ptr: "Now, all the up-and-comers that had a name but never really had the chance are going to be able to shine"

The Bad News Bears captain discusses his time off from CS:GO, reuniting with Jonathan "⁠Jonji⁠" Carey, and what he hopes to accomplish with his new lineup.

Peter "⁠ptr⁠" Gurney was out of action for several months after his Bad News Bears lineup disbanded in May 2020, with a majority of the former roster members now plying their trade in VALORANT.

When Jonji was met with a similar situation at the start of 2021 as ex-Chaos went their separate ways, the 30-year-old AWPer and the Canadian entry fragger reunited, and looked to build a roster to compete in ESEA Premier Season 36. Bad News Bears are currently leading their group with a perfect 3-0 record and also won back-to-back ESEA Cash Cups.

ptr chatted about the formation of his new roster and how he spent his time off, referencing it as a much-needed break after almost 16 years of grinding Counter-Strike. He also touched on his hopes for the new generation of North American players, the ones left following the departure of many to VALORANT, and how he hopes to help them build the fundamentals necessary to compete at a top level.

You were inactive for a while after Bad News Bears disbanded. What were you up to during that time off, and what prompted your return to CS:GO?

I took about six months off. I started playing VALORANT actually, I was playing with Mendo if you've ever heard of him. We started playing VALORANT together, we had a project going for about two or three months, but it just never worked out. Also during that time I was playing a lot of poker, grinding a lot of poker, MTTs [multi-table tournaments]. Honestly, I was just relaxing.

I saw that the North American scene really needed some help, and it's not necessarily that I'm coming back just to help, you know, I want to win, but just in general to get my feet back in, see what I can do, help the young players and have fun again, play the game I love.

Given that you were playing VALORANT for a bit, a swap was clearly a consideration for you, but did you choose not to stay in the game just because you couldn't find an organisation, or did it not appeal to you as much as CS?

I think a little of both. If we had found an organisation that paid well or just enough so that I could play it without going to get a real job, I guess you could say, I would have played it. But at the same time, it didn't do it for me like CS does, CS is just, you know... a very specific game that we've all played and loved for years and years.

With you returning, you've also reunited with Jonji here on Bad News Bears. Is there something specific about him that made you want to return to this lineup? What does he bring to the roster?

Well, like you said, we were teammates for about a year. He just has a great personality, I love playing with him, he's selfless, he just wants to win. He'll do whatever is needed, he doesn't complain, and I like that. He's also just a good person outside the game, we've hung out a lot, we lived together for a little while, and when I found out that his team had died and that he wanted to continue to play, I was like, 'Let's do it, let's make a roster,' and we formed this five.

Talking about the five you've formed here, what led to creating this specific lineup?

The first player that we had in mind was Swisher. I knew he was playing for Yeah, he had always been an up-and-comer, but he got a lot of experience from Yeah in the last six months or so. So I knew that he was definitely going to be a piece that I would need in order to grow in Premier and have a stable roster, as us three.

Then Gabe, Spongey, was named and I knew he used to play on Triumph, he was a really solid anchor, really solid player for them, so I definitely thought we should give him a go. The wildcard that we have is alter. I had thought about him originally, and then Swisher messaged me and said, 'Hey, what about alter?' We just messaged him and he said he could play, and it all came together. Pretty lucky, to be honest.

What's that experience been like so far, playing with this roster?

Actually, and I'm not lying at all, it's been some of the most fun I've ever had. We just laugh all the time, we have a good time, we're always talking to each other, communication is really good. In the past, I've played on teams that just completely destroy someone mentally and you can just never recover when you lose big rounds, but this team so far... I mean, I felt like it would be the honeymoon period, but we're sort of getting past that and staying the same way, so it's a nice thing to see.

Recently you lost mCe to Gen.G in VALORANT and brought in madcow as his replacement. Obviously for mCe it was an offer he couldn’t turn down, but can you tell me a bit about the short time you had working with him?

