Changes to Vertigo, Train in CS:GO update

17-4-2020 02:45

Valve's latest update to CS:GO brings substantial changes to Vertigo, adjustments to Train, and a jumping accuracy fix for the Deagle.

Vertigo continues to be a focus for Valve, who have shipped a number of changes to the map in their latest update. The B bombsite has received the biggest overall, resulting in a complete redesign of its layout, cover, and entrance.

The window in mid has also been closed off, with the sandbags being moved closer towards CT spawn to create a new mid-to-B entrance that drops players into the back of B site. Additionally, the spammable wall at A has been replaced with a metal fence, offering CTs more cover as they traverse the two sides of the bombsite.

Adjustments to Train include new collision models on the dumpsters, an update that was previously shipped on Overpass due to over-wide models blocking bullets despite clear lines of sight. Pigeons at ivy, which previously could indicate that a T player was in the area, are no longer visible from the CT side, while the ladder on oil train has been fixed to allow for players to walk off at the top.

The update also adds the ability to view the crosshair of players that are being spectated, and copy crosshairs through player names on the scoreboard. Additionally, Anubis, Chlorine, and Jungle have received updates, and seven music kits have been added to the game.

The full changelog for the update can be found below:

[ GAMEPLAY ]
– Added one-on-one warmup arenas when playing Wingman mode on Vertigo and Train
– Added a new weapon parameter “inaccuracy jump apex”, set to 331.55 for the Deagle

[ UI ]
– Added ability to see crosshairs of observed players
– Added ability to copy crosshairs of other players (through the scoreboard).
– Added ability to listen to music kit MVP anthem when inspecting music kits.

[ MUSIC ]
– Added the Masterminds Music Kit Box, available in regular and StatTrak™ variants, featuring 7 new music kits:
— Austin Wintory, Bachram
— Daniel Sadowski, Eye of the Dragon
— Dren, Gunman Taco Truck
— Matt Levine, Drifter
— Sam Marshall, Bodacious
— Tim Huling, Neo Noir
— Tree Adams and Ben Bromfield, M.U.D.D. FORCE

[ MISC ]
– Fixed agents sometimes not holding weapons on the end of match screens
– Fixed agents in Perfect World version sometimes vocalizing English radio commands
– The Events tab of the Watch menu will now also present online competitions

[ MAPS ]
– Anubis:
— Fixed the prop draw distance at canal in front of A
— Increased the bomb explosion radius from 400 to 450
— Improved readability at A main and middle
— Several clipping fixes
— Fixed some missing prop faces
— Improved navigation so bots now know how to drop down areas
— Moved the spawn icons on the radar to the right coordinates
— Fixed nav file issue

– Chlorine:
— Visual rework of base textures to help visibility
— Made B bombsite lights brighter
— Removed floating displacement near CT spawn

– Jungle:
— Added more loot crates in few regions of a map
— Fixed some community bug reports (including flying ladder)
— Updated minimap tablet texture
— Added one extra house near Radio Tower region
— Reworked wooden fences prop (removed holes)
— Fixed collision mesh of solar battery model

– Vertigo:
— Brightened i-beam textures
— Replaced wooden fence on A site with metal version, decreasing wallbang damage
— Bombsite B:
— Lowered height of site by 32 units
— Tightened exit from T stairs
— Removed “window” entrance from mid, replaced with a raised entrance near CT spawn
— Flipped railings on stairs to site, to allow jump up from sandbag position
— Reworked site layout and cover
— Moved connector from B halls that went under mid, to further towards T spawn
— Enabled B site in Wingman mode
— Experiment: In Wingman mode, during Warmup, players will spawn in an 1v1 arena

– Train:
— Moved pigeons that sometimes spawned near Ivy, no longer visible from CT side of ivy
— Fixed not being able to walk off top of ladder on oil train, B site
— Brightened scaffolding by oil train
— New collision model on dumpsters found around the map
— Experiment: In Wingman mode, during Warmup, players will spawn in an 1v1 arena

Vertigo destroyed again....

2020-04-17 02:46

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2020-04-17 02:50

5 replies

Good job Valve

2020-04-17 03:04

4 replies

JUST -vertigo +oldcobble /fixed

2020-04-17 15:24

3 replies

+10000

2020-04-17 16:40

1 reply

+7.7 BILLIONS

2020-04-17 17:37

Nah. Vertigo is cool.

