Valve releases comprehensive Major rulebook, confirms RMR changes

In an attempt to eliminate inconsistencies between Valve-sponsored events, the developers released a "CS:GO Major supplemental rulebook."

Valve has released a comprehensive rulebook, in which the developers have introduced a few important changes to the way invites are handed out and outlined a number of key rules they expect to be followed at Majors and the qualifying tournaments for CS:GO's pinnacle event.

The news follows the announcement of the next Major, which will be organized by PGL and take place in Antwerp, Belgium, in May.

A large variety of issues are addressed in the document, the most important of which are a series of clarifications on rules around the Regional Major Ranking events, which have dealt with serious inconsistencies in the past two years, not only between regions but also between tournament series within one Major cycle.

One of the biggest changes for future Majors concerns the way in which participants are determined. Valve has scrapped the points system used in the 2020 and 2021 RMR cycles, as only one RMR event will take place between Majors from now on in each region and determine all participants at the following Major. Teams will also be unable to make changes to their lineups between the RMR and the Major.

Secondly, as first reported by HLTV.org, the RMRs will be partly consolidated into three main regions, or five in case they are held online.

The 3 RMR regions are:

- Europe
- America
- Asia

In the event that the RMRs must be held online, there will be 5 RMR regions:

- Europe
- North America
- South America
- Asia
- Oceania

Thirdly, the regions will be awarded spots in part based on their performance at the previous Major. Teams who reach the Champions stage will secure their region a Legends spot, while teams who reach the Legends stage will secure a Challengers spot for their region at the next Major. The Contender spots will remain fixed, with Europe and North America having three each, and Asia having two. If teams decide to change regions, they will carry over their invitation to their new region.

That means that at the recently announced PGL Major Antwerp, if teams continue to play in their home regions, the slot distribution will look as follows:

PGL Major Antwerp

Europe — 7 Legends, 6 Challengers, 3 Contenders
Americas — 1 Legend, 2 Challengers, 3 Contenders
Asia — 2 Contenders

The document also consolidates other rules to be followed at Valve-affiliated events — from the exact fashion in which RMR invites are handed out and formats used in every stage of the qualifying process and the Major, to specific processes the Major Tournament Organizer needs to follow, the server settings, and the ineligibility of Valve-banned players to participate in the Major.

Here is the full CS:GO Major rulebook.

