BIG send clear message to murmurs as tabseN and gob b extend deals until 2027

29-7-2022 12:00

Two faces of German Counter-Strike will remain with their home organization for at least five more years.

BIG announced on Friday that two of their key figures in their coach and their in-game leader, Fatih "⁠gob b⁠" Dayik and Johannes "⁠tabseN⁠" Wodarz, have extended their contracts with the German organization in a five-year deal lasting until 2027.

"After being with BIG as founders and shareholders for more than five years, we have set the course for the next five years," BIG CEO Daniel Finkler said in a statement. "I'm very pleased to announce that we have renewed the contracts with Johannes "tabseN" Wodarz and Fatih "gob b" Dayik until 2027."

The move quells a rumor that has spread in the past week after Ukrainian veteran and coach Sergey "⁠lmbt⁠" Bezhanov stated in an appearance on Oleksandr "petr1k" Petryk's podcast that he had heard the German duo could be joining G2 in place of Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen and Rémy "⁠XTQZZZ⁠" Quoniam.

tabseN and gob b sign five-year contracts (Photo courtesy of BIG)

tabseN himself took to Twitter afterwards and played up to the murmurs briefly before making a clear statement on the matter when he said that he would never "abandon [his] child," referring to the BIG organization, in which the in-game leader as well as gob b are co-owners.

Both members have been a part of the organization since its inception in 2017, with tabseN now playing in his sixth consecutive year under the Berlin-based side, while gob b has fulfilled several roles both as a team member and in the organization, recently having returned from a stint in VALORANT in May to take up the position of the CS:GO team's head coach.

Friday's news means the two staple members have reinforced their commitment to BIG for a whopping five years at a time when the team is looking to find some stability heading into the new season.

Recent events saw the German side have to utilize former teammate and now academy player Nils "⁠k1to⁠" Gruhne in place of Karim "⁠Krimbo⁠" Moussa and Josef "⁠faveN⁠" Baumann due to illnesses. The latter is still yet to recover after he missed out on the playoffs of the Roobet Cup, where BIG emerged victorious, and IEM Cologne, where the team was unable to make it past the Play-in stage in a disappointing end to the season.

2022-07-29 12:00

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G2 crying:(

2022-07-29 12:01

20 replies

tabsen wasted talent

2022-07-29 12:02

14 replies

best jerman player

2022-07-29 12:04

8 replies

bye bye murmurs

2022-07-29 12:11

6 replies

Careful it's president of india

2022-07-29 13:27

5 replies

5 years contract? Furia flashback

2022-07-29 16:09

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Tabsen very smart, he is 27 and soon to become washed up, he literally scammed BIG, already planning to paycheck steal in future years when he consider to retire

2022-07-29 17:45

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You don't know the payout per year. Also to be retired from your trade at 30 means you have an incredibly short career. Smart move by tabsen.

2022-07-29 18:19

Scammed the org he own? Partially

2022-07-29 20:36

yess

2022-07-29 19:56

By far

2022-07-29 14:13

tabsen actually biggest kid? baiting ppl (0/8 btw) on twitter lmao xd by staying in big hes wasting his own talent lmfao...😋

2022-07-29 14:02

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tabseN biggest rent free tenant in your head

2022-07-29 14:51

tabseN biggest bot on LAN

2022-07-29 14:58

tobson living rent free in hltv admins u mean babygirl ;-) look how many threads i opened about him......zero, none, sifir, cero, nul, bok.. capish?

2022-08-01 12:19

Wasted talent xd Still better than playing and losing with ChoKo.

2022-07-30 15:27

Why should we cry xD, we know BIG won't win big events, unless it's online ofcourse.

2022-07-29 14:37

At least Big won something

2022-07-29 16:22

im sorry is that a g2 fan talking?

2022-07-29 22:36

Hey nice csgo scene btw, first country to have an official dead scene, round of applause

2022-07-29 23:54

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wuuuuuuuu bark bark

2022-07-30 08:02

No tabseN No BIG. tabseN <3

2022-07-29 12:09

murmur?

2022-07-29 12:12

stop replying to first comments braindead kid

2022-07-29 18:52

murmurs who???

