Vorborg: "Pure firepower wouldn't fix our core issues; [it] might be a bandaid"

The Evil Geniuses head coach shared insight into the team's latest change with fans on Twitter.

Daniel "⁠Vorborg⁠" Vorborg, head coach of Evil Geniuses, took to Twitter on Wednesday to offer transparency and insight on the organization's process and train of thought regarding their decisions, opening himself up to questions from the public.

The Dane started by acknowledging that "most of the criticism, skepticism surrounding our EG Blue team is warranted," and added that the point of him sharing was not to make excuses or tell people they shouldn't be skeptical.

"We've earned that skepticism, and we need to live with it," he continued. "It's on us to prove we are worth believing in, but I want to provide as much perspective as possible."

Vorborg shared why EG chose to pick up refrezh over an EG Black player

Many questions were asked about the team's recent addition of Ismail "⁠refrezh⁠" Ali, who was first linked with a move to the lineup nearly one month ago and has now arrived to take the place of Jadan "⁠HexT⁠" Postma.

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Specifically, Vorborg was questioned on why Evil Geniuses looked towards European talent rather than at North America, or even at their own EG Black players. It was a point that even Mohan "⁠launders⁠" Govindasamy raised in a series of tweets, with Vorborg directly answering the inquiry both in that thread and in replies to similar questions he received directly.

The 30-year-old Dane explained that the skillset that EG was looking for was not something available to them in North America, stating that the roster's "core issue has always been initiative/leadership, and we didn't expect bringing up another blueprint player would fix that."

He added that while Vincent "⁠Brehze⁠" Cayonte and Timothy "⁠autimatic⁠" Ta have experience, they lack the specific sort of leadership that the team requires. He later clarified that this didn't mean that Sanzhar "⁠neaLaN⁠" Iskhakov would no longer be the in-game leader, but that his style of calling works better with more opinionated players who can take the initiative.

"The way neaLaN likes to call gives a lot of responsibility to the players around him, so he works the best with players around him that are comfortable making tough decisions," Vorborg explained. "He doesn't like to spawn call/micro[manage] as much as others." He also added that his belief was that teams "preferably need ~3 leaders" and that since neaLaN came from outside of tier one, the team had needed an adjustment period.

In touching further upon refrezh's addition, Vorborg stated that the Danish rifler was "the best teammate I've ever worked with," and that he was a leader both in the game and an emotional leader "when the going gets tough."

Vorborg says refrezh brings a level of initiative and leadership EG needed

In other tweets, Vorborg explained that refrezh, like neaLaN, would not move to North America but would travel and bootcamp frequently with the team. He also explained that the team's travel schedule and tournament obligations made it difficult to play tier 2-3 opposition and smaller events in Europe to get experience, but that their focus at the moment was on playing as many officials at the moment no matter the results.

Vorborg also said that it was hard to spent months building lineups due to the organization's status in the scene, and that was part of the reason they opted for someone more experienced. However, he also stated that team's goals are not oriented towards results, but rather day-to-day improvements and fixing mistakes as a whole.

He spoke on Jerric "⁠wiz⁠" Jiang's performances and the potential of adding Paytyn "⁠junior⁠" Johnson as well, saying the latter player had only just joined the EG Black roster, while the former hadn't had enough time to prove himself yet.

"He didn't have much time, and we're now spending a good amount of resources on him - the RMR was a marked improvement for him, and I expect he continues in that direction." In a different tweet, Vorborg didn't rule out future changes either: "If we don't perform, don't improve we're in a business where our jobs aren't safe - mine included."

