Bad News Bears disband

Will "⁠dazzLe⁠" Loafman has announced that Bad News Bears have disbanded after some of its members received opportunities to compete elsewhere.

The announcement came shortly after Jonathan "⁠Jonji⁠" Carey was enlisted as a replacement for Nathan "⁠leaf⁠" Orf on Chaos, with Michael "⁠dapr⁠" Gulino taking to Twitter not long after the reveal to announce his own intention to switch over to VALORANT. The team had already suffered a blow in April after Austin "⁠crashies⁠" Roberts stepped down to pursue a career in Riot Games' new tactical shooter.

The core of the Bad News Bears roster first came together in January 2019, rising to prominence after being signed by Riot Squad in June of the same year. The additions of Pujan "⁠FNS⁠" Mehta and Jonji helped propel the team to new heights as they went on to achieve a top-two finish in ESEA MDL Season 32, notably becoming the first North American team to earn a place in the grand finals of a Global Challenge event despite eventually conceding a loss to FORZE.

Bad News Bears are no more

The team, who were ranked No. 33 in the world, also made headlines when they played under the FunPlus Phoenix banner in Flashpoint 1, managing a 7-8th finish by outplacing the likes of Chaos, Envy, and c0ntact.

They were also slated to compete in the upcoming North American division of DreamHack Masters Spring, but will no longer take part in the event after the team chose to go their separate ways.

While dazzLe revealed that he plans to continue competing in CS:GO and dapr announced his intention to move to VALORANT, the future of Peter "⁠ptr⁠" Gurney and Mitch "⁠mitch⁠" Semago is currently unknown.

Bad News Bears consisted of:

United States Peter "⁠ptr⁠" Gurney
Canada Jonathan "⁠Jonji⁠" Carey
United States Mitch "⁠mitch⁠" Semago
United States Michael "⁠dapr⁠" Gulino
United States Will "⁠dazzLe⁠" Loafman

United States Michael 'dapr' Gulino
Michael 'dapr' Gulino
Age:
21
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
594
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
United States Peter 'ptr' Gurney
Peter 'ptr' Gurney
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
986
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.61
United States Mitch 'mitch' Semago
Mitch 'mitch' Semago
Age:
23
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
807
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.65
Canada Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
639
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.71
Canada Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
953
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.68
United States Nathan 'leaf' Orf
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
Age:
16
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
108
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
United States Will 'dazzLe' Loafman
Will 'dazzLe' Loafman
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
643
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.71
United States Austin 'crashies' Roberts
Austin 'crashies' Roberts
Age:
22
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
336
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
#1
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United States Yabashira
unfortunate scenes for NA :( excited for Jonji to join Chaos tho!
2020-05-13 02:39
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United States ShawnM
At least some na players are loyal
2020-05-13 02:37
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22 replies
NA so bad only relevant in vaLULrant
2020-05-13 02:40
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18 replies
Until EU joins the server
2020-05-13 02:54
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17 replies
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Brazil LILJUMEXD
+1
2020-05-13 03:34
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14 replies
Rip NA scene Dapr gone:(
2020-05-13 06:01
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13 replies
he will be back after the hype is down, just like xms when he switched to pro fortnite for a few months
2020-05-13 10:57
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12 replies
Pro fortnite lol
2020-05-13 11:00
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11 replies
ikr, terrible
2020-05-13 11:01
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10 replies
Well if you win like that13 year old won 14 million or something then you are noice
2020-05-13 11:09
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9 replies
oh yeah that Fortnite WC was nonsense wtf A one time thing at the top of the hype
2020-05-13 11:10
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8 replies
Imagine how much epic is making if they can throw millions just like dat 🤡👌
2020-05-13 12:10
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6 replies
valve is making even more money, but gaben doesnt give a crap
2020-05-13 12:24
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5 replies
I wonder how much money is enough. Where is the limit for gaben..
2020-05-13 12:42
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4 replies
No limits. The dude focuses on hunting those that use skin changer rather than aimbots , wh and spinbots , lol. Skins = makes $ , cheaters = meh , who cars bout MM anyways
2020-05-13 16:34
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3 replies
Its just weird for me, a regular working person. He literally makes more money than he can spend in his remaining time. Its greedy af
2020-05-13 17:30
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2 replies
That's literally every single wealthy person.... stop hating on Gaben because it's the cool thing to do... in Poland apparently.
2020-05-13 18:51
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Im not hating WTF maple syrup
2020-05-13 19:41
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+1
2020-05-13 12:10
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#193
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Germany CALM_BAITER
Dude only kids with low iq can plau that shit. And they switch in NA cuz they are tired of being pissed on by EU and looking to hide in some other game
2020-05-13 11:09
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EU isn't interested in that shit game since they know they can have a healthy carreer in the way better CSGO.