I've got to work with Matt for a week or so, week and a half. He let us know quite early that he had to keep his options open, for obvious reasons, financial reasons, so it was no problem with us. For the most part, it was great, everything he said really applied to our game and really helped certain players. It was sad to see him go, but we've picked up Nate (madcow) and we're happy with him so far, we're just going to see how it goes from here.

madcow was on the sidelines for a bit. What has he helped with so far?

He brings a stable, calm voice. He says things that are forgettable in the moment, like little things, fundamental things. Just stuff like if someone is not communicating enough, and important things in crucial moments. Nothing in detail so far, but it's the small stuff that really helps our game.

Earlier you touched on you coming back to the game and some the issues that North America has been experiencing. You're a pretty well-tenured player who's been around for a while. What are some of the issues that you see around, aside from the clear lack of organisations looking to pick up teams right now?

Obviously COVID is the biggest reason why everything is going downhill. Organisations aren't making money and it's understandable that they're not going to stay in a game where they're not making any return. I would say that's about 75% of it, about 10% goes to half the pros leaving for VALORANT, for obvious financial reasons. I would just say that now, you're going to see all the up-and-comers that had a name, the ones that were coming up but never really had the chance, now they're going to be able to shine.

So I sort of want to come back now to be able to instil fundamentals, discipline, just how to play the game at a higher level rather than just run around, shoot, and play for stats, right? It's so much more than that, and I feel like I can bring a better mindset to the North American scene, just in general.

You've played in a couple of the Cash Cups here, and there have been a couple of changes in format both to it and to ESEA Premier recently. What're your thoughts on those changes in general?

I like the format in Premier, I think they kept the groups pretty balanced, somewhat. In the playoffs I think it will work out nicely. I like the idea of the Cash Cups, it enables people who don't have a job to be able to make some revenue. And I also like the fact that, for instance, we've won two in a row, so we can't play the next one now, we have to sit this one out, and I respect that because it incentivizes other players to grind, try to win, and be the best they can be.

In recent years you've played on more up-and-coming rosters, like the old Bad News Bears and Riot Squad. Before that though, you played on a number of top teams in NA. Do you think you can return to playing at that level, or are you more focused on helping younger players develop now?

I haven't really thought about it. If it happens, it happens. Obviously, I'm going to continue to grind and play, but for the most part, I'm just going to help and see where it goes from here. Of course, I would love to play at the top again, I definitely think I still have it. For not playing for six months, I'm playing pretty well - obviously, I'm making mistakes here and there, but aim-wise and movement-wise, I feel pretty solid, so I just need to stay in shape.

The biggest part about my downfall, my professional career, is that I never really took time for myself. I never really took any time off. I think these six months really helped me mentally because, in the 16 years that I had played the game, I had never taken any time off. I'd take two or three days off, whatever, but never real time off, and I think that's so important for players. For example, like when I was on compLexity, we would wake up at 9 or 10 AM, be at the office at 10:30 or 11, and play until about 8 or 9 at night, and that's just the team stuff. Then I would go home and play FPL for four or five hours, so I'm playing 12 to 14 hours a day of Counter-Strike, every single day for four or five years.

It really just takes a toll on you, and you just start going through the motions. I think that's what happened to me, I fell out of love with the game. For the most part, I'm just coming back to try to help anybody and everybody I can.

You say that you fell out of love with the game. Would you say that's something you have back now after that break? How focused and motivated are you now, compared to previous years, and what's your main objective now that you're back?

Obviously I want to make a name for myself again, I want to be at the top level of North America for sure and hopefully further. It's a little of both, help out the players and still be the best I can be.