United States Vincent 'Brehze' Cayonte
Vincent 'Brehze' Cayonte
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1241
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1102
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
Kazakhstan Sanzhar 'neaLaN' Iskhakov
Sanzhar 'neaLaN' Iskhakov
Age:
22
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
1151
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.70
Canada Jadan 'HexT' Postma
Jadan 'HexT' Postma
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
618
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.68
Canada Mohan 'launders' Govindasamy
Mohan 'launders' Govindasamy
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.76
Maps played:
3
KPR:
0.57
DPR:
0.76
United States Jerric 'wiz' Jiang
Jerric 'wiz' Jiang
Age:
22
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
620
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.64
United States Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
556
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.59
United States Timothy 'autimatic' Ta
Timothy 'autimatic' Ta
Age:
26
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1247
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
#1
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United States zovint
Refrezh Savior of EG LETS GO #EZ4EG
2023-04-13 00:48
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1 reply
it would certainly help though
2023-04-13 00:52
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not wrong. but having some firepower would help lol
2023-04-13 00:47
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I think maybe EG is cursed
2023-04-13 00:48
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2 replies
i think the management is terrible
2023-04-13 00:49
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1 reply
it is also true i feel like EG team is like being on the Costa Concordia
2023-04-13 01:02
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#4
NAF | 
United States 3van
-wiz -brehze +junior +jeorge
2023-04-13 00:49
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11 replies
+1
2023-04-13 02:16
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#43
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United States vip3r_k1ng
+0.5 i think jeorge deserves a chance but how many times must junior be tried and fail at higher level cs?
2023-04-13 03:59
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9 replies
Still better than wiz tho
2023-04-13 07:12
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At this point EG isn't tier 1. Perfect team in which he can prove him
2023-04-13 08:25
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#87
NEO | 
Poland Breno5
bruh EG isn't higher level of CS
2023-04-13 17:21
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6 replies
#88
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United States vip3r_k1ng
?? Going from the secondary team that plays cash cups and T3 qualifiers to the main team that plays in pro league and actual main events isn’t a higher level of cs?
2023-04-13 19:42
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5 replies
#89
NEO | 
Poland Breno5
yeah, its not. They are playing on such good tournaments because of their money (official it has its name partner team). And they are losing everything they can. That's it.
2023-04-13 19:45
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4 replies
#90
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North America minte
his point is not that the main EG roster is a higher level of CS, but the literal team plays higher level games and events
2023-04-13 22:30
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3 replies
#91
NEO | 
Poland Breno5
but this is because of their money, not their gameplay level. Look at their last few events. Yesterday they lose against american mix. American RMR - 1-2, ESL Pro League 0-3 and out. They are just tier 3 and it doesn't matter on which tournament they are playing
2023-04-13 22:37
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2 replies
#93
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United States vip3r_k1ng
I don't think you understand what I am saying, the COMPETITION, as in OPPONENTS, of EG main are more skilled than the OPPONENTS of EG Black therefore junior will have a harder time playing against them as he has proven multiple times already
2023-04-14 02:02
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1 reply
#94
NEO | 
Poland Breno5
yes and you are right. Didnt get sense
2023-04-14 03:02
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#7
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Poland Botaz
how delusional can you be? just fire everyone related to CS:GO roster, players, coach, analysts, management and hire new competent people.
2023-04-13 00:49
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15 replies
>"how delusional can you be?" >proceeds to be delusional
2023-04-13 00:55
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14 replies
+1, this guy is delusional
2023-04-13 01:02
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#20
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Poland Botaz
like bro they really need a total makeover nothing is gonna save them at this point... NA is so dry in terms of star players... so i had an idea the other day. EG has the money so, get a decent EU AWPer and IGL that can speak good english, 2 key components that are missing in Americas. Then find 1 or 2 super good NA riflers, and 2nd-3rd rifler from SA that is willing to play in English team and again speaks good english. This way they should still be able o compete in americas RMR but have so much bigger potential player pool for your team. Also some of this SA players are insane, but usually there is like 1 or 2 good players in each team and rest are bad and they can't win. And dont splash 20k on them instantly, make it results and world ranking based. small base salary +results bonus. This way they wont get lazy and will try to improve bcuz improvement = reward. Most importantly they gotta botcamp in EU grind some T2 tournaments to gain expierience, and should only go back to America for local qualifiers for important events. Oh yeah and sign them on short term contracts like 1-3 months if they are bad or dont fit the team u are not stuck with a 10year contract but can terminate it and look for other oportunities. I know its hard to find good talent especially in NA, but its better to try more people then be stuck with a 0,9 rating awper xD if anyone reads this whole rant i hope u have a nice day.
