Spinx on joining Vitality: "It wasn't an easy decision, all the ENCE guys are really good friends of mine"

Fresh off his move from ENCE to Vitality, Lotan "⁠Spinx⁠" Giladi discusses the motivation behind the change as he heads into his debut with the new team at BLAST Premier Fall Groups.

In one of the most high-profile moves of the summer off-season, Vitality swooped in to upgrade their firepower following a disappointing first half to 2022, as they replaced long-time member Kévin "⁠misutaaa⁠" Rabier with 21-year-old star rifler Spinx.

The Israeli player had made his name in a year-and-a-half-long stint with ENCE, now being touted as one of the best riflers of 2022 so far following a run that saw the Marco "⁠Snappi⁠" Pfeiffer-led squad go on several deep runs in the first half of the year.

We had the chance to talk to Spinx and ask him about why he decided to make the move in a video interview from Copenhagen, where the new Vitality are about to play their debut with the new signing during the three-phase BLAST Premier Fall Groups event.

Spinx explained why he said yes to the Vitality offer despite ENCE having had better results in the first half of the season, and explored differences between the two teams and their in-game leaders, Snappi and Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire.

You can watch the interview in the video above or see the full transcript below:

Spinx, this is a new look for you. How are you getting used to that?

I guess normal, right? I'm not doing anything special, just getting into this new team, new organization.

Tell me about this decision to leave ENCE. You've had quite a big history with the guys, a year and a half, and leaving all of that behind. How difficult was it to make that decision?

It definitely wasn't an easy decision when I found out Vitality were interested. It wasn't like "I want to go, I want to go," but after some thinking I decided that I'd prefer to go. Yeah, it wasn't an easy decision, all the ENCE guys are really good friends of mine, a lot of good memories, but this is it I guess, right? Now I have a new team, new people to meet, new friends, and a new organization. So far it's been good and I hope it will keep going good.

Leaving ENCE behind wasn't an easy decision, Spinx says

I don't think it's a stretch to say that ENCE have had a better year than Vitality, so can you elaborate on why you made the jump?

There were some factors, but one of them was that Vitality have a BLAST partnership, which is super important for CS:GO overall. They have players like ZywOo, and we all know ZywOo, right? Every international team would want him. Of course, they have a lot of really, really experienced players, and I thought it would be good for me.

Do you see this team as a better chance to grab the titles? That's something that ENCE obviously wasn't able to do even though you got pretty close a couple of times - was that the biggest driving factor?

Yeah, I just thought to myself that it would be a better chance to win a trophy. That's the most important thing, after all.

Does it also come with a bigger paycheck?

Hmm... I don't want to talk about it (laughs).

Fair enough, fair enough. How much time have you had to catch up? You guys had a break I'm sure, so how quickly were you able to get back into things?

After the player break we have a six days bootcamp in France and after it we had a bit of pracc days back home, and that's it.

How are you getting used to the team so far?

It's definitely new, I don't think moving into a new team is easy. You have different people, a different atmosphere, also different roles and a lot of stuff, but I think I'm doing pretty fine.

apEX said the roles are perfect now in the team. Has it been that easy to fit in in terms of positions on the map and stuff like that?

It depends on the map, but on most of the maps, yeah, I have mostly my roles. Some maps, no, and it's completely fine, I need to learn new roles, that's it.

Spinx shared that ZywOo was one of the reasons why he made the move to Vitality

What about from a system standpoint and from the way apEX calls compared to Snappi, for example? What kind of differences do you see between the two teams? Is there something that you've had to get used to?

I think with Snappi we had a lot of calling from spawn, kinda. We knew what the wanted to achieve in this round, a B split or whatever. With apEX it's a bit different, you can start the round, but the round can end in so many ways.

We're at BLAST, where you guys have quite the chance to play a lot of different teams. What is it that you're trying to achieve in your debut?

Overall, definitely winning a tournament. I don't have a set timeline for this, but definitely winning a tournament, go deep in every tournament we can, go to playoffs, playing in front of crowd, qualifying to the Major, do good in the Major and... Yeah, just go deep in every tournament and maybe win some.

What about here specifically, your first tournament together - do you have high expectations or are you taking things slow?