nice
2022-02-02 21:09
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Must be online?!?!
2022-02-02 21:12
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In the event that the RMRs must be held online, there will be 5 RMR regions:
2022-02-02 21:13
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just a contigency
2022-02-02 21:39
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Dont think so
2022-02-03 09:40
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in case they have to do it online possibly due to covid
2022-02-03 10:48
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#279
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Finland WhyUBulla
corona is already over bro
2022-02-04 05:38
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#224
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Yugoslavia Acceb
south africa fucked again lmmao
2022-02-03 06:34
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Yep... I dont get why they forgot about an entire continent...
2022-02-03 07:39
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Lol
2022-02-03 08:05
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#2
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Germany terraya
NO :O
2022-02-02 21:10
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nt
2022-02-02 21:11
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#65
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Germany terraya
thx :(
2022-02-02 21:49
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+1
2022-02-03 05:24
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#3
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United Kingdom Knowzi
oh
2022-02-02 21:10
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#5
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Why, why do they make 3 regions
2022-02-02 21:10
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So only best teams enter.
2022-02-02 21:21
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#196
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Other 88MPH
>only best teams enter >Americas have 6 teams
2022-02-03 01:25
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#198
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El Salvador Bredalow
Yes but if they all dont reach the next stage then their spots will keep going down
2022-02-03 01:32
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#210
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Other 88MPH
Not true. On top of that you have shitty NA teams taking the spots of good CIS teams who now have to compete with EU. Instead of teams like Entropiq and Flames you'll get tier 3 teams from USA and Brazil. In the end the fans get a worse product.
2022-02-03 03:50
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#249
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El Salvador Bredalow
It is true their spots will keep going down only their 2 contender spots are fixed.
2022-02-03 10:40
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Finally CIS can take more slots from EU.
2022-02-03 02:39
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Nah, now its RIP CIS only Navi and Gambit going through. No more bozo's like VP or entry pigs
2022-02-03 02:59
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Name doesn't check out.
2022-02-03 06:53
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#261
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World lol_n00bs
True++
2022-02-03 12:40
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to stop dead teams from qualifying I guess
2022-02-02 21:22
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#51
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Croatia Mirai181
also easier to handle 3 RMR events instead of 6 (one for every region)
2022-02-02 21:39
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Cause of views, with less regions you have better opportunity to see your favorite teams against each other.
2022-02-02 21:47
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actually separating europe + west asia to cis and eu was a bad idea from the beginning, few good eu teams didn't make it to the event meanwhile worse teams from cis could easily get the spot just because they are from cis and the level there is way worse
2022-02-02 22:19
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#108
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
*was
2022-02-02 22:25
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actually *were xd "they were from cis" that should be right
2022-02-02 22:36
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he meant that level was worse
2022-02-02 23:06
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makes no sense to put "was" there bro cuz i'm talking about the past and current state of cis scene there
2022-02-03 00:01
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i mean i could've used "was" there but using "is" there is not a mistake, at least i think so
2022-02-03 00:04
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#229
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
idk it just sounds weird, but it's ok now that I got your message. I wasn't referring to your grammar that much, I just wanted to point out that CIS teams are so much better now
2022-02-03 07:22
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it’s not about grammar
2022-02-03 08:39
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#228
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
+1
2022-02-03 07:17
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+1 CIS ruined cs go
2022-02-02 22:35
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CIS is going to play on europe, in Asia, only Asia and Oceania are playing
2022-02-02 22:59
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#144
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Europe JuliusCaesar
Its good for few reasons. Last Major was good example, some trash CIS teams were able to play on major when good EU teams didn't. Also I love that Asian teams will be able to pracc against good EU teams and get better. I hope NA will get few great teams so BR trash teams got no chance to get major spots. I want scene to be different. More flexible. 1.6 was kinda boring becuase only 3-4 teams mattered. Every1 else was tier2
2022-02-02 23:19
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#164
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Brazil Woix
BR trash teams got away better than every NA team, the only team that got a spot being real bad was EG which is american. Furia even got to legends. You are only spilling hate
2022-02-03 00:11
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#192
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Lithuania arres
Cant wait for great major teams from brasil like sharks, godsent, somerhing something nation, mibr and last dance. Way better than na teams for sure. Sharks and godsent showed goat performance in major. If you are gonna talk about eg, at least aknowledge that the team is changed now quite significantly where best br team furia probably have weaker roster this year.
2022-02-03 01:10
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#194
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Brazil Woix
You can talk about their performance at major, they were surely not at top world level, but at least they were there, what about NA scene? I trully hope NA comes stronger this year, it is good for competition, but my point was not about this years rosters possibilities, was about free hate on BR teams that are working hard and improving their game, there is no point on randomly trash talking people or teams that are doing nothing but their jobs.