2020-04-18 10:43

2020-04-17 02:51

at some point there will be so many changes we will loop back to the original vertigo again

2020-04-17 02:56

This is unfortunately entirely possible

2020-04-17 05:21

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no it's not because valve says which maps are played. if it was otherwise we would've had tuscan long ago already lol

2020-04-17 11:40

I think he means they are making so many changes that it will end up looking just like it did when first released

2020-04-17 19:47

2020-04-17 11:09

+1 GG

2020-04-17 02:59

still beats admitting you made a mistake just by adding such garbage to the official map pool anyway

2020-04-17 03:03

Overpass was a failure at first too , but valve made it work and right now it's one of the best maps in the game. Nuke in 2018 was hated as much as vertigo is right now , but valve fixed it. Trust me valve won't give up on vertigo that easily at least till the end of this year. Maybe after Rio major we will see it removed , that is , if valve fails to make it a good map

2020-04-17 16:32

i know what you talking they remove scaffolding and window at hut also SPUNJ tweets that he said give him a time and he will give the best version of Nuke also SPUNJ's dust 2 idea is also good (the b site door), and Valve still not touch it

2020-04-18 20:23

WTF, have they just given up on this map. This map was starting to get somewhere, it was looking good but now Valve have just officially killed it. Nice One Guys

2020-04-17 03:07

Ok after looking over the map again now after waking up and not being in a tired state. I take back what I said here, the map looks more suited for competitive this way and the B site leaves open more exciting opportunities. The T's are now forced to take deep mid control for an effective B split and I think the Map is just better suited for competitive play.

2020-04-17 13:39

Props to you for admitting you were wrong

2020-04-18 03:04

im on same situation like you right now i havent open it yet i already play lot of Vertigo too (maybe more than majority player those casual Mirage-only player) and i also afraid if it so bad

2020-04-18 20:25

No bro, what I said initially was out of anger and It was like 3am at the time so my opinion was really fucked. But honestly, the map is 100% better, the B-Site is no longer all clumped up and is nice and open. It's alot more fun and mid is easier to take as T's which can now lead to both great A and B site splits. So don't be sacred, the map is fucking amazing

2020-04-21 13:01

Still no tpain music kit

2020-04-17 03:25

Thank you for the lol 😄

2020-04-17 13:41

Honestly, I like this new version of the map. I prefer the version from July 2019 which was probably the best one. But let's try it before saying that Valve is destroying the map.

2020-04-17 03:32

I just hope Flashpoint use the old patch in the decider matches to come next weekend.

2020-04-17 03:51

they obviously will

2020-04-17 08:07

I think they asked teams for the last update so probably they'll do the same here and obviously teams that play Vertigo will say fuck this update

2020-04-17 09:23

+1 old layout was actually okay, wtf is this

2020-04-17 04:13

It's a temporar map in the pool anyways 'till they figure whatever the fuck they wanna do to cobble.

2020-04-17 05:02

Nah I don't think cobble is coming back. More likely cache

2020-04-17 12:41

It will cuz the D-lore boosts the viewers and the market flow

2020-04-17 21:03

nah... With DLore is so rare now, its also mean less to care for Valve if something bad happen to people and... there is no 'souvenir drop-item' anymore, with current system all will unbox the cbble and ruin the value of the whole skin collection also the map layout is shit its too big and poor rotation time *not the B site, is one my favorit site

2020-04-18 20:19

Nah cuz the drops don't working that anymore. Everyone gets one. So the value of the dlore will plummet and it won't be rare anymore.

2020-04-22 12:52

This is a good update, B site was dogshit

2020-04-17 08:32

2020-04-17 10:17

2020-04-17 17:57

Can I ask why people think this will ruin the map?

2020-04-17 09:46

I havent even seen the map, I am just trying to project the public opinion to get many replies.

2020-04-17 10:44

It worked, gz

2020-04-17 11:04

Honest baiter, big respect

2020-04-18 16:41

2020-04-17 10:48

it was finally good before. hope they didnt make it worse

2020-04-17 12:44

+1 You just learn the current version , boom they change it completely.

I disagree, the professional teams are no longer using mid due to be almost impossible to split the bombs, so only lukers were floating there in the mid. B site was with just one entrace, was impossible to use the B window, to easy to hold B using just a single player, focusing 4 in the A site at round begining. I just tough that all changes should be done before have included this map in the competitive mode, Now at least we have a reason to fight mid, a B split is feaseble, hope that a single smoke could block the vision from CT spawn and A site hall...