2020-05-13 11:16
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#154
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Canada Bucket0
gained respect for dazzle
2020-05-13 09:06
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2 replies
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Switzerland veasih
+1
2020-05-13 13:39
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#285
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United States BGS
He said what a lot of amateurs are feeling. Nice to hear from a pro/semi-pro. And if he does switch it'll show he tried finding another avenue in CS:GO first. Love it.
2020-05-13 23:40
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Europe potatomato
Expected
2020-05-13 02:42
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#57
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Brazil hrp__
MIBR next one
2020-05-13 03:07
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9 replies
mibr not is NA
2020-05-13 05:06
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5 replies
then why do they always play in NA quals? And why are they living in LA?
2020-05-13 11:17
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2 replies
because SA doesn't have a scenario like oceania
2020-05-14 01:39
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1 reply
MiBR just isn't an NA team anymore. Their heritage may lay in SA but they aren't SA at this point.
2020-05-14 10:28
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Why u dumb??? U probably think furia is in Brazil also.
2020-05-13 13:02
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1 reply
I'm not talking about the organization
2020-05-14 01:40
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MIBR good enough to play both Valorant and CS:GO at the same time.
2020-05-13 06:04
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2 replies
MIBR bad enough to be irrelevant in both games lmao
2020-05-13 10:03
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#246
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Switzerland veasih
True LMAO
2020-05-13 13:40
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Well they were signed to riot squad at some point.. so the writing was on the wall that they would switch to valoshit
2020-05-13 06:25
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bad news: Bears disband
2020-05-14 04:54
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Malaysia 1st
bye
2020-05-13 02:35
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5 replies
#113
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Finland Smoonah
holy shit there is a God?
2020-05-13 05:44
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Name checks out
2020-05-13 06:27
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3 replies
He is 2
2020-05-13 11:00
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2 replies
That's the joke
2020-05-13 17:26
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1 reply
Oh.... 😩👌
2020-05-13 17:30
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Peru TheJuan
Sad
2020-05-13 02:35
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3 replies
#105
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Iceland Jaksin
OK
2020-05-13 04:56
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2 replies
#106
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Peru TheJuan
Ok.
2020-05-13 04:57
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1 reply
Ok.
2020-05-13 12:12
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Shame, they had promise.
2020-05-13 02:35
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wow unexpected
2020-05-13 02:35
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1 reply
-1
2020-05-13 21:09
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omegalul
2020-05-13 02:36
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Another NA Tier999 disband Also moving to Valorant is 10 Iq move
2020-05-13 02:37
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I agree moving to valorant is dumb, but this team had promise. they broke hltv top 30, and they even beat some decent teams.
2020-05-13 02:41
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They were half decent most of the time. Not top tier, but no team starts that way. They had promise
2020-05-13 08:23
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They probably earn more at Valorant. How is that dumb
2020-05-13 09:53
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8 replies
i doubt it, just because some got a big offer for a lot of money, i doubt they will get a contract nearly that size considering they dont really have a history in esports
2020-05-13 11:07
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You don't earn shit in VaLULrant until you're signed and with all these washed up "pros" flooding the scene clamoring for teams, the game not even being out of beta yet, no official tournaments being announced yet with only shitty small scale low-paying invitationals being organised by things like 100Thieves there is little reason for teams to even pick you up at this point. Making the switch now is borderline retarded and it's just jumping on an overhyped piece of trash, same as with PUBG back in the day. Way too much hype for such a mediocre game. All these "pros" will face the cold hard reality soon enough that their carreers will be just as dead in that trash game as it was in CS:GO and that they will get paid just as much and what will they do then? desperately jump to another game or go work at Mcdonalds or some shit.
2020-05-13 11:25
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6 replies
They will probably get more views on twitch when they are streaming Valorant. All these people will be the first generation of Pro player that play the game when Riot start applying the LOL system onto Valorant. Agree or not, there will definitely be tournaments for this game and it will work for sure by the looks of it. Riot invested a lot into this game and they will commit everything they can into this. Teams will not pick any player up until the game is F2P. I agree this is a mediocre game but riot game did a great job hyping it up
2020-05-13 11:51
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views on twitch does not equal money, subscribers do. And most of the viewers are just bots tying to get a key, they are not engaging with the stream other than their view in any way. We're still a long way off from Riot starting to announce and host tournaments and even further off from it being franchised. Also a lot of people are complaining it's a snoozefest when you are spectating and I have to agree so when viewership is below expectations when the game has fully released I wonder how hard Riot will keep pushing it and how they will try to entice viewers to actually watch the game. Right now with people overhyping it and players flooding to become "pro" in the game with almost no teams willing to pick players up just means an oversaturated market and that means there is a very high possibility that the players that are making the switch to revive their carreers aren't even getting picked up which means they are stuck in the exact same situation as before, that's why I think it's an incredibly stupid move fully commiting to Valorant at this moment.
2020-05-13 12:11
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3 replies
I don't think switching to Valorant is the best choice either but I can understand their choice. The ultimate reason is they are not that good in CS, so they try to pursue a different career.
2020-05-13 17:09
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2 replies
They were decent enough in CS where they made both EPL and Flashpoint in their respective regions. To throw that away and gamble on an unproven game with literally no scene yet is beyond stupid to me.
2020-05-13 17:15
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#291
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Germany Reape3
Couldnt have said it better myself, thanks for finally speaking the truth. As much as I like brax, I even consider his move to valorant questionable, but at least he had some other reasons behind the decision.
2020-05-14 06:28
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+111111
2020-05-13 18:58
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#219
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Germany Sportzigarette420
Haha all these muricans think they will be the best in Valorant haha noobs
2020-05-13 12:15
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BADARANTES_KILLED_CS
2020-05-13 02:36
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lmao every tier3 NA team going to valorant
2020-05-13 02:36
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lol
2020-05-13 02:37
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#12
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Germany Jermen
MIBR DISBAND NEXT PLEASE
2020-05-13 02:37
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6 replies
#18
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Brazil xxAxx
Please
2020-05-13 02:39
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#29
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Iceland Jaksin
Keep in mind you wouldn't be able to make fun of Brazilians when they lose if they disband
2020-05-13 02:43
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4 replies
+1
2020-05-13 02:45
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#55
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Germany Jermen
It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make
2020-05-13 03:05
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1 reply
+100000
2020-05-13 03:42
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He would just hate on the next big things everyone else hates on, it's how human sheeps work
2020-05-13 10:54
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#13
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Brazil xxAxx
Valorant destroyed the NA CS scene. Good luck to all in the new game
2020-05-13 02:37
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9 replies
manito is crazy because they are a promise team , but i play valorant and is a good game, It has all the ingredients to be just as addictive as csgo, but that is something that will be seen over time.
2020-05-13 06:06
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#133
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France cedd
its because there are no t3 na orgs like there are t3 eu orgs, all these players arent getting paid and want a paycheck
2020-05-13 06:50
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7 replies
That's a thing.
2020-05-13 09:10
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Maybe git gud and then you can get payed. Its not like theyre entitled to one
2020-05-13 10:22
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5 replies
#203
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United States hoobit
How would they pay the bills then?
2020-05-13 11:30
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4 replies
maybe idk uh go to school? get a fucking job instead of hoping you can make it in the esports scene.
2020-05-13 11:51
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2 replies
#275
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United States Libtard
Or they could just switch to Valorant? Stay mad sweaty CS fanboy
2020-05-13 18:35
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1 reply
They could. im not saying what theyre doing is wrong. All i stated was that they werent good enough for a paycheck in csgo.
2020-05-13 18:50
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#251
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United Kingdom jimak
Why should they be entitled to pay the bills from csgo? You do realize you need to be good at a game to earn a full time wage.. If you can't make the cut you do what everyone else does and work a normal job. The fact of the matter most people at their level are only paid part time wages and earn more with a little side job. That's all they deserve.
2020-05-13 14:12
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#15
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United States festivve
this is depressing. tier 2 NA just doesn’t exist anymore. you’re either tier 1 or totally irrelevant
2020-05-13 02:38
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#21
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Sweden zae
are you saying Chaos is tier 1? xd
2020-05-13 02:40
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#97
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United States festivve
chaos and triumph are the only exceptions. but that’s literally only 2 teams. europe and cis have so many more compres to their tier 1. tier 2 teams should outnumber tier 1 teams in a region
2020-05-13 04:05
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I really don't get how na cannot build a solid t2 structure. U have the players, u have the economy
2020-05-13 06:22
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Maybe no orgs want to sign players and then players say fuck it and go to valorant even tho game is still in beta
2020-05-13 11:03
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Estonia RopzTop1
It's because not enough orgs picked up NA teams mainly. Can't make a living, can't get recognized, might as well switch to more opportunity. It's really depressing, I was hoping the eUnited/Lazarus/Ghost projects would work out but it seems like the teams just peak for a few weeks then collapse.
2020-05-13 02:41
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Also there’s no infrastructure in NA like there is in EU. Every week there’s a new skins cup for T2-3 EU teams that attracts thousands of viewers. This makes it easier for orgs to operate and pick up teams. NA has like MDL and Mythic cup. Ultimately it seems like there’s just no viewership in NA like there is in EU. NA orgs can’t survive outside of EPL/FP. There’s no incentive otherwise.
2020-05-13 03:33
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Estonia RopzTop1
True - I rarely see anyone even talk about Mythic Cup. And it is sometimes months between matches for teams like Bad News Bears. It's too bad.
2020-05-13 05:02
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1 reply
+1 good reply
2020-05-14 05:26
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Indonesia draizze
And the problem with lower tier NA Orgs is there's minimal tournament in NA. This month in EU there's Blast Rising, Home Sweet Home and several gambling website sponsored tournament while in NA there's only MDL. Hard for lower tier Orgs to grow, there's only few spot for RtR, Dreamhack which mostly already occupied by more established Orgs. Not qualify for that means no income at all since there's no alternative lower tier tournament. CS GO just don't attract enough sponsorship in NA.
2020-05-13 03:36
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#94
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United States festivve
+1
2020-05-13 04:03
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#108
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Estonia RopzTop1
+1
2020-05-13 05:01
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tier 2? tier 5 at max
2020-05-13 03:33
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#96
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United States festivve
tier 2 in NA
2020-05-13 04:03
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1 reply
t2 in na=t5 eu
2020-05-13 05:01
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India kholwal
Hell yeah !!
2020-05-13 02:39
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#17
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Serbia DjapeZ
Ofc NA bots which have zero skill, are going to play bot friendly game called Valorant. Respect for Dazzle for his tweet.
2020-05-13 02:39
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#19
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Brunei Not_StriK
Seems like valorant killed t2 NA scene, sad days for NA cs i guess
2020-05-13 02:39
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#111
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Serbia el1teman
well t2 NA scene is tier 1 in valorant, so guess why they switched :)
2020-05-13 05:19
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I don't understand, why is it so bad for players to switch over to Valorant. I see no issue with this yet people are flooding the forums with "wont be missed", "bad anyways", etc. Also, people act like Valorant is going to flop, yet riot games is the most competent game developers in the industry when it comes to esports. Look at league, probably the most successful esport in the industry. Honestly just seems like a bunch of 15 year old's who don't understand you need a paycheck to live.
2020-05-13 08:54
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#20
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Estonia RopzTop1
im crying everything hurts :(((( but gl to the NA boys in valorant
2020-05-13 02:40
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so expected from na
2020-05-13 02:41
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#26
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
Another NA roster lost to the superior game.
2020-05-13 02:42
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now somebody please replace ryann in Envy
2020-05-13 02:43
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Mibr next, valorant to explode in tier 3 Brazil
2020-05-13 02:44
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#32
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United States EmperorTrump
> dapr announced his intention to move to VALORANT CSGO is dead in NA
2020-05-13 02:46
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ryann to valorant please :(
2020-05-13 02:47
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All these teams imgur.com/a/KCJY7DK are next to disband xd
2020-05-13 02:48
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xd
2020-05-13 03:54
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name checks out
2020-05-13 11:42
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NACS lul
2020-05-13 02:50
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all NA scene disbanding lol
2020-05-13 02:50
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Very sad news however what's more sad is that mibr still has not disband
2020-05-13 02:52
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Asia en1lykS
Feel sad for dazzle.. F. :(
2020-05-13 02:52
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VALORANT will create space in the NA scene for young talents if this keeps up. All washed up pros going for the new game.
2020-05-13 02:55
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#42
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United States EmperorTrump
No reason for young players to even pursue CSGO careers when they can just compete in the fresh VALORANT scene with bigger money and developer support.
2020-05-13 02:59
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3 replies
Assuming it will be this way
2020-05-13 02:59
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#45
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United States EmperorTrump
Look at Leaf and TenZ.
2020-05-13 02:59
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So far the hype is leaning that way. Still lets see if it sticks.
2020-05-13 03:00
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#56
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Brazil |witcher|
Valve should invest in lower tiers to give visibility for young talents and their orgs.
2020-05-13 03:06
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#41
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Italy NotNew
"Even if the chances to make money are better in Valorant, i'm not going to switch as of right now. I'll continue grinding the game i love" Yeah like freak See you on valorant in a couple of weeks bro
2020-05-13 02:57
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2 replies
2020-05-13 10:27
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1 reply
Lmao
2020-05-13 12:15
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na cs players.... lmao Theres a reason u dont see too many eu players going to valorant hahahah
2020-05-13 02:59
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#48
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Canada Nohte - HLTV.org
Because there are more orgs willing to sign European teams, and betting regulations allow for more sponsors in Europe. Not to mention changes to the Pro League qualification process, and many other factors that leave non-tier 1 NA CS players with few options.
2020-05-13 03:01
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#52
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United States EmperorTrump
Do you realize how fucked the scene when all major sponsors are betting and gambling companies?
2020-05-13 03:05
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2 replies
mad lions isn't. In fact, they have no direct sponsors. I could only find 1, a water bottle company
2020-05-13 03:44
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#98
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United States EmperorTrump
Backed by dumb investors who got tricked by marketing team (look at VPs and officers) overactivemedia.com Will collapse as soon as they steal/burn all invested capital.
2020-05-13 04:15
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So..... Banking on a new, unproven game with the HOPE of an LCS type of infrastructure is a smart idea too right? Idk, maybe these top players have knowledge that I don't. Pro League quals was fucked though, ngl. The reason I'd imagine EU players get more opportunities goes further than just betting sponsors and it boils down to 1 word: consistency. Case & point: MAD Lions.
2020-05-13 03:25
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Also wanted to mention u can easily compare and contrast the godsent roster and the orgless roster. Both were given a very similar hand, I'd even argue the godsent roster was dealt a harder hand. (obviously before they were picked up)
2020-05-13 03:42
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What? I disagree, they cycled through a lot of different forms of the team. Before godsent they were signed by smash, also they took part in a lot of eu based smaller events to earn cash to live on. Events like these do not exist in NA. Someone said it in a post earlier but valve really should invest in smaller events if they want to pursue talent in NA.
2020-05-13 08:59
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In this last hltv confirmed, pronax said smash wasnt paying the guys, which is why they was able to get them on a ez transfer. The reason i make the comparison is because they went a while without getting paid- even had to make roster changes back when frozen got picked up by mouz (ppl forget about that) Orgless may not have ben able to enter smaller tourneys, but they had the liberty of some payment because if you don't know, flashpoint themselves sponsored the guys by paying them (confirmed by thorin) a little bit of money on top of whatever they earned from winning. I will say though, it sucks they couldn't stay in the league. FPX should've signed them if u ask me, but thats just my bias for wanting to see what they couldve became in the 2nd season The point i was making was that the godsent guys went a while without getting paid, had to climb the much harder eu ladder of rankings, and in that time, developed consistency. Orgless on the other hand had many of the same parallels, but couldn't develop the consistency needed to be a good enough team to sponsor. Instead, they cry about "they have coaches :(" and "they have more resources, its unfair :(". U can't use that card when one day u can beat DIG, but can then lose to like, triumph or something. In another HLTV confirmed, daps explained there are a lot of orgs who want to get into csgo. But.... they don't want to waste their time with rosters who aren't that good. BNB and Orgless both have had prime opportunities to prove themselves worthy over the past few months, but of course, they lost because NA CS fucking sucks and nobody wants to pay inconsistent players.
2020-05-13 11:16
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Honestly, on the side of the whole orgless vs godsent, its really hard for either of us to comment on considering we have no information on how well off the players were financially prior to getting contracts. Now, talking about NA CS I have to say it's Valves fault. Look at league, Na LCS is no where near as good as EU LCS or the Asian scene. Yet it still attracts huge orgs. You seem very reasonable and I think you can agree that Valve has made one bad mistake after another with csgo's competitive scene. Whether it's banning IBP for life (I say this because in the grand scheme of this these players had and still have large fan bases), or just straight up ignoring CS for years in favor of dota2. I think Valorant will be the biggest wake up call to Valves esports. Also, IMO dota2 lost years ago to league in terms of esports, professionalism, etc. There's so many factors in terms of NA CS I could write a whole article. But the biggest one has to be the absence of Valve.
2020-05-13 13:53
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#46
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kioShiMa | 
Sweden changrai
Damn respect dazzle
2020-05-13 03:00
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gl to ptr, best guy in NA
2020-05-13 03:03
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RIP NA scene even leaf like wtf Hopefully we dont lose Triumph either...
2020-05-13 03:03
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Honestly, if I were to make a decision, I just want to play Valorant for fun (even though I don't have it), instead of worrying about being a pro player on a "beta" game, in order to make a living. I mean, CS still has a place in my heart.
2020-05-13 03:04
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#53
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Indonesia Journeast
Their time has come, sooner or later must be Liquid.
2020-05-13 03:05
0
Damn dapr had so much talent too. Valorant been tearing the scene apart
2020-05-13 03:05
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#58
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Aleksib | 
Ukraine ReanuKeeves
Bad news
2020-05-13 03:10
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#59
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Europe t.o.p
trash team anyway
2020-05-13 03:11
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#60
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Iran VenoxeR
Respect for dazzle
2020-05-13 03:12
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3 replies
One week later, dazzle retire for Valorant.
2020-05-13 03:32
0
2 replies
Would be the first one to say he wont go to valulrant and then do it a few days later anyway
2020-05-13 10:30
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1 reply
#284
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Iran VenoxeR
Sad but true :(
2020-05-13 23:38
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#61
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Brazil Thovisk
MIBR next pls
2020-05-13 03:20
0
#62
N1K3RR | 
Finland sAA_
na scene in a nutshell
2020-05-13 03:22
0
MIBR NEXT PLS
2020-05-13 03:23
0
#64
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HenryG | 
Finland no_man
thank you riot for taking out the trash
2020-05-13 03:23
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#65
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Australia TeBo
the amount of NA pros who have switched to Valorant is insane heres a list: Infinite Dapr Crashies Swag WARDELL Freakazoid Zellsis Food Subroza Tenz Leaf SicK ShahZam Reltuc Relyks
2020-05-13 03:28
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6 replies
t2/t3 NA is dead the best NA teams are now forced to go internacional if they need to make changes sad times for NA
2020-05-13 03:29
0
I do appreciate the fact that every single one appart from shazam on that list haven't played in a t1 event in years or are youngsters who totally wasted their one shot at fame.
2020-05-13 08:59
0
An actual clown list Thrower, toxic cosplayer, a bully, an actual cheater and list goes on Wtf NA?!
