Vitality go 5-0 in Group A; NAVI, fnatic clinch EPL playoff spots

4-9-2022 23:21

The three teams will battle through the playoff stage when it begins on September 27.

Group A of ESL Pro League Season 16 has concluded, with Vitality posting a flawless group-stage campaign after their 2-0 victory over Spirit, knocking the Russian-majority squad out of playoff contention in the process.

Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire and company's first-place finish in Group A allows the international side to start their playoff run straight from the quarter-finals, bypassing the first round of play all together.

ZywOo was in a league of his own in Group A with a stellar 1.45 rating over 12 maps

Natus Vincere guaranteed a place in the playoffs in spite of a three-way tie thanks to their head-to-head map difference over both Ninjas in Pyjamas and Spirit. Hampus "⁠hampus⁠" Poser and co., on the other hand, exit the event from the group stage after a shaky 0-3 start to the tournament left them with few scenarios in which they would be able to progress.

fnatic was able to advance to the next stage of the tournament following their comfortable 2-0 victory against Endpoint in the final round. This event in Malta marked Dion "⁠FASHR⁠" Derksen's LAN debut with the black-and-orange, and the 26-year-old not disappoint, as he boasted a solid 1.09 rating across the group stage — his team's second-highest performance behind Fredrik "⁠roeJ⁠" Jørgensen (1.16).

Endpoint end their time in Malta at the bottom of Group A with a 1-4 record. Max "⁠MiGHTYMAX⁠" Heath's men had an encouraging showing despite this, notably taking a map off of Spirit before upsetting Natus Vincere in a clean 2-0 series to get their sole win on the board.

Group B of ESL Pro League Season 16 will get started on Wednesday, September 7, pitting the likes of FaZe and G2 versus BIG, Outsiders, MIBR, and FTW, with three more spots in the playoffs up for the taking.

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Nice!

2022-09-04 23:22

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gz to Vitality? Nice!

2022-09-04 23:23

what a dumb system in h2h nip beat them, gj ESL ;D

2022-09-04 23:39

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Yeah why navi qualified? Is it new rules? Last time i checked team who won h2h qualified

2022-09-04 23:41

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It’s 3-way tie though, Spirit had two wins as well. Map difference then counts, which Navi won.

2022-09-04 23:45

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Yea. As a Navi fan we def didn’t deserve to make it with how bad the team looked in those losses((

2022-09-05 01:23

It's fine we know it's just unlucky and an uncharacteristic drop in form

2022-09-06 22:08

Nah, it's always been this dumb

2022-09-04 23:53

Had to head would be counted here if it wasnt a 3 team tie, thats why the round diff came in, and its a normal thing.

2022-09-05 00:01

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I havent seen round diff come in to play for a long time. Next tie-breaker after h2h is map win diff

2022-09-05 00:15

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Yea I think only Blast used to use round diff when they had that dumb bo1 round robin no OT

2022-09-05 00:44

navi lost 2-1 won 2-0 nip lost 2-0 won 2-1 spirit 2-0 2-0. Nip just lost more maps navi 3 wins 2 loses nip 2 wins 3 loses spirit 2 wins 2 loses so navi with +1 goes thru

2022-09-05 01:09

yeah, I meant map diff, was too tired to spot my mistake, but the point is the same

2022-09-05 07:59

It's the map difference, not round difference. Although Navi is on top in both the criterias

2022-09-05 07:10

#82

3 way tie you dummy

2022-09-05 00:11

Spirit beat NiP NAVI beat Spirit Nip beat NAVI NAVI has a map difference of -1 (6-7) Spirit has a map difference of -3 (4-7) NiP also has a map difference of -3 (4-7 aswell) So NAVI first (best map difference) Spirit > NiP (Spirit won against NiP) That's how you solve this 3 team ties Also i want to know what would happen if Endpoint won Fnatic (5 teams tie) if someone knows, tell me

2022-09-05 04:42

Probably same thing but with round differential added

2022-09-05 07:07

Navi lost to fnatic and they have same map score, so probably same, excepr endpoint beat navi. Might have actually been endpoint 3rd if they went 2-0 instead of navi. Or endpoint 2nd fnatic 4th, <swapped around if 2-0 2-1

2022-09-05 07:35

exactly, it's not a dumb system.

2022-09-05 20:17

No brainer comment. It's a 3 way win-lose battle which resulted in tie. Navi had more map wins which is the second criteria if it's a tie.

