Bad News Bears disband

13-5-2020 02:35

Will "⁠dazzLe⁠" Loafman has announced that Bad News Bears have disbanded after some of its members received opportunities to compete elsewhere.

The announcement came shortly after Jonathan "⁠Jonji⁠" Carey was enlisted as a replacement for Nathan "⁠leaf⁠" Orf on Chaos, with Michael "⁠dapr⁠" Gulino taking to Twitter not long after the reveal to announce his own intention to switch over to VALORANT. The team had already suffered a blow in April after Austin "⁠crashies⁠" Roberts stepped down to pursue a career in Riot Games' new tactical shooter.

The core of the Bad News Bears roster first came together in January 2019, rising to prominence after being signed by Riot Squad in June of the same year. The additions of Pujan "⁠FNS⁠" Mehta and Jonji helped propel the team to new heights as they went on to achieve a top-two finish in ESEA MDL Season 32, notably becoming the first North American team to earn a place in the grand finals of a Global Challenge event despite eventually conceding a loss to FORZE.

Bad News Bears are no more

The team, who were ranked No. 33 in the world, also made headlines when they played under the FunPlus Phoenix banner in Flashpoint 1, managing a 7-8th finish by outplacing the likes of Chaos, Envy, and c0ntact.

They were also slated to compete in the upcoming North American division of DreamHack Masters Spring, but will no longer take part in the event after the team chose to go their separate ways.

While dazzLe revealed that he plans to continue competing in CS:GO and dapr announced his intention to move to VALORANT, the future of Peter "⁠ptr⁠" Gurney and Mitch "⁠mitch⁠" Semago is currently unknown.

Bad News Bears consisted of:

Peter "⁠ptr⁠" Gurney
Jonathan "⁠Jonji⁠" Carey
Mitch "⁠mitch⁠" Semago
Michael "⁠dapr⁠" Gulino
Will "⁠dazzLe⁠" Loafman

unfortunate scenes for NA :( excited for Jonji to join Chaos tho!

2020-05-13 02:39

36 replies

At least some na players are loyal

2020-05-13 02:37

22 replies

NA so bad only relevant in vaLULrant

2020-05-13 02:40

18 replies

Until EU joins the server

2020-05-13 02:54

17 replies

2020-05-13 03:34

14 replies

Rip NA scene Dapr gone:(

2020-05-13 06:01

13 replies

he will be back after the hype is down, just like xms when he switched to pro fortnite for a few months

2020-05-13 10:57

12 replies

Pro fortnite lol

2020-05-13 11:00

11 replies

ikr, terrible

2020-05-13 11:01

10 replies

Well if you win like that13 year old won 14 million or something then you are noice

2020-05-13 11:09

9 replies

oh yeah that Fortnite WC was nonsense wtf A one time thing at the top of the hype

2020-05-13 11:10

8 replies

Imagine how much epic is making if they can throw millions just like dat 🤡👌

2020-05-13 12:10

6 replies

valve is making even more money, but gaben doesnt give a crap

2020-05-13 12:24

5 replies

I wonder how much money is enough. Where is the limit for gaben..

2020-05-13 12:42

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No limits. The dude focuses on hunting those that use skin changer rather than aimbots , wh and spinbots , lol. Skins = makes $ , cheaters = meh , who cars bout MM anyways

2020-05-13 16:34

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Its just weird for me, a regular working person. He literally makes more money than he can spend in his remaining time. Its greedy af

2020-05-13 17:30

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That's literally every single wealthy person.... stop hating on Gaben because it's the cool thing to do... in Poland apparently.

2020-05-13 18:51

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Im not hating WTF maple syrup

2020-05-13 19:41

Dude only kids with low iq can plau that shit. And they switch in NA cuz they are tired of being pissed on by EU and looking to hide in some other game

EU isn't interested in that shit game since they know they can have a healthy carreer in the way better CSGO.

