forZe in trouble after two losses at IEM Fall CIS

Two major upsets graced the first day of IEM Fall CIS, with many close games elsewhere.

With the first day of IEM Fall CIS now done and dusted, we can take stock of the first day of games and what exactly they all mean for the RMR standings.

The first result of note came in the second round of games with Unique, currently ranked #72 in the world, defeating the world #13 FORZE on Ancient. The Kazakhstani squad had Aman "⁠ice⁠" Seitkaliyev to thank for their unexpected win, with the rifler posting an eyewatering 100 ADR and 1.52 rating to top the scoreboard by a large margin.

Jerry and co. have work to do to make it to playoffs
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Unfortunately Unique realistically have very little chance to qualify for the major, as they would need to win IEM Fall at the bare minimum AND have the rest of the tournament shake out in their favour.

FORZE also lost their second game against INDE IRAE, the lowest ranked team at the event. It was a team effort from the underdogs in this map, with the key stat for INDE IRAE being the fact they won 3 clutches to FORZE's 1.

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Realistically FORZE do not have to start panicking yet despite their poor form, and not just because there are plenty of best-of-ones left for them to try and win; as they currently occupy the fifth and final qualification spot in the RMR standings, and hold a solid 850 point lead over their nearest challengers, they would need to finish outside of the top-five and be outplaced by a team below them to not qualify.

One of those teams that could outplace FORZE and ruin their qualification hopes is Virtus.pro, who are currently sat in sixth in the RMR standings. Virtus.pro need at the very least a top-five placing at this event, simple as that, and got their campaign off to a solid start with routine wins over K23 and Unique.

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The result against K23 may be key come the end of the event, as they are one of the teams Virtus.pro will be looking to outplace at the event and thus overtake in the RMR standings to qualify for the Major. Helping to knock K23 out in groups would be a huge boost to Virtus.pro's chances.

Elsewhere in the event, Entropiq's win over Akuma could also prove to be vital, seeing as both teams are on a similar amount of RMR points and need to outplace each other, as well as teams like Virtus.pro, K23 and FORZE, to ensure their place in Stockholm.

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Akuma also lost their second game vs Spirit, giving themselves an uphill battle to make it out of groups, and the smart money would be on their chances already having passed.

The current standings are:

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RMR standings breakdown: Where teams need to place to qualify for the Major
Kazakhstan Aman 'ice' Seitkaliyev
Aman 'ice' Seitkaliyev
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
286
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
so bad
2021-09-29 19:03
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#7
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Croatia imjustmau
unlucky
2021-09-29 19:04
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1 reply
G2 lost to this?
2021-09-29 19:07
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#2
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Peru tosta
rip
2021-09-29 19:03
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sad for them
2021-09-29 19:03
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3 replies
#16
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Russia Fimbly
Nah , this fluke shit with fluke EPL slot needed to be stopped , dogZe xd
2021-09-29 19:10
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2 replies
maybe they only play good against tier 1 teams, who knows
2021-09-29 19:14
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CIS > EU
2021-09-29 22:03
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Lol
2021-09-29 19:04
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#5
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Nicaragua Firefly_
Damn
2021-09-29 19:04
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noobs
2021-09-29 19:04
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Bo1's dont mean shit
2021-09-29 19:05
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3 replies
#66
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Only this is a major qualifier. Teams didnt choose this format, they are forced to play it
2021-09-29 22:40
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2 replies
I know, i just hate Bo1's they're so stupid, especially so for a major qualifier
2021-09-30 14:09
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1 reply
#78
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
+1
2021-09-30 14:37
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Honeymoon period is over.
2021-09-29 19:05
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it's only their fault understandble loss to unique but losing from 10-5 score to inde irae?
2021-09-29 19:06
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1 reply
people underating inde irae alot... they are not that bad, same as trasko who should be here aswell
2021-09-29 19:10
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#12
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Russia mshkoda
why so bad
2021-09-29 19:07
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Hope VP qualify instead of this bots
2021-09-29 19:07
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21 replies
+1111111111111111111111111
2021-09-29 19:08
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#19
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World elefiveS
-k23 -forze +vp +entropiq this would be awesome
2021-09-29 19:12
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i mean they're already qualified considering forze will probably go 0-5 now and VP beat k23
2021-09-29 19:14
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hell yeah
2021-09-29 19:29
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Who cares, forZe or VP, both gonna fuck up at the major.
2021-09-29 19:33
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VP was grand final at last Major tho
2021-09-29 19:34
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15 replies
Name doesn’t check out
2021-09-29 19:37
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1. It was two years ago. 2. It was a fluke. VP isn't even close to being major-final team level.
2021-09-29 19:43
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13 replies
fluke or not it doesnt matter we have c9 fluke major win then disband, we have Gambit fluke major win then disband win is win,
2021-09-29 19:45
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4 replies
Yeah, but the only difference that Avangar didn't win. They went to finals, Astralis fucked them (it was the fastest major final ever btw) and end of the story.
2021-09-29 19:47
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3 replies
the difference is VP still way better contender than forZe in any sense
2021-09-29 19:48
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Ence?
2021-09-30 02:22
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1 reply
ENCE proved later that this wasn't a fluke and had bunch of decent placements.
2021-09-30 03:56
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who is close?
2021-09-29 19:53
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1 reply
For sure it's not VP, who cannot even pass groups at EPL.
2021-09-30 03:57
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#51
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
1 Argument actually does’nt work for VP cuz they were all (except AdreN) young and inexperienced, for the past two years they’ve definitely become a lot better. “VP isn't even close to being major-final team level” VP reached Katowice(2nd biggest event after the Major) Grand Final this year having beaten the strongest teams in the world, ur delusional
2021-09-29 20:05
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The problem is that this was half of year ago. After that VP could barely pass group stages (not even always, in EPL they ended up almost last).
2021-09-30 04:00
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#79
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
Which EPL? You are lying. In EPL 13 they made it to the playoffs, in EPL 14 they almost did it to the playoffs (2-3) losing in a close match to Col and ForZe The only events didn’t make it to the playoffs was Dreamhack Masters spring and EPL 14(in both events they were one step away from making playoffs) IEM Katowice- 2nd EPL 13 - playoffs Epic League RMR - 2nd IEM Summer - playoffs IEM Cologne - playoffs I am still asking you, can you name me a team that has more achievements/playoffs appearances than VP besides Gmb/Navi/G2/Heroic? You can’t teams like Vitality/NIP/Faze/Big/OG/Liquid/ even Heroic have all less playoffs appearances than VP
2021-09-30 14:50
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#52
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
Can you name me who is better(achievement wise) than VP in this year besides Navi/Gmb/G2/Heroic?
2021-09-29 20:10
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Vitality maybe
2021-09-29 22:05
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#65
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
I’d say they are pretty equal Vita: Blast Global Finals - 3rd IEM Summer - 3-4th EPL 14 - 2nd (Overall 3 playoff appearances) VP: Summit - 1st IEM Katowice- 2nd EPL 13 - playoffs Epic League RMR - 2nd IEM Summer - playoffs IEM Cologne - playoffs
2021-09-29 22:37
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who plays the 5th place decider? 3rd team from each group or what?
2021-09-29 19:08
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#32
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
You are right
2021-09-29 19:21
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Happy that Entropiq won 2 easiest opponents, really want to see them in the Major. Forze are, on the other hand, disappointing, after EPL I was waiting more than this. Hope they can grab some wins but it won't as easy as it couldve been
2021-09-29 19:10
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why do you want to see entropiq at the major?
2021-09-29 19:15
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I think it is a kinda cool storyline, how long were they working, changing orgs, playing without any. Plus, would be interesting to see el1an on LAN, sadly nobody but EU have their chance to play there. Finally, I love their squad overall, imo they will be funny to watch in general, hooch and the boys all are quite emotional
2021-09-29 19:33
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Online bo1's are a great format !
2021-09-29 19:13
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1 reply
It sure is!
2021-09-30 02:34
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#21
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Ukraine Raze49
Virtus pro instead of forze, i'm ok with that
2021-09-29 19:13
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#58
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Argentina blatxer
+1
2021-09-29 21:18
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Rip
2021-09-29 19:15
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sadge
2021-09-29 19:16
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Ouch Yikes Lmao Wtf
2021-09-29 19:16
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Forze is a BO3 team, this is kinda expected.
2021-09-29 19:17
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#29
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World filops
Very disappointed
2021-09-29 19:18
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forze in trouble after 2 matchfixing matches
2021-09-29 19:21
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#31
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
This is why BO1 in most important qualification in 2021 is pure bullshit. There should be GSL groups all bo3 or AT LEAST deciders bo3. This is comedy, i don't understand how valve allowed this format. I thought we let this crap behind in roughly 2018.
2021-09-29 19:21
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Just dont lose 4Head and you wont have a problem.
2021-09-29 19:38
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#56
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
i don't bet and i don't care much about forze either. Still, this format is bullshit.
2021-09-29 21:04
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I didnt say you are a bettor, I just said that forze just shouldnt lose bo3 or even a map against opponents significantly weaker than them
2021-09-29 22:06
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#63
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
ah i misunderstood your statement, well... true, but BO1 are quite random to be honest...
2021-09-29 22:09
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#33
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Ukraine futplxyer
VP > Forze I hope they get the major spot
2021-09-29 19:22
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akuma kekw
2021-09-29 19:41
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#42
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World yjen
faceit lvl 10 mix > forze
2021-09-29 19:44
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Its not "in trouble", its "in crap"
2021-09-29 19:47
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no xsepower no win
2021-09-29 19:47
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Happy for almazer, nice
2021-09-29 19:48
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#49
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Poland SebL
They looked so strong in EPL and after that it just... got much much worse, honestly it would be really sad to see them not qualify for a Major, but you have to beat teams like this to qualify there. This tournament is getting really interesting now.
2021-09-29 19:52
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Trouble because they just earned a lot of money right? 0-5 incoming and they will get more "trouble" soon KEKKKW
2021-09-29 20:47
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Flamie going to have his new team
2021-09-29 20:51
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#55
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Chad Journalism
HEY FORZE IT'S STOCKHOLM HEARD U COULDN'T MAKE IT SORRY, HOPE U HAVE A "BLAST" IN CIS HAHAHAH
2021-09-29 21:00
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#57
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North America minte
RIP MY FANTASY TEAM
2021-09-29 21:04
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F
2021-09-29 21:29
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Forze the kings of losing to tier 10
2021-09-29 22:31
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Navi, Gambit, Spirit, VP, Entropiq qualify for major
2021-09-30 02:08
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#71
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United States Rayduh
Entropiq???
2021-09-30 03:12
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#70
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United States Rayduh
BO1 haha
2021-09-30 03:12
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#75
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Australia thisba!tes
ThrowZe back
2021-09-30 11:13
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full of money in wallet =)))))))
2021-09-30 11:16
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