2022-07-29 12:27

mama

2022-07-29 12:49

expected

tabseN: i don't like winning

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big have won far more tournaments than g2 in the last 4 years

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prnt.sc/3hpk7__fp4Ek i only see 3rd and 2nd places.

2022-07-29 12:03

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lan filter checked, big rekt

18 replies

so they only win Online shit lul thats not even impressive.

2022-07-29 12:05

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that's what I was saying my man

2022-07-29 12:07

It is better than winning nothing...

2022-07-29 12:14

At least they won something

2022-07-29 12:16

same as cheatroic ?? For some reason online gods and lan bots ... you could be on the scale bro, get yourself checked out...

2022-07-29 15:52

What

2022-07-29 16:04

still doesnt change the fact G2 won nothing in the past 4 years

2022-07-29 17:02

name + flag

2022-07-29 17:17

They are living their best life and they are getting paid a ton That's a big lan W

2022-07-29 12:21

Yeah they are onliners. Especially their awper syrson which is obviously a really good player and will get there on lan eventually

2022-07-29 13:02

Well and to proof your point ... hltv.org/stats/players/7266/syrson?match.. hltv.org/stats/players/7266/syrson?match.. Oh how can that be? Almost same stats on Lan then Online oO

2022-07-29 15:48

hltv.org/stats/players/7266/syrson?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/7266/syrson?start.. "almost same stats"

2022-07-29 16:00

Your range is too high, look at a more recent comparison I don't think Syrson is BAD on LAN by any means, but he definitely doesn't have close to the same impact as his hard carry online

2022-07-29 16:06

You linked two filters that are both LAN…

2022-07-29 17:29

2022-07-29 21:05

Cool and G2 can't even win online

2022-07-29 15:41

how many this online shit you win clown ?

2022-07-29 16:01

even if online, BIG has have still one more than G2

2022-07-29 21:36

hltv.org/stats/teams/events/7532/big

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who cares about online shit? Literally everyone can beat everyone online because of no pressure from the crowd or anything like that. They even won against FaZe wich they would never do in a milion years on LAN infront of a crowd.

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they won against faze on lan 2 months before the event btw

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2 months before wich event????

rmr

they played LAN without a crowd so less pressure.

2022-07-29 14:35

ok i just said where they lost

lmao why do you emphasise crowd 3 times already like its the biggest challenge in csgo

2022-07-29 14:42

Bro karrigan gets a crowd buff it's literally so unfair

2022-07-30 12:34

roobet

2022-07-29 12:31

everyone except g2 lul

2022-07-29 14:59

Literally over 75% of the LAN games also have no crowd, you're just in a different office. How many games were played in front of a crowd in Cologne? 5. Out of 29. And that doesn't even include the Play Ins, that were also played on location.

2022-07-29 16:10

+1 unless its dreamhack open (now esl challenger), the large majority of matches played at a lan will NOT be in front of a crowd

2022-07-29 21:38

Same as G2 in recent times whats your point?

2022-07-29 12:37

They won one this year, that's enough to be better than G2

ahah nik0 - not ch0king and actually winning pick one

i pick NiKo not choking and winning.

not possible

I'll be back after Blast Major and prove you wrong.

i hope i hate ch0k0 memes

i pick ahah

2022-07-29 13:07

smart

2022-07-29 13:08

Tabsen one of few players with integrity, huge respect for him

2022-07-29 13:33

Holy fk lol

Nice

there goes g2 tabsen

unfathomably based

i am murmur

nooooooo :(

I love tabsen

Oh my god, 5 years? :D will be Berlin International Grandpas in 2027

yes, so strange like anyone in cs would compete for tabsen if 1-2 years lol

2022-07-29 14:41

Honestly my comment was more about Gob B, he is 35 already, so in 5 years he will be 40 years old :D

2022-07-29 16:26

gob b is a coach, so who cars

2022-07-29 17:09

Not saying he has to be young. Just saying he will be old af then, lol

2022-07-29 17:19

Looool

good for him

Five years? dang

5 years of paycheck stealing

rip career because they can never upgrade this roster since there are no germans on the scene they reeeeally need to go international

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sorry bro i know youre mad that tabsen wont go to G2 but this BIG roster shows more potential than this G2 "roster" xD

2022-07-29 12:43

1) I'm not, I literally said that I hope BIG itself goes int 2) worst G2 beats the best BIG on LAN

1)hoping big goes int which suggests you think the roster isnt working out when in fact it shows more potential than the G2 "roster" 2)that is just an objectively false statement

2022-07-29 12:51

time will tell lol if you care this much about arguing over a roster that didn't even play a single game yet, it shows your insecurity

2022-07-29 12:52

tbf a G2/Big mix with Tabsen/Syrson/Krimbo/Hunter/Niko would literally be my dream

2022-07-29 14:36

Why no faveN? :( He doesnt show off that much but is probably he most consistant player on BIG.