2020-05-13 11:16

gained respect for dazzle

2020-05-13 09:06

2020-05-13 13:39

He said what a lot of amateurs are feeling. Nice to hear from a pro/semi-pro. And if he does switch it'll show he tried finding another avenue in CS:GO first. Love it.

2020-05-13 23:40

Expected

2020-05-13 02:42

MIBR next one

2020-05-13 03:07

mibr not is NA

2020-05-13 05:06

then why do they always play in NA quals? And why are they living in LA?

2020-05-13 11:17

because SA doesn't have a scenario like oceania

2020-05-14 01:39

MiBR just isn't an NA team anymore. Their heritage may lay in SA but they aren't SA at this point.

2020-05-14 10:28

Why u dumb??? U probably think furia is in Brazil also.

2020-05-13 13:02

I'm not talking about the organization

2020-05-14 01:40

MIBR good enough to play both Valorant and CS:GO at the same time.

2020-05-13 06:04

MIBR bad enough to be irrelevant in both games lmao

2020-05-13 10:03

True LMAO

2020-05-13 13:40

Well they were signed to riot squad at some point.. so the writing was on the wall that they would switch to valoshit

2020-05-13 06:25

bad news: Bears disband

2020-05-14 04:54

bye

2020-05-13 02:35

holy shit there is a God?

2020-05-13 05:44

Name checks out

2020-05-13 06:27

He is 2

That's the joke

2020-05-13 17:26

Oh.... 😩👌

Sad

2020-05-13 04:56

Ok.

2020-05-13 04:57

2020-05-13 12:12

Shame, they had promise.

wow unexpected

-1

2020-05-13 21:09

omegalul

2020-05-13 02:36

Another NA Tier999 disband Also moving to Valorant is 10 Iq move

I agree moving to valorant is dumb, but this team had promise. they broke hltv top 30, and they even beat some decent teams.

2020-05-13 02:41

They were half decent most of the time. Not top tier, but no team starts that way. They had promise

2020-05-13 08:23

They probably earn more at Valorant. How is that dumb

2020-05-13 09:53

i doubt it, just because some got a big offer for a lot of money, i doubt they will get a contract nearly that size considering they dont really have a history in esports

2020-05-13 11:07

You don't earn shit in VaLULrant until you're signed and with all these washed up "pros" flooding the scene clamoring for teams, the game not even being out of beta yet, no official tournaments being announced yet with only shitty small scale low-paying invitationals being organised by things like 100Thieves there is little reason for teams to even pick you up at this point. Making the switch now is borderline retarded and it's just jumping on an overhyped piece of trash, same as with PUBG back in the day. Way too much hype for such a mediocre game. All these "pros" will face the cold hard reality soon enough that their carreers will be just as dead in that trash game as it was in CS:GO and that they will get paid just as much and what will they do then? desperately jump to another game or go work at Mcdonalds or some shit.

2020-05-13 11:25

They will probably get more views on twitch when they are streaming Valorant. All these people will be the first generation of Pro player that play the game when Riot start applying the LOL system onto Valorant. Agree or not, there will definitely be tournaments for this game and it will work for sure by the looks of it. Riot invested a lot into this game and they will commit everything they can into this. Teams will not pick any player up until the game is F2P. I agree this is a mediocre game but riot game did a great job hyping it up

2020-05-13 11:51

views on twitch does not equal money, subscribers do. And most of the viewers are just bots tying to get a key, they are not engaging with the stream other than their view in any way. We're still a long way off from Riot starting to announce and host tournaments and even further off from it being franchised. Also a lot of people are complaining it's a snoozefest when you are spectating and I have to agree so when viewership is below expectations when the game has fully released I wonder how hard Riot will keep pushing it and how they will try to entice viewers to actually watch the game. Right now with people overhyping it and players flooding to become "pro" in the game with almost no teams willing to pick players up just means an oversaturated market and that means there is a very high possibility that the players that are making the switch to revive their carreers aren't even getting picked up which means they are stuck in the exact same situation as before, that's why I think it's an incredibly stupid move fully commiting to Valorant at this moment.