2022-02-03 01:18
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#235
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Europe JuliusCaesar
Its really hard to talk to people on forums if They cant read. Gimme ur paypal, ill gladly pay for Your education
2022-02-03 07:42
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#278
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Brazil Woix
It is now very clear who is poorly educated here. Im really sorry for those hwo can't have a discussion without taking it into personal offense. Have a good day.
2022-02-03 19:42
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BR teams in the NA scene are mostly better, when you say BR teams are trash teams, you're saying NA teams are worse.
2022-02-03 01:01
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#234
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Europe JuliusCaesar
Its really hard to talk to people on forums if They cant read. Gimme ur paypal, ill gladly pay for Your education
2022-02-03 07:42
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thanks free hater.
2022-02-05 14:13
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how are NA teams better if SA is like a 3x better region currently?
2022-02-03 02:53
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#233
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Europe JuliusCaesar
Its really hard to talk to people on forums if They cant read. Gimme ur paypal, ill gladly pay for Your education
2022-02-03 07:42
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There is method to the madness in regards to that, though. Essentially, it's to thin out competition by only the very best and proven regions in the world, otherwise pretty much every region could enter and the event would be too long and way too stacked with all kinds of different levels of tiered competition. Without parameters, the end result would end up a mess.
2022-02-03 00:55
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QUOTE MY COMMENT
2022-02-02 21:10
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ok
2022-02-02 21:10
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Norway aRTYS4N
wtf theres no comments?
2022-02-02 21:10
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poor eu
2022-02-02 21:10
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Why?
2022-02-02 21:17
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navi gambit vp entropiq >>> no chance for noob eu teams to keep stealing spots on major
2022-02-02 22:41
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4 good teams < 5 previous cis spots
2022-02-02 22:49
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k23, new spirit, nemiga, forze, 1win. This move benefits the CIS region not Europe
2022-02-03 00:32
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its the strongest region atm, makes sense.
2022-02-03 00:54
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And who do you think these teams can beat? There is 5 very good cis teams and 16 spots. I'm just curious.
2022-02-03 00:57
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And in EU how many good teams there are? Vitality, G2, Faze & Heroic. CIS teams always surprised EU teams and I think they will continue to do that.
2022-02-03 11:46
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I think that aswell but I just would't call it a disaster (poor) for EU as 1st post in this chain said. When I compare Astralis, ence, OG, fntc, BiG or NiP with K23, nemiga, forze or 1win I would still give a slight advantage to EU. Of course some new teams or Movistar or CPH can occur aswell as surprises.
2022-02-03 12:58
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It's not a disaster, I actually think this change benefits both regions. CIS teams will have more chances and they may attract more investors. For example teams like 1WIN, Nemiga or K23 competed basically for a single spot, with the other 4 being pretty much locked in. Now they will compete with teams like OG, Flames, ENCE and other tier 2 EU teams for the last spots. For EU that's also good because they will have more competition and they have to show they are still the best region in cs.
2022-02-03 13:22
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I agree with you and can't understand why you opposed me at first place. I just asked wbo do you think your list of teams can beat
2022-02-03 13:49
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Well that's 4 teams and there is 16 spots. Spirit can be good but still 2/3 EU.
2022-02-03 00:56
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spirit? are you high xd
2022-02-03 09:45
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K I asked u and u got 4 teams out of 16 spots. How is that bad for eu?
2022-02-03 11:11
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+1
2022-02-03 02:41
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Damn your life must be sad.
2022-02-03 09:26
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flag checks out
2022-02-03 10:51
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New Zealand SWARN151
Whoa! That's cool. Just one RMR makes sense, given that the spot allocation to teams based on previous major is also being done. This spares time for organizing other events, instead of spending so much time on multiple RMRs.
2022-02-02 21:14
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#11
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Pakistan H4nz4l4
Volvo why reduce the prize money?
2022-02-02 21:10
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Cause volvo making lots of money.
2022-02-02 21:11
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Cause back to 2 majors
2022-02-02 21:13
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cuz Valve is small indie company
2022-02-02 21:14
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XD
2022-02-02 21:47
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LOOOL
2022-02-03 10:52
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I don't understand why they can't just have increased prize pool like they do with TI. Sell me a viewer pass or something that contributes to the overall prize pool and sell sticker capsules that have proceeds split among all teams. Would be nice if they were transparent with the increase and distribution as well.
2022-02-02 21:39
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As always valve only cares about money, a multi millionaire company that does not put a single dollar on majors....
2022-02-02 22:22
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#179
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Sweden zae
Billion°
2022-02-03 00:47
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Because it would destroy the circuit: see Dota 2
2022-02-02 23:16
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because it would destroy the entire circuit if they did that. if valve does like 20-30 million dollar tournaments every year why the fuck would most T1 Teams even bother to play in 250k-500k tournaments?
2022-02-03 02:56
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#219
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
thats stupid thinking >D dota is ameizing most top teams do play on all events so why here will be any diferent ofcourse dota normal tornament is 1 million but they have alot more viewers and shits
2022-02-03 05:34
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it isnt stupid thinking. the circuit is fine as it is, also every team gets around like 1 million dollars just for being in the major with sticker money, if you sum all of that up + the prizepool its already like 25 million dollars that teams gain from the major. there is a reason teams like EG and Extremum kept their roster for so long, and teams like Tyloo and Renegades still exist in CS. if they make prizepool 20-30 million dollars, plus the 16-24 million dollars from sticker money Blast and ESL tournaments would feel like Pugs compared to the Major
2022-02-03 05:44
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#221
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
no if you wanna keep winging and being in form you will like to be chalanged and learn as a team if you do not you will be not able to play as good as last time you were on the major and your secure spot wont be that secure anymore for next so your point is non valid
2022-02-03 05:55
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thats a good point acutally
2022-02-03 10:53
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They already do that, hello? You do know that 50% of the proceedings from the viewers pass(the thing you buy for the pickems) sale and the sticker sale goes to the participating teams. It's just not explicitly added to the prizepool, but they still already do what you are asking for. Add all that money and it's easily 10m+
2022-02-03 11:17
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I assume it's to go back to Two Majors a year, if they are able to get away with it. Otherwise, there would be only be one a year.
2022-02-03 00:56
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gaben needs money for dota :)
2022-02-03 10:52
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Kosovo w3stsid3
Najs
2022-02-02 21:11
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Oh no NA Scene gone?
2022-02-02 21:12
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#45
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United States Shmikeb0b
yes please
2022-02-02 21:34
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well, if SA dominate them on this RMR, then NA cs is oficially gone
2022-02-02 23:00
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"Teams will also be unable to make changes to their lineups between the RMR and the Major" BASED Sanji and Bubber died for this to happen
2022-02-02 21:12
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Sanjar and Bubzie, the unspoken heroes. Mens will never forget their sacrifice
2022-02-02 23:01
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so exited
2022-02-02 21:12
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Scotland Ludax
what did u exit?
2022-02-02 21:15
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#128
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Kazakhstan elqq^
why did you exit?
2022-02-02 22:53
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when did you exit?
2022-02-02 23:03
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#146
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Argentina WaSTe_D
where did you exit?
2022-02-02 23:29
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fak
2022-02-02 23:29
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Argentina WaSTe_D
The timing wtf
2022-02-03 00:28
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where did you exit?
2022-02-02 23:29
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who did you exit?
2022-02-03 05:13
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#248
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Sweden zae
how did you exit?
2022-02-03 10:38
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Poland seinterc
good
2022-02-02 21:13
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And how amount of slots will change? Or 6 NA slots 16 EU slots are locked for ages?
2022-02-02 21:13
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It says in the article.. Read it.
2022-02-02 21:43
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I read both articles thoroughly as this was the only thing I was looking for, but I couldn't find any info which suggest that the amount of slots will be changing over time. Can u please correct me if I am wrong?
2022-02-02 22:28
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I guess regions will have a fix amount of contenders slots, but teams will be able to change regions according to their players nationality. Good regions will be able to “hijack” legend slots from other regions too. I’m not sure how it’ll work with teams like 00Nation (BR playing on EU). Will they play EU qualifier or America qualifier? If america, were they aware about that?
2022-02-02 22:54
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idk I was thinking something more like 3rd place playin used to be so some region like Asia could get in for other EU team for example
2022-02-02 22:57
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#139
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Kazakhstan elqq^
TLDR at the end It was in Participants —> Invites —> Regional Representation in the Valve Rulebook: Regional Representation The number of teams invited from each region depends on the performance of that region in the preceding Major. Legends and Challengers invitations are allocated according to the number of teams from the region that earned their respective position in the Major: One Legends invitation is assigned to the region for every team of that region that reached the Champions stage of the previous Major. One Challengers invitation is assigned to the region for every team of that region that reached the Legends stage of the previous Major. Teams that earn an invitation for their region (i.e., top 16 teams from the Major) are given a chance to defend their regional invitation at the following RMR. If a team is able to–and opts to–play in a different region, their previous region loses an invitation and their new region gains an invitation. In other words, teams that change regions take their invites with them. Additionally, 8 Contender invitations are distributed to regions. Explaining in my own words: Contender spots are fixed, but challenger and legend slots will basically be determined by the amount of teams from X region in Y stage. For instance, America now has only 1 Legend slot, since only Furia got to Champions stage. TLDR: Champions stage (playoff) teams gain a legend slot for their respective region Legends stage teams gain a challenger slot for their respective region Contender slots are fixed (3 EU, 3 America, 2 Asia)
2022-02-02 23:05
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Lets say tyloo get to legends stage at major, then next major asia will get 3 slots: 2 contenders + 1 challenger
2022-02-03 00:11
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One of the biggest changes for future Majors concerns the way in which participants are determined. Valve has scrapped the points system used in the 2020 and 2021 RMR cycles, as only one RMR event will take place between Majors from now on in each region and determine all participants at the following Major So basically they returned to minors?
2022-02-02 21:15
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yes
2022-02-02 21:42
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kinda but not rly. if im not mistaken, now all teams will have to qualify again for the major through a rmr so even the top8 teams from the prev. major won't have a legend spot reserved anymore at the next major
2022-02-02 21:44
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#82
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Europe hyrokin123
Thirdly, the regions will be awarded spots in part based on their performance at the previous Major. Teams who reach the Champions stage will secure their region a Legends spot, while teams who reach the Legends stage will secure a Challengers spot for their region at the next Major.
2022-02-02 22:01
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will secure their **region** a Legends spot so yeah, no more free invites
2022-02-02 22:19
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thank god i was gonna lose it cuz of those free invites. it's more fair now
2022-02-02 22:24
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i support this idea, i dont want to see dead teams like EG or QBF in main stage just because they had fluke run in previous major, at least this time more or less all teams deservedly went to the playoffs, so I think that valve is a little late with this system. Strong teams which actually approved themselves throughout the season should qualify without any problems anyways. Edit: didnt see #82
2022-02-02 22:09
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#100 but it's not about the teams that qualified for the spots. when a team qualify for a stage then it's region will have 1 more spot for the next major. it's not about inviting teams, still.
2022-02-02 22:27
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i see now. Eu RMR is like mini-major at this point
2022-02-02 23:44
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yes and i like it more this way
2022-02-02 23:43
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United Kingdom Zethons
Seems much more so, although it is more of an extra stage to the major given that every team has to go through the RMR to qualify so you don't have dead teams coasting from 6 months ago. TBH its not really feasible to have 3 RMR's for each major having 2 majors a year and breaks for roughly 1.5m of the year with how many tournaments are being run and that increasingly events that could be 1 week are being run over 2 so all of the matches can happen thu - sun. For that system to work either Valve needs to be putting much more incentives for the TO to make their event an RMR or start being more forceful in saying when the RMR needed to run neither of which I could have seen happening.
2022-02-02 21:46
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"or start being more forceful in saying when the RMR needed to run neither of which I could have seen happening." i think they addressed that for the current major cycle. if u're looking at the event calendar you'll see that there are 2 free weeks before the major is supposed to start, enough time for pgl to hold the rmrs.
2022-02-02 21:55
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#77
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United Kingdom Zethons
I am aware of the two weeks before the major being for the RMR, I was referring to if Valve were still trying to have 3 RMR's before each major. I can see that I forgot the 's so it should be RMR's
2022-02-02 21:58
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Serbia YODAKOLE1
ok
2022-02-02 21:16
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so navi qualifed?
2022-02-02 21:16
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"forward" rofl
2022-02-02 21:16
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bad
2022-02-02 21:17
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#32
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Brazil Ale7
W
2022-02-02 21:19
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#33
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Czech Republic fabZeef
"Teams will also be unable to make changes to their lineups between the RMR and the Major" what if someone dies
2022-02-02 21:20
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so "dont die pls"
2022-02-02 21:25
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"somedieyoung"
2022-02-02 21:58
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At very least they can use the substitute rule for one player in expense of not using the substitute in the major itself. Too bad if two players die at same car accident though.
2022-02-02 22:09
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Seems more like a contract on what service the TO should provide than the actual rulebook for the competition. Would be really interesting to see the latter (if it exists!).
2022-02-02 21:20
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#37
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Brazil Karlogaria
Honestly the American spots are a bad joke. We can obviously see CIS (and European, in second place) dominance currently, but handing so few spots for NA and SA is an outrage
2022-02-02 21:24
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If NA/SA deserves more spots, they'll get them for the next major, provided more than 3 of their teams place in the top 16 (since they always get 3 contender spots and the rest are based on last major placings). I don't see an issue with that.
2022-02-02 21:42
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Indeed. This is an actual good system that helps with not having so many useless teams from useless regions. And this follows with the state of CS in different regions. For example as it is NA is pretty much dead, but if they rise again and have more good teams they will gain more spots accordingly.
2022-02-02 21:47
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#99
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Turkey edsvi
Deserves what ? Lmao. I know only liquid eg and furia from america. I dont know even other teams for 3 last spots. Spots could be reduced .
2022-02-02 22:19
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#57
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Serbia Cheerio23
Name me more than 6 good American teams
2022-02-02 21:42
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Name more then 2... lol
2022-02-02 21:51
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#277
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Serbia Cheerio23
Exactly
2022-02-03 18:22
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Flag
2022-02-02 21:50
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Only 3 spots are guaranteed for both EU (with CIS) and America's. Majority of spots are earned at Major. Seems fair to me.
2022-02-02 22:22
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Based
2022-02-02 21:24
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#40
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Portugal dracø
rule book is bigger than the prize money lmao
2022-02-02 21:26
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#41
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Europe Niko0
VAC The TO will not qualify, nor allow in any qualifying event, any player who has been “Valve Anti-Cheat” banned (“VAC Banned”) in CS:GO. Any player who is VAC Banned on any of their accounts must be approved in writing by Valve in order to be eligible to participate in the event. So Valve can aprove players that have been vacced before?
2022-02-02 21:26
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yea like jamppi before he swapped over i think
2022-02-02 21:38
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#112
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Europe Niko0
But i guess this is for everyone who has atleast 5 years since they were banned?
2022-02-02 22:33
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2 replies
#152
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Finland Gulaash
as a mouz fan you should know this. (torzsi's case)...
2022-02-02 23:36
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#273
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Europe Niko0
I havent changed the flair since Sunny was on mouz :D i didnt even know torzsi was vacced
2022-02-03 16:51
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This type of bias towards Europe is one of the reasons why a lot of big orgs are straight up avoiding CS nowadays, and it's too late to fix that problem. The scene is probably gonna be fully franchised in 2-3 years
2022-02-02 21:31
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#54
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Norway jakujaku
top level cs in other regions than europe is tier 3 in europe
2022-02-02 21:40
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1 reply
That's why I said it's too late to fix that problem. Do you think the best players are European naturally? The game was never nearly as big in non-EU regions, and Valve never tried to make it big.
2022-02-02 22:02
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Did you even read it? This is an actual good system that helps with not having so many useless teams from useless regions. And this follows with the state of CS in different regions. For example as it is NA is pretty much dead, but if they rise again and have more good teams they will gain more spots accordingly. Europe and NA have the same amount of solid spots, 3. Rest need to be earned.
2022-02-02 21:50
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NA won't rise again, and regions like Asia and Australia have no chance and never did. NA won't get orgs interested again, the scene is completely destroyed and now they share their 6 spots with South America, so why bother? Regions like Australia and Asia never get enough spots at the Major and rarely get invites or even chances to qualify for international events that aren't the Major, so how could anyone expect them to be better? The scene shouldn't have ''useless'' regions, yet it does, which is a mistake on Valve's part. If the World Cup had 25 spots for European teams would it be fun to watch? Would it be as popular?
2022-02-02 22:13
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19 replies
eu has 40% wc teams and 56% of teams in the top32 (# of wc spots) eu has 67% of major teams and 91% percent of top 24 teams Sounds fair to me
2022-02-02 22:45
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Dude, you're so lost. Even this new system is heavily biased towards every other region but eu. For years we have been watching a bunch of chinese and australian teams suck cocks in majors and taking spots from actual good teams. All because they were given chances they dont deserve, just because they happen to live in easy region. The real best choice is to not have any of this region bullshit and make everyone qualify from the same conditions. I tell you not a single chinese or au team will qualify. Maybe 1 NA team. This is heavily biased AGAINST eu.
2022-02-02 22:57
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And these Asian and Australian teams are supposed to..........just be good out of the blue? That's impossible. You're saying that a system which gives EU 16 out of 24 spots is biased against EU.......how? Of course Europe is the best region when it gets the most slots for events and the vast majority of tournaments, big and small, are in it. If the system is so rigged against Europe, why do big American orgs avoid the game? NRG, TSM, 100T, Spacestation, Rogue.......a bunch of others. Surely, they would take advantage of the situation if it was possible, which it isn't.
2022-02-02 23:21
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"If the system is so rigged against Europe, why do big American orgs avoid the game? NRG, TSM, 100T, Spacestation, Rogue" Because they dont want EU teams and the NA players are TRASH. The best NA teams have fucking valorant rejects in them. THATS NOT THE GAMES FAULT IF THEY SUCK AT PLAYING IT. Its still biased against EU because other regions have spots they dont deserve. Do you even understand how much money the teams get for even participating in the major? How the fuck is it fair that a trash tier chinese team gets a spot and all the money over an EU team that could wipe the floor with them? Dont blame the game or the system when other regions suck because they focus on different fucking games such as dota, lol and valorant. Get it?
2022-02-02 23:31
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I guess he just wanted to say, teams from America, Asia and Oceania should be given at least maybe 1 spot each in big events other than rmr and major. U get better only when u play against someone better. And that way u create interest from orgs and players from that region and thus expand cs:go circuit outside eu. As they are not exposed to the competitive teams they never become competitive.
2022-02-03 02:12
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#201
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Mongolia TengisG
+1
2022-02-03 02:20
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Its not a charity. You dont get this in any competition. And at that point valve has nothing to do with it because valve has nothing to do with other than rmr and major events.
2022-02-03 05:10
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10 replies
3-4 years ago people were saying that CIS getting slots was charity and that those slots are ''wasted''
2022-02-03 11:20
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9 replies
exactly those charity slots showing its wonders today.
2022-02-03 12:46
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Yes it was a waste back then. It has nothing to do with that we have a few good cis teams now. None of these teams needed charity, they all made it themselves with hard work. Tyloo for example have been given these major charity spots for many many years and they're still shit, even more shit than they were before.
2022-02-03 13:59
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Tyloo changed their roster and lost Bntet who was their best player. It wasn't a waste back then, because if it weren't for those ''charity'' spots teams like Avangar and players like mir wouldn't get a chance
2022-02-03 14:01
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Talking before bntet. And obviously they have changed roster multiple times in almost 10 years but they still havent got anything from this charity other than money they never deserved. All cis did get chances the same as any team and they were rising all the time without charity. Mir and most of current vp would be here charity or not.
2022-02-03 14:08
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You don't seem to understand how a global scene is developed. People will get bored of watching the 6 best Nordic teams play the 6 best Russian teams in every tournament, Valorant is gonna beat CS because they're building a global scene, not just a EU one
2022-02-03 14:09