2020-04-17 14:52

2020-04-17 15:00

Vertigo is better now imo, faster rotation in lower side (T-side), and mid control is now more useful too and entrance to B is easier to T's, before it was fucking dumb sa it was so tight and CT always had multiple favourable angles to peak

2020-04-17 17:50

#valorant

19 replies

-1000

2020-04-17 02:53

Dead game

15 replies

Already dead before its release.

14 replies

Source? "I don't like it" is not a valid reason btw

2020-04-17 04:25

13 replies

It's an opinion so yes, that is a valid reason.

2020-04-17 05:42

11 replies

A game cannot be dead because he doesn't like it. No data supports his view. You're free to prove me wrong.

2020-04-17 06:24

10 replies

Wth r u doing in hltv? Go watch some fortnite streams or something

2020-04-17 06:37

Elaborate.

2020-04-17 06:55

!keydroppe

Data isn't required for an opinion. He's entitled to both having an opinion and sharing it as he did. You are wrong.

2020-04-17 06:48

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He claimed the game is dead. This is objectively wrong. He's entitled to his opinion but that does not mean that this statement is factually correct.

2020-04-17 06:56

And? Him not liking the game is a perfectly valid reason for him to be of the opinion that it's a dead game, whether you think it's 'factually correct' or not. Have you ever been tested to see where you are on the autism spectrum? It might be worthwhile because if it's mild there are therapies that can help you to better understand social interactions.

2020-04-17 07:03

You're not making any sense. I can also be of the opinion that gravity does not exist but that just makes me a moron. See how this works?

2020-04-17 08:03

opinion=/= fact and you cant even have a conversation so seems like you have some problems

2020-04-17 10:23

The guy just wanted him to elaborate on his opinion, the game is dead because of a, b and c, wtf are you guys even arguing. Example: in my opinion, valorant will be played by a lot of people, but not the core of csgo players, all the lava, abilities and differences between characters on valorant, push away players that are looking for a fair, watchable experience.

2020-04-17 10:49

2020-04-17 07:33

Maybe you could say the same shit to idiots who sayed that csgo is a dead game.

2020-04-17 10:03

maybe it is 1:1 from valorant but i really like this option in valorant

2020-04-17 16:34

nice

how do i put my crosshair back to the old one , idk why but my crosshair change after this update

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Seems that the ability to set cl_crosshair_outlinethickness 0.5 was removed, so that could be your issue

2020-04-17 02:52

ayy we have an NA admin here finally

2020-04-17 03:08

9 replies

waiting for a BR admin

2020-04-17 03:12

There is one

2020-04-17 03:17

:O I did not know, thx

2020-04-17 03:28

It's kLango

2020-04-17 12:18

I am a writer and coverage admin, not for forums men)) Also been here for almost 3 years now :)

2020-04-17 03:18

congrats I guess

2020-04-17 03:20

mens))) 😎👌

2020-04-17 10:27

Have you ever seen Johnathan irl?

2020-04-17 13:21

2020-04-17 04:03

Man with the new update when you're in the air while crouching gets all stuttered, and cl_fixedcrosshairgap in cl_crosshairstyle 1 doesn't work, also cl_crosshair_outlinethickness 0.5 doesn't work too. :(

i found out fixedcrosshairgap doesnt work but crosshairgap works for both styles, and the stuttering is only a problem with practice with bots so no problem at all

2020-04-17 03:34

I've always had that crouch stutter in practice, dunno why.. xD

2020-04-17 21:55

so i cant get my crosshair right ???

I guess, yeah.

2020-04-17 06:12

good changes

2020-04-17 02:47

but why

"Lets put vertigo on competitive map pool and remove old maps so we can change them" Continues to change vertigo every week. Good job valve

They're giving vertigo the 2014 cobble/overpass treatment

2020-04-17 05:56

hope they give vertigo the 2019 cobble treatment

They did it with overpass, now its one of the best maps

2020-04-17 04:07

Exactly

2020-04-17 09:26

+1 , and nuke as well.