2020-05-13 12:11

I don't think switching to Valorant is the best choice either but I can understand their choice. The ultimate reason is they are not that good in CS, so they try to pursue a different career.

2020-05-13 17:09

They were decent enough in CS where they made both EPL and Flashpoint in their respective regions. To throw that away and gamble on an unproven game with literally no scene yet is beyond stupid to me.

2020-05-13 17:15

Couldnt have said it better myself, thanks for finally speaking the truth. As much as I like brax, I even consider his move to valorant questionable, but at least he had some other reasons behind the decision.

2020-05-14 06:28

+111111

2020-05-13 18:58

Haha all these muricans think they will be the best in Valorant haha noobs

2020-05-13 12:15

BADARANTES_KILLED_CS

lmao every tier3 NA team going to valorant

lol

MIBR DISBAND NEXT PLEASE

Please

Keep in mind you wouldn't be able to make fun of Brazilians when they lose if they disband

2020-05-13 02:43

2020-05-13 02:45

It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

2020-05-13 03:05

+100000

2020-05-13 03:42

He would just hate on the next big things everyone else hates on, it's how human sheeps work

2020-05-13 10:54

Valorant destroyed the NA CS scene. Good luck to all in the new game

manito is crazy because they are a promise team , but i play valorant and is a good game, It has all the ingredients to be just as addictive as csgo, but that is something that will be seen over time.

2020-05-13 06:06

its because there are no t3 na orgs like there are t3 eu orgs, all these players arent getting paid and want a paycheck

2020-05-13 06:50

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That's a thing.

2020-05-13 09:10

Maybe git gud and then you can get payed. Its not like theyre entitled to one

2020-05-13 10:22

How would they pay the bills then?

2020-05-13 11:30

maybe idk uh go to school? get a fucking job instead of hoping you can make it in the esports scene.

Or they could just switch to Valorant? Stay mad sweaty CS fanboy

2020-05-13 18:35

They could. im not saying what theyre doing is wrong. All i stated was that they werent good enough for a paycheck in csgo.

2020-05-13 18:50

Why should they be entitled to pay the bills from csgo? You do realize you need to be good at a game to earn a full time wage.. If you can't make the cut you do what everyone else does and work a normal job. The fact of the matter most people at their level are only paid part time wages and earn more with a little side job. That's all they deserve.

2020-05-13 14:12

this is depressing. tier 2 NA just doesn’t exist anymore. you’re either tier 1 or totally irrelevant

2020-05-13 02:38

are you saying Chaos is tier 1? xd

chaos and triumph are the only exceptions. but that’s literally only 2 teams. europe and cis have so many more compres to their tier 1. tier 2 teams should outnumber tier 1 teams in a region

2020-05-13 04:05

I really don't get how na cannot build a solid t2 structure. U have the players, u have the economy

2020-05-13 06:22

Maybe no orgs want to sign players and then players say fuck it and go to valorant even tho game is still in beta

2020-05-13 11:03

It's because not enough orgs picked up NA teams mainly. Can't make a living, can't get recognized, might as well switch to more opportunity. It's really depressing, I was hoping the eUnited/Lazarus/Ghost projects would work out but it seems like the teams just peak for a few weeks then collapse.

Also there’s no infrastructure in NA like there is in EU. Every week there’s a new skins cup for T2-3 EU teams that attracts thousands of viewers. This makes it easier for orgs to operate and pick up teams. NA has like MDL and Mythic cup. Ultimately it seems like there’s just no viewership in NA like there is in EU. NA orgs can’t survive outside of EPL/FP. There’s no incentive otherwise.

2020-05-13 03:33

True - I rarely see anyone even talk about Mythic Cup. And it is sometimes months between matches for teams like Bad News Bears. It's too bad.