I don't think we have any expectations. We know that everyone has some different roles, we need to get used to it, they have a different player. It's the first tournament, it could go really good because sometimes you have a honeymoon, but it can go kinda bad, as well. It's fine, I think we'll just do our best and learn from the mistakes.

France Kévin 'misutaaa' Rabier
Kévin 'misutaaa' Rabier
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
465
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.66
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
2003
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
Denmark Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1591
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
Israel Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
442
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
agreed
2022-08-18 17:38
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#18
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Brazil flytw4tp
he doesn't look motivated zywoo ma boy help him
2022-08-18 17:47
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Straight Gigachading is spinx bout to ownage everyone
2022-08-18 19:41
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respect the grind
2022-08-18 17:38
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3 replies
+1
2022-08-18 17:45
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Yeah. He defenitely knows his worth and the possible high he can reach
2022-08-18 18:11
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#115
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United Kingdom Enticles!
he put in the work, and is reaping the rewards. whether or not Vitality will do better with him, is yet to be seen. but comparing the 2 orgs Vitality is definitely a step up in terms of support, structure, and probably salary. hoping to see him continue to smash teams in the new squad.
2022-08-18 21:49
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Vitality will fail
2022-08-18 17:38
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#15
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India DG_1998
no
2022-08-18 17:41
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I believe so too
2022-08-18 18:30
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7 replies
i believe that u lost all hope cuz of NiP's form
2022-08-18 20:30
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#112
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Dominica JesusSG
I believe so too
2022-08-18 21:12
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5 replies
#5 in world, what you at
2022-08-18 22:58
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4 replies
#121
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Dominica JesusSG
Have you seen rankings? Astralis is #4 and Movistar #6 ranking is broken right now
2022-08-18 23:03
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3 replies
Well there really isn't any other team that should be above NiP. I guess the new line-ups of G2 and Vitality might, and probably the old of Ence, but right now it really is fair to say that NiP is #5, and that's not something to mauld about imo
2022-08-19 10:53
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#146
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Dominica JesusSG
True, I'm just busting your balls
2022-08-19 11:13
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#155
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United States Wabba
i would confidently put Navi, Faze, Vitality, Ence, and C9 above NIP. And you could argue G2 and Astralis. I got NIP at the Heroic, Mouz, and BIG tier
2022-08-21 00:04
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#130
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Nepal Voicon
Hopefully you are right, you are so desperately in hope :)
2022-08-19 04:06
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Ok
2022-08-18 17:38
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#5
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North America soduk_db
5th. I'm a legend.
2022-08-18 17:39
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17 replies
pathetic
2022-08-18 17:39
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pathetic
2022-08-18 17:40
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pathetic
2022-08-18 17:44
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pathetic
2022-08-18 18:50
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#73
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North America soduk_db
pathetic
2022-08-18 18:52
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pathetic
2022-08-18 18:55
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pathetic
2022-08-18 19:09
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pathetic
2022-08-18 19:56
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pathetic
2022-08-18 20:19
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#116
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Sweden nathanel
pathetic
2022-08-18 22:01
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pathetic
2022-08-18 22:21
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pathetic
2022-08-19 01:37
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pathetic
2022-08-19 03:34
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not pathetic
2022-08-19 07:32
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#136
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North America soduk_db
+1 Thanks for the backup man I was starting to feel bullied a straight hate crime up in here
2022-08-19 07:40
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Legendary!
2022-08-19 08:06
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unimpressive
2022-08-20 17:52
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He looks like sexy version of Golden
2022-08-18 17:39
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6 replies
Why does this comment make so much sense ahaha
2022-08-18 17:55
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TRUE LULE
2022-08-18 18:44
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wtf you are 100% right
2022-08-18 20:06
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#101
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Argentina Saazu
lol 100% true he is taller and leaner
2022-08-18 20:17
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1 reply
Spinx tall???? Hello police, yeah I am getting baited over here!
2022-08-20 17:53
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#147
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frozen | 
Slovakia RetardedCat
+1 omg
2022-08-19 11:14
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#7
Faceit level 6  | 
donk | 
United States larrypotato
god
2022-08-18 17:39
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Hard to hear what he says
2022-08-18 17:39
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It wasn't an easy decision but money up front
2022-08-18 17:39
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2 replies
And playing with Xi Wu...
2022-08-18 17:42
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1 reply
Imagine how ZyWoo will barely understand what Spinx is saying due to the latter's speech problems
2022-08-18 17:46
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degster giving paragraph responses while Spinx be mumbling one-liners.
2022-08-18 17:40
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3 replies
#28
NiKo | 
Brazil Nero7
one is a arrogant cocky guy (in a good way) and the other one is visible regular guy that is probably a bit shy in his intereviews, understable
2022-08-18 17:46
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2 replies
#47
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Czech Republic JameS_19
Is it possible to be arrogant in a good way tho?
2022-08-18 18:08
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#64
NiKo | 
Brazil Nero7
Humility can feel soft at a time when problems are hard; it can make leaders appear vulnerable when people are looking for answers and reassurances. Arrogance can actually be positive. Think about arrogance in a different mindset: living your life on your own terms. taking up a stand for something, and being independent. It’s about breaking the stereotypes and stepping outside of your comfort zone. Arrogance plays an important part in being stubborn, where you can become so determined to achieve your aspirations and there’s no means of stopping you. In order to achieve greatness, you absolutely cannot be passive. Instilling a philosophy where you shield yourself from being controlled will help you in different walks of life. It’s important that you make sure that in this process, you don’t end up hurting others — or yourself. Remember that some of the greatest leaders in the world followed these same principles in order to achieve their goals.
2022-08-18 18:36
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Good move. Right?
2022-08-18 17:41
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Not particularly encouraging
2022-08-18 17:41
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1 reply
Dupreeh and magisk are not top20 players, it's normal that he is not hyped to win tournaments when half the roster is mediocre and picked only based on success far in the past
2022-08-18 20:16
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#16
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Poland bigmilk01
what a chad
2022-08-18 17:42
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hard + bad decision but more money so good for him, for now
2022-08-18 17:42
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6 replies
hard + bad decision hard yea. bad? not rly
2022-08-18 18:33
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5 replies
i dont know, i feel like ence would've been better for him as a player, and i also feel like this move makes ence worse than it makes vitality better of course its an upgrade for vitality but who knows how spinx can perform with less space, i doubt he will perform like he did in ence
2022-08-18 18:35
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4 replies
-vitality is way bigger org and vitality with spinx has imo way higher potential than ence with spinx. -vitality have clearly no problem to spend money to upgrade their lineup for the future -better salary -vitality will shake roles(confirmed) and spix is lurker. he will have his space its win for spinx in every possible way
2022-08-18 18:38
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3 replies
Not really if he doesn't get along with this team. It's a big unknown how apex malding will impact. Sure to be different than playing with snappi
2022-08-19 04:14
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Every lineup change is a risk... But I don't think that fear from failing should stop players from taking good offers from big orgs
2022-08-19 08:58
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I guess you missed Snappi malding when they sucked crazy the last few months.
2022-08-19 12:07
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money money money
2022-08-18 17:43
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#21
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India DG_1998
He is looking so good with vitality jersey.
2022-08-18 17:43
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he betrayed his friends
2022-08-18 17:43
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wtf???? how the fuck do You call that "betrayed" even they wished him luck... its normal when a player want to step up for a bigger org and higher potential.
2022-08-18 19:11
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3 replies
traitor with no honor
2022-08-18 19:15
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2 replies
ok! cry :)
2022-08-18 19:26
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1 reply
Sorry
2022-08-18 22:54
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Should have stayed in ence, playing with friends > playing for a paycheque
2022-08-18 17:43
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Somehow yes, but i really understand why in esports or sports in general people will go for the higher paycheck, afterall, their career is pretty limited(tho they do earn a lot of money especially in football), they can become irrelevant in 2 years if they lack motivation so they might as well earn a lot until then and lets be real, even tho ence looked a lot better in this first half of the year, its not an out of this world downgrade, he didnt go to some chinese team who would pay him a lot without winning much like some footballers do
2022-08-18 17:50
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its their job...
2022-08-18 18:57
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you don't know if they were really friends and you don't know how good of friends they were, if they were, ofcourse he says kind words departing a team
2022-08-19 00:47
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Not good enough friends obv.