2020-05-13 09:50
0
2 replies
you are the clown, bud
2020-05-13 10:13
0
1 reply
Nt clown9 You are the biggest clown here
2020-05-13 10:21
0
A list of rejects, cheaters and paycheck-stealing losers. Won't be missed in CS except for their toxic fellows
2020-05-13 13:37
0
#66
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Greece 1926
if they keep disbanding soon enough we gonna see mythic seriously competing for a spot at the major...
2020-05-13 03:24
0
2 replies
imagine... mythic STICKERS
2020-05-13 03:29
0
Hope fl0m and his fellow washed up bots move to Valorant too
2020-05-13 13:35
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#68
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States loomeh
I support CS, but I can't blame these players who are leaving. If they aren't able to make enough money to live on playing CS then who can blame them? being stuck at the MDL level doesn't benefit the players enough financially to continue in the game. Let them do what they want, no reason to knock the hussle.
2020-05-13 03:27
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#71
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Australia TeBo
i guess a likely new roster for NA could be Cooper Marke FNS ANDROID Yay since those are the only decent NA pros left who arent apart of Liquid, EG, Gen.G, Cloud, Envy or Triumph
2020-05-13 03:30
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3 replies
#76
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Malaysia Suno[t]
fns is definitely leaving together with android and yay haha
2020-05-13 03:33
0
FeelsBadMan for fns may not be the best igl out there but the guy is highly dedicated to the game
2020-05-13 03:34
0
1 reply
And to ruining teams
2020-05-13 13:34
0
Next FaZe and MiBR
2020-05-13 03:30
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#77
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Malaysia Suno[t]
my boi dazzle <3
2020-05-13 03:34
0
Bruh wtf is wrong with the NA teams???????? Literally ranked #33 and players switch to Trashorant...?
2020-05-13 03:38
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2 replies
#260
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Finland skaril
no money I guess
2020-05-13 16:15
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1 reply
Well yeah, thats what... i believe dazzLe said, or someone. But still, they gotta keep grinding. And i heard that some of these pros that switch over have recieved offers from small orgs with a meh/ok salary yet they said no because they think or expect that they will get 10k a month or something.
2020-05-13 18:05
0
death, taxes, and tier 3 NA teams quitting cs for valorant
2020-05-13 03:40
0
TO VALORANT?
2020-05-13 03:42
0
#87
tarik | 
Canada ZHF
:( sad
2020-05-13 03:47
0
another one bites the dust
2020-05-13 03:47
0
valorant isnt even out of beta yet, i would laugh my ass off if all those greedy wanna be pros left csgo for no reason in the end
2020-05-13 03:51
0
2 replies
#261
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Finland skaril
they will come back crawling once teenagers who have grinded the game 16 hours a day perfecting the new mechanics will surpass them like what happened in fortnite and overwatch
2020-05-13 16:23
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1 reply
#283
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States gregfromjersey
This is facts, anyone trying to go pro and hold down a real job after their teenage/college years is competing against the next generation that has unlimited time, unlimited resources, and parental support. Poor kids don't become eSports pros except Sumail in Dota2.
2020-05-13 21:21
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#91
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Europe Vallon3
I liked their name. :( Valorant destroying CS scene slowly. Hopefully Volvo finally do something new to the game.
2020-05-13 03:57
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#92
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Fifflaren | 
Brazil matheuscoelho
NA CS is dead
2020-05-13 04:00
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#93
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Germany liddarn
how embarrassing na.
2020-05-13 04:01
0
Can't wait to see all this mid-low tier CS:GO players switching to Valorant, fail miserably against Chinese Crossfire players and Koreans jumping the Overwatch boat.
2020-05-13 04:03
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3 replies
#99
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United States Phamous3k
Tbh... The clash of all these players from different regions and games clashing on Valorant got me interested as fuck... I think South Korea will be top region in a few years.
2020-05-13 04:17
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1 reply
#103
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States EmperorTrump
Those fuckers played GunZ, S4, Crossfire, and GITS religiously for decades. The western scene can't compete.
2020-05-13 04:35
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I can see them winning against these two. The gun play is similar to what we have in cs and abilities will be nerfed sooner or later for some classes. You probably won't be able to rely on them too much. Since the only thing that na has is (actual good aimers) They have a chance to compete or even destroying asian scene. But for now fuk badlorant because every time i play i'm forced to play on turkish servers wich is as bad as ruskies in csgo (they even don't bother to say a single word in english)
2020-05-13 10:04
0
valorant top kek
2020-05-13 04:20
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#101
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada rayrayrayray
Respect to dazzle
2020-05-13 04:25
0
NA tier 3 scene is imploding
2020-05-13 04:25
0
2 replies
+1
2020-05-13 05:45
0
+1
2020-05-13 05:46
0
#104
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Brazil ferNaN1
MIBR NEXT
2020-05-13 04:38
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#112
Faceit level 5  | 
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Brazil inv1se
MIBR NEXT 100%
2020-05-13 05:36
0
very sad
2020-05-13 05:45
0
Why is Leaf being replaced. Wasn't he just signed?