Canada Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
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Peter 'ptr' Gurney
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who cares
2021-02-15 00:06
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I do. Thanks for the interview HLTV! These teams are a source of the next biggest CS stars!
2021-02-15 00:07
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NA SO SHIT KEKW
2021-02-15 00:10
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+1 na died
2021-02-15 00:12
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#53
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United States Phamous3k
We can hope damn it!!!
2021-02-15 01:09
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3 replies
actually they are irrelevent and should just go play Valorant no one cars.
2021-02-15 06:18
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I car
2021-02-15 07:40
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KEKW there's still a chance
2021-02-15 19:30
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NA_1_major_S1mple_0
2021-02-15 12:31
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>next biggest CS starts LULW BWAHAHAHAHAHA 💦
2021-02-15 00:12
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24 replies
better than baitz
2021-02-15 00:14
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22 replies
who's baitz? imgur.com/a/ucRBqlW
2021-02-15 00:15
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#68
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Sweden Nappev
Everything checks out xD
2021-02-15 02:01
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Imagine not even having 1 team from whole country that's relevant in tier 1
2021-02-15 07:41
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#94
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Greece hekzy
Dude they have a population of 2 million. You muricans are deluded.
2021-02-15 09:10
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So what's Estonia known for?
2021-02-15 10:17
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Yo le noob, aybe being the "European Silicon Valley"?? But everything checks out, third world didn't have access to education.
2021-02-17 18:13
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"3rd world" making the video game whose forum you're on, the cpu chip you have inside and the gpu you play :yawn:
2021-02-17 18:31
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Nice generalization of a population of 380M folks. EU education ig
2021-02-15 10:17
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what's even the link with generalization? did you even read or understand the comment? He's just pointing out the fact you're boasting about having a team in tier 1, when you're comparing two completely different populations They are 2 millions and have very decent players, when you and your 380 millions people barely have a scene
2021-02-15 10:44
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I think you missed the part where he said "dude you Americans are deluaional". Oh no wait you did read it but you are nitpicking only my side. I even asked him what's Estonia good at then?
2021-02-15 11:24
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#124
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Greece hekzy
Yeah, I meant specifically YOUR type of Americans. It's also safe to say that you are the most deluded country in the west as you are also the most illiterate.
2021-02-16 23:05
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Imagine being more "literate" yet being worse in financial, military, education wise too haha USA 1 Harvard, MIT greece 0
2021-02-17 05:26
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#129
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Greece hekzy
Because you exploit third world countries for oil and your economy is solely dependent on constant war? Stfu am*rican
2021-02-17 12:10
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wtf? he said your comment was delusional so what? Doesn't contradict my point do you actually read comments instead of calling nitpicking, poor snowflake? You absolutely didn't get my point, feels like I am the english speaker here
2021-02-17 13:05
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"You muricans are deluded." He said this. He generalized all Americans. read then comment
2021-02-17 13:05
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how do hltvers get in their heads that a place with 2 top10 teams "barely has a scene" lmao
2021-02-17 06:43
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Do you realise your 2 teams compete in Europe now? That your scene is dead, switching to Valorant because no org wants to invest? No NA EPL anymore but ESEA cash prizes?
2021-02-17 13:05
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Do you realize this is temporary? And we still have 2 teams in the top 10
2021-02-17 13:06
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see, that is delusional "temporary" lmao, ok maybe you have a crystal ball
2021-02-17 13:08
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What is? Liquid, EG are top teams. And even if they are not top 10, Greece can't say "barely have a scene" when literally it's France, Sweden, Denmark and Germany basically having a better scene than us
2021-02-17 13:09
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from the start, that dude was talking about the Estonian scene hltv.org/news/31163/ptr-now-all-the-up-a.. idk it's not rocket science, this is your native language Just read ffs
2021-02-17 13:15
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I like how you just keep forgetting the 2nd line he said."you Americans are deluded" EU education perhaps
2021-02-17 13:22
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every player starts from a smaller team, rarely fpl, ofc its the start of the next biggest cs stars? where do u think zywoo came from? elige?
2021-02-15 00:42
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+1
2021-02-17 05:42
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#7
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United States sen0r_vac
I car
2021-02-15 00:08
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I do.
2021-02-15 00:09
