 03:23
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#194
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia velzie22
flair and flag check
2019-07-20 14:20
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Thanks apex ResidentSleeper
2019-07-19 21:23
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#23
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Myanmar xdcc
apex just wanted a nice skin
2019-07-19 21:23
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VITALITY TIRED
2019-07-19 21:23
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Fuck the community. Bunch of clowns anyway.
2019-07-19 21:24
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5 replies
#92
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France SmallJumP
+999999
2019-07-19 22:23
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4 replies
#146
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Nigeria Asbhdhsbs
Flag and flair check out
2019-07-20 00:52
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3 replies
#174
RpK | 
France Snabe_
Flag and flair check out
2019-07-20 10:52
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2 replies
#178
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Nigeria Asbhdhsbs
What's my flag again?
2019-07-20 11:02
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1 reply
nt loba
2019-07-20 20:55
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boycut vitality
2019-07-19 21:24
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busy sched for baguettes. pls understand mad bettors. rofl
2019-07-19 21:25
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tired of seeing French people cry
2019-07-19 21:26
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Just provide the result and that will speak for itself. Who cares about some random strangers trash-talking about you.
2019-07-19 21:26
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karma cry more,never worked before and talking about tired and shit LUL
2019-07-19 21:30
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1 reply
#53
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria Megrr
+1 fucking snowflake lol
2019-07-19 21:40
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even after getting rest nothing will help you toxic apex..... he is always being carried by his teammates...... they should kick apex and take jackz
2019-07-19 21:26
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4 replies
#41
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany LANDWHALE
Liquid fan wants to make vita worse to protect their "era" axaxaxax
2019-07-19 21:31
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3 replies
trash talk expected from germuns brain xaxaxaxa.... go die hitler
2019-07-20 10:43
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1 reply
#189
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany LANDWHALE
I think you're the one trashtalking here
2019-07-20 13:22
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apex is shit that wouldn't make them worse
2019-07-27 11:18
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#36
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Russia idjetruski
maybe if you weren't that obvious and disrespectful to the enemy team, people wouldn't even know about that, so stop excuses
2019-07-19 21:27
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6 replies
#65
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
trace | 
Denmark horse_off
They fuck up the integrity of the sport. You don’t see that kind of performance in any other sport. (Unless match fix) Really disrespectful, to the opponent and the cs community.
2019-07-19 21:48
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5 replies
#71
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany LANDWHALE
Dude, in other sports it is normal to just use a "B-squad" for less important games.
2019-07-19 21:57
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4 replies
#117
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
trace | 
Denmark horse_off
Yess, but again... lets say football, u have UCL tuesday and let players rest sunday in the league match. Fair, rough to play fullpower with only 1 whole day of rest. (Those players getting the chance, i bet u, they try really hard to win and do good, tho) But Vitality chose this event. Because it had a epl spot as price.. now... they secured the epl spot somhow else. The event all of a sudden don’t have value to them. Just sayin’ not Nice and som other team, who might really wanted to fight at try cs at High level, could have got that spot instead of them, then. Dont just fucking accept all events. Then pick’n’chose once you find out what events you actually want to play.
2019-07-19 23:11
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3 replies
Jesus you are so stupid
2019-07-19 23:14
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2 replies
#122
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
trace | 
Denmark horse_off
Ok austrian overlord - u so clever <3
2019-07-19 23:16
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Expected from thorin
2019-07-20 03:13
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tired from playing video games, poor baby
2019-07-19 21:29
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#42
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Turkey engin4000
Tired from, what ? Such a weak mentality. This make no sense. They are pros and must play all the time for the win. The people are mad, not because they lost, but the way they were laughing and playing with smgs. Especially Alex's B play was gold nova level. That's why they will never achieve the Astralis's successes.
2019-07-19 21:32
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3 replies
#56
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria Megrr
+1 preach!
2019-07-19 21:41
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#191
Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
France Telt
I started to find your comment interesting, then I read the last sentence
2019-07-20 13:29
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1 reply
#217
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria Megrr
Again biased...I am seeing a trend in your comments
2019-07-22 15:20
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#43
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United States theory^
fuck u apex
2019-07-19 21:33
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they just wanted ez skins
2019-07-19 21:33
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this is so sad can we get 10k likes? :'(
2019-07-19 21:34
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#47
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
North America Speirz
plenty of teams grind events back to back. What a shitty excuse lmao.
2019-07-19 21:35
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2 replies
Just Look at liquid they Literally never skip
2019-07-19 22:26
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1 reply
#104
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
North America Speirz
yeah. french players just lazy af.
