Sources: Sprout consider removing denis

25-7-2021 20:20

The German organisation is mulling over its options in the off-season.

Sprout are weighing up the possibility of removing Denis "⁠denis⁠" Howell from their starting lineup following a frustrating tournament season, multiple sources have told HLTV.org.

The Berlin-based organisation is considering recreating an international roster just seven months after returning to an all-German team with the signings of Marko "⁠kressy⁠" Đorđević and Fritz "⁠slaxz-⁠" Dietrich, the sources said. The pair were brought in to replace Michał "⁠snatchie⁠" Rudzki and Paweł "⁠dycha⁠" Dycha, who went on to join AGO and ENCE, respectively.

denis returned to Sprout in September 2019 after a short spell with BIG

The victories in European Development Championship 2 and ESL Meisterschaft Spring were practically the only bright spots of an otherwise disappointing season for Sprout, who placed 11th in Flashpoint 3, 13th-16th in IEM Summer and 9th-12th in IEM Cologne Play-In.

After a deep run in ESEA Premier Season 36, the German team found themselves staring relegation in the face in Season 37, only avoiding the drop to Advanced with a 2-1 victory over Anonymo in a do-or-die match.

Apart from a brief spell with BIG in mid-2019, denis has been on Sprout's books since the organisation was created, in December 2017. The 26-year-old, who previously played for teams like EYES ON U, PENTA and mousesports, has attended several international events with Sprout, including ELEAGUE Major Boston, where the team were eliminated in the New Challengers Stage.

Sprout are currently ranked 10th in the European Regional Major Ranking (RMR) table, with 600 points. In the event of a roster change, they will lose 20 per cent of their points (120) but will still qualify for the next RMR tournament as a Contender.

Contacted by HLTV.org, Sprout declined to comment.

oof

2021-07-25 20:20

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BIG +Denis confirmed

2021-07-25 20:21

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SPROUT CHRISJ

2021-07-25 20:34

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chrisj speak jerman?

2021-07-25 20:39

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He was part of German lineups in the past, he is quite used to it

2021-07-25 20:46

actually, most dutch people can do it. Words are similar. As a German, I can understand written dutch also a little bit. Not every word but understand mostly the intention of the sentence

2021-07-25 20:48

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you are indeed the goat

2021-07-25 21:45

What about spoken Dutch? I heard it is hard!

2021-07-25 21:46

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only when they speak fucking slowly.

2021-07-25 21:47

It's not like they have to have deep conversations about life and philosophies while ingame lol

2021-07-25 22:04

Where were you for the last year))

2021-07-26 17:54

nah that is a 0/8 from me XD idk germans always love netherlands or something... not everyone speaks German by far and it might say 80% or something,,, that is just not true, people get it in high school for like 2 years and then dont do anything with it for the rest of their lives. without training is tough to follow, you might get the meaning of a sentence if you read it on a sign which isnt special, could prob do the same with french... but when talking... nah cant follow

2021-07-25 23:48

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Yeah, I agree 100%. I've learned speaking okay'ish Dutch over the years when I played in Dutch teams, also by the help of studying a Dutch language textbook. The more I got into Dutch the more I had realized how badly I missunderstood sentences which I really thought I would understand before that.

2021-07-26 16:53

2021-07-25 22:19

would be pretty cool

2021-07-25 22:47

deserves better imo

more like BOTJ

2021-07-27 14:55

What a funny way to make news "Sources"

2021-07-25 20:59

sad

Cool

ahahhahahahahhahahahaha

denis to mousesports again, making them the GOATs

mousesports considering disband lololol

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I'm mithR, can't confirm

2021-07-25 23:37

they are fine mens)) no need to worry

2021-07-25 23:49

Sadge

BIG -XANTARES +denis

it has been confirmed that languages isnt that big of a problem

2021-07-25 23:50

should have moved to valorant the moment it came out

2021-07-25 20:22

Source: Trust me bro

yes

2021-07-25 22:13

Kinda sounds like they won't remove Denis but just want to light a fire under his ass by "leaking" this

2021-07-25 20:23

i haven’t seen a player get kicked in so long, everyone nowadays is getting benched

2021-07-25 20:26

But no org is gonna pay his buyout tho even if it was just 200$

2021-07-25 21:14

idk his friend might

2021-07-25 22:07

FINALLY

and it took them what to come to this realization... 3 years??

I mean nobody stood out as potential replacement in german scene

2021-07-25 20:50

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there's enough talented players in the german scene, you just have to give them a chance. better than recycling all the old shit every change... same in swedish scene.