2022-07-29 17:42

it had to be between Krimbo and Faven dont get me wrong faven is amazing aswell but this roster could use a more support like player

2022-07-29 17:59

2) worst g2 beat worst big on lan. Kito field for Faven or krimbo.

2022-07-29 13:32

BIG Academy is second best academy team, in a year some trials might be possible. Just look at Krimbo

2022-07-29 15:29

bro is Francesco Totti of Counter-Strike

lmfao +100000

2022-07-29 12:44

yeah lol

2022-07-29 13:05

That is actually a good comparison. Wrong poster to answer to but oh well.

2022-07-29 13:43

stole it ftom striker :/

2022-07-29 17:43

accurate lol :D

2022-07-29 13:47

wdym

2022-07-29 14:45

Totti stayed in Roma for 100 years too, instead of moving to bigger clubs

2022-07-29 15:43

2022-07-29 15:58

By 2027 the game will already be dead

cs go 2 will be out so idk

2022-07-29 14:46

Why so serious

2022-07-29 16:20

I respect Tabsen for not switching to G2 and keeping german cs afloat

2022-07-29 12:06

Respect honestly

WOAH thats a big contract

ez for tabsen when there is absolutely no upcoming talent in germany

How is there no talent? BIG Academy is literally second best academy team after mouz. Krimbo just came out of nowhere and already plays decent CS.

2022-07-29 15:18

Yea cus theres no talent in academy league

Hyped? Such a great awper, Aqua aswell.

2022-07-29 17:44

who who

2022-07-29 17:51

BRUH

<3 this birthday present came 2 weeks to late, but i still appreciate it :)

bruh

2022-07-29 12:08

Xyp9x 2025 never forget

gobig

tabsen is a german goat

kick tizian

Tabsen so dumb

Respect.

Bro these long ass contracts are so dumb ...

Why? You do know that Tabsen and gob b (and LEGIJA) founded BIG, right?

2022-07-29 12:13

Dont care , xyp founded astralis now he will drag them down for the rest of his 5 year contract , Tabsen will stay good for few years but never 5

2022-07-29 12:19

They'll just get him a new position in the org when they want to replace him. They already did that multiple times for Gob b and Legija

2022-07-29 12:25

Dont think they are trying to "juice" whatever is left of him , just longer contract so they can get a buyout from another team if he ever wants to leave

2027 holy shit

2027?????

dadseN and daddy b :3

why tabsen not joining to team that have the potential to reach finals and win trophies

Like g2 Kekw

2022-07-29 12:20

not g2 bot maybe og or something like that

2022-07-29 15:30

Imo BIG could potentially win trophies. Every now and then they have a tournament or at least part of a tourney where they show that they could beat the best. And then they all of a sudden lose their flair and dont make the big playoffs

2022-07-29 15:24

ReSpect , man doesnt give up

2022-07-29 12:15

tabseN at 2027 with 0 LAN trophies

2022-07-29 12:17

He won DH Leipzig already though?

2022-07-29 13:30

Respect

2022-07-29 12:18

Greedy Pro Gamer: € 5,- - € 10,- for a profile sign. tabsen: only for channelpoints. impact over income. That's why I love him.

we all love the KAISER!!!

2022-07-29 12:28

Oh no, I don't like where this is going.

based

2027? holyyy shiet

5 years wtf

people rly dont understand that tabseN's #1 priority is to build the german scene, hes well known here and seen as one of the main pillars.

2022-07-29 12:23

So many downvotes for saying tabsen will never join g2 - well, Last laugh best laugh

2022-07-29 12:24

very based

2022-07-29 12:26

They must really love that ORG.

Both incredibly based and incredibly stupid

HLTV starts a rumor HLTV stops a rumor What would we have done without them...