2019-07-19 22:44
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Ofcourse they dont understand since they went all in on FURIA..
2019-07-19 21:36
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why couldn't they just play it like a pug or practice some random shit
2019-07-19 21:47
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1 reply
They Literally trolled nothing to do with beeing tired Rpk awp Bizon shit like wtf
2019-07-19 22:25
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#54
aizy | 
Romania ljod
Am I way behind news ? So what did Vitality do/say about this Global Challenge ?
2019-07-19 21:41
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5 replies
#60
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria Megrr
They literally gained the EPL spot and then had to play the Global Challenge. They threw the Global Challenge game just like IBP, except maybe they did not bet on themselves. However, throwing is throwing and they made theirs obvious
2019-07-19 21:44
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4 replies
#76
aizy | 
Romania ljod
wow. proof ? link to match ?
2019-07-19 22:01
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1 reply
#101
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria Megrr
2019-07-19 22:30
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#192
Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
France Telt
Wow so objective. IBP were banned because they intentionally fixed the match. Vita threw, they didn't fix it. IBP didn't throw, they fixed it before the match, to gain money..
2019-07-20 13:32
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1 reply
#216
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria Megrr
So where did I ever say they fixed the match? I would argue fixing and throwing are the same thing. Even though it is obvious you are oblivious and biased as many HLTV users are, you are just trying to separate what they did from IBP. Just because you didn't bet on yourself does not mean anything. This is a competitive sport like every other one and this is what happens. People throw and this is the backlash they get. Just realize that they threw and there should be some kind of punishment. End of story. BTW Apex still sucks as a player and needs to be replaced :)
2019-07-22 15:18
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#55
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
bot_APEX
2019-07-19 21:41
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Fluketality and ZyWHO??? I sleep
2019-07-19 21:41
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next time think before you do, dumbo "know they don't understand our decision, but we just wanted to get some rest because we felt like we were really tired even at Cologne." Then fix up your fucking schedule. Skip either Cologne or MDL or stop fucking complaining.
2019-07-19 21:47
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#66
Faceit level 7  | 
GuardiaN | 
Europe MARK0N1
Enjoy your ban for throwing.
2019-07-19 21:49
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2 replies
+1
2019-07-19 22:16
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#193
Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
France Telt
There's never been any ban for throwing, there were bans for match fixing. Don't get me wrong though, I don't think they should've done that.
2019-07-20 13:34
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Makes sense - they were just tired af from constant tournamnets but cs community (or any competitive community) is like you either are at your best at ALL TIMES or you are shit and should get the fuck out.
2019-07-19 21:50
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#69
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Sweden Akoulad
Have fun being banned
2019-07-19 21:52
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sorry my friend but you " VITALITY" you will be remember as guys which throw games. I m not looking anymore on your games. GOOD LUCK
2019-07-19 21:59
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xd
2019-07-19 22:00
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#75
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Armenia gr1nch
lmao peanut brain strikes again
2019-07-19 22:00
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apex <3
2019-07-19 22:02
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Wow, they are tired! Look, guys, they are tired! Playing a computer game, sitting in comfy chair in front of monitor, still get a high salary for this and they are freakin tired! Such a pussy's, lmao. Imagine APEX beefing with S1mple on twitter, and then he talks about "trashtalking", and writes fake apologize full of nagging. Such an alpha male. #ApexPussy #Bantality #IBP
2019-07-19 22:03
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#79
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Spain LfanT_
Adasdasdasd
2019-07-19 22:03
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#80
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Brazil AidoNou
Doesn't it brings some doubts for the betters, like you cant predict, knowing that somethings like that, a team use a smaller event just to take a breathe? So that values at the betmarket will change, kinda unfairly, it's not how the game and beting should be. Even knowing their side and actually giving them a little space, understandable, I still thinking that what they did, thinking that throwing games, zywoo playing with a bizon wtih 10k at the bank, forcing unnecessary rounds, everyone playing only with deagles even having allot of money, has such a bigger meaning than what they thought it will have. (Sorry if there's some gram errors btw)
2019-07-19 22:06
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#81
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Estonia BlameS
Apex better have a badass racing signature sticker for the major.