2020-05-13 05:02

+1 good reply

2020-05-14 05:26

And the problem with lower tier NA Orgs is there's minimal tournament in NA. This month in EU there's Blast Rising, Home Sweet Home and several gambling website sponsored tournament while in NA there's only MDL. Hard for lower tier Orgs to grow, there's only few spot for RtR, Dreamhack which mostly already occupied by more established Orgs. Not qualify for that means no income at all since there's no alternative lower tier tournament. CS GO just don't attract enough sponsorship in NA.

2020-05-13 03:36

2020-05-13 04:03

2020-05-13 05:01

tier 2? tier 5 at max

tier 2 in NA

t2 in na=t5 eu

Hell yeah !!

Ofc NA bots which have zero skill, are going to play bot friendly game called Valorant. Respect for Dazzle for his tweet.

Seems like valorant killed t2 NA scene, sad days for NA cs i guess

well t2 NA scene is tier 1 in valorant, so guess why they switched :)

2020-05-13 05:19

I don't understand, why is it so bad for players to switch over to Valorant. I see no issue with this yet people are flooding the forums with "wont be missed", "bad anyways", etc. Also, people act like Valorant is going to flop, yet riot games is the most competent game developers in the industry when it comes to esports. Look at league, probably the most successful esport in the industry. Honestly just seems like a bunch of 15 year old's who don't understand you need a paycheck to live.

2020-05-13 08:54

im crying everything hurts :(((( but gl to the NA boys in valorant

so expected from na

Another NA roster lost to the superior game.

now somebody please replace ryann in Envy

Mibr next, valorant to explode in tier 3 Brazil

2020-05-13 02:44

> dapr announced his intention to move to VALORANT CSGO is dead in NA

2020-05-13 02:46

ryann to valorant please :(

2020-05-13 02:47

All these teams imgur.com/a/KCJY7DK are next to disband xd

2020-05-13 02:48

2020-05-13 03:54

name checks out

2020-05-13 11:42

NACS lul

2020-05-13 02:50

all NA scene disbanding lol

Very sad news however what's more sad is that mibr still has not disband

2020-05-13 02:52

Feel sad for dazzle.. F. :(

VALORANT will create space in the NA scene for young talents if this keeps up. All washed up pros going for the new game.

2020-05-13 02:55

No reason for young players to even pursue CSGO careers when they can just compete in the fresh VALORANT scene with bigger money and developer support.

2020-05-13 02:59

Assuming it will be this way

Look at Leaf and TenZ.

So far the hype is leaning that way. Still lets see if it sticks.

2020-05-13 03:00

Valve should invest in lower tiers to give visibility for young talents and their orgs.

2020-05-13 03:06

"Even if the chances to make money are better in Valorant, i'm not going to switch as of right now. I'll continue grinding the game i love" Yeah like freak See you on valorant in a couple of weeks bro

2020-05-13 02:57

mobile.twitter.com/FezerinoYT/status/125..

2020-05-13 10:27

Lmao

na cs players.... lmao Theres a reason u dont see too many eu players going to valorant hahahah

Because there are more orgs willing to sign European teams, and betting regulations allow for more sponsors in Europe. Not to mention changes to the Pro League qualification process, and many other factors that leave non-tier 1 NA CS players with few options.

2020-05-13 03:01

Do you realize how fucked the scene when all major sponsors are betting and gambling companies?

mad lions isn't. In fact, they have no direct sponsors. I could only find 1, a water bottle company

2020-05-13 03:44

Backed by dumb investors who got tricked by marketing team (look at VPs and officers) overactivemedia.com Will collapse as soon as they steal/burn all invested capital.

2020-05-13 04:15

So..... Banking on a new, unproven game with the HOPE of an LCS type of infrastructure is a smart idea too right? Idk, maybe these top players have knowledge that I don't. Pro League quals was fucked though, ngl. The reason I'd imagine EU players get more opportunities goes further than just betting sponsors and it boils down to 1 word: consistency. Case & point: MAD Lions.