2020-05-13 06:06
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1 reply
#168
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Mongolia Kkura
he left on his own
2020-05-13 10:19
0
valulrant
2020-05-13 06:08
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#122
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz
NA the easiest place to make shitload of money just by being mediocre. None of them will make it in Valorant.
2020-05-13 06:08
0
get rekt in valor ant
2020-05-13 06:21
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#126
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Valorant incoming
2020-05-13 06:24
0
bro imagine guys screaming because they killed someone with a bubble on lan. That will be the worst decision for those NA players
2020-05-13 06:26
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1 reply
Yeah, being killed by paint explosions, remote control cars, soap bubbles and so on shouldn't be so glorious in a LAN hehe
2020-05-13 13:33
0
Waiting MIBR kek
2020-05-13 06:48
0
next on HLTV news: "BNB roster moves to tactical shooter Valorant"
2020-05-13 06:54
0
dapr had alot of potential and now this son of a bitch went over to valorant where he will keep being orgless
2020-05-13 06:55
0
Expected from csgo-killer
2020-05-13 07:00
0
NA CS move to NA VALORANT
2020-05-13 07:01
0
SO WHAT obaut those spot in dreamhacks masters?
2020-05-13 07:22
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#139
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Norway zcr1pt
Never heard of them
2020-05-13 07:39
0
EG fix -tarik +dapr SO EZ
2020-05-13 07:41
0
Unfortunate name...
2020-05-13 07:43
0
Tier 3 CHECK Na CHECK Washed up CHECK Valotrash timeeeee🗑🗑🗑
2020-05-13 07:59
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3 replies
#147
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Finland OldStager
KEKW
2020-05-13 08:34
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#149
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland dreamShow
LOL
2020-05-13 08:40
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#216
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bulgaria AboveYall
xDD
2020-05-13 12:11
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NA Teams; If no one sign them for a month. They disband , They dont add new players, dont trial new players.dont know It's USA is rich country ,So They can play without a organization
2020-05-13 08:29
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1 reply
They want it the easy way, as if orgs were obligated to sign paycheck-stealing dirty ass players
2020-05-13 13:31
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NA cs dead
2020-05-13 08:40
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#155
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Finland SamulisS
ENVY to dreamhack ?
2020-05-13 09:08
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1 reply
#178
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Poland Po_Prostu
i think they should get it
2020-05-13 10:42
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The NA scene.... Create team, play for a couple of weeks, complain that no orgs want to sign them while they still haven't proven themselves to be worth signing, disband or make roster changes. Perhaps if they invested som time and effort into actually becoming a somewhat stable team they'd stand a chance.
2020-05-13 09:13
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1 reply
They only care about paycheck stealing. No orgs considering paying your shit level CS? Alright Ima disband lol xD
2020-05-13 13:19
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#158
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Germany Kit_su
Bad news
2020-05-13 09:20
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All of the players who left so far were shit/ washed up/ banned, what a weird coincidence 🤔
2020-05-13 09:21
0
1 reply
Yeah, only shit players saying that CS has become tedious and stale, what a coincidence 🤔👀
2020-05-13 13:18
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#160
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
The truth is that T2/T3 scene in NA is really weak partly due to lack of tournaments and money in ecosystem. Which is weird, because NA is quite rich continent regarding e-sports. But the other part is that lot of teams are generally very weak overall (no chance to ever achieve something like T1, poor discipline, core of team never sticks together for more than 3 months, etc.) and want org within few weeks, despite completely unproven. Valorant seems like solution, but it won't be. Ye, i can imagine some guys will succeed there for a while, because they started soon, but in 1-2 years there will be plenty better players and they will be forced to quit (or go to even shittier game). And all that said is assuming that valorant will be super successful in long run(!), which is not clear at all to be honest.
2020-05-13 09:28
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#161
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China hdgamerrr
valorant destroying cs
2020-05-13 09:42
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1 reply
#177
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Finland Qurko
destroying NA's tier99 scene*
2020-05-13 10:39
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#162
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Germany noirGG
that's some bad news
2020-05-13 09:42
0
lol, all NA teams disbanding. Soon there will be no one in NA scene.
2020-05-13 10:21
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1 reply
#190
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Guatemala Nicaraqua
its a good thing, less NA teams more EU invites = Better Major!
2020-05-13 11:08
0
Less NA team, less major winning chances for NA :DD
2020-05-13 10:27
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1 reply
Not stonks
2020-05-13 13:29
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Wtf ptr is 29
2020-05-13 10:36
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#176
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Switzerland yousanchi
Valorant is so shit omg why anyone is playing this trash
2020-05-13 10:37
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1 reply
it doesnt matter if the salary is good enough
2020-05-13 11:04
0
still was better than mibr
2020-05-13 10:50
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#189
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Guatemala Nicaraqua
lmao whole NA scene to valorant , they werent relevant anyway
2020-05-13 11:08
0
Bad news for bad news bears i guess.