2019-07-19 22:06
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Dont be nasty with my man apex :(
2019-07-19 22:09
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#85
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland c0nfus
Fuck them
2019-07-19 22:15
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We tried to get some rest during the event , no apex you dont just get some rest during a tournament people have expectations of you your fans and people betting on matches if you have that kind of mentality you dont belong on a proffesional level in any sport not just csgo
2019-07-19 22:18
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My good u fukers play cs stop saying you tired Look at liquid Esea no Balls to Bann them
2019-07-19 22:28
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1 reply
#110
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil EstiveMagal
+1
2019-07-19 22:57
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Apex needs to understand theyre hyper active kids and should not be taken seriously
2019-07-19 22:30
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Stfu retard
2019-07-19 22:37
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Trashtalker complains about people doing trashtalk.
2019-07-19 22:43
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#109
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil EstiveMagal
I work as a dentist 11 months in a year and I dont shit in the mouth of my patients when I AM tired. What as....
2019-07-19 22:56
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3 replies
Why would you shit in your patients mouth XD
2019-07-19 23:03
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1 reply
#143
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil EstiveMagal
because I'm angry and tired XD In Brazil we said that when a people do a bad work of porpuse.
2019-07-20 00:31
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XD
2019-07-19 23:38
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#112
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal hpn-
Garbage mentality, they are professionals, but they don't have the mind set that's needed to be one.
2019-07-19 23:03
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3 replies
#123
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
trace | 
Denmark horse_off
Thats why they wont stay at the top for very long.
2019-07-19 23:30
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Must be why NBK is literally one of the most decorated CS players.
2019-07-20 01:23
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1 reply
he had luck like all other french players, that Happy choose him. And because NBK is such a great honourable man, he backstabbed him several times.
2019-07-20 13:06
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No ban for Throw MMM Valve ???
2019-07-19 23:08
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ban these matchfixers
2019-07-19 23:32
0
don't worry, you'll have enough time to rest once you get banned
2019-07-19 23:58
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"S1mple is a bad player" "S1mple you are so toxic" "S1mple dont try to be the victim here" Winsome trash tournaments and start to believe they are better than the GOAT LUL. The shit team really shit team Nobody understands you guys you are so bad. Match-fixer and Backstabber. I don't know any other trash team at this level out there since IBP
2019-07-20 00:17
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Too tired from playing video games, wow such remarkable athletes.
2019-07-20 00:18
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2 replies
#144
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil EstiveMagal
looks like when felps get benched from SK last year he sayed that he was tired to play 8 hours a day. Man I dont know In Denmark but here in Brazil there are people that hard work 12 hours a day to get 350$ for month I am lucky to get graduated an had a good education than 90% of the population of my country.
2019-07-20 00:35
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Are you really so stupid ? Pro carreer is a fucking rythm exactly as Tennis player. Always in moving (Cologne, Dallas, Chicago, come back to Europe, ...). Many hours in airport, in hotel, and practice everytime it is possible. If I remember KennyS said he played 2 hours for individual skill then 6 hours with team to train strats every day. Plus offlines matches etc.
2019-07-20 01:39
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#145
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Canada chanse
Vitality is dedicated, please don't compare them to other team.
2019-07-20 00:36
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Lmao what a pussy
2019-07-20 03:16
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"We didn't play our best CS even if we went to the final, mainly individually except for ZywOo. " Best AWPer in the team's country isn't implicated in the throw, remind anyone of something?
2019-07-20 03:23
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1 reply
FREE SKADOODLE
2019-07-20 13:20
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#163
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States ljfe12
how much time he say understoot ?
2019-07-20 06:30
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Nice way to fuck up the tournament organizers :D. Not too many sponsors like it when the #1 talking point regarding the tournament is that teams participating in it tell publicly that they didn't care to play it. If only Vitality had at least kept their own mouths shut...
2019-07-20 07:22
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Dear apEX everything is allright i will be fan of Vitality till ZywOo dies <3 much love (Vitality/ZywOo`s biggest fan)
2019-07-20 08:40
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OMEGALUL
2019-07-20 08:45
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#170
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Europe loonek4
Yeah let's ignore all the criticism and call it trash-talking because it's not like people had a reason to do that.
2019-07-20 10:14
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#176
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Europe Cr3eP_70
So, you people completely forgot what a CALENDAR is and that normal people work for at least 8 hours a day for 11 months ... Damn... Life is going to strike hard on you.
2019-07-20 10:53
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#199
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Ivory Coast tyndlort
throwing game becouse tired. I think that the events organizers shoud ask Tiredtality before inviting them if they feel tired or relaxed to see if they are worthy an invite or a spa weekend
2019-07-20 15:45
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Latvia tibr0
lets go french scene destroy those horse fckers
2019-07-20 15:46
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