2022-08-18 17:44
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sure this is why u play so bad axaxa
2022-08-18 17:48
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OFC more money lmao what a question
2022-08-18 17:49
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#32
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
nice Spinx I dont hate you for leaving Ence you deserve the money! and good luck with the performance of your new team, even if its not as good as Ence
2022-08-18 17:51
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feels so wrong :(
2022-08-18 17:52
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#34
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ZywOo | 
Zimbabwe Vizions
" think with Snappi we had a lot of calling from spawn, kinda. We knew what the wanted to achieve in this round, a B split or whatever. With apEX it's a bit different, you can start the round, but the round can end in so many ways." classic apex strategy : "zywoo go kill"
2022-08-18 17:52
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#37
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France bjjthibz
no man, he just points out the fact that Apex calling is more based on adapting to what happens during the round. He can call a B split before the round starts, and then Vitality's lurker kills 2 guys in A in early or mid-round, apeX will definitely change his mind and mid-call an A push, that's all. Remember he's an entry fragger before all, even before being IGL, he used to hard entry, so he needs agressive playstyle, not well-structured over-thought playstyle, like gla!ve for example.
2022-08-18 17:57
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#41
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ZywOo | 
Zimbabwe Vizions
he's saying what over have said before apex's igling is approximate and not meticulous. the same as his playing style. ZywOo gave him an igl career
2022-08-18 18:00
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#142
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France bjjthibz
funny how hltv random users consider him bad igl when csgo pro scene (players, coaches, analysts ...) consider him a top5 igl..
2022-08-19 09:20
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#150
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ZywOo | 
Zimbabwe Vizions
Who consider him a top5 igl? Vitality has never been known for his tactics or teamplay Which players improved under his wing? ZywOo stagnated, misutaa never exploded, Kyojin was broken... apex has always been a tard, you don't become a top5 igl after 15 years of playing entryfragger. He was the worst player on his team skillwise, yet he put himself in the best CT positions.
2022-08-19 13:07
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Now he has two strats! "Zywoo go kill" and "spinx go kill". Or even "Zywoo and spinx go kill"
2022-08-18 18:01
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:( sad to see spinx leave ence but if he wanted it himself nothing ence can do
2022-08-18 17:56
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1 reply
ence is a small org, it had to happen eventually tbh
2022-08-18 23:21
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new gg.bet jersey POG
2022-08-18 17:59
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#44
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Pakistan yuhflowyuh
im such an idiot i just realized fall groups will be on lan :P
2022-08-18 18:01
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#48
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France Diodele
press F for his career
2022-08-18 18:09
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ence runied and vitality now have a chance to win something
2022-08-18 18:20
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#54
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England naDalous
According to Natu, he was the one who wanted to leave and was pushing for it, as though it WAS an easy decision for him... not sure if I believe what Spinx is saying here :(
2022-08-18 18:21
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#56
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France Gabenjaaa
when your decision is made, just go for it, but the procces is sometime not easy
2022-08-18 18:28
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he is a backstabber
2022-08-18 18:24
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holy fuck he looks so handsome in that vitality jersey
2022-08-18 18:28
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His english is even worse than missuta ffs
2022-08-18 18:32
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#60
Faceit level 7 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal dracø
don't think it'll work, but still hoping they prove me wrong
2022-08-18 18:32
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its not going to work out.
2022-08-18 18:39
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#68
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Norway Snaids
I don't like it, but gl in vitality broski
2022-08-18 18:40
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#70
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France Guilsz_
Let's go spinx you're gonna help ZywOo lift that Major fs
2022-08-18 18:47
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#72
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Poland Nalax
so he wasn't a real friend after all
2022-08-18 18:51
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so money > friends ?
2022-08-18 18:52
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its his job...you can "work" in different team and still be friend with them.
2022-08-18 18:58
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He had more chances to win trophy in ENCE literally , especially now with Sun Payus
2022-08-18 19:00
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nah not rly. potential of vitality with spinx is imo higher than ence with spinx.. also vitality is bigger org that has no problem to spend money to upgrade team so its better for the future of spinx and he has higher salary i mean it was obvious decision for him and win in like every single aspect
2022-08-18 19:03
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Good point , im just scared that he's not going to perform like he performed in ENCE , but we'll see
2022-08-18 19:05