2020-05-13 11:13
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#202
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Germany Naviever
so sad to see CSGO is dying step by step
2020-05-13 11:26
0
finally
2020-05-13 11:31
0
respect for dazzle
2020-05-13 11:34
0
whatever...
2020-05-13 11:48
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#211
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Canada svag0209
assholes, go fuck yourself. WHo cares you noob shits except dazzle. dazzel you earned respect man as of now.
2020-05-13 11:54
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No honour or loyalty in NA CS. Backstabbers and turncoats only
2020-05-13 12:09
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1 reply
And dirty opportunists
2020-05-13 13:17
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ptr or dapr to envy?
2020-05-13 12:15
0
I hope they can BEAR this BAD NEWS
2020-05-13 12:23
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#222
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
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Europe Asviix
wtf That was a pretty decent team
2020-05-13 12:24
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dapr to Envy to replace ryan.
2020-05-13 12:26
0
ptr s2
2020-05-13 12:39
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#227
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
SpawN | 
Spain LoLaZo
I missread Fnatic disband xDDD
2020-05-13 12:42
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#228
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Finland TilestoNe
At this rate only EG, C9 and Liquid are the only teams left.
2020-05-13 12:51
0
Sad news they were doing great. Another valorant lineup?
2020-05-13 12:55
0
Very bad news :(
2020-05-13 13:02
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#231
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Bulgaria gorchiza
Sad to see the best team logo disband with the best name :( gonna miss them.
2020-05-13 13:02
0
Bad sign for CS:GO when #33 teams disband for Valorant.
2020-05-13 13:05
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Irrelevant washed up bot team disband as most of its players switch over to Valorant in order to steal some paychecks from unaware orgs
2020-05-13 13:16
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1 reply
#247
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Finland Qurko
+1
2020-05-13 13:41
0
Dazzle a man of honor to not follow the pukeorant bandwagon
2020-05-13 13:54
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#250
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland SebL
Was playing really bad anyway.
2020-05-13 14:00
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Can somebody explain, why is it that we only see a bunch of NA players switching to Valorant, but not really any EU ones?
2020-05-13 14:11
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4 replies
cause in EU u got more stable situation with orgs/salaries i guess swole patrol and BNB were looking for an org for so long and didnt get any so i guess $$$ is the reason
2020-05-13 14:25
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3 replies
#254
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Spain Silber_
In EU even advanced teams have an org, In Na it's much harder to get a good org, even teams that are in pro league were orgless
2020-05-13 15:08
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#259
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States EmperorTrump
Every single EU team is sponsored by betting / gambling websites and companies. In the US this business is banned (very strictly regulated). Traditional sponsors avoid CSGO because of its theme (terrorism, bombs, killing cops). So there is almost no money in NA scene for teams outside of top 5.
2020-05-13 16:10
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"Traditional sponsors avoid CSGO because of its theme (terrorism, bombs, killing cops)" damn, i didnt really think about it like that
2020-05-13 16:33
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the bearer of bad news
2020-05-13 15:20
0
who?
2020-05-13 15:27
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#257
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Peru Abelzini
This was bad news for them.
2020-05-13 15:38
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#258
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United States D0xx
Sad to see my favorite team go, but I'm very excited for Jonji on Chaos and I think Dapr has a chance to go to a good org
2020-05-13 15:39
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1 reply
Dapr went to valorant. Wanted him to get a shot with a bigger org for two years now.
2020-05-13 17:34
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Rip CS GO
2020-05-13 16:53
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rip
2020-05-13 16:53
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RIP NA welcome south america
2020-05-13 17:15
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I mean if I got offered a new position that payed better I think I'd take it
2020-05-13 17:44
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3 replies
Well, they didn't, actually
2020-05-13 20:01
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2 replies
I mean valorant probs gonna pay well or everyone wouldn't flock there
2020-05-14 03:14
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1 reply
#292
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Germany Reape3
Its a gamble, maybe it'll work out, maybe Valorant esports isn't going to be a thing for another 6-9 months and no org is gonna pick them up, that is if they're even good enough at the game to be picked up. I can understand the move but I find it extremely risky, you throw away an actual career for a chance to earn alot of money, but an even bigger chance to fail completely and be done with it.
2020-05-14 06:39
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RIP NA losing everything to Valorant
2020-05-13 19:08
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#293
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Austria doMK0
Really don't see what the fuss is all about and why so many players are changing to this game. Got my valorant key yesterday, they must be giving it out to almost everyone nowaday, because i only had a stream running for 2 hours in the background while working, played for a few hours... as someone who played CS since 1999, valorant doesn't speak to me. Something is just off -- the fantasy setting doesnt help either, some things are just not intuitive. I don't know. Played CS Beta 5.2 later that evening with some friends -- now thats a good game ;)
2020-05-14 08:34
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#295
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Germany Enlay
NA is dying
2020-05-15 04:23
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