2022-09-05 07:09

now imagine miracle and navi win this event by barely make playoffs

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They now have 4 weeks to practice. If they still suck after 4 weeks they didn't deserve to be in play offs

2022-09-04 23:24

we shall see, but keep in mind... one pracc match after s1mple came back, while other teams might have had tenths... it's really questionable but I hope they recover

2022-09-04 23:29

Yea me too, I hope they be more of a match later in the tournament. Else they could have given the spot better to NiP although they played really bad too for 3 maps

2022-09-04 23:37

i mean vitality had only 6days prac xD + spinx was sick

2022-09-05 00:18

Do you mean like Faze last time?

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i think faze last time lose 2 matches and win all next matches

I don't remember how many games they won last time but they wouldn't get out of group if VP /Outsiders won their last game.

2022-09-05 00:39

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Atleast they beat more than 50% of the teams in their group, meanwhile navi

faze went 3-2 in groups last time and qualified but navi qualified even after 2-3. What kind of system is this where a team qualifies even after losing more matches than it has won.

2022-09-05 07:21

By ur logic only 2 teams wouldve qualified from this group?! Xd

2022-09-05 07:34

Yes sometimes a team goes 3-2 and still doesn't qualify from other groups, like faze in epl season 14, faze went 3-2 and still didn't qualify. If there are no teams that goes 3-2 and doesn't qualify they should play tie -breaker matches to determine the qualification.

2022-09-05 08:26

Obviously imo the best thing esl can do is have 1-2 days between groups so there is time to play tie breakers

2022-09-05 09:09

Wasnt that exactly how faze won last EPL?

2022-09-05 00:45

faze lose first 2 games and win all next

nope faze went 3-2 not 2-3 like navi.

2022-09-05 08:28

Woaaahhhh, they won 1 more match. Suchhhh a hugeeee differenceeee. Wtfffff.

2022-09-05 08:49

When you have only 5 matches, 1 match is significant

2022-09-05 09:50

Thought the same #35

Tbf do you remember the last major ? Faze went to major because vitality won their game against outsiders.

2022-09-05 02:28

What? Faze qualified with a 3-1 score (W Eternal Fire W Vitality L BIG W MOUZ) in the Europe RMR A If you refer when they almost didn't qualify it was Stockholm major, they needed one of four (ence, riders, cph flames or fiend to end 8th) and they qualifyed when G2 beat Fiend (forcing cph flames or fiend getting 8th spot) by that time Outsiders still playing as Virtus Pro so you are wrong in everything

2022-09-05 04:48

it was epl , my bad.

2022-09-05 04:50

Ye i was thinking at EPL too, so you are right anyways mate

faze went 3-2 and qualified, navi are 2-3 and qualified not the same thing.

2022-09-05 07:26

Sure, if you like to cope like that. Both struggled and they still win the event. It doesnt deserve prove anything. For a faze fan: navi are dogshit rn The epl faze saga : jet lag, ruff groups, 3-2

2022-09-05 14:23

lucky... they are bad...

nice to see vitality playing good

NaVi barely scraping by, weird to see them have group stage troubles, hopefully recover for playoffs

NaVi played like sh*t but did just enough to qualify. Classic. Now they need rest and a lot of practice. "electronic go kill" calls from electronic will not be enough in future matches.

NaVi don’t show strategiess for major

VITALITY LALALALALALALA VITALITY

LALALALALALLALA VITALIIIITYYYYY

2022-09-04 23:27

VITALITY LALALALALALA

2022-09-05 00:27

2022-09-05 02:49

LALALALALALALA VITALITY LALALALALA VITALITY

2022-09-05 12:44

Navi didnt deserve playoffs They look really shaky

To be fair, we had 3 spots for playoffs, and only two teams in face of vita and fnatic played well enough to deserve spots there. As for that last spot, every other team that could take it have played like shit most of their matches, so be it navi, or nip, or ts, noone really did deserve this last spot.

2022-09-05 00:06

Yeah NIP deserved it fr :>

2022-09-05 09:21

even if nip won the h2h they don't deserve sh*t in this group they were complete garbage at the beginning it took them playing Endpoint before even winning a map

2022-09-05 10:55

I know, but your fellow Frenchmens thought nip or spirit deserved it more.

2022-09-05 12:26

Ez for god zywoo and god spinx

2022-09-04 23:25

Advancing with a 2-3 record should be illegal..

+1 let Endpoint go through instead of Na'Vi

I believe Navi are the only team to ever qualify from EPL groups with a 2-3 record, so it's already pretty rare

2022-09-05 23:54

it's actually insane that Vitality went 5-0

2022-09-04 23:26

Especially considering that they had like 1+ week of practice

2022-09-05 00:02

expected from god zywoo and spinx

ez4apEX

NAvi fluke getting the spot So unfair

It’s nothing if just lose to Nip, they lost to endpoint, a big ton of shit

2022-09-04 23:31

Bye NiP

2022-09-04 23:35

NaVi too good even without winning, what a wasted win by NIP :)

2022-09-04 23:38

Navi actually making it here is kind of a joke ngl... They def didnt deserve it. Spirit played better and even nip would've deserved it more for bouncing back... Oh well. At leas VITALITY played well!

Nah, Spirit didn't deserve playoffs

2022-09-04 23:43

No one between navi, spirit , endpoint and nip really deserve their last spot. They play like shit. The only two legit team are fnatic and vitality.

2022-09-05 02:31

EZ4NAVI

2022-09-04 23:46

THANK GOD THEY MADE IT Pls no more baiting Navi :(((

2022-09-04 23:48

5-0, nice #VforVictory

2022-09-04 23:57

as a navi fan i have to say if two teams have the same amount of points, the result of the matchup between this two teams should be the first point to look at regarding the placement in the group

2022-09-05 00:05

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Which is the case.

I think he meant that NaVi vs NIP should've been a match for qualification regardless of other scores

2022-09-05 00:19

Why, when there's a three way tie with Spirit. F*ck them cause they played earlier? Not very fair

2022-09-05 00:28

imo there should be 3 games and 2 qualification games for the 2-3 place, 3-4 place

2022-09-05 01:27

That's exactly how it is. Smh

2022-09-05 08:52

i guess my bad, from what i understand it is a three-way-tie so a direct comparison makes no sense right?

2022-09-05 10:44

Yes, exactly

2022-09-05 11:06

it makes sense but it's more complicated. For instance if NIP would have won NAVI and spirit, direct comparison : NIP takes the place. But if NIP>NAVI, NAVI>Spirit, Spirit>NIP (which is the case here) we take the number of map won by each only between the three teams. as Navi won a map again NIP, they won a total of 3 maps in the 3-way confrontation. NIP and Spirit only won 2 (2 for nip facing navi, 2 for spirit facing NIP) So Navi get the spot.

2022-09-05 13:33

EZ FOR GODWHOO 1.45 RATING POG

2022-09-05 00:17

What happened to NaVi? Looks like they were partying the whole week after 2 victories.

2022-09-05 00:24

S1mple and B1t played like shit so that explains a lot I think.

2022-09-05 11:57

NAVI is laughing… and partying for 2 wins only…

2022-09-05 00:43

VIta crazy showing!

2022-09-05 01:37

Good job Roej I'm so proud

2022-09-05 03:33

Good guy Xiwu saving S1mple from elimination

2022-09-05 03:40

My boys fantic making it happen lfg

2022-09-05 04:34

NAVI still number 1? What a joke. HLTV sucking navi orgs dick. Navi die hard fan.

2022-09-05 05:02

if simpel continues like this, no #1 2022 for him if zywoo continues like this, easy #1 2022 for him

2022-09-05 05:36

2022-09-05 12:28

Ez for GOAT S1mple

2022-09-05 05:45

No goat

Ofc no goat but GOAT

2022-09-05 12:35

In an ideal world esl would have at least one day between groups so they have time to play tie breakers instead of counting round diff

2022-09-05 07:39

+1 only the one who truly deserve advances

2022-09-05 09:24

2022-09-05 12:09

vitrashlity

flair

2022-09-05 10:59

yes

2022-09-05 11:34

PLay tie-breaker matches u cowards

2022-09-05 12:02

Zywoo #1 again with a good team. Faze #1 Vitality #2 And they are the 2nd best team in the world. Good times for GodWoo and Vitality

wtf was that interview with s0mple after winning the match by NIP ?!?! I got used to situation where casters never say a bad word about s0mple no matter what low performance and lack of skill he represents, but srsly is this whole tournament fixed or what? After last matchfixing NAVI v Endpoint I have like zero trust in EPL as well as NAVI as an organisation.

2022-09-05 13:55