2020-05-13 03:25

Also wanted to mention u can easily compare and contrast the godsent roster and the orgless roster. Both were given a very similar hand, I'd even argue the godsent roster was dealt a harder hand. (obviously before they were picked up)

What? I disagree, they cycled through a lot of different forms of the team. Before godsent they were signed by smash, also they took part in a lot of eu based smaller events to earn cash to live on. Events like these do not exist in NA. Someone said it in a post earlier but valve really should invest in smaller events if they want to pursue talent in NA.

2020-05-13 08:59

In this last hltv confirmed, pronax said smash wasnt paying the guys, which is why they was able to get them on a ez transfer. The reason i make the comparison is because they went a while without getting paid- even had to make roster changes back when frozen got picked up by mouz (ppl forget about that) Orgless may not have ben able to enter smaller tourneys, but they had the liberty of some payment because if you don't know, flashpoint themselves sponsored the guys by paying them (confirmed by thorin) a little bit of money on top of whatever they earned from winning. I will say though, it sucks they couldn't stay in the league. FPX should've signed them if u ask me, but thats just my bias for wanting to see what they couldve became in the 2nd season The point i was making was that the godsent guys went a while without getting paid, had to climb the much harder eu ladder of rankings, and in that time, developed consistency. Orgless on the other hand had many of the same parallels, but couldn't develop the consistency needed to be a good enough team to sponsor. Instead, they cry about "they have coaches :(" and "they have more resources, its unfair :(". U can't use that card when one day u can beat DIG, but can then lose to like, triumph or something. In another HLTV confirmed, daps explained there are a lot of orgs who want to get into csgo. But.... they don't want to waste their time with rosters who aren't that good. BNB and Orgless both have had prime opportunities to prove themselves worthy over the past few months, but of course, they lost because NA CS fucking sucks and nobody wants to pay inconsistent players.

Honestly, on the side of the whole orgless vs godsent, its really hard for either of us to comment on considering we have no information on how well off the players were financially prior to getting contracts. Now, talking about NA CS I have to say it's Valves fault. Look at league, Na LCS is no where near as good as EU LCS or the Asian scene. Yet it still attracts huge orgs. You seem very reasonable and I think you can agree that Valve has made one bad mistake after another with csgo's competitive scene. Whether it's banning IBP for life (I say this because in the grand scheme of this these players had and still have large fan bases), or just straight up ignoring CS for years in favor of dota2. I think Valorant will be the biggest wake up call to Valves esports. Also, IMO dota2 lost years ago to league in terms of esports, professionalism, etc. There's so many factors in terms of NA CS I could write a whole article. But the biggest one has to be the absence of Valve.

2020-05-13 13:53

Damn respect dazzle

gl to ptr, best guy in NA

2020-05-13 03:03

RIP NA scene even leaf like wtf Hopefully we dont lose Triumph either...

Honestly, if I were to make a decision, I just want to play Valorant for fun (even though I don't have it), instead of worrying about being a pro player on a "beta" game, in order to make a living. I mean, CS still has a place in my heart.

2020-05-13 03:04

Their time has come, sooner or later must be Liquid.

Damn dapr had so much talent too. Valorant been tearing the scene apart

Bad news

2020-05-13 03:10

trash team anyway

2020-05-13 03:11

Respect for dazzle

2020-05-13 03:12

One week later, dazzle retire for Valorant.

2020-05-13 03:32

Would be the first one to say he wont go to valulrant and then do it a few days later anyway

2020-05-13 10:30

Sad but true :(

2020-05-13 23:38

MIBR next pls

2020-05-13 03:20

na scene in a nutshell

2020-05-13 03:22

MIBR NEXT PLS

2020-05-13 03:23

thank you riot for taking out the trash

the amount of NA pros who have switched to Valorant is insane heres a list: Infinite Dapr Crashies Swag WARDELL Freakazoid Zellsis Food Subroza Tenz Leaf SicK ShahZam Reltuc Relyks

2020-05-13 03:28

t2/t3 NA is dead the best NA teams are now forced to go internacional if they need to make changes sad times for NA

2020-05-13 03:29

I do appreciate the fact that every single one appart from shazam on that list haven't played in a t1 event in years or are youngsters who totally wasted their one shot at fame.

