Media: Fluxo in pursuit of paiN trio

13-6-2023 20:17

In the wake of an underwhelming first half of the year, Fluxo are reportedly looking to revamp their roster in the off-season.

Fluxo are eyeing paiN’s trio of Vinicios "⁠PKL⁠" Coelho, Romeu "⁠zevy⁠" Rocco and Wesley "⁠hardzao⁠" Lopes, according to a report from GameArena. The organization are simultaneously trying to retain the services of Lucas "⁠Lucaozy⁠" Neves and Vinicius "⁠vsm⁠" Moreira, while João "⁠felps⁠" Vasconcellos and Adriano "⁠WOOD7⁠" Cerato's futures are uncertain.

It was emphasised in the report that nothing is yet decided, and that Fluxo may end up retaining more than just Lucaozy and vsm. It stated that much depends on paiN resolving the future of their lineup, with the organization reportedly in the hunt for Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo.

paiN join fight for FalleN with FURIA - Report

AWPer zevy is one of Fluxo's reported targets

Fluxo had an underwhelming season in the first half of 2023, winning CCT South America Series 4 in January but struggling to get much done beyond that. The squad failed to qualify for IEM Rio or BLAST’s Spring Showdown, and crashed out of the BLAST Paris Major with an 0-3 record. These results saw the team slide to No. 45 in the world rankings.

Allan "⁠history⁠" Lawrenz had already been moved to the bench by the AWPer’s own request following Fluxo’s ill-fated Major campaign, and now the two worst performers for the team of the tournament, WOOD7 and felps, may be on the way out.

paiN by contrast have impressed so far this year by making it to the playoffs of ESL Pro League, besting Liquid and OG along the way, and narrowly missing out on the Legends Stage at the BLAST Paris Major. Such was their success that they hit the organization’s peak ranking of No. 13 during this period.

MIBR bench Tuurtle, line up $280,000 bid for Lucaozy - Report

This report comes in the wake of revelations that FalleN is being targeted by several organizations and that Lucaozy is the subject of a bid from MIBR, indicating that a significant shake-up of the top Brazilian teams may be on the horizon.

Should all of the reported moves come to fruition, Fluxo would be:

Vinicius "⁠vsm⁠" Moreira
Lucas "⁠Lucaozy⁠" Neves
Vinicios "⁠PKL⁠" Coelho
Romeu "⁠zevy⁠" Rocco
Wesley "⁠hardzao⁠" Lopes

Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado (coach)

just go inter

2023-06-13 20:17

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Nah, BR teams will just swap players, no team will actually get stronger and all of them will be dogshit or tier 2 at best.

2023-06-13 23:24

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Somewhere out there, between all the br teams there is a top 5 team possible to make

2023-06-15 02:05

it's been a long time since brazil had a really great team

2023-06-13 20:18

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4 days xD

2023-06-13 22:26

2023-06-14 01:12

furia is top 5-10 team for 3 years what do you talking about lmao

2023-06-14 13:19

But furia never win anything and always losing to random teams

2023-06-14 15:10

I am talking about a team like SK(LG) who was winning tier1 tournaments

2023-06-14 15:33

lowkey a good team

Why would they downgrade (Talking bout zevy & hardzao OFC)

2023-06-13 20:19

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maybe better salary? who knows. + pain are a dead team anyway

pain&furia&fallen are all gonna mix and stuff about to happen there so probably they are the ones whos gonna get cut from pain

2023-06-13 20:24

zevy will very likely get cut for the saffee come back. Since saffee was insane on paiN.

2023-06-13 20:29

saffee on NA is a Top 5 AWPer

2023-06-13 21:21

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saffe was better on pain than he was on furia.

2023-06-14 09:07

Yes, for sure. going into a fúria can end anyone's career if they don't have the psychology in order to withstand the pressure.

2023-06-14 21:04

I agree.

2023-06-15 02:03

you are most likely correct on that one

2023-06-14 00:46

paiN is willing to sell zevy.

who is flexo founder and where this team get money from?

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don't know, but the org's youtube channel has more than 2m followers

2023-06-13 20:21

the owner is "Nobru" a ex free fire player, he have 14m followers and probally its rich as fak

2023-06-13 20:23

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free fire is bigger than cs in Brazil?

2023-06-13 20:25

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br community is one of the biggest in csgo, what do you think?

2023-06-13 20:31

lol

2023-06-13 20:58

what's fantic?

2023-06-14 16:38

in a midia sense, no. I barrely see anyone talk about, cs is huge in brasil, i can talk about with any guy -30yo tha he will be able to talk about cs...but in a consumer way, there are way too many kids playing freefire , ppl that don't have money to buy a computer for example.

2023-06-13 20:33

any mobile game is gonna be bigger, it's just more accessible, you don't need a good pc to play just a phone, and Brazil is a poor country so yeah.

2023-06-13 20:35

LOL, Free Fire is bigger than CS worldwide! It has 2x active players in the last hour and 32x more active players in the past month. But yeah, in Brazil it's more popular than CS because of it's accessibility. The owner of Fluxo, Nobru, is actually Free Fire 2019 World Series champion.

2023-06-13 20:40

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fake flagger hein joao

2023-06-13 21:08

My family is Brazilian

2023-06-13 23:45

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hmmm do you speak portuguese?

2023-06-13 23:53

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yep. my mom didn't allow me to speak french when we were at home hahaha mas eu sou fluente nos dois idiomas, por isso conheço tanta coisa do brasil, não é fake flag

2023-06-14 01:32

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nice, at least you can feel connected to your root, and which do you prefere: french or brazilian?

2023-06-14 01:37

about what? CS?

2023-06-14 01:43

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in general, like, which do you feel more connected or prefer in general?

2023-06-14 01:50

look at his flag bozo

2023-06-14 05:38

LMAO wasn't expecting for that yeah, I feel more connected with France although I love Brazil

2023-06-14 07:21

Kidnap ZywOo and force him to win a major for Brasszil or you're lying

2023-06-14 07:48

Fake flag easily spotted

2023-06-13 22:19

Hard to say. Yes and no. Really difficult to say. Maybe there’s a bigger market and potential bigger viewership, but it loses on other fields. FURIA is for a fact the biggest Brazilian org, even though the most influential is probably LOUD, and they left Free Fire’s scene. Free Fire built 3 of Brazil’s biggest orgs: Fluxo, Los Grandes (now LOS) and LOUD, but one of them (LOS) is almost leaving the scene due to problems with Garena. LOS has seem to prioritize CS now that they fused with (read as bought) Team One, maybe the most traditional and victorious Brazilian FPS org along with MIBR. Except for LOUD, VKS and maybe some other that I forgot rn, every big Brazilian org invests on CS. Which does not happen with FF. I am not a FF watcher, so Idk much. What I know is that Nobru is a former FF World Champion and our second biggest streamer (only loses to Gaules ofc). So in the end, I can say that CS is bigger also because there is FalleN, our biggest esport personality and player, there is Gaules, our biggest streamer, and we host big tournaments of the game now. I’d love some corrections if any Brazilian wants to point out. Also, I’d say that if we strictly speak of national tournaments, LoL is definitely the greatest here. It just can’t surpass CS because we suck as fuck internationally. There’s a high chance of Valorant joining the discussion in near future.

2023-06-13 21:33

Ty for spending your time and writing all of this. "LOS has seem to prioritize CS now that they fused with (read as bought) Team One," Bad investments from los grandes then, team one had 0 international results. Non-brazilians will remember them because they knocked EG from Paris RMR qualifieer. Maybe when maluk3 finally gone they will achieve smthing

2023-06-14 02:29

Team One is a traditional org and has had success in R6 winning a Major, more than in CS. LOS most likely bought Team One for the tradition and the "know-how". Maluk3 has already gone. They are building an interesting academy team now and will most likely make the main roster around malbsMd and trk. Has been reported that they are in talks with short (ex-Arctic), one of our most promising IGLs, and together they are deciding the other two players.

2023-06-15 02:02

yeah

2023-06-13 21:40

yes, there was a lot of kiddos who loved 3 years ago but now its sort of a dead game

2023-06-15 05:50

The game is accessible, any cellphone can run it, so it can be said as the game of the ones who dont haver PC, and thats a big part of the population.

2023-06-15 14:51

Isn't Pain a significantly larger organization than Fluxo?

2023-06-13 21:16

its is, but fluxo have more money.

2023-06-13 21:29

Pain have more, but the owner spend everything in the shit lol squad, getting corean players for 50k dol/month. And i heard that the owner have diamond mines in Africa.

2023-06-15 16:17

Historically, yes. Fanbase-wise it’s hard to say. It’s like comparing Vitality to KCorp. Vitality is traditional, has many winning rosters, dominant in many games, but KCorp has Kamet0 and his viewers, which reflects on Nobru’s fans and his org, Fluxo.

2023-06-13 21:37

They were originally a Free Fire org (mobile battle royale game that exploded in Brazil bcz its system requirements were very low, so it became very accessible and a massive hit) founded by 'Nobru' and 'Cerol' (two big Free Fire streamers) who eventually got into CS (same thing with Loud, but this one joining LoL and Valorant)

2023-06-13 20:30

Free Fire youtuber and pro player I think. Carol and Nobru

2023-06-13 20:49

Interesting brazilian shuffle

If this happens, why should fallen even consider pain???

2023-06-13 20:20

That would actually be a best case scenario for paiN to sign Fallen. Skullz is considered by many a top 3 brazilian player already and there's room to grow. Biguzera is at his peak and is solid. Nekiz is a good entryfragger. PKL is bad (and benched), hardzao is just ok and Zevy is awp, which ofc wouldn't be the best fit with Fallen. Long story short, paiN would retain their best pieces to work with Fallen and would have an open spot for some other big name. W/w situation.

Pain is worse than current Imperial with this changes.

2023-06-13 21:27

biguzera’s best is being an IGL. And we also lack good IGLs so I’m against him becoming a regular rifler again, really.

2023-06-13 21:41

Hardzao is literally the best solo bomb we have in Brasil

2023-06-14 20:06

Why are paiN so dumb? Their team have so much potential

paiN wants more money to invest in the lol team

2023-06-13 20:26

wanting more money =/= wanting to buy Fallen

2023-06-13 22:31

They want FalleN and probably are sad that they have had a bad post-Major. Idk understand completely as well.

wtf is that nekiz,skullz >pkl

2023-06-13 20:22

PKL is IGL But still a mistake as they should be after biguzera

but biguzera is also igl, thats why they should skullz in place of pkl

2023-06-13 20:28

Fluxo wants an IGL though, they are dropping WOOD7

2023-06-13 21:42

biguzera is not up for sale

2023-06-13 21:43

PKL so bad though

2023-06-13 22:07

I don't think he is that bad, but I still prefer WOOD7 anyway

2023-06-15 01:53

fluxo in pursuit of this L

Pkl zevy hardzao literally pain's worst players???? Bruh no wonder any brazilian team cant beat FURIA even though theyre shit

pkl???????????????

yes he's good

2023-06-14 16:39

so saffee will go back to paiN but who will replace hardzao?

drop

2023-06-13 21:20

That would be a great move. NEKIZ biguzera skullz saