Valve release fix for smoke bug

16-5-2022 00:29

Players will no longer have the possibility of use hanging over their heads.

Following the drama early on Sunday regarding a smoke bug that was used by Ilya "⁠m0NESY⁠" Osipov on Mirage, all teams at the Major decided to no longer intentionally use the bug in a vote facilitated by the CSPPA, despite the fact that it was explicitly allowed by the tournament organizers, PGL.

Later in the day, Valve released a hot-fix for the game that removed the bug. It is safe to assume that the rest of the Major will be played on the new game version, removing the possibility of the bug happening, whether intentional or accidental, and preventing potential use.

Valve have pushed a bug-fix in record time

The bug first came to light early in the day when a clip of m0NESY in G2's match against Imperial made the rounds on social media, where the player threw a specific smoke that overlapped one thrown by enemies to create a one-way area of visibility.

Many agreed that the mechanic shouldn't exist in the game, and quickly the players of the competing teams came together and agreed to no longer use the bug. This is not the first time that teams at a Major have made a gentleman's agreement, as at PGL Krakow 2017 players similarly came together to agree to not use a "jump bug" popularized by BIG at that event.

nice

2022-05-16 00:30

71 replies

expected

2022-05-16 00:30

56 replies

NOW ESIC PLEASE INVESTIGATE G2

2022-05-16 00:31

55 replies

G2 out of major confirmed

2022-05-16 00:32

49 replies

I really dont get why community freaked out about this smoke. Like damn monesy never did anything illegal

2022-05-16 00:43

47 replies

bait or reasonable?

2022-05-16 00:45

27 replies

Reasonable, admins literally allowed him to use the smoke and its just game mechanics to create such oneway. Now that valve fixed it, its alright, but i think its unfair to call it cheating like the community did

2022-05-16 01:13

26 replies

> reasonable > Just game mechanics

2022-05-16 01:17

It was not only a "one way smoke", my friend, his smoke literally cancelled the T's smoke, making it a bug abuse. Thats why every team decided to not use it anymore, its clearly bug abuse

2022-05-16 01:46

17 replies

There is no debate beyond, admins approved of it, then it's not cheating. I can think of countless much worse bugs that didn't lead to anything. Like BUG jump

2022-05-16 02:03

14 replies

2022-05-16 02:14

How bug jump was worst? At bug jump you still have to open to shoot, with this smoke you cancel tr smoke and have vision to get free kills at mid when tr thinks that the window is smoked

2022-05-16 04:05

3 replies

You could use jumping bug everywhere without previous prep. With this smoke it's uncertain where it can be used other than mirage and even if someone wanted to use it after g2 did then good luck with surprising anyone.

2022-05-16 06:20

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With jump bug there were still certain angles u could use it better - like everyone used infront of b apps on mirage - only discovered most if the other angles (cobblestone dropper or inferno wall and hay)

2022-05-16 10:02

Jump bug was way worse, you could use it almost every where and most of the team were abusing it. And getting free info across the map is way more dangerous then some counterble smoke

2022-05-17 08:40

I'd love to see your opinion if the bug abuse came from Imperial instead.

2022-05-16 14:02

7 replies

I hate G2, every single player i despise. Except Jackz, how can you hate Jackz I like Imperial more tbh. But i think that even Coaches shouldn't have been banned for a bug that's the CS:GO teams fault. So how should someone get banned for a bug that admins already cleared. The literal reason why the coaches where banned was because they didn't report it to admins,

2022-05-16 14:05

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Well, if you know something is wrong and yet you still do it anyway, you need to be punished. The right thing to do if you know it's a bug, would be to report to Valve and simply not use it. Fair play should be common sense, and to me, it should work the same way to any team, be it from CIS, Americas or Europe.

2022-05-16 14:12

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Im sorry but Valve don't care most of the time. That's kind of a large problem that Valve don't respond or fix issues quick enough. Valve fixed it this time quickly because it became a scandal. If M0nesy hadn't done it, Valve wouldn't have cared, like always. It's so bad that many pros are aware of known issues and have to agree among them not to use it.

2022-05-16 14:17

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I agree with you on that, Valve doesn't care mostly. But still, if you're aware that something is not right/unfair, you shouldn't do it. That's how things work on every aspect of life. I mean, if you do anything ilegal in real life, such as stealing for example, you get punished. The same should apply to any serious competition organization.

2022-05-16 14:32

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I think your concept of morality is a little twisted. M0nesy didn't "break the law" he broke the moral law. That's like sure it's illegal not to pay taxes, but you can legally dodge taxes. That's a gray area What he did wasn't illegal but probably morally gray. In the end of the day, he will probably just get memed on, just like BUG or Olofboost.

2022-05-16 14:42

2 replies

well said

2022-05-17 09:10

Not twisted, just a different point of view. IMHO bug abuse shouldn't be seen as OK and should be punished given the right proportions, of course. I'm not saying m0nesy should be VAC banned, but he should learn that doing that is not good for the competition and for himself. You see, that are lots of teams and players who are training their assess off to perform well on a MAJOR. It's just not fair with all of them.

2022-05-17 09:52

Like Fallen said himself "I doubt that m0nesy showed the admin that his smoke cancelled the other smoke, he might just have showed the admin like 'can I use this one-way smoke?' and the admin said of course you can." I never said it was cheating, I said it was a bug abuse, which it actually is. Thats why Valve released a patch the same day to fix it, thats also why every team (including G2) made a gentleman's agreement not to use this smoke

2022-05-17 04:10

you're right, it wasn't a one way smoke. It was a smoke that completely obscured the enemy's vision while giving the player in the smoke clear vision whereas a one way smoke at least partially obscures the line of sight of the player in the smoke.

2022-05-16 02:46

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Partially obscured is not the case though. There are one-way smokes where you can very clearly see the enemy. A slight bit of gray-tint on your screen isn't going to change that. I personally see this as a one-way smoke, but I also think all one-way smokes are bad for the game unless it's a perspective base one (for instance, you can see the feet).

2022-05-16 10:49

True. He asked the admins before the RMR if he could use it and they said he could. He didn't do anything wrong. He cared more than any other bug abuse before him.

2022-05-16 02:40

5 replies

i imagine what he said when he asked if he could use...probably didnt show or didnt say it cancel other team smoke

2022-05-16 06:18

3 replies

Why would he ask then?

2022-05-16 07:09

2 replies

just imagine the outcome if he didnt

2022-05-17 09:12

1 reply

It'd be different, because PGL would say that monesy only showed them that one smoke and not how it interacts with other smokes.

2022-05-17 11:48

Big did the same lol, even the event organizer legalized the bug outside the gentleman’s agreement

2022-05-16 10:34

Are you lying or just haven't really thought about what you said?

2022-05-16 10:30

because its not from NA/SA

2022-05-16 00:50

actually, he did go against the rules. It's an exploit that gives the player an unfair advantage. Just like olofboost and big jump, it's rightfully been fixed

2022-05-16 01:32

15 replies

he asked the event organizers months prior to using it if he would be allowed to, they said yes months before he even used it first time, so obviously within the rules (each event has their own set of rules and cvars allowed)

2022-05-16 01:39

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the organizers probably had no idea how unfair it was, they probably havent seen what happened when there was anothwr smoke on the same place. If that was the case, I'm 100% convicted that it wouldnt be allowed.

2022-05-16 01:46

7 replies

Blah blah blah, "probably, what if" you guys are making shit up to villainize him, if you want to be mad over a resolved issue then be mad at pgl admins

2022-05-16 02:02

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IF even Valve called it a bug and he did it consciously it's actually against the rules... This is from PGL rule book: "20. Forbidden in-game actions - Using bugs which change the game principle (i.e. spawn bugs) is illegal" So don't matter if a ADM from EU RMR allowed it, simply becouse an ADM can't change predifined rules... It will change something? of course not '-'

2022-05-16 02:51

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So we expect monesy, a 17 year old star player (in the making) not to use something that gives him an adventage in game that was explicitly approved of by the admins? And now that he asked for permission and got it granted we are going to still be mad at him for trying to use every edge? I would hope we are not as an entire community going after a literal kid for this. He did everything he was supposed to in my eyes.

2022-05-16 08:05

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We dont need to expect shit. The thing is that, despite beeing a very good player and rising star, he knows that it wasn't right, he knows that his smoke fucking cancel the enemy smoke. Thats the point, I doubt that he said "Oh, look at this smoke that cancels the T's smoke and I can see through", can I use this bug abuse, my dear admin? He maybe said "Can I use this "one way smoke?" Thats the point, you guys need to fucking grow a brain, come on. When every fucking team agrees not to use something. This something is patched the same day by Valve. Its clearly a bug, and he clearly abused it. Also the game was super close. 16-12 and he used the bug in what would have been an eco break for the CTs, if G2 lost that round, also at a major. So yeh, m0nesy did wrong, no questions about it.

2022-05-17 04:17

But Valve said that AFTER the fact. PGL had no real way of knowing what Valve would say. They probably just thought "Looks like any other one-way" and just left it at that.

2022-05-16 10:53

2 replies

exactly, PGL probably never had any idea that this glitched the T sided smoke... and probably it was never shown by Monesy to the PGL admins...

2022-05-16 17:27

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Doubt it. If that was the case, PGL wouldn't have allowed it afterwards.

2022-05-16 17:33

yeah I found out a while after making my comment

2022-05-16 03:27

its the same as the borup molly. no big punishment needed

2022-05-16 02:17

4 replies

not asking for a punishment tho

2022-05-16 03:27

3 replies

You're not, but there's many who are.

2022-05-16 10:54

2 replies

an extremely small minority that shouldn't be taken seriously

2022-05-16 11:37

1 reply

Don't know about that. Brazilians can get very aggressive.

2022-05-16 12:07

LUL @ bug abusers apologists

2022-05-16 13:59

He was not smart enough to not use it at all. Just no brain, its the way G2 is.

2022-05-18 18:42

admins allowed him to and it was totally legal, stop crying

2022-05-16 01:24

For what

2022-05-16 00:44

No need to, G2 asked if it was allowed to use before they used it.

2022-05-16 11:30

Investigate for what? They asked if it was allowed before ever using it and were told yes it is allowed

2022-05-16 12:02

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Clearly the incompetent admins didnt know the full extent of this broken game exploit. m0nesy used this exploit more than 5 rounds INTENTIONALLY. The game wasnt replayed, nothing is done about it, its riddiculous. Coaches have been banned for less. This was a very close game and this clearly greatly affected the outcome of the match and the integrity of the major.

2022-05-16 12:06

PGL needs to be punished, they allowed that joke.

2022-05-16 14:52

So this is more important than the cheating problem and 64 tic trash servers?

2022-05-16 02:24

9 replies

yes, because it is front-and-center, everyone sees it. if someone started ragehacking at the major maybe valve would do something about it then

2022-05-16 03:09

1 reply

lol actually even then they might not give a shit source: my brother forsaken

2022-05-16 11:00

*easier to fix

2022-05-16 03:10

For cheating the trust factor update essentially solved it, and a 64 tick server update is not as important

2022-05-16 07:00

3 replies

EXCUSE ME??? Getting over LE is impossible in asia without regular cheaters.

2022-05-16 11:00

2 replies

2022-05-16 11:52

1 reply

*cough* check leetify stats.

2022-05-16 12:00

Easier fix because the cheating problem requires a much more intrusive anticheat client. Basically a rootkit that which potentially be able to see every action of your OS, not to mention the possibility of exploitation by unwanted users. This is something valve does not want to force upon players due to the privacy and security concerns and backlash it would create. 64 tick servers run better on older PCs and the server performance difference is small enough for casual players to not care at all. This is why 3rd party services like FACEIT are popular with competitive players. I suggest you check them out.

2022-05-16 07:04

1 reply

even rootkit antixit would be hacked anyway

2022-05-16 10:42

Nice to sth that they fucked up and fixed?

2022-05-16 05:49

3 replies

nah , to get #1 Comment

2022-05-16 06:22

2 replies

Okay that is fine

2022-05-16 07:40

1 reply

have a good day

2022-05-16 12:46

Nice cool to see this first!

2022-05-16 00:30

2 replies

SHAME FOR PGL

2022-05-16 00:49

1 reply

Their product is mediocre and yet they get two majors in a row. Logic screams foul play.

2022-05-16 13:29

Finally, now we need @CSGO more often so we can get everything we want surely.

2022-05-16 00:32

2 replies

It isn't how it you think it works

2022-05-16 00:37

volvo has always fixed bugs like this quickly. Remember when the hitboxes was solved by a player then they fixed it 3 hours later? They refuse to do the research but if theres a solution they are very quick about it

2022-05-16 06:13

nice

2022-05-16 00:30

fast

2022-05-16 00:30

hltv hitting new low with useless articles

2022-05-16 00:30

38 replies

I don't read CSGO patch notes so it was useful to me

2022-05-16 00:33

6 replies

you are very smart you dont read the patch notes (1 row btw) but you read this long ass article which says the same thing but longer

2022-05-16 00:35

5 replies

Lmfao. Well said.

2022-05-16 00:54

no I just read the title and now I know the bug is fixed

2022-05-16 00:59

10 IQ guy tilted after big lose to FURIA

2022-05-16 03:26

This is a news website. It pretty much aggregates the news from other sources, such as official patch notes. I don't see anything "long ass" about this article as well. It just gives a bit of context, and then proceeds to patch notes.

2022-05-16 11:11

patch note > fixed smoke bug article > fixed smoke bug that was used ... but teams agreed not to ... And so in order to ... volvo fixed the bug. They are not the same. It's like complaining about the textbook not showing only the answer but also the way to get there.

2022-05-16 13:14

ogey

2022-05-16 00:33

0/8

2022-05-16 00:35

2 replies

-8/8 to your 0/8

2022-05-16 00:35

1 reply

0/8

2022-05-16 00:37

but this time it was very relevant, so it's justified as a piece of news

2022-05-16 00:46

how is that useless?

2022-05-16 01:02

24 replies

because you can just read the csgo website for update notes

2022-05-16 01:45

23 replies

I visit hltv much more often than csgo website, like seriously who tf uses csgo website? It's only useful when there's some big update with huge changes everyone needs to know about, not MISC changes or fixes for community made maps

2022-05-16 01:52

6 replies

you check the website whenever there's an update to get the update notes

2022-05-16 01:53

5 replies

personally no, I don't, because I'm following different sources related to cs:go which of course will inform its followers about new update and changes in it

2022-05-16 01:58

3 replies

yeah so you're an idiot who decides to go through a third party who just rips off the official source and give them the attention

2022-05-16 03:05

2 replies

Hmm, this is how journalism works. You take something you think your readers are interested in and try and aggregate multiple sources, provide context and maybe an opinion depending on the type of news outlet you are. I would agree with you if they had literally just pasted the patch notes in and not added any other value.

2022-05-16 04:46

you know nothing about journalism and how news media work, right?

2022-05-16 11:35

"whenever there's an update" - so basically, not very often. News: every day.

2022-05-16 08:10

But most people don't read the update notes?

2022-05-16 01:56

6 replies

most people don't read hltv either, whats your point

2022-05-16 03:05

5 replies

My point is that most people who are on HLTV don't read update notes, so this article is a useful service to the HLTV users.

2022-05-16 03:08

4 replies

yeah hltv should just start printing every update log then? if you see the game has an update check the website for the update details, simple

2022-05-16 03:09

3 replies

Are you OK? The use of this bug was a huge controversy less than 48 hours ago, so it's way more relevant to the community than a regular update log.

2022-05-16 03:20

2 replies

It's a pretty minor update, regardless people were checking the official site for update notes before HLTV.org was even a thing.

2022-05-16 04:46

1 reply

We're clearly not seeing eye to eye on this issue, let's just end the discussion here.

2022-05-16 05:22

who the fuck reads csgo website

2022-05-16 03:13

8 replies

the writer of this article had to to get the update notes

2022-05-16 03:19

7 replies

so WE, the HLTV USERS could read about it, its not a crime not to read patch notes

2022-05-16 11:56

6 replies

checking csgo website is so much harder than reading 4 paragraphs right?

2022-05-16 14:00

5 replies

Not everyone reads patch notes my guy, we just play the game, I personally check hltv daily and probably wouldn't have known about the bug fix if hltv haven't posted about it

2022-05-17 05:13

4 replies

thats your fault for not reading update notes

2022-05-17 09:46

3 replies

Why do you think it's mandatory to read patch notes?

2022-05-17 11:38

2 replies

so you know what has been updated?

2022-05-17 12:05

1 reply

what if i didn't want to, i'm gonna be fined?

2022-05-18 10:47

0/8

2022-05-16 02:09

Pog nice

2022-05-16 00:31

CRINGE

2022-05-16 00:31

Pog

2022-05-16 00:31

okaygabe

2022-05-16 00:31

Lol

2022-05-16 00:31

I like how literally everyone except PGL thought that the smoke bug wasn't ok

2022-05-16 00:32

9 replies

I'd say Valve was in on it

2022-05-16 01:00

Pgl must be run by g2 fans or friends of Carlos

2022-05-16 01:11

They run by the thinking of "if one guy can do it, then everyone can do it too".

2022-05-16 06:32

I personally think it'd be fair use just like other one-ways are fair use. It's not like it can't be countered when it happens. It's more about being aware it happens, just like other one-ways. Then again, I think one-ways should be fixed in general, but as long as they're in the game, it's fair use, right?

2022-05-16 11:00

5 replies

Smokes have a lot of fucked up stuff around them 1) one ways 2) being able to see trough some by use of HE's 3) not putting out molly 100% of the time 4) advantage of being inside of smoke So it's weird where do you even draw a line with these, I think it's about the vote and whatever happens but I feel like Volvo could address way more things regarding smokes.

2022-05-16 11:09

4 replies

I personally think they should all be allowed (including this one). Apparently the fix was only for this specific use of the bug, not the bug itself, so it could still be possible in other places. It's also not like you can't counter this one either. Throwing a second smoke negates it completely or throwing the smoke slightly closer to the white panel makes it a lot less useful. Plus you can spam/nade the spot etc.

2022-05-16 11:14

3 replies

I think it's fine for player council to regulate them selves, pick and choose what they find fun and competitive to work around. I also find it weird with some choices, like ability to use skyboxes for utility lineups, that's busted, but I also see that it makes gameplay better as it allows for complex executes.

2022-05-16 11:15

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If I were in G2's position I'd say "Okay, you guys can do that, but I'll just keep using it. What are you going to do about it? Just stop bitching about it and figure out a way to counter me like you would with any other strategy or one-way smoke." Many things aren't a choice but just happen to be the case. Most people also go with the mentality of "If it doesn't benefit me, we will go against it, otherwise we just leave it be." I bet that if it was Imperial who used the smoke, you wouldn't have seen this much backlash. Fun fact: G2 used it against Na'Vi as well when the were behind 14-15 and there was nothing said about it.

2022-05-16 11:19

1 reply

ye, Brazil fans are numerous and loud as fuck. I think G2 did a smart thing to agree on not using it.

2022-05-16 11:43

Congrats to PGL for the excellent work letting a BUG being used normally (contains irony)

2022-05-16 00:32

PGL clowns

2022-05-16 00:32

nice

2022-05-16 00:33

no need fix we need -Mirage + Old cache thats all

2022-05-16 00:33

10 replies

+Old cache + Old cobble

2022-05-16 00:36

2 replies

2022-05-16 00:36

2022-05-16 00:40

-ancient +cobble -vertigo +train

2022-05-16 00:51

5 replies

Huge +1 Both maps are trash

2022-05-16 01:08

valve is not that smart sadly

2022-05-16 01:37

+11

2022-05-16 07:26

+111 Miss seeing both maps in pro games. :( Cache for being very puggy that's great map for mechanically skilled aimers like NiKo, Twistzz, REZ etc that will hit nice deag HS and stuff and also the very fast rotates. Ancient is a good replacement but it's just not ready yet, the bombsites need rework. Train because it's a tactically nice map that plays so different than other maps, it's a boring map for casual play but superb for high-tier pro games. Lots of interesting stuff happened in tournaments on this map.

2022-05-16 13:28

1 reply

Since you mentioned Cache I will add de_season. I like both. A lot. Cobble has that vertical element that plays well. At the same time verticality doesn't deliver on vertigo. To me vertigo is bad because it seems there is just one way to each of Bsites. Boring.

2022-05-21 14:15

2022-05-16 05:45

PGL clown fiesta

2022-05-16 00:34

pixelbug smokes are allowed but pixel boosts not? nice logic volvo

2022-05-16 00:34

PGL vs ESIC, which one is the dumbest org?

2022-05-16 00:35

2 replies

both

2022-05-16 00:36

Add valve in the mix

2022-05-16 01:19

nice

2022-05-16 00:35

a coach not able to participate, day before a major. a bug used against a team who lost a match due to that. Against everyone and everything… they still live to fight

2022-05-16 00:35

12 replies

well imperial got screwed two times now for things they could not have done anything about and they still are in the 1-2 pool of the legends stage when everyone counted them out in the first match of the challenger stage :)

2022-05-16 00:48

2 replies

exactly.

2022-05-16 01:15

I also find it funny how everyone is saying that G2 needed the smoke to win vs Imperial. It probably went more like this: "Hey, we used it in the game against Na'Vi, so people will figure out we have. Let's take advantage of the fact that it's still new and people don't know how to counter it yet and use it as much as possible in the next game." Props to Imperial. They're playing way above expectations. But to say that Imperial would've guaranteed won the game if G2 hadn't used the smoke is a bit much. G2 would've had a different approach that might've even been more effective.

2022-05-16 11:04

bruh imperial wouldnt have won either way lmfao

2022-05-16 01:31

6 replies

apparently, you haven't watched the match. Crucial first weapon round, apart from that, Imperial got pretty strong throughout the whole match. 1 lost round changes all. Expected you knew CS a bit.

2022-05-16 01:44

1 reply

You are also assuming that if they hadn't used the smoke, G2 would've lost that round, which you can't know.

2022-05-16 11:06

Dumb guy detected

2022-05-16 01:56

you clearly didn't watch the game. The round he used the bug basically won the match

2022-05-16 02:32

1 reply

2022-05-16 03:44

You never know, G2 won both pistols, used a bug and m0nesy had some insane clutches too, still it was a close match.

2022-05-16 04:37

That didn't make them lose the next 14 rounds after that particular one. Maybe 1 or 2 at most, which still only brings them up to 14 total.

2022-05-16 05:35

1 reply

only brings Imperial up to 14 total, but gives G2 14 at max, duh. There would be at least 2 more rounds, with a tied game, nobody knows what could have happened on these 2+ rounds.

2022-05-16 07:41

nobody expected that from Valve.

2022-05-16 00:35

But they told me that is just a one way and BR fans are overreacting??

2022-05-16 00:40

2 replies

well, br fans were overreacting but it's still a dumb smoke

2022-05-16 01:29

Valve just decided they didn't want it in the game after realizing it was in there. Doesn't change a thing.

2022-05-16 11:08

valve can be fast wtf?!?

2022-05-16 00:41

1 reply

+1000 #Major #Money

2022-05-16 01:14

PGL didnt even thought about consulting valve before allowing this bug?? They should have a protocol for this. When someone ask to use a bug the first thing they should do is report it to Valve. This shit was so easy to fix, wtf they needed less than a day.

2022-05-16 00:41

3 replies

All they did was fix the location, not the actual issue.

2022-05-16 01:49

PGL is a joke of an org, still don't know why they chose them again to host the major after the last one, their decision to allow the bug abuse is so stupid that it made valve fix a bug in record time

2022-05-16 03:57

That's not how it works though. That would mean that for every little thing you have to consult Valve and that's just not how Valve have their Majors. Valve are a very hands-off company and will only step in when a situation like this occurs. They tend to only react to events that get a lot of community backlash. Doubt they would've cared if it was asked before the community started malding about it.

2022-05-16 11:10

imperial still got screwed

2022-05-16 00:43

Cheater

2022-05-16 00:44

3 replies

astralis biggest cheaters with nvidia and radar

2022-05-16 00:46

2 replies

and aimlock lol

2022-05-16 01:38

stop crying

2022-05-16 10:07

valve: gets information about the coach bug and doesn't fix shit for years until it blows up in their faces also valve: fixes an unimportant smoke bug in a few hours

2022-05-16 00:46

9 replies

same shit went with the astralis/glaive radar abuse thing, they only moved after it went viral.

2022-05-16 00:49

coach "bug" was server problem, valve can't fix a "bug" that stems from incorrect cvars

2022-05-16 01:49

unimporant??? with that bug you can kill everyone on mid even if the TRs smoke window, actually it's even better to the CTs using this bug than the window being without any smoke, that shit was OP in a whole different level

2022-05-16 04:15

4 replies

it is unimportant because of the gentleman's agreement, so who cars.

2022-05-16 09:29

3 replies

Doesn't mean it can't be used. I personally would still use it.

2022-05-16 11:15

2 replies

yeah sorry but i don't really care about your games mate :D and i don't play mirage myself, so i don't care for my games as well.

2022-05-16 11:48

1 reply

You know it's not a Mirage-specific thing right? And I meant "If I were at a Major, I'd still use it, because I don't have to listen to what other teams want."

2022-05-16 12:06

Maybe its unimporant in your silver matches, cus u guys probably dont even smoke window anyway,

2022-05-16 04:34

1 reply

yeah as if you ever played a match where this bug was used bro, stop bullshitting. And it is unimportant because of the gentleman's agreement.

2022-05-16 09:28

bUGESY sm0ke

2022-05-16 00:46

Cheating shit. This way he gives other Russians bad reputation. Young but already cheating. Shame.

2022-05-16 00:48

2 replies

s1mple did the same

2022-05-16 01:39

1 reply

They always shove it under the rug.

2022-05-21 14:11

Actually nice and fast from volvo

2022-05-16 00:48

good work. now remove all one-way-smoke bullshit. thank you very much

2022-05-16 00:51

1 reply

2022-05-16 00:53

Ban monesy

2022-05-16 00:51

players knew this bug and they didn't report it

2022-05-16 00:51

that was surely fast

2022-05-16 00:52

just mirage? the overpass one too? pls explain in further details

2022-05-16 00:53

2 replies

I think this should work for every situation this bug happened

2022-05-16 00:57

1 reply

2022-05-16 01:10

Get rekt bugesy

2022-05-16 00:54

lol

2022-05-16 00:59

Sad to see it. I was expecting Imperial to use it against everyone, but they didn't even get the chance to counter-attack.

2022-05-16 00:59

Very good ty volvo

2022-05-16 00:59

nice one volvo

2022-05-16 01:05

Fuck adms pgl

2022-05-16 01:07

Holy cow that was fast...

2022-05-16 01:09

Valve finally starting to care about cs.... what a shocker

2022-05-16 01:09

unexpected volvo actually fixing bugs fast

2022-05-16 01:09

Bout time

2022-05-16 01:11

Now valve should fix all the other utility related bugs right? Like the ancient and vertigo molotov.. On a second though..No ones cares about those because it didn't happen against Imperial, so it never caused drama! Hypocrites :)

2022-05-16 01:13

3 replies

more like BR is the only region that would cry about it kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

2022-05-16 01:24

1 reply

yes, you're absolutely correct, then the bandwagon international players joined in xD

2022-05-16 02:51

please hydrate after all the crying

2022-05-16 01:40

PGL Shame M0nesy Shame

2022-05-16 01:14

Bugesy 7/20 next game

2022-05-16 01:16

Things got really ugly for bugesy (g2 big investment). So.. better fix it fast.. and then try to forget about it.

2022-05-16 01:24

Bug in coaches screen.... 1 year ban Player did a smoke with a bug... okay, I will fix that, no problem.

2022-05-16 01:24

6 replies

are you talking about peacemaker? wasn't he freeroaming consciously? without permission?

2022-05-16 01:31

2 replies

All coach bans, not about one. Most of them didn't even know what was happening, they stayed in the spawn and still got banned. I believe that coaches who used the bug to take advantage should be banned. Not all of them.

2022-05-16 02:18

guerri was banned for nothing, not attending this major still, some coachs bans are messy

2022-05-16 03:19

coach bug didnt ask permission keep crying

2022-05-16 01:41

2 replies

M8 theres coaches that reported the bug while it happened to them and didnt abuse it, and still got banned. Meanwhile m0nesy knew that it was a bug, he had the audacity to ask an admin if he could abuse a bug and nothing is goin to happen to him.

2022-05-16 04:29

1 reply

He's a kid that knows shit, but there's a huge org with experienced players and a coach that knew and didn't care. They should've told him to stop, but let the kid ruin his image to get a couple of wins.

2022-05-16 09:22

pgl is pathetic

2022-05-16 01:28

4 replies

pgl had nothing to do with this

2022-05-16 01:40

3 replies

they are pathetic for allowing the smoke bug

2022-05-16 01:41

#101

2022-05-16 03:18

they allowed the smoke bug to be used without telling a thing to Volvo

2022-05-16 04:17

Imperial may be desclassified unfairly for losing 4 rounds to G2. This rounds probably made some difference. Every adult knows bugs can't be abused, there are rules about it. A lot of coaches have been banned recently for abusing bugs. It's not fair to not punish G2 for this action. The minimal punishment is to rematch. But lose the map and declare Imperial winner at mirage it's not unfair. Something must be done to protect fair game and championship integrity.

2022-05-16 01:29

Good job!

2022-05-16 01:32

wtf? valve actually fixing a bug quickly? it must be a glitch

2022-05-16 01:40

nice

2022-05-16 01:45

xDdd

2022-05-16 01:47

thx

2022-05-16 01:51

i wonder if pgl will update to it, i doubt tho

2022-05-16 02:08

4 replies

they use the latest version :D

2022-05-16 04:41

3 replies

They would change version during the competition ?

2022-05-16 04:42

2 replies

they said it on their twitter

2022-05-16 04:43

1 reply

nice good news

2022-05-16 04:43

good, ppl crying helped xd

2022-05-16 02:08

thnk u m0NESY

2022-05-16 02:12

good now g2 will defineterly go 1-3

2022-05-16 02:13

And now punish G2 for using the bug!

2022-05-16 02:18

Thank you Valve <3

2022-05-16 02:33

-God 1 vs 4 clutch against MIBR -God 1 vs 3 clutch against NAVI in a major -Makes Valve release a patch in the middle of a major Kid is going to be the goat of this game

2022-05-16 02:34

1 reply

Scapegoat

2022-05-16 05:57

Poggers

2022-05-16 02:52

Good job valve

2022-05-16 02:52

A Guy From the futur ; Baitef lost his mental health during a match in juin 2022, he was baiting hard like always and suddenly lost his mental health and cannot stop to bait even if the match was ended, of course he was baiting for nothing , everybody left. But he cannot stop baiting and nobody was on the server . After that He completely retired from pro scene . The legend tell that he s still on the server , on inferno , baiting the chickens and himself .

2022-05-16 03:05

astralis things

2022-05-16 03:06

RIP mayonesi aka bugnesi

2022-05-16 03:06

Awesome, can't wait for the update aimed at solving CS:GO's cheating problem...

2022-05-16 03:15

3 replies

imagine 128 tickrate or being able to play MM with 2 guys on both teams playing HvH....

2022-05-16 03:18

2 replies

They should just introduce a new mode called HvH so hackers play that and we can play competitive and wingman in peace

2022-05-16 05:29

1 reply

community sv have a ton, yeah just make it official or workshop at this point

2022-05-16 05:44

SHAME ON MONESY TO MAKE SUCH A CHEAP MOVE. No sportsmanship.