We didn't start that one ^^

I first heard about it on HLTV podcast with Pimp. So if you didn't started it then you just amplified it and spread the rumor to over 100k people. How many people knew about this before? Effectively HLTV started it :)

2022-07-29 15:13

I get that, but we literally started that conversation saying we're pretty sure it's bullshit

2022-07-29 15:16

Why do you spend valuable podcast time on the bullshit then?

2022-07-29 15:19

the B word D:

2022-07-29 16:33

What is this title striker

man i really wanted tabseN to be a IGL on g2. I really think that it would fit, especially because he's good friends with egoistic NiKo & m0NESY, so the 1 thing they lacked with aleksib was chemistry which tabseN could have fixed and his a impact IGL aswell. It would have been a fresh start for G2

G2 in the mud, rejected by tabseN as expected by me…. But hey I also predicted G2 HooXi but some people were telling me G2 was not gonna sign HooXi

2022-07-29 12:29

Respect And Guys, that doesn't necessarily mean Tabsen is playing the next five years. When the time comes he can switch to coaching or even take on another role in the org(more in the Background). They both seem really committed to BIG, wouldn't even surprise me, if they planning some positions there, after their active career.

2022-07-29 12:30

BIG moves, expected af tho

2022-07-29 12:32

murmurs

2022-07-29 12:33

Murmurs and meowmeows

2022-07-29 12:35

Murmurs :DDDD

+1, lol'd

Very sad, tabsen is ruining his career

tabsen carrying german cs singlehandedly

2022-07-29 12:40

bodied my idol carlos

Murmurs meowmeows

Oh boy!

2022-07-29 12:41

Achievement for Tabsen : Roobet cup 2022 ( online ) More about getting money while he own a part of BIG. Keep going, you are right.

Literally a loss for both teams i think

2022-07-29 12:45

Virtus.pro vibes coming along with this one

2022-07-29 12:46

They must offer more company % for them to stay. Huge win for both of them if they manage to get into top 3 and therefore build the org further

2022-07-29 12:47

CSGO is a 10y.o. game, it maybe won't even exist in 2 years. Should've signed 10-year contracts.

doubt it will fall off completely in 2 years, maybe 5

2022-07-29 12:55

Until ESL earns tons of money for their monopoly, they try to make a picture that CS is very popular (I also love this game and obv. it's way better than other competitive games). But man, the game is outdated tbh.

2022-07-29 13:39

5 years of choke lan events. But maybe just maybe they will win something online

2022-07-29 12:57

Nice, BIG has only been getting better lately

That's 5 years, that's longer that XiwUu

2022-07-29 12:58

G2 fans malding haha

2022-07-29 13:01

typicial 30 y.o farmer paycheck stealers here

What a troll.

2022-07-29 13:03

Weird title

+1 weird use of words

2022-07-29 13:11

god tier title, kind of a shame but gl tabsen

it was their "expect the unexpected"

2027 ??????

2022-07-29 13:09

signing super long contracts in csgo is pretty stupid... have fun losing for 5 more years.

2022-07-29 13:10

Longer contracts usually mean they are paid more. And atleast tabsen had a sizeable share in BIG too. Its literally partly his org. Ofcourse he will play there.

2022-07-29 13:16

Not true. Longer contract means they are paid less but are GUARANTEED money in the long run. Also if BIG started to get REALLY BAD and can't rank above 30, you are screwed and have to stay with a loser team. There might be stipulations in his contract allowing him to be bought out so I could be wrong but that's rarely the case with these SUPER LONG contracts in eSports.

2022-07-29 13:20

You dont realize orgs can terminate contracts lol go read up how it works. Most often than not they are, and thats why orgs can hold players.

Really depends on the contract.. long term contracts usually dont have the chance to opt out, reason why they do long terms.

2022-07-30 17:58

They're German, there are no better teams to sign. Just like FURIA players signed 5yo contracts in 2019 as well.

They are the heart of BIG. I like to see them stay :) +rep for striker for using the word "murmur"

2022-07-29 13:14

32 year old tabsen and 40 year old gob b will be destroying the scene

2022-07-29 13:24

Rip tabsen

2022-07-29 13:28

Pog

2022-07-29 13:34

2022-07-29 13:37

very nice move as org a project centralized around a great player BIG Academy as feeding machine for the great BIG team

2022-07-29 13:38

No, it isn’t a good move. It’s an act of desperation.