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People will not get bored watching THE BEST teams competing. People will get bored watching koreans getting stomped 16-0 over and over. Infact, most ppl dont even bother to watch it in the first place. How much do you see teams/athletes getting charity spots in football and other globally huge sports? Not a single one. You have to earn it. It doesnt make fucking sense to invite Estonia in football worldcup just to see them get stomped. Inviting shit teams is definitely not the way to build a global sport. And any respectable athlete wouldnt even accept it. Tournaments are not a fucking training ground.
2022-02-03 14:19
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There's no ''charity'' spots in big sports? Since when? NBA - Recently the play in system has been implemented, so now a team that was 10th in the conference can win a couple of games against the 9th and 8th and get to the playoffs, despite sucking in the regular season. Football - They expanded the Euros to 24 spots so it's not the absolute best playing each other until the playoffs most of the time. The World Cup host gets a spot just because they're the host, that's undeserved. Tennis - The lucky loser system, where you can lose out in qualifying but still get invited to the main draw because someone quit the tournament Big sports are full of undeserved spots, so I don't think having the best Chinese or Australian team instead of the 6th best Danish or Russian team is a tragedy
2022-02-03 17:09
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Why the fuck are you talking about different qualifying systems man? How lost are you even? NONE of those spots come for free and for someone that didnt EARN IT. Its QUALIFYING. EVERY SINGLE CSGO TEAM HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY QUALIFIERS TO EVENTS. What we are talking about here is that trash tier asian and oceania teams are getting spots for free that they didnt earn. They didnt qualify through a hard path like EU teams do, they get it for free.
2022-02-03 17:25
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And no valorant is not going to beat cs, its a retirement home for cs players and doesnt have a global scene even as much as cs does. It has na scene.
2022-02-03 14:22
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#202
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Mongolia TengisG
Yep, it's really hard for region that has no opportunity to improve themselves. If they give some opportunities to region that has no opportunity. And just wait little. Things will be different.
2022-02-03 02:25
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You dont improve by playing tournaments, you improve by training your skills, studying the game and pracc. Do bootcamps in eu if you need pracc with top teams. But lets be real here, you learn some basic shit faster when you play better opponents, but if you want to be one of the best you gotta do your own way.
2022-02-03 14:32
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#43
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Turkey EfeZz24
guys,when is rmr tournaments starts?
2022-02-02 21:33
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1 reply
Probably after epl, right before major
2022-02-02 22:45
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#44
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United States Shmikeb0b
yay now we dont have to see shit EG getting a freebee legends status lmfao
2022-02-02 21:34
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Good People wont forget how EG reached legend stage in pgl Stockholm
2022-02-02 21:38
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#49
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Ukraine krtola
thank mr volvo
2022-02-02 21:39
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I couldn’t comprehend it…
2022-02-02 21:40
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#53
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland Astoner55
GOOD JOB! Finally more EU teams!
2022-02-02 21:40
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eternal fire to major pls ty
2022-02-02 21:42
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That is so dumb, honestly, dividing the already dead Americas and yet keeping the CIS and Europe together
2022-02-02 21:49
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#74
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Russia warmike_1
so are 6-man rosters allowed?
2022-02-02 21:57
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1 reply
Don’t think so
2022-02-02 22:00
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It’s a bit weird that the online version still has CIS and Europe together. This means the cis players still have to travel to eu which would be problematic since the reason for it being online probably would be due to covid
2022-02-02 21:58
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less go mens
2022-02-02 22:00
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#89
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Europe hyrokin123
so minors back? why don't we call it minor then?
2022-02-02 22:08
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2 replies
a little different since EVERY team has to qualify through the RMR, instead of top 16 from last major being invited back automatically
2022-02-02 22:18
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1 reply
so it'll be challenging af ig
2022-02-02 22:21
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Wow, this opens the door to a lot of upsets and chances of big teams missing out on the major if they bomb the RMR. Gonna be interesting!
2022-02-02 22:08
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Won't be surprised about new map / weapon meta change in like 1 month left before major.
2022-02-02 22:08
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10 replies
more like right after the major, we'll hit 10th anniversary of csgo + they won't make big changes right before the major for obvious reasons
2022-02-02 22:21
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9 replies
Dust2 change + grenades drop + m4a1-s and deagle changes = 22 september 2021 pgl stockholm major start = 30 october 2021
2022-02-02 22:28
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8 replies
yes but we are talking about such big things as "new map / weapon meta change" buffing m4a1s and nerfing a deagle didn't change meta, old krieg and aug changes were meta changing, also you can't compare the changing of one spot on dust 2 to adding new comp map, i actually think they may kick mirage and tuscan after the major, would be cool
2022-02-02 22:34
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7 replies
i hope u r baiting
2022-02-02 22:52
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6 replies
in which point?
2022-02-02 23:00
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5 replies
it changed a lot metagame. m4a1s main ct gun, greande drops created new strats, especially on B inferno. D2 changed areas (for example, lower tunnel now is CT position), deagle isnt as important as before… btw they wont remove mirage, its important for casual players. its the new dust2
2022-02-02 23:08
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4 replies
they don't have to remove mirage from mm etc. just from the active duty
2022-02-03 00:00
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3 replies
why not d2 or overpass
2022-02-03 00:16
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they are younger than mirage andtbh mirage is just boring to watch, removing it for a while would be nice