An actual clown list Thrower, toxic cosplayer, a bully, an actual cheater and list goes on Wtf NA?!

2020-05-13 09:50

you are the clown, bud

2020-05-13 10:13

Nt clown9 You are the biggest clown here

2020-05-13 10:21

A list of rejects, cheaters and paycheck-stealing losers. Won't be missed in CS except for their toxic fellows

2020-05-13 13:37

if they keep disbanding soon enough we gonna see mythic seriously competing for a spot at the major...

2020-05-13 03:24

imagine... mythic STICKERS

Hope fl0m and his fellow washed up bots move to Valorant too

2020-05-13 13:35

I support CS, but I can't blame these players who are leaving. If they aren't able to make enough money to live on playing CS then who can blame them? being stuck at the MDL level doesn't benefit the players enough financially to continue in the game. Let them do what they want, no reason to knock the hussle.

2020-05-13 03:27

i guess a likely new roster for NA could be Cooper Marke FNS ANDROID Yay since those are the only decent NA pros left who arent apart of Liquid, EG, Gen.G, Cloud, Envy or Triumph

2020-05-13 03:30

fns is definitely leaving together with android and yay haha

FeelsBadMan for fns may not be the best igl out there but the guy is highly dedicated to the game

And to ruining teams

2020-05-13 13:34

Next FaZe and MiBR

my boi dazzle <3

Bruh wtf is wrong with the NA teams???????? Literally ranked #33 and players switch to Trashorant...?

2020-05-13 03:38

no money I guess

2020-05-13 16:15

Well yeah, thats what... i believe dazzLe said, or someone. But still, they gotta keep grinding. And i heard that some of these pros that switch over have recieved offers from small orgs with a meh/ok salary yet they said no because they think or expect that they will get 10k a month or something.

2020-05-13 18:05

death, taxes, and tier 3 NA teams quitting cs for valorant

2020-05-13 03:40

TO VALORANT?

:( sad

2020-05-13 03:47

another one bites the dust

valorant isnt even out of beta yet, i would laugh my ass off if all those greedy wanna be pros left csgo for no reason in the end

2020-05-13 03:51

they will come back crawling once teenagers who have grinded the game 16 hours a day perfecting the new mechanics will surpass them like what happened in fortnite and overwatch

2020-05-13 16:23

This is facts, anyone trying to go pro and hold down a real job after their teenage/college years is competing against the next generation that has unlimited time, unlimited resources, and parental support. Poor kids don't become eSports pros except Sumail in Dota2.

2020-05-13 21:21

I liked their name. :( Valorant destroying CS scene slowly. Hopefully Volvo finally do something new to the game.

2020-05-13 03:57

NA CS is dead

2020-05-13 04:00

how embarrassing na.

2020-05-13 04:01

Can't wait to see all this mid-low tier CS:GO players switching to Valorant, fail miserably against Chinese Crossfire players and Koreans jumping the Overwatch boat.

Tbh... The clash of all these players from different regions and games clashing on Valorant got me interested as fuck... I think South Korea will be top region in a few years.

2020-05-13 04:17

Those fuckers played GunZ, S4, Crossfire, and GITS religiously for decades. The western scene can't compete.

2020-05-13 04:35

I can see them winning against these two. The gun play is similar to what we have in cs and abilities will be nerfed sooner or later for some classes. You probably won't be able to rely on them too much. Since the only thing that na has is (actual good aimers) They have a chance to compete or even destroying asian scene. But for now fuk badlorant because every time i play i'm forced to play on turkish servers wich is as bad as ruskies in csgo (they even don't bother to say a single word in english)

2020-05-13 10:04

valorant top kek

2020-05-13 04:20

Respect to dazzle

2020-05-13 04:25

NA tier 3 scene is imploding

2020-05-13 05:45

2020-05-13 05:46

MIBR NEXT

2020-05-13 04:38

MIBR NEXT 100%

2020-05-13 05:36

very sad

Why is Leaf being replaced. Wasn't he just signed?