2022-07-29 13:42

People never learn. 😔

2022-07-29 13:40

DAMN

Love tabsen but BIG never gonna win a big tournament

2022-07-29 13:52

Prefer to see them stay in BIG! good luck!

honestly good contract for tabsen and gob b, they are in the end stage of their career and will have long secure years ahead even if they fall off

2022-07-29 14:03

gob? I think he's only getting started mate!

2022-07-29 14:08

i love it!

2022-07-29 14:07

CS IN 2027 LUL

2022-07-29 14:11

5 year contract? That means only 1 thing - complete disband in 15 moths inc.

sad to see tabsen waste his talent on big

2022-07-29 14:12

TabseN wasted talent ...

2022-07-29 14:14

Still kinda '' sad '', would have liked to see tabseN give a top team a go. G2's firepower would juste have been nuts with tabseN. And NiKo would have had an IGL he respects... Si probably would have been more compliant ... Whatever... :(

2022-07-29 14:17

haha write history? BIG losing in every tournament and can't even reach quarter-finals lul

2022-07-29 14:18

Lol nice

2022-07-29 14:22

There we go, at least he's honest and now we know that he doesn't care about winning big titles when he says this: "Tabsen said that he would never "abandon [his] child," referring to the BIG organization". The guy just wants a smooth ride throughout his career and whatever happens - happens, and doesnt want to get out of his comfort zone to try and join another team to see if he could achieve bigger results. This would really be cool to see monesy, niko, hunter, jks under tabsen's supervision, but aint happening.

2022-07-29 14:23

What a poor ass business decision to posture against G2. How dumb are the people that run these orgs? A 5 year extension in CSGO? No wonder so many of these orgs fall into disaster so often. And these two clowns smiling while they sign. Both are good at what they do, but how is a 5 year deal prudent?

2022-07-29 14:31

Makes sense, any rumour regarding TABSEN changing his role besides moving to BIG management was either retarded or wishful thinking, a lot of times both.

2022-07-29 14:32

2027 wow

5 years is a lot of time wow

2022-07-29 14:34

That's a long contract :o gl to the guys but BIG probably needs some changes first to start winning.

Bruh. I mean, i get that you want to stay at BIG TabseN but why on earth would you extend for that long? lol.

2022-07-29 14:57

A man on a mission, not many men with integrity like this remaining nowadays. True values are lost, money is all that matters. Sad world but there is hope. Biggest respect for tabseN!

2022-07-29 15:14

Bro. Having loyalty to a org doesnt mean you have to write a 5+ year deal lol. We know what happend the last time an org signed 5 year deals *cough* Furia *Cough*.

BIG seems to be a much more stable environment. I don't see why not if it's his home. And for the org it just makes sense, he is the heart of the team.

2022-07-29 15:22

The only player who affected by that was AbleJ the rest is fine

2022-07-29 17:41

So what if it was 1 or 20 players affected? Signing more than 3 years = Stupid

Maybe he has plans to be coach or some management role in the future. This guy is really all in for german CS

2022-07-29 15:42

what if cs is dead in 2027 just sayin

wont happen

2022-07-29 21:04

i know

2022-07-30 00:20

Based

2022-07-29 15:11

wasting his career tbh

2022-07-29 15:12

Glhf onliners...

respect

2022-07-29 15:21

when adidas sponsor?

It’s a clear message to murmus! Lmao

2022-07-29 15:26

Respect the BIG project. They are an example for their scene, to believe that german cs isn't dead and motivate young players

Big is smart, they are gambling on another pandemic, so everything goes online again, and online gods with lowest ping bcs german servers, will be title contenders once again

2022-07-29 15:44

R.I.P G2 Now they will sign another shit igl like alex of hooxi

Get owned G2

2022-07-29 16:27

sick

-murmurs +tabseN ?

2022-07-29 16:37

Love his dedication to German CS...even though he clearly deserves better but more power to him👍

2022-07-29 16:40

BIG NiKo BIG huNter BIG m0nesy confirmed

2022-07-29 16:42

GIGABRAIN!!!!! Step 1: Don't let G2 buy your key personell Step 2: Buy G2s key personell HOLY HELL MEN WE CRACKED THE CODE!!! BIG fans stay winning!