2022-05-16 03:36

1 reply

Cheaters are cheater

2022-05-16 05:56

I didn't wathced the match where he used it, but I just look on youtube and damn, that bug is cheating for real.... Olof boost was a kids playing besides this bug, acually Olof boost on Overpass was not a real bug, just a mechanic thing from the game, but this smoke.... and if I not mistaken Fnatic at that time got some real punishments, what about G2 now?

2022-05-16 04:20

6 replies

Nah they had Valve PGL permission beforehand to use the smoke. And now the groups are gathering lynching virtually the promising talent for that. You should probably revalue yourself with that negative attitude. Especially when you're not even joining to watch the game but will be pleased to involve into the drama around it afterwards.

2022-05-16 04:27

2 replies

I didn't watched the game but I watched the bug on youtube just like I said. And c'mon, everyone can see that this bug is a really match changer in a BO1, you can see all the mid without the enemies being able to see you and the only price you have to pay is a smoke... PGL is just out of their mind allowing this bug and as you can see Volvo fixed it in only 1-day time, if they didn't saw any problem in it they wouldn't fix it, at least not that fast... PGL probably didn't contacted Volvo at all bcuz any sane person would know that this bug is a "texture abuse", something that is forbidden to use in a major

2022-05-16 04:38

1 reply

Exactly

2022-05-16 06:56

The reason is because the olof boost happened on DH so good tournament organizer which cares about their own rules, while this was on PGL which is probably the worst major organizer we had till now, they just greenlighted it because they don't care enough to enforce their own rules. Kinda clown move tbh

2022-05-16 05:27

2 replies

There was no rule against olofboost. But DH cared for the integrity of the game Cuz they came from a gamer perspective not from a poor Romania TO that does everything for money

2022-05-16 05:54

1 reply

+1 also this is illegal according to pgl's rules and they don't even do anything against it

2022-05-16 08:14

Actually I'm pretty sure that you can't use “texture abuse” according to the Major's rules....

2022-05-16 04:26

3 replies

It falls under the texture clipping rule, but PGL never enforce their own rules, cus doing nothing is easier.

2022-05-16 04:41

So would that mean it's a bannable offense?

2022-05-16 06:55

1 reply

If the admins think that they did it knowing that is against the rules, yeah. But they allowed it beforehand even if it was against their own rules so they cannot ban some team for something they allowed at the same time that it goes against their rules (it's like a police officer saying you can punch him and after you punched him he catch you to prison), well at the end of the day we come to the conclusion that PGL is a clown fiesta

2022-05-16 15:33

LOL rofl

2022-05-16 04:32

CSGO community was like: "BR's are overreacting, crying, it isnt even that bad, just an usual one way smoke, everybody knows about it" 1 day later Valve fixes it, LMAO.

2022-05-16 04:40

2 replies

The outrage is totally fair, asking for rematch or ban for actions allowed by admins for some reason, no matter how dumb the permission was, is overreacting and crying.

2022-05-16 05:39

1 reply

Then fire Pgl right away. And if you say this isn't possible, valve did it at shanghai major in Dota... Fire the TO during the event

2022-05-16 05:52

wtf valve fast fix

2022-05-16 04:54

Actually impressed how quickly they fixed it, more of this please Valve

2022-05-16 05:26

Unexpected. Well done, Valve!

2022-05-16 05:39

It was the first full buy for Imperial. If not that bug exploit, the result of the match could have been different. Monesy wouldn't be able to pick middle and the match would have an open full buy third round. That's disgusting.

2022-05-16 05:41

2 replies

Valve is shit Pgl is shit And players like monesy are shit. If you need such a set up bug to have a chance you are a noob player.

2022-05-16 05:51

This

2022-05-16 07:50

Well Imperial fans can only hope g2 go 1-3 and get eliminated then it will be a bit of justice

2022-05-16 05:57

1 reply

Im not imperial fan but I hope they go 1-3. They also did the bug against navi when navi was winning 15-14.

2022-05-16 06:53

Valve itself calls it a bug, but PGL doesn't give a s. It's against PGL rules to abuse bugs, and not will happen. Clowns.

2022-05-16 06:04

finally everyone can relax

2022-05-16 06:14

Damn, fast working Volvo. Thats new. PGL admin is the reason for this whole drama. Monesy did everything right tbh, as a new guy he asked admin for this, he said its aight and suddenly community sh!ts on him..

2022-05-16 06:25

4 replies

Sometimes when something is "legal" it doesn't mean it is right. And that here is the case and that nobody in g2 stopped him tells you a lot about their character. So anyone has the right to shit on monesy and Pgl and valve and g2 and players like niko

2022-05-16 07:43

3 replies

Well, about last part - there is one person who shouldn't talk sh!t about Niko. This bathtub guy who lost 1v1 to a woman. context - twitter.com/DonHaci/status/1525809446823..

2022-05-16 07:48

2 replies

But he won vs niko So he lost 1vs1 vs women but won 5v5 vs niko So niko lost to a guy who lost to a woman. Woman >cadian > niko LUL

2022-05-16 10:18

1 reply

Niko: - 6 times top20 player of the year. - 7? times tournament MVP - won many tournaments, onLan and online Bathtub guy: - 0 top20 player of any year - 0 tournament MVP - won 3 tournaments in his life, all of them Online :D Its not like I don't like Cadian but he svck at this game, he's classic online till he proves different and he screams like 13yo girl. Well, and he takes baths with his male friends and post in online.

2022-05-16 12:33

Since valve patched the bug so quickly proves it shouldn't have been allowed to be used. PGL should've asked valve if the bug was allowed and there is no way they would've.