he left on his own

2020-05-13 10:19

valulrant

2020-05-13 06:08

NA the easiest place to make shitload of money just by being mediocre. None of them will make it in Valorant.

get rekt in valor ant

2020-05-13 06:21

Valorant incoming

2020-05-13 06:24

bro imagine guys screaming because they killed someone with a bubble on lan. That will be the worst decision for those NA players

2020-05-13 06:26

Yeah, being killed by paint explosions, remote control cars, soap bubbles and so on shouldn't be so glorious in a LAN hehe

2020-05-13 13:33

Waiting MIBR kek

2020-05-13 06:48

next on HLTV news: "BNB roster moves to tactical shooter Valorant"

2020-05-13 06:54

dapr had alot of potential and now this son of a bitch went over to valorant where he will keep being orgless

2020-05-13 06:55

Expected from csgo-killer

2020-05-13 07:00

NA CS move to NA VALORANT

2020-05-13 07:01

SO WHAT obaut those spot in dreamhacks masters?

2020-05-13 07:22

Never heard of them

2020-05-13 07:39

EG fix -tarik +dapr SO EZ

2020-05-13 07:41

Unfortunate name...

2020-05-13 07:43

Tier 3 CHECK Na CHECK Washed up CHECK Valotrash timeeeee🗑🗑🗑

2020-05-13 07:59

KEKW

2020-05-13 08:34

LOL

2020-05-13 08:40

xDD

NA Teams; If no one sign them for a month. They disband , They dont add new players, dont trial new players.dont know It's USA is rich country ,So They can play without a organization

2020-05-13 08:29

They want it the easy way, as if orgs were obligated to sign paycheck-stealing dirty ass players

2020-05-13 13:31

NA cs dead

ENVY to dreamhack ?

2020-05-13 09:08

i think they should get it

2020-05-13 10:42

The NA scene.... Create team, play for a couple of weeks, complain that no orgs want to sign them while they still haven't proven themselves to be worth signing, disband or make roster changes. Perhaps if they invested som time and effort into actually becoming a somewhat stable team they'd stand a chance.

2020-05-13 09:13

They only care about paycheck stealing. No orgs considering paying your shit level CS? Alright Ima disband lol xD

2020-05-13 13:19

2020-05-13 09:20

All of the players who left so far were shit/ washed up/ banned, what a weird coincidence 🤔

2020-05-13 09:21

Yeah, only shit players saying that CS has become tedious and stale, what a coincidence 🤔👀

2020-05-13 13:18

The truth is that T2/T3 scene in NA is really weak partly due to lack of tournaments and money in ecosystem. Which is weird, because NA is quite rich continent regarding e-sports. But the other part is that lot of teams are generally very weak overall (no chance to ever achieve something like T1, poor discipline, core of team never sticks together for more than 3 months, etc.) and want org within few weeks, despite completely unproven. Valorant seems like solution, but it won't be. Ye, i can imagine some guys will succeed there for a while, because they started soon, but in 1-2 years there will be plenty better players and they will be forced to quit (or go to even shittier game). And all that said is assuming that valorant will be super successful in long run(!), which is not clear at all to be honest.

2020-05-13 09:28

valorant destroying cs

2020-05-13 09:42

destroying NA's tier99 scene*

2020-05-13 10:39

that's some bad news

lol, all NA teams disbanding. Soon there will be no one in NA scene.

its a good thing, less NA teams more EU invites = Better Major!

2020-05-13 11:08

Less NA team, less major winning chances for NA :DD

Not stonks

2020-05-13 13:29

Wtf ptr is 29

2020-05-13 10:36

Valorant is so shit omg why anyone is playing this trash

2020-05-13 10:37

it doesnt matter if the salary is good enough

2020-05-13 11:04

still was better than mibr

2020-05-13 10:50

lmao whole NA scene to valorant , they werent relevant anyway

Bad news for bad news bears i guess.

2020-05-13 11:13

so sad to see CSGO is dying step by step

2020-05-13 11:26

finally

2020-05-13 11:31

respect for dazzle

2020-05-13 11:34

whatever...

2020-05-13 11:48

assholes, go fuck yourself. WHo cares you noob shits except dazzle. dazzel you earned respect man as of now.

2020-05-13 11:54

No honour or loyalty in NA CS. Backstabbers and turncoats only

2020-05-13 12:09

And dirty opportunists

2020-05-13 13:17

ptr or dapr to envy?

I hope they can BEAR this BAD NEWS

2020-05-13 12:23

wtf That was a pretty decent team

dapr to Envy to replace ryan.

2020-05-13 12:26

ptr s2

2020-05-13 12:39

I missread Fnatic disband xDDD

At this rate only EG, C9 and Liquid are the only teams left.

2020-05-13 12:51

Sad news they were doing great. Another valorant lineup?

2020-05-13 12:55

Very bad news :(

Sad to see the best team logo disband with the best name :( gonna miss them.

Bad sign for CS:GO when #33 teams disband for Valorant.

2020-05-13 13:05

Irrelevant washed up bot team disband as most of its players switch over to Valorant in order to steal some paychecks from unaware orgs

2020-05-13 13:16

2020-05-13 13:41

Dazzle a man of honor to not follow the pukeorant bandwagon

2020-05-13 13:54

Was playing really bad anyway.

2020-05-13 14:00

Can somebody explain, why is it that we only see a bunch of NA players switching to Valorant, but not really any EU ones?

2020-05-13 14:11

cause in EU u got more stable situation with orgs/salaries i guess swole patrol and BNB were looking for an org for so long and didnt get any so i guess $$$ is the reason

2020-05-13 14:25

In EU even advanced teams have an org, In Na it's much harder to get a good org, even teams that are in pro league were orgless

2020-05-13 15:08

Every single EU team is sponsored by betting / gambling websites and companies. In the US this business is banned (very strictly regulated). Traditional sponsors avoid CSGO because of its theme (terrorism, bombs, killing cops). So there is almost no money in NA scene for teams outside of top 5.

2020-05-13 16:10

"Traditional sponsors avoid CSGO because of its theme (terrorism, bombs, killing cops)" damn, i didnt really think about it like that

2020-05-13 16:33

the bearer of bad news

2020-05-13 15:20

who?

2020-05-13 15:27

This was bad news for them.

2020-05-13 15:38

Sad to see my favorite team go, but I'm very excited for Jonji on Chaos and I think Dapr has a chance to go to a good org

2020-05-13 15:39

Dapr went to valorant. Wanted him to get a shot with a bigger org for two years now.

2020-05-13 17:34

Rip CS GO

2020-05-13 16:53

rip

RIP NA welcome south america

I mean if I got offered a new position that payed better I think I'd take it

2020-05-13 17:44

Well, they didn't, actually

2020-05-13 20:01

I mean valorant probs gonna pay well or everyone wouldn't flock there

2020-05-14 03:14

Its a gamble, maybe it'll work out, maybe Valorant esports isn't going to be a thing for another 6-9 months and no org is gonna pick them up, that is if they're even good enough at the game to be picked up. I can understand the move but I find it extremely risky, you throw away an actual career for a chance to earn alot of money, but an even bigger chance to fail completely and be done with it.

2020-05-14 06:39

RIP NA losing everything to Valorant

2020-05-13 19:08

Really don't see what the fuss is all about and why so many players are changing to this game. Got my valorant key yesterday, they must be giving it out to almost everyone nowaday, because i only had a stream running for 2 hours in the background while working, played for a few hours... as someone who played CS since 1999, valorant doesn't speak to me. Something is just off -- the fantasy setting doesnt help either, some things are just not intuitive. I don't know. Played CS Beta 5.2 later that evening with some friends -- now thats a good game ;)

2020-05-14 08:34