2020-04-17 16:35

nuke is a really cool map now, idk why people dont like it

2020-04-17 16:37

People like it and that's what I'm saying. People used to hate it 2 years ago , pretty much everyone wanted it removed but now it's a decent enough map

2020-04-17 16:39

Download the earliest compatibility vevrsion of overpass in the steam workshop and check out how the map was before (it was already in the major map pool at that point and never rotated out). You can do the same for the earliest versions of Vertigo. You will see what a long way this map have gone already. Its easy to forget how many changes maps went trough, but even super popular maps that are almost as old as CS itself, such as train, have gone trough frequent adjustments.

+1 I was just playing 2013 train yesterday on a community server, it was fun but it wouldn't fly in competitive CS now.

Yep. Overpass was so fucking bad at the start and I used this point against these vertigo haters. Vertigo will stay, it's a good map and a breath of fresh air from the other maps!

2020-04-17 09:17

CS community when Valve do nothing 'they just don't care about CS only Dota and ez money'. CS community when Valve do something 'bring back the old shit fuck changes'

2020-04-17 09:28

nerd : download the map and compared it by himself smart (or lazy) people : watch 3kliksphilip

2020-04-18 20:14

Damn so many cry babies who can't handle changes to csgo maps. Not handling small changes is a sign of autism

2020-04-17 06:58

They also forgot to fix Cache and Cobble.

2020-04-17 09:41

?oooh

2020-04-17 02:48

So making vertigo more t-sided??? wtf

dont feel like it is tbh. just played a wingman on it (granted thats not great to judge it) but mid seemed fair and so did b. Playing close stairs was punished easily, retakes are going to be easy. I think solo b and defensive mid will be the standard now. Vertigo will probably be even more a heavy.

But probably in the pro-scene it may be a lot differnt, and ofc u could be right, but I think that the pros will now dominate on t-side, but can only wait and see :)

2020-04-17 02:58

true, definetly a very interesting update. one thing I have noticed already is how obsolete the box close to the mid entrance for the Ts is now. You cant boost on it without being seen from up top so fighting ct will be a lot harder if the cts have a double setup mid. Mid to me has become more ct sided.

2020-04-17 03:00

it's not just not great, wingman tells you jack-shit about which side is more favored in competitive play.

2020-04-17 06:13

They got a gulag in train wingman 😳

2020-04-17 02:49

+1 lmao

2020-04-17 03:31

next update replaces the Lenin mosaic in t spawn with Stalin.

2020-04-17 05:07

Why not kim il-sung :()?

2020-04-17 08:59

Gulag PogU

2020-04-17 06:54

Ez4valorant

"The update also adds the ability to view the crosshair of players that are being spectated, and copy crosshairs through player names on the scoreboard." The update also adds the ability to view the crosshair of players that are being spectated, and copy crosshairs through player names on the scoreboard. biggest update! BESTERED!

Valorant 100IQ Vavle 101IQ

lol u should use 200+ iq for a meme word thats make me smarter than them developer ? cause i have 120iq, heck no

2020-04-18 20:37

U 102 IQ so better than valve developers :D

2020-04-18 21:18

People are now gonna laugh at my gay ass pink crosshair 😭

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menss :(((((((

2020-04-17 02:54

how about me, who is having a specific one (light coral) press F

2020-04-17 03:21

:( same

2020-04-17 04:19

I have a violet one and with a stick of the aim invisible ;-;

I've had a violet one for the longest time

2020-04-17 09:29

axaxaxxaax u use pink axaxaxa

2020-04-17 11:06

nah...i wont laugh at that gay color i play the update and try play casual mode and laugh so hard when i see someone miss lots of shot with the default crosshair (dynamic with dot) *that the sign of a very new player

2020-04-18 20:41

It's hard to still think that valorant didn't change how valve operates at all, you can say the krieg nerf was a coincidence, but this crosshair thing can't be coincidental at all tho. Especially paired up with the krieg nerf in less than a week. Not saying it's bad, it's good that valve's finally gonna start trying(i guess they are?)

this crosshair update has been coming for a while, they added the ‘friend crosshair code’ months ago...

I know, but it just seems like valorant pushed valve into not being lazy fucks, which is good. Everything that was supposed to come months ago suddenly all came straight after valorant, valorant just pushed valve into a normal working schedule instead of spreading out tiny updates to let themselves rest on their laurels

2020-04-17 06:25

Valorant is doing great tbh, we have to thank RIOT for putting valve to work for one of their greatest games if not their greatest game.

2020-04-17 06:59

I still with for S2 to come tho.

I mean, Valorant is basically a 95% copy of csgo, so why not copy some of their things?