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mr I_car cars
2021-02-15 00:17
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I car)
2021-02-16 06:20
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NA will be back soon!
2021-02-15 00:07
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#4
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Sweden AFCHannes
NA OMEGALUL
2021-02-15 00:07
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#6
Faceit level 10  | 
ZywOo | 
United States weaboo
n00b
2021-02-15 00:07
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GOD
2021-02-15 00:09
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#11
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United States Virgin Islands breasts
> I saw that the North American scene really needed some help xD
2021-02-15 00:11
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ptr will singlehandedly save NA CS:GO
2021-02-15 01:26
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I like the way this nonamer think
2021-02-15 00:11
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hey, you can wake up now!
2021-02-15 07:54
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#13
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
ptr is 30?? thought he was like 24 or something
2021-02-15 00:11
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No kidding, the man has a total "baby face". Probably a good thing for him in the long run though I suppose
2021-02-15 00:16
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Bet he needs ID/passport to buy some beer
2021-02-15 00:18
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Cool
2021-02-15 00:11
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#19
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United States GGtho
Who cars tier 999
2021-02-15 00:14
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plying
2021-02-15 00:15
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ptr real chad who came back to CS cuz he know it’s better
2021-02-15 00:22
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he says in the interview he only didnt end up playing Valorant because no org wanted him and he didnt want to get a real job lol 30yo unemployed virgin, not chad
2021-02-16 00:20
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on stream he said he came back cuz the game wasn’t something for him
2021-02-16 00:40
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#36
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United States stotte
Good luck man. Happy to see you back
2021-02-15 00:22
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+ 1 Im too
2021-02-15 00:34
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Dirty peek pete back at it again destroying in MDL
2021-02-15 00:27
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#38
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United States B0b3rT
Ptr na legend
2021-02-15 00:30
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true ... I saw ... + 1
2021-02-15 00:33
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+1 true!
2021-02-15 00:38
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ptr the overpass bong hitter
2021-02-15 00:31
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That was the best stream moment ever dude hahahahaha
2021-02-15 01:46
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yup good old times
2021-02-15 12:10
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PTR are God my Friends...
2021-02-15 00:32
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ptr is already 30 wtf time flies
2021-02-15 00:34
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#44
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Sweden HaasF1Team
Cheers
2021-02-15 00:36
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Can't wait to see NA come back in full force for 2021
2021-02-15 00:37
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PTR NA Legend!!!
2021-02-15 00:38
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#49
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BnTeT | 
United States wiseman305
im glad he is back to help revamp the scene. absolutely a legend also! I hope things work out for you ptr
2021-02-15 00:50
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Sometimes you need a fire to ravage a forest before it can flourish like it never has before. Me is word genius.
2021-02-15 01:02
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sometimes you need a ptr to drop some sick nasty ass deags and snipes on the hoes.
2021-02-15 01:27
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Brazil loves you, ptr.
2021-02-15 01:05
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<3
2021-02-15 01:46
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#55
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Denmark Gryde
dirty peek pete is back bby
2021-02-15 01:11
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piotr’s beegest achieve on LAN is handshake. -Dosia
2021-02-15 01:27
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Guess it's true xD
2021-02-15 07:47
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ptr ain’t got shit on me!
2021-02-15 01:28
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brax <3
2021-02-15 03:44
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#60
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Venezuela 643
Good guy. Wish him the best. Good luck dirty peek pete
2021-02-15 01:29
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respect for sticking with the better game
2021-02-15 01:30
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+1
2021-02-15 03:32
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#62
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United States xiquo
we will see huh
2021-02-15 01:34
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#63
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
Fak valorant
2021-02-15 01:36
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EU hating why? These guys are a decent team and they will only improve
2021-02-15 01:48
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the majority of EU just complains about everything anyway. What happen is a bunch of washed na pros or na pug stars switched to valorant for the NA ego paycheck. It’s not that serious. They’ll be back in a year or two lol.