2023-04-13 01:07
0
11 replies
EG does this to people the sheer incopetence is so outrageous and to top it off they "ask not to be critized in brodcast" I also went ham on them #22
2023-04-13 01:23
0
You are trying to talk some sense into delusional NA fans bro. How TF on earth are tier 3 players paid as much if not more than some EU teams tier 1 players / stars ..? How do you expect to keep them motivated and not turn into spoiled lazy brats
2023-04-13 02:07
0
so you want decent players on lower salaries and short term contracts, at least 3 of them would need to spend extended time away from home (in another continent!) and a SA guy prone to a big culture shock... apparently one oBo wasn't enough.
2023-04-13 03:05
0
7 replies
#42
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Poland Botaz
not low salary, salary depended on results!! i mean its a fucking grind what u expect? to get paid for sitting on your ass and not improving? the window for your pro career is short, u either grind the shit out of it and make a bank or u just sit in the tier3 with scraps. It's a job not a hobby, or "just a game" people need to start understanding that. also the obo case is why u need a sport psychologist and why the period is 1-3 months if he can't handle it then he is free to leave himself, no long contracts that lock him from other opportunities, its a win win. i think u are only seeing the bad side and ignoring all the good.
2023-04-13 03:21
0
5 replies
any decent player will have better offers, that's the issue. your mind is in the right place, but real life is just not like that.
2023-04-13 04:30
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4 replies
#81
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Poland Botaz
if they do not agree with pay per performance it means they wont perform in this team and will just flop. if u are sure you will own on the server and win, how is that a problem? Your pay will easly increase. Still for the 2nd time u are ignoring what i write. Maybe work on your english or something before talking here, bcuz clearly u can't fucking read.
2023-04-13 13:43
0
3 replies
I'm not ignoring it, you just can't accept that a decent player would 99% of the time choose a safer option (higher salary + longer contract) over a risky "if this team works out well you will be get more money - if it fails you're on the street again" proposition. you want to mix NA, SA and EU together and demand instant results. this is pure insanity.
2023-04-13 14:51
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2 replies
#85
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Poland Botaz
yes yes better do what they are doing rn its clearly working to splash the money at the teams.
2023-04-13 15:03
0
1 reply
they're clearly doing a shit job and need a complete overhaul. Your proposal is just unrealistic in too many points to work irl. You can find cheap talent to develop, but they will need some time together (see Gambit, CPG Flames). You can take NA/SA players to EU, but not full time. You might need an EU IGL, but mixing it with both NA and SA players might be too much culture clash. I agree with parts of your idea, just not when you put it all together.
2023-04-13 16:12
0
insanely high salaries for almost nothing is part of why it’s hard to invest in cs
2023-04-13 13:32
0
The clash of cultures would be really apparent though. I agree SA have more talents, but they lack IGL too. If you bring a EU igl on br/na mix, I doubt it will bring sucess. I'm with you for a BR/NA mix, but I don't think an EU igl will bring much, because of the difference of views. You put the BR as the star players and you put the best NA players as support/anchors.
2023-04-13 04:33
0
acting like he’s wrong
2023-04-13 01:24
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Saviour of EG
2023-04-13 00:53
0
Another undeserving dane gets an opportunity simply because of his nationality. Someone’s gotta reign in these danish coaches. Hext wasn’t even that bad. -wiz +a competent awper was necessary before replacing their improving support player
2023-04-13 00:56
0
6 replies
0.92 rating vs top50 last 12 months, 0.91 last 3. big improvements
2023-04-13 02:20
0
4 replies
He hasn’t even been on EG that long. Filter by 2023
2023-04-13 02:24
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3 replies
2023-04-13 02:25
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2 replies
Bot
2023-04-13 02:37
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1 reply
no u
2023-04-13 14:50
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hext always screaming and lose the next round
2023-04-13 07:51
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#14
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia vamped
So you only have 3 players in the same country in the same team? All online events they play will be tainted because of ping and prac will be hindered because they can’t communicate in person. Seems like this is a continuation of their usual recipe for disaster
2023-04-13 00:58
0
just disband already and give a bit more salary for your dota players, they deserve it with their dreamleague's results
2023-04-13 01:02
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Volborg got some good reputation from what we can assume was his great work back in CPH Flames and I wish him nothing but the best. That being said i don´t think refresh solves anything. He´s not necessarily coming from a squad in good form (tried to igls in sprout and then proceed to get cut) and I don´t think he is the star/team leader this team needs to get them out of their hole. The hole is waaaay too big. Incompetent upper management , overpayed, older, unmotivated players (how the actual **** does brehze still have a spot) and a region with a severe talent shortcuts. In a way they remind me of Gambit (after the Zeus removal). Solid players who went from a solid team to a train-wreck due to extremly bad calls, with rooster moves being unable to stop the bleed. Gambit recognized this and canned the lineup (putting all their eggs on Youngsters). EG (since zews left) in their glorious minds (and unlike gambit) have doubled down and decided to turn their sinking ship in a submarine by throwing more money! All hail the VC money oh wait....