2020-04-17 21:12

Why not removing Vertigo and bringing old Cobble instead of making 393838 of changes to make Vertigo playable????

2020-04-17 02:55

u could say the same to 2014 overpass

2020-04-17 06:43

bUt It Is NoT 2014 aNy MoRe AnD oVeRpAsS iS a GoOd MaP, vErTiGo SuCk

2020-04-17 09:47

2020-04-17 21:13

I'm taking a big dump rn

ok what i dont understand is why they dont just remove the window in vertigo in general its stupid

2020-04-17 02:57

Any recent changes to vertigo's been stupid and too fast too much, every week you get a completely new vertigo. If they want to do that many changes, personally i think they should've waited like at least 2-3months and then make a big update instead of these weekly "fuck you, relearn this whole shit" updates

2020-04-17 03:01

and? The map atm is objectively very unbalanced and a pain in the ass to play as CT. holding A site as CT on vertigo is awful, the only way to do it really is constantly pop flashing alley and holding ramp with AWP from specific spots. And with the wooden wall you couldnt even stand around the alley area because you die so easily with huge spam damage and nade combos making it even harder for CTs to hold it.

I do agree the map needs huge amount of work, i guess it's valve's fault for making it into comp play in such a state in the first place

Sure but this way with it being played so much they find the flaws much faster and we get to a version of the map that it actually makes sense

2020-04-17 03:05

Every week? We haven't got a vertigo update in fucking months

2020-04-17 09:55

+1 clueless man

2020-04-17 12:40

They are actually copying the good features from valorant, which is nice

vertigo again...

2020-04-17 03:02

-train -nuke -vertigo +cache +cbble reworked +tuscan

train and nuke are actually entertaining 2 watch while mirage and dust are plainly boring

2020-04-17 05:10

I really don't get why this website doesn't show more pictures of these types of updates .. especially with map changes like this.

lazy

they want you to go ingame and check for yourself more people opening the game = more money s1mple as that my friend but I also hate it and I'm rebelious: when they don't show me the changes I wait a longggggg time before playing the maps again

2020-04-17 03:43

hes talking about hltv not valve

2020-04-17 04:12

oh my mistake

2020-04-17 12:51

Hltv don't work for valve

2020-04-17 09:22

strange they starting to update now :D scared maybe valorant is more competent that valve had a clue about

2020-04-17 03:15

They should have made this as a beta version to see how it works. It's bad that they keep changing vertigo every month and teams have to adapt this 😑

vertigo is the only beta around cs is alpha dude these boys never learn

2020-04-17 03:41

-vertigo +tuscan anyone have same opinion like me?

2020-04-17 03:27

+1 I would also love to see lite remade and added into the comp map pool

-vertigo +aztec

2020-04-17 03:50

bad change, i cried when i saw b site and mid, wtf

2020-04-17 04:05

-Vertigo +Old Cobble. Pls

2020-04-17 04:15

-Valve, +Cache

2020-04-17 04:22

Look at all the updates rolling in all of a sudden, just goes to show that Valve only does the bare minimum when necessary like right now when there's competition on the horizon. Just goes to show that they don't genuinely care about their playerbase. True colours on show, I love it.

2020-04-17 04:31

they are a business you moron, they are in no way obligated to "genuinely care" about the playerbase. we are consumers who bring them money. valve thinks valorant is a competitive threat so they update, trying to retain this playerbase. you acting like valve should be ashamed of their prior inactivity is fucking stupid mate, if your game dominated the market and you had no competition you would have no incentive to change it either

2020-04-17 04:55

Because of their inactivity and hibernation they will lose players and therefore money you fucking moron, read between the lines. This is too little too late. Genuine care for the playerbase and community will always pay off, as people are more willing to purchase stuff. Deliver a subpar battle pass? People won't buy it. A decent example is the first one for Apex Legends, it was straight up garbage, people complained hence not enough profit. Not to mention not frequent enough updates until much later on in the game. You wake up too late, you miss the train.

2020-04-17 06:21

they were able to be inactive because CSGO as a game had no genuine competition (apex legends, overwatch, fortnite, pubg are all not direct competitors to CS). besides, the game is pretty fucking streamlined and balanced as it is. i dont understand why you are looking at this negatively, regardless of if you are a CS or valorant fan, competition is good for both sides. CSGO as an esport has too strong a presence to die anytime soon and riot has good experience cultivating an esports scene. this is good for fans of both games, just look at league vs dota. so stop bitching and look on the bright side.