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i bet my balls there are tens if not hundreds of t1 potential players hidden in germany, however the problem is that noone caught an eye of scouts

2021-07-25 21:12

i mean look at big academy, come out nowhere and players like aqua and glaved look promising. also other guys like skyye, j1n... sick talents but no chance given. i think they mostly play valorant now problem is that people like denis are too much friends with team managers and orgas... and then a shitshow like sprout happens

2021-07-25 21:16

there's so much promising talents, especially firepower wise in germany (but the scene is lacking IGLs) like #76 said, BIG academy's looking promising and i havent heard of any of these players before they formed also krimbo, kyuubi, devrann, prosus, panix, slaxz, kressy, s1n, skyye....

2021-07-27 15:14

+1 german scene had recycled washed up spiidi, denis, krystal, crisby etc for way too long

2021-07-25 23:58

Germany has a really good talent pool, the issue is the same 20 people keep on forming teams because no one wants to IGL, but most of those 20 people always want to have the last word so they would rather lose and destroy the team instead of talents becoming better than them.

2021-07-25 22:08

-Xantares +Denis

Pls no. denis isn't even able to perform against t2/3 teams. If BIG add denis the team will be official dead

2021-07-25 20:36

wait, he drop that far? holy shit

2021-07-25 20:38

It's sad but nowadays even Spiidi is performing better than him. He is basically useless against good teams and I doubt BIG would add him to replace XANTARES. I don't even know how he is still in Sprout because imo people like Krimbo, JDC, prosus and aqua are surely better him.

2021-07-25 20:54

Denis played for BIG briefly in 2019 I think suffice to say nah that's not happening

2021-07-25 20:52

Yeah he played for them for 2 months in 2019 but then got benched when smooya and nex rejoinend. If BIG were surprised by his performance they would've kept him and I don't think that they want to try him out again 2 years later

2021-07-25 21:00

sprout remove denis cuz he bad, so why should big take him when he is shit

2021-07-25 21:53

Bruh why? they had a pretty good international roster until they wanted to go german and now back to international. its making a good team with a couple extra unecesary steps in the middle

2021-07-25 20:24

What makes you think they’re going international by removing denis? There are many German-speaking players that could replace him: rigoN, Krimbo, someone from BIG Academy like glaVed, prosus. ChrisJ also speaks German, but I don’t know if he would agree to join.

2021-07-26 06:55

the article says they are concidering about going international

2021-07-26 14:20

maybe add me?

+1 denamikas very good player

2021-07-25 20:31

r/thedenis in red alert

Interesting that this is considered newsworthy, but tier 2 reports are better than nothing at all so whatever :D

Top 15 teams won't give you daily news, you have to go lower to have daily updates

2021-07-25 22:10

who cars about tier 10 team?

Cool, he is pretty bad

2021-07-25 20:27

unluko

2021-07-25 20:29

who cares, washed

source: trust me bro

They play Source?

it's a bait

Do people actually think denis is skilled enough to replace xantares on big lol

2021-07-25 20:35

Denis isn't even good enough to be worthy of playing in Sprout

2021-07-25 20:37

he is very insane who wouldnt

Potentially sprout?

nope.

Wtf denis is the heart of the team

2021-07-25 20:40

Denis is like the glue of Sprout, gl kicking him and improving

2021-07-25 20:42

2021-07-25 21:13

True, denis is not the problem. What are they expecting ? Top10 with this current roster ? They lost to many stupid rounds against team spirit. They managed a lot of rounds on t's side of nuke and then, choke so hard. Lost a 4 vs 2, because they can't hold angles.

2021-07-26 04:13

They need igl, because their midrounds suck.

2021-07-26 20:44

source ?

2021-07-25 20:44

#36

sources: trust me bro

Really weak article. No source. Just talking out of your mind. Expected more from serious journalism. Even if it is true.

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Do u expect them to reveal who is their source? Thats not how the journalists do

2021-07-25 20:58

I expected at least to mention from which area are the rumours come. I don't ask for names. But with this standard here. I can write the earth is a flat cuz I think so.

2021-07-25 21:15

You cannot be serious if you expect a journalist to reveal his sources. “With the standard here”. That’s the difference between a random user and a journalist with 15 years of experience.

2021-07-25 22:06

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What that guy expected: My sources are obviously anonymous however I can say they are German, age 23, male, lives in Munich, works for Sprout in HR and is name starts with T. Also his anonymous Twitter is this @..... Bruh moment

2021-07-25 22:35

He could say if it comes from German scene or some talents or from Usbekistan news network. No need to mention anything else

2021-07-26 09:10

You gotta be realistic. These sort of rumours are not normally known by a huge group of people and are not wanted to known by the org to the public. So when these rumours come to light it's understood by everyone that someone in the group of insiders talked which no one likes as it can create a climate of mistrust in the organistions. It's also a super basic journalist move to not only protect your sources but verify their information with 3rd sources especially when working for a reputable source like HLTV

2021-07-26 14:55

Burn by Miraa xD

2021-07-26 03:20

Again I never demand names. As I already said. But you can write from which area it comes from. "several source" with this phrase even Trump tells the truth... And as you see in the comments I am not the only one with that critics

2021-07-26 09:13

0/8 imagine giving the source and destroying a persons career for that.

2021-07-26 08:49

Never asked for names.

2021-07-26 09:14

2021-07-25 21:48

fucking bot

2021-07-25 20:51

What is this journalism? Honestly HLTV....

2021-07-25 20:56

sad!

Sprout 0 iq. They re nothing without god denis.

Nt denis

2021-07-25 21:17

/r/the_denis in shambles

2021-07-25 20:57

-Denis +Dennis

2021-07-25 21:06

+1 lulmao

2021-07-25 23:43

who removing who?

You removed my comment? Over the target?

denis always sucked and will forever suck as soon as he doesnt play german shit tier teams anymore

2021-07-25 21:29

BIG sign denis /s

2021-07-25 21:30

Interesting if they will move him to a better team but if just kick then sadge. He is still a great player.

2021-07-25 21:41

denis used to be so good with the pistols

2021-07-25 21:42

I think that they are considering (if they hadn't already) to pick Krimbo or PANIX from Alternate.

omegalul only now ???

2021-07-25 21:54

spiidi is same noob

ru trash lmao

2021-07-26 17:48

calm down everyone knows spiidi dennis is problem

2021-07-26 17:52

spidii cant igl what makes him the problem. Denis aint bad and is a delight for the team

2021-07-26 17:55

funny guy ..

2021-07-26 17:57

who?

2021-07-25 22:30

expected

bot spidii aswell,thanks

2021-07-25 22:33

Who all remembers Mouz denis, that roster was fun to watch, 16-0’d Navi

yeah, was best jerman roster those times

link?

2021-07-26 06:16

hltv.org/matches/2310038/mousesports-vs-..

2021-07-26 07:28

not sure who would replace him probably a younger player like aqua, sens3y, or krimbo

again international? LMAO

2021-07-25 22:51

rip

2021-07-25 23:06

go +krystal :) he makes them top20 and gets kicked after it again yes

2021-07-25 23:10

Game changing,watch out Gambit Sprout is coming...

2021-07-25 23:21

denis is bad, but spiidi? rofl

2021-07-25 23:24

Spidii is a Good igl Not Hard to See

2021-07-26 02:34

Sad but expected

2021-07-25 23:25

good idea.

2021-07-25 23:42

-jw+denis

every move Sprout make they get worse or maybe they are so at the bottom that it's not possible to fall deeper

2021-07-26 01:42

If they get a good player he is sold to better team, German teams are just stepping stones for better players: mantuu, HUNDEN, natosaphix, dycha, snatchie, NiKo, karrigan, allu, oskar BIG is the only team where good players are kept

2021-07-26 11:42

EZ AQUA

2021-07-26 01:48

They probably add krimbo

2021-07-26 02:41

about time goddamn

2021-07-26 04:15

agony.

2021-07-26 08:29

Hahahah

2021-07-26 12:14

He has been playing pretty bad lately, seems like a right move for Sprout tbh. -denis -kressy +pulzG +powerYY I think it's worth giving those guys a trial, they seem to be playing well.

2021-07-26 12:43

hopefully this toxic player wont get any new team, completly deserved.

2021-07-26 12:51

Denis did great with his gamesense and fragging especially in pistol rounds other than kressy who is completly bad. Eitherway Spidii cant IGL at all what shoud replace him along with kressy. Then Sprout should add skyee, devran, or someone else from a half filled german pro team!

2021-07-26 17:45

Imagine to kick denis and not kressy. Also faven would be a better pick for big, so they should just sell him

2021-07-26 20:03

Would be a bad move altough his stats arent good right now but thats part of his positions and roles. I think he keeps the Team together with his experiences especially on LAN

2021-07-26 23:50