2023-04-13 01:17
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#28
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Poland Botaz
coming from #23, amen brother spot on. i didnt even want to talk about refresh move in my rant its so bad... not for refresh tho, nice paycheck congrats to him.
2023-04-13 01:35
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Well u dont even have firepower
2023-04-13 01:27
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Eg blue hah??
2023-04-13 01:28
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That's it im blaming the players and the coach too. Everyone is bad in this team might as well disband.
2023-04-13 01:30
0
Lol, he's trying to justify bringing in a player that was removed from t2 org sprout. Eg talking about pipeline and blueprint, but now only have one player from their academy teams, and prob will replace him too.
2023-04-13 01:42
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#30
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United States AcE3K
He has a point. EG deserves the chance to make it right, we will see if it works out.
2023-04-13 02:03
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"The Evil Geniuses head coach shared insight into the team's latest change with fans on Twitter." Fake news. EG doesn't have any fans.
2023-04-13 02:34
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1 reply
They probably have few fans. Since Eg is generous, they receives a salary too. They write fake comments on hltv, twitter and reedit.
2023-04-13 04:36
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How about you sign Yur and swap IGL with cynic.... -walker +cynic... Maybe replace D4rty with. Bwills... Idk, I feel like between Nouns and Yur, there is definitely a high quality NA team to be created. Whether or not the attitude, work ethic is there though remains to be seen
2023-04-13 02:38
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1 reply
cynic is a great player and nouns have been looking even better with the addition of marke. Also I agree with that even a better team can be made if someone decided to fuse yur and nouns
2023-04-13 06:27
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>refrezh >firepower choose one
2023-04-13 02:38
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1 reply
They did, he literally says they went with Refrezh because they didn't need firepower. Are you good mens?
2023-04-13 04:21
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My roster: Nexa (igl) Auti (star) Refreshz (support experience from Herioc) Junior (awper only no support) Jeorge (entry/rifler)
2023-04-13 04:21
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2 replies
good roster but EG is keen to keep nealen
2023-04-13 06:23
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1 reply
Yea i just dont think nealan is good enough
2023-04-13 13:05
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fraud refrezh will not solve any problems that EG has.
2023-04-13 04:36
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1 reply
+1
2023-04-13 06:23
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well, i'm glad they want to just play a lot of officials
2023-04-13 04:57
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ahahahahaha
2023-04-13 05:06
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Also EG please sigh me. I would love to receive paycheck for doing nothing
2023-04-13 05:08
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2 replies
Got an idea. If some1 will get salty just give me a call or msg and i will join discord and let them insult me instead of team8`s 1/10 of cerq paycheck will do
2023-04-13 05:11
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1 reply
Oi or i can sing bella ciao mid round during officials
2023-04-13 05:22
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And without firepower they lost to NA advanced teams rofl
2023-04-13 06:00
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I've said it once and I'll say it again. -hext + stewie2k -wiz + smooya
2023-04-13 06:12
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3 replies
EG fans want to ruin their own team why am I not surprised
2023-04-13 06:20
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2 replies
Impossible to ruin at this point. At least with Smooya as their best player they could farm T3
2023-04-13 06:34
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1 reply
I dont think they wish to farm NA T3 and actually compete considering they have partnered spots in big tournaments, smooya has been a good awper to every team he has been but often kicked due to him being a free spirit kinda personality but I think that might work in this EG roster since everyone just looks dead all the time and no one to hype these corpses up
2023-04-13 06:37
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CALL MY BOY JUNIOR UP
2023-04-13 06:20
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From description Nealan would fit in Navi the most
2023-04-13 07:11
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I’ll consider this move an upgrade if you guys don’t finish last in Dallas.
2023-04-13 08:04
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Adding tier 2 refrezh waa token hire to secure sponsoreship now that they cant win anything.
2023-04-13 09:29
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#82
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Brazil CS_KING
I don't see this as the solution. I can already see them getting eliminated early in every big tournament. EG should just make one team with prospects of NA and maintain autimatic or Brehze as igl or disband their csgo teams and buy a entire promising lineup of EU tier 2
2023-04-13 14:41
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just make whole rebuild at this point
2023-04-13 22:43
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