2021-02-15 02:08
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don't worry about it, EU is on NA topics just to talk shit by design
2021-02-15 03:32
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I think most are just doing it for the memes. But yeah this team is decent, get me 4/5 more like this and the premier level will become decent again (right now it's on life support).
2021-02-15 13:57
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valorant really did an impact on the NA scene, we can only be glad that players like ptr are still trying to improve it
2021-02-15 15:15
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#70
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Brazil SecondKS
Irrelevant
2021-02-15 02:22
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#71
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North America Mang0
I wonder how much ptr had to pay HLTV to have them write an article about him?
2021-02-15 02:30
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#74
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Faroe Islands atilayax
ptr
2021-02-15 03:32
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#75
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Turkey 69kagan
respect for coming back. <3
2021-02-15 03:37
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#77
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United States lizardgecko
ptr is a old dude who has no time for this shit. Glad to see that he's back
2021-02-15 04:06
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Ptr is back again
2021-02-15 04:14
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after the timbermen controversy why even bother? literally banned 4 upcoming NA players completely from faceit for unrelated messages, of which only one player deserved it. any newcomers are gonna gain an ego even faster when they've not worked for it as hard as the rest. If you look at NA FPL (avg ~1000 matches) vs EU FPL (avg ~3000-4000 matches) thats a huge disparity on its own. imo upcoming NA cs is not going anywhere at this moment. willing to bet itll be at least a year til we see actual notable people with talent. have fun killing another year of your life ptr!
2021-02-15 04:16
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#112
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United States DudeGuy96
whats the timbermen controversy?
2021-02-15 15:04
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all the timbermen players got caught saying the n word off the server in a private discord, 4 of them got perm banned from faceit out of na fpl
2021-02-15 20:59
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#119
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United States DudeGuy96
i wonder how you get caught doing that
2021-02-16 00:12
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someone in the discord gave all the sses to elige and he put on his twitter. you can check there
2021-02-16 22:26
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if spongey was such a solid player then why was he cut from the team...
2021-02-15 05:41
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#81
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France cedd
Ptr is a nice guy i hope he succeeds
2021-02-15 06:05
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Such a nice dude, GL man!
2021-02-15 06:13
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#88
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Brazil 1_Flippy
NA upcoming teams in 2018, 2019, 2020 were pretty much swapping players between eUnited, Ghost Gaming and Swole Patrol, always the same names, same teams, that always bothered me
2021-02-15 07:53
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#127
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United States Phamous3k
It's like that in many esports at the tier 1 level. LoL, Dota, etc.
2021-02-17 05:44
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#91
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Poland Szcz
PTR… Why you… What he's doing?…
2021-02-15 08:21
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tbh i thought ptr was already in valorant as well chances of this roster somewhat breaking out of that dead scene over there is pretty much zero and they certainly wont get better while playing against these dead matchmaking teams in their scene so maybe one or two of them are lucky enough to get picked by EG or Liquid in the near future
2021-02-15 08:30
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#93
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United States miragessbm
+1
2021-02-15 08:35
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#95
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Poland SebL
The duo of ptr and Jonji is so insane. But who is madcow? I never heard about him before. Bad News Bears have looked insane in those ESEA tournaments, like a TOP 20 team I would say.
2021-02-15 10:01
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ptr is fking 30yo? LMFAO
2021-02-15 10:03
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Brazil NegoNey
i was shocked too, i tought he was like 24?
2021-02-15 14:02
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time flies...
2021-02-15 14:03
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#109
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Brazil NegoNey
man i discovered yesterday that ptr was the first Keyd Stars coach back in 2015, wow we are getting so old lmao :(
2021-02-15 14:04
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callmecarson
2021-02-15 11:25
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#105
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Brazil NegoNey
-Spongey +Wrath and this team can go somewhere
2021-02-15 14:02
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+11
2021-02-15 15:02
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+1! Dirty Peek Pete and Jonji on a mission to save NA!
2021-02-15 15:02
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Dirty peek Pete Pog
2021-02-15 17:13
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The prodigal child has returned to save NA. The GOAT lives on. You’ve been warned.
2021-02-15 19:45
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