2022-05-16 06:52

Love how they can fix smoke bugs in 20 minutes but can't fix spinbot detection in 10 years.

2022-05-16 06:53

3 replies

2022-05-16 07:11

probably because game is on 10 year old engine and source code got leaked lol they need to upgrade to source 2 asap

2022-05-16 07:11

1 reply

my man, there is a reason faceit doesn't have spinbots and it has nothing to do with source 1. Valve can easily detect someone staring at the ground and getting a 5k.

2022-05-16 07:12

It’s no coincidence it’s always against Brasil

2022-05-16 06:59

2 replies

But bugnesy did it vs navi first I think ?

2022-05-16 07:17

it's no coincidence it's always brazilians crying Fixed

2022-05-16 08:31

now just fix the 32402 other bugs Volvo especially wall clipping guns

2022-05-16 07:08

Volvo did something Pog

2022-05-16 07:17

They forgot to mention that PGL will be still played on the old client, because these are the rules that they created

2022-05-16 07:25

1 reply

OMEGALOL

2022-05-16 11:37

Don't worry Brazilians friends. We know that G2 is not gonna win this major. I hope Imperial & G2again meet in playoffs & play fair.

2022-05-16 07:26

No one needs to be that smart to know that this is a bug. It's a smoke that CANCELS another smoke and gives you a one-way with free kill opportunities on mirage's mid (which is a very important spot on the map for you to control). Monesy asking PGL admins exonerates him from the guilt by the rules, but doesn't exonerate him morally. In times that we seek for a fair game, we should fight for fairness. This is not skill, this is not training, this is just a bug abuse, which is cheating, only this time 'allowed' by the admins. If monesy (and other players, and the scenario as well) fought for a better environment for CSGO, he should have warned Valve, made a video, posted on youtube, shown this live on twitch, etc etc etc. If even so Valve had given no shit, then screw everything, abuse it to show Valve's incompetency globally, live and on a major event, but at least you tried all the means for a fair game. It was a 2x0 situation, with TR full armed against 2 famas and 2 mp9. The CTs won the 4th round as well. This game finished 16x12. Without this bug, maybe the game would've been 14x14 and the history could've been different. Once again: admins allowed it, so monesy is not wrong by the rules. What he did was legit, but completely imoral. Not a role model to be followed

2022-05-16 07:29

How about PGL punish this bugesy putting hm in a boxing fight with fnx or fer for at least 3 rounds

2022-05-16 07:42

That was strangely fast.

2022-05-16 07:49

dad (valve), is that you?

2022-05-16 07:53

G2 - Imperial should be replayed

2022-05-16 08:09

m0nesy is a fucking scammer. even if he scammed opposite team for one round. still mental scammer

2022-05-16 08:15

gaben cares

2022-05-16 08:32

WOW VALVE IS NOT SLEEPING

2022-05-16 08:39

as i said earlier, its perfectly fine, perfectly fair. The show must go on and everybody is happier than never.

2022-05-16 08:53

BR fans will find something else to cry about no doubt

2022-05-16 08:59

The amount of morons on here.. XD

2022-05-16 09:37

but fact that VAR jumps like a mad Volvo is not interested ...

2022-05-16 10:30

1 reply

Fr lmao

2022-05-16 11:15

finally people will stop crying for nothing

2022-05-16 10:32

Valve rekted PGL and bugesy.

2022-05-16 10:39

The hate BR gets for being on the right side is disgusting. y'all are pathetic.

2022-05-16 11:03

wtf :d Valve :O so fucking fast

2022-05-16 11:17

Since competitive FPS started, players where always encouraged to find new ways to get advantages over opponents. Aim training takes time, tactical training takes time and searching for gaps, smoke bugs, new tactics and innovate, etc etc etc, also takes A LOT of time and a lot of effort and intelligence. Players should not be penalised when they find and present/take advantage these bugs and any changes should be handled after the events and not on the middle of them. This kind of behaviour will only encourage teams to play the exact same tactics, all the time and never take risks and innovate on this…. In turn CSGO will become even more boring than it already is… Teams just have to adapt and also take advantage of this. Never, in the history of Quake, cs 1.5 or cs 1.6, a patch was released to fix a bug in the middle of an event, players just had to handle these things… I don’t agree with this.

2022-05-16 11:36

1 reply

Dude, this game is about real life special-ops... A smoke grenade doesn't make another smoke grenade disappear in the real world, they mix up... If you want to have ability to gain non real life related advantages, go play Valorant...

2022-05-16 14:33

Valve working on a week-end? Nice.

2022-05-16 11:36

lmao, remember people using this bug already years ago, idk how it wasn't fixed till now...

2022-05-16 11:47

if it is fixed, it was a bug. What happens in the rules for those that abuse a bug? Even PGL should be punished.

2022-05-16 14:15

Such BULLSHIT! Then fix ALL the ONE-WAY smokes!

2022-05-16 14:56

1 reply

true this shit shouldnt even exist

2022-05-21 14:21

Its a bug. The fact that m0nesy (or his team) had to ask if it was legal its already shady. You know it's a bug when you have to ask if its legal, wtf. Just the thought alone should be the answer. Basically everyone defending m0nesy is coping with that, say what you want. Game developer threated as BUG, PGL decision sucks and they won games because of it and nothing will happen. Lets see the cloud9 punishment for match fixing now, I bet nothing will happen. Joke administration.

2022-05-16 17:05