2022-02-03 00:45
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1 reply
for us, yeah. i dont think its true for casual players watching major
2022-02-03 00:58
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Exited to see how the spots will go if the rmr goes online
2022-02-02 22:15
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What about africa teams?
2022-02-02 22:22
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I don't f**king understand why the f**k Valve doesn't give at least 3 or maybe 4 slots for the Asia Region.
2022-02-02 22:42
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#157
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Brazil drydden
Apart from Tyloo you guys don't really have a scene
2022-02-02 23:57
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#195
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Mongolia TengisG
Cuz there is only 1 slot. If they give more slots i bet Asia will fk eu.
2022-02-03 01:21
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Asia can earn more spots at the next major cycle by qualifying to the legends stage
2022-02-03 01:30
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#119
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Brazil CallebHSD
So, are guys like v$m prohibited to play the Major again?
2022-02-02 22:43
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GOD FOR BRAZ1L
2022-02-02 22:49
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#170
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Brazil drydden
If we have an online RMR, Furia will have to play here and they will take their legend spot with them, meaning if Furia loses the tournament we can have another BR in their place at the major LOL
2022-02-03 00:19
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New meta: build a 3/2 EU/America roster and change it according to region competitiveness
2022-02-02 22:58
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#169
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Brazil drydden
That wouldn't be a tie, you need 2 EU, 2 NA and either 1 SA or 1 AS
2022-02-03 00:17
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1 reply
You can change one player on your roster for next major according to competitiveness. NA and SA same region
2022-02-03 00:57
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2022-02-02 23:00
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expected saw a dream about this years ago so not news to me
2022-02-02 23:05
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CIS teams will dominate the European qualifier
2022-02-02 23:29
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2022-02-02 23:41
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RIP CIS
2022-02-03 00:05
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#162
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United States BGS
So 1 RMR event (per region) will determine the remaining teams for the Majors?
2022-02-03 00:05
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#163
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Brazil drydden
"A team’s region is determined by the citizenship of the majority of its players. In case of a tie, the team chooses between the two" In case we have online qualifiers Furia will play for SA and a contender spot, wth is this
2022-02-03 00:08
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#165
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Brazil drydden
"If a team is able to–and opts to–play in a different region, their previous region loses an invitation and their new region gains an invitation. In other words, teams that change regions take their invites with them" Nevermind
2022-02-03 00:10
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Of
2022-02-03 00:11
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#171
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Brazil drydden
Honestly the way I see it we got favoured by Volvo a lot, and CIS got fu*ked over
2022-02-03 00:20
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Not really for CIS. They had 5 spots and should send minimum 4 teams - Navi, Gambit, VP and Entropiq. K23, Spirit and 1win are 50/50. So they will likely end up with 4-7 teams. All based on performance. Seems fair to me.
2022-02-03 03:28
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W
2022-02-03 00:26
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#173
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Finland Tusku
about time
2022-02-03 00:27
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Locking team region by nationality. Seems like someone didn't like to see 4 BR teams at the Major.
2022-02-03 00:32
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5 replies
???? You now have the same RMR with NA anyway, what's the problem?
2022-02-03 00:49
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4 replies
Right now we have competing in: NA: Furia, Godsent, Pain, Team One, Last Dance SA: MIBR, Sharks Europe: 00Nation and Case Esports If the RMRs take place online all of those teams will have to go play in SA, in the best scenario, for just 3 invites
2022-02-03 03:48
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So? Just earn more slots for your region instead of trying to steal it from others maybe ? We had 4 br teams last year and only 1 of the them was relevant. But you've even got much more undeserved chances to claim some NA spots
2022-02-03 07:31
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1 reply
+1 exactly that was literally spot abusing
2022-02-03 08:09
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#260
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Spain nTapps
Yea, I kind of have to agree with #218, #230 Out of that list, only Furia, Godsent, Pain are real contenders. The rest have to prove a lot yet
2022-02-03 12:30
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Finally "CIS region" is officially gone, its existence made 0 sense
2022-02-03 00:48
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There is definitely a lot of "why?" to this but at least Valve has ironed out previous complaints, at least. Till the next RMR. ^^
2022-02-03 01:07
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The only thing I don't agree with is removal of the points system. Imo teams who made playoffs on previous major should have some advantage in terms of points, and major winner should secure contender spot automatically (with the possibility to earn Legend of course). If major qualification depends only on 1 tournament, we can see a lot of very unexpected and "fluke" results
2022-02-03 08:44
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With one chance to qualify there are likely be more chokes from decent teams especially in Europe/CIS. Imagine if Navi had a bad start like they are having at Blast groups.
2022-02-03 04:11
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Can't wait for more sound issues at the next major :D
2022-02-03 04:22
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ok
2022-02-03 06:06
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nice volvo
2022-02-03 07:38
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another shitty pgl major
2022-02-03 09:11
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#246
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United Kingdom Theodoooore
Can Kazakhs play in Asia?
2022-02-03 09:44
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