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its confirmed that vitality will change their roles and spinx is lurker and probably the second best player in the team... imo he will have his space there and good chance to perform. but like you said we will have to wait and see:)
2022-08-18 19:08
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#127
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
im with you spinx, I am huge fan, I think you can make vitality great again. good luck
2022-08-19 01:00
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I think it went something like "It was a really hard decision but then I saw the paycheck" :) Nothing wrong here tough.
2022-08-18 19:08
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1 reply
You know it
2022-08-18 19:27
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#85
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
unlucky but at least he will get a fat pay
2022-08-18 19:13
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Wasn’t an easy decision lol. Why leave then. Ruined his career on one dumb transfer
2022-08-18 19:27
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1 reply
he did exactly the otherwise...
2022-08-18 19:27
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99% of y'all backstabber comments would have made the same jump
2022-08-18 19:30
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2 replies
ofc they would do the same... people should realize that its their work and not hobby
2022-08-18 19:32
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#107
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France HippzZ
+1
2022-08-18 20:31
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There is no friends in business :), if they offer more money you gotta take it, in 30 years the money will be more important that these clowny friends
2022-08-18 19:31
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#108
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France HippzZ
Even before that, he is a player in a competitive game, he wants to have more chances to win tournaments
2022-08-18 20:32
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1 reply
there is more chances to win with ence, magisk and dupreeh full bots
2022-08-18 20:33
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#94
Faceit level 8  | 
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United States illusi0n[1g]
left the better team ENCE to join this terrible team that only knows how to lose.
2022-08-18 19:41
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1 reply
bigger bag for worse results? hell yeah brother💰💰
2022-08-18 20:12
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#97
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada Lachance
bad move
2022-08-18 20:05
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Thank You for ruining ENCE Spinx lmao Vita won't win nothing
2022-08-18 20:17
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#104
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Europe richwilde
more money = good move.
2022-08-18 20:27
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Everybody wants to play with Zywoo
2022-08-18 20:28
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im surprised that ence did that good with Spinx's diction while giving info (not hating) but its a bit hard to understand.
2022-08-18 20:39
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#111
h4rn | 
China pix3w
60
2022-08-18 20:45
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#113
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Kobs
Offcourse he made the right choice ..vitality will kick any player exectp him and zywoo ..so he is sure to play with some of the best in the futur..unlike ence who can t keep players Vitality will build next team around spinx zywoo and maybe magisk..you guys have too little iq to understand spinx choice ..that why he is there and you stuck in your bedroom
2022-08-18 21:27
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#114
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Finland quton
don't know why he is dodging the paycheck question since that is obviously the most important reason here, confirmed from Ence side too often that they cannot compete with big orgs when it comes to salaries. shame he can't just confirm that was the motivation.
2022-08-18 21:23
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#118
iM | 
Romania Infumee
So he said i came for The money ..i don’t expect to win anything
2022-08-18 22:52
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#122
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
Well, career and money. He did the right decision I think
2022-08-18 23:16
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Money, it was money. Spinx just tanked ENCE and Vitality isn't likely to get that much better. Sure, Spinx is better than Misutaa in every way, but firepower was but one of the several major issues Vitality has. They still need to iron out their communication and get comfortable with the whole international squad thing, and considering Spinx's english isn't all too great, that's not likely to change with just this one decision.
2022-08-19 00:08
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#126
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
Israel RickNRoll
his english is pretty good honestly, if you have a good ear for English you'll probably understand whatever he says even with his lisp. Cause his vocabulary is pretty good
2022-08-19 00:51
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#132
jks | 
Australia FA1TLE
🤑🤑🤑 get your stack spinx
2022-08-19 06:38
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#138
Faceit level 8  | 
YEBAH | 
Belarus nopez
p o t r a c h e n o
2022-08-19 08:57
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#140
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India Rau7n
-apex please
2022-08-19 09:00
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+alwksib
2022-08-19 10:52
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looks like totaly selfish "want to play with them, get experience, fuck my friends who bring me at this point" .. im a bit disapointed about this player, i used to like him. not anymore. hes a new kjaerbye to me
2022-08-19 18:02
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nie pierdol...
2022-08-20 01:02
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oh lol. it was easiest decision of his life. free money by being good at cs and playing with with the best.
2022-08-27 15:28
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