2022-07-29 18:11

Good. They are key people for BIG

2022-07-29 17:00

oh captain, my captain

2022-07-29 17:05

zamn!

2022-07-29 17:06

EZ MAJOR

+100

2022-07-29 18:09

2022-07-29 17:11

German insecurity at display here, nobody wanted to sign either tabsen or gob b. Lol xD

2022-07-29 17:14

1. EU flag talking about insecurity laughing_mediteranian_man.jpg 2. You know nothing.

2022-07-29 18:10

Fake flagger or why so offended? 1. Cry more 2. The whole news point is just confirming what I said

2022-07-29 18:14

bug clan

2022-07-29 17:22

tabsen is the definition of an Ehrenmann

literally the biggest manchild in existence lol

2022-07-29 17:38

Kinda unpopular opinion but mad respect to the guy. Won't sell himself for money. The brotherhood is real. Yeah he may not win anything but such a decision requires guts.

Tabsen needs a better awper.

32 y.o. tabsen in 5 years

He won a mickey mouse tournament and got 5 years contract not long after that, just imagine if he win a tier 1 LAN

2022-07-29 17:52

Can't trick BIG. Let's go mens. #GOBIG Hope they'll continue in getting better results on all connections so us delusional big fans have more to celebrate.))))

2022-07-29 18:08

gob b will be 40 yo in 2027 :DDDDDD

2022-07-29 18:20

why would any org commit to a deal this long? the player could completely drop off in less than a year for all they know

2022-07-29 18:58

obviously they know each other very well

2022-07-29 20:23

I feel bad for him. The dude is a tier 1 player that haven't achieved nothing, besides good money.

2022-07-29 19:04

He's helped develop the German scene, he managed to bring BIG to the top of the CS world and reach #1 on HLTV rankings even if it was short lived. This most recent iteration of BIG with FaveN and Krimbo actually look decent but haven't had a lot of time together. For some guys its not about just joining a superteam, I respect the grind Tabsen has committed himself to while choosing to stay loyal to German CS

he could have been in a tier1 teams but he chose to carry his team to t1 and he did, they haven't been consistent t1 but they have managed top1 and a lot of titles, its more pleasure than playing in a t1 team imo.

2022-07-29 20:25

What titles?

2022-07-29 20:30

they won 3 big tourneys in a row some time ago

2022-07-29 20:40

They won one relevant title, and it was Dreamhack Master Spring 2020 that's it.

2022-07-29 21:08

cs summit was kinda big as well with G2, old vitality and heroic

BIG does not feel like BIG without Wabsen, its a W imo

2022-07-29 19:41

Tabsen and gobelante will never let German community down , goBIG

Nice. I like consistency.

2022-07-29 20:08

Huge sign, no doubt they will reach at the top again, God ß and godsen, huge fan here.

2022-07-29 20:20

LEGENDS

2022-07-29 20:29

tabseN BASED

Überragend paramount. you guys doing a tremendous job! thanks!

2022-07-29 20:45

Hope they go international.. players like syrson, krimbo won't win you shit tabsen.. wake up please. go international, its time!

2022-07-29 20:59

dude, krimbo is 19yo. I think he has the potential

2022-07-29 21:03

He may be 19 yo but he doesn't have that spark.. The spark which you know players like m0nesy, b1t, or to lesser extent spinx has.. they need to go international asap.

2022-07-29 21:35

idk, he had had some great games after he was promoted to BIG. but time will tell

2022-07-29 21:45

retirement home lol

2022-07-29 21:41

now who will say shut up to niko ?

2022-07-29 21:54

cant believe people actually thought tabseN would ever leave BIG lol fantastic extension, love you tabseN <3 heres to more tournament wins

2022-07-29 22:27

most wasted talent ever

2022-07-29 23:22

gotta give it to germans. they keep trying to achive something in cs go for 10 years now. no other country failed so much and kept trying. kinda funny, too.

2022-07-30 01:22

How so? They are way better than average. They havent won a major but several other tournies and were ranked #1 for weeks. Not many other people can say that about their team.

2022-07-30 20:15