2020-04-17 07:34

I 100% agree with the latter portion of your comment, I just wished Valve would've done something sooner. I personally really liked Valorant after testing it some, it is what CSPromod should've been back in like 2013.

mibr

2020-04-17 05:01

Wtf is are these vertigo changes again? it feels like update a beta map over again. just at this point cache would be better lmao

2020-04-17 05:26

Interesting. Vertigo definitely needed some tweaks like the wall at A, even an overhaul of B sounds good, but drastic changes to mid I'm not sure about. Looking forward to checking it out! All of the other changes sound like nice tweaks which is good to see, hopefully we get more frequent operations.

2020-04-17 05:50

the only thing i didnt like was the change on the lower floor rotation between sites. My guess it is probably has to do with timing ajdustments, but I liked that part of the map before more. With that out of the way, I think all other changes were for the better. Map looks cleaner, better visibillity, angles look better and the middle section of the map will probably have its importance raised now.

2020-04-17 06:17

Two updates in two weeks. Volvo sweating at the site of Valorant. Thanks competition :)

2020-04-17 06:42

That's what I've been talking prior to Valorant beta release... It would not kill CS, it would help it get better... But people here bashed me about it because they thought Valorant was just weebs game. Finally they're polishing the models, fixing stuff that was broken since a long time ago. I'm expecting Valve to finally care about CSGO and develop it in terms of things we have been complaining about "since ever". Maybe even get a beta version of Source 2 engine during summer and full release it after November's Major.

2020-04-17 07:55

When you control a monopoly, you don't have too try too hard as there is only one. now, we the people, gain. Also, I agree, Valve changing shit so fast that they fucked up (deagle) and fixed it almost instantly (compared to the kreig).

2020-04-17 09:04

Delusional. Check the update history they have multiple udates every month.

2020-04-17 12:32

Don't compare results until the end of the month, it's not really a clear indicator. All I'm saying is they seem to be frequently updating the game since valorant became a thing.

2020-04-17 12:57

I miss old vertigo where you can jump strafe towards T spawn lmao fun casual times.

2020-04-17 06:45

No sandbox in mid Vertigo anymore wtf. Even more T sided. There’s almost no places to hide as a CT in mid now. Good job Volvo.

hey didn't remove it did they? didn't they just move it close to ct ?

2020-04-17 11:57

Bring back Aztec!!

+10

2020-04-17 08:46

+2000

2020-04-17 08:56

Yeah would be awesome !

2020-04-17 15:56

thank you gaben, the only real alpha male

2020-04-17 08:48

after goatzera ofc

2020-04-17 11:24

Valve made a 200-199 iq move with the change on vertigo, I hate it so far

2020-04-17 08:49

Bsite finally feels a real cs site now, damn let's go boys

2020-04-17 08:52

They destroyed B site on vertigo, ffs. I was rekking there

2020-04-17 09:10

I feel ya

2020-04-17 12:46

yeah it was pretty easy to play b site before

2020-04-17 14:21

Yeah, i always just played Solo B with an awp, going aggresive every round, getting an entry and then falling back, but i think its even easier now. I've spent a couple of hours trying angles, one way smokes and peaks, and there are soo many new CT headshot angles that are OP AF.

2020-04-17 14:23

i'm excited to see pros play on it

2020-04-17 14:24

Same, i bet theres gonna be alot of B multi kills.

2020-04-17 14:25

For once they have a competitor for their Game and suddenly they Push out Update after Update.. so we kinda have to assume they were Just lazy.

2020-04-17 09:19

fuck you fuck you and fuck you, 1 year it took you to make this map decent

rather add fucking cache, oh god pls

New cache is garbage

2020-04-17 14:51

best map out there

2020-04-17 22:12

They drive me crazy. Where guys should stay on mid for cover it?? Now we need to give it to T side and camp with awp from the CT spawn corner or new window. Earlier T side was stronger on this map, but now terrorists will will destroy ct's ass at all.

2020-04-17 09:53

You can still fight for mid, push it and smoke it? You can back of to ct spawn and watch b split from there? What's the issue?

+1, just go B site every round and you win

2020-04-17 15:03

Tbh I like how Vertigo looks now

2020-04-17 09:56

🤮(content)

Nice

2020-04-17 10:21

Forza valorante forzaa

2020-04-17 10:39

At least they fixed the deagle. The pros went mad about that insane unbalanced gun.

B looks worse.. Finally felt vertigo was good an finished, i guess valve thought different.

2020-04-17 11:18

T side has much more advantage in B

2020-04-17 15:02

rip khaosdrop

2020-04-17 11:21

I actually think this is a good change because they are making the b site more balanced(as far as i understood) they are making it easier to hold the b site for the CT's by removing the pressure on the b site when having to hold people coming from stairs and sandbags/window. Not sure what they the change on the a site is gonna do for the gameplay. probably making the ct's aggressive as they can't spray the wooden wall to ramp in hope of damage

2020-04-17 11:23

2020-04-17 11:38

nice to see that you agree with me

2020-04-17 11:56

2020-04-17 13:35

Why are they changing Vertigo every month. I mean, i like this map, I play it a lot, but they are changing it every month and again I have to learn it all from the start. Just stop doing that.

2020-04-17 11:49

Can't understand Valve's affair with Vertigo. In 1 year they have revamped it so many times, whereas it takes years to revamp single aspects of other maps

2020-04-17 12:00

Just bring back cobble or cache and remove this shit vertigo

2020-04-17 12:06

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2020-04-17 15:45

without valorant jumping deagle would have stayed for like 2 years

2020-04-17 12:20

okey

Now i envy teams that ban vertigo, motherfuckers changing it every time,when we finally learned to play it

2020-04-17 12:37

Haha they copied crosshair stuff from Valorant

2020-04-17 12:38

2020-04-17 12:52

Who the f** cares about Vertigo? Add cbble, Tuscan or even Aztec over that shit...

2020-04-17 13:15

Anubis plz .. it's fun

2020-04-17 14:34

Pretty crazy that a map IN COMPETITIVE CS can get completely redesigned on another site AGAIN. Never mind all the hours days and weeks teams put into strats for the map. Obviously Valve just making all the pro players get off Valorant servers and back onto cs servers.

2020-04-17 13:44

yeah fuck valve for making vertigo more playable

2020-04-17 14:19

Did u not get my point???? It’s in the competitive rotation. Every strat for the B site is over. Testing new setups or redoing sites completely should be done by the regular players. Look at dust2 cache etc etc. they took the maps out of the pro scene and reworked them. I’m not complaining about that that’s great. I’m complaining about the teams players that now gota go back and redo the entire strat book for this already shit ass map.

2020-04-17 17:38

yeah there were really complex strats for taking B before smoke in the middle / window or just a straight up contact play do you even watch pro games or just come up on hltv to complain about shit? american brain

2020-04-17 18:39

Lmao that’s ur reply. No strats in taking b only 1 smoke. Lmfao. Why didn’t every team just take b if it’s easy and simple?? Ashamed of showing flag brain

2020-04-18 15:01

that's why teams almost always went to A because B was so easy to hold as a CT and even with utilty it was near impossible to take as a T did I say it was easy to take the site? no idiot

2020-04-18 18:10

Well it is a construction site after all ;D

2020-04-17 14:36

Lmao

2020-04-17 17:33

Bad move valve, they shouldve just replace vertigo with a real map like cache or smth

2020-04-17 14:07

Train updates literally pointless its still a boring CT heavy map

2020-04-17 14:38

they destroyed B site in vertigo

2020-04-17 15:01

No. They repaired it. It is a lot better now.

2020-04-17 16:36

Nice, I enjoy the connector layout as well as the new B site look. Also, the new angles from the mid boost look good towards B!

2020-04-17 15:52

b site change idk man, window change its dope and i like the new middle

2020-04-17 16:43

Ok hear me out how about putting 3 maps in sort of a Spare map veto before the real map veto begins. There would be Cache, Vertigo and Cobble and the players would vote for one map which would get into the real map veto and would have a chance to be played. And then the real veto would begin with the map which was voted from the "spare map pool".

2020-04-17 16:53

i don't understand why they keep making changes to vertigo istead of removing it from the map pool. It's the worst map i ever played by far

2020-04-17 17:20

because csgo devs dosent care about community or pros? thats why Valorant will take over CS, cuz they care. its 15 years and they still dont add tuscan and playing same 4 shitty maps last 15years. The game is just old i like cs dont me wrong i lost 15years of my life to this game. Its time for changes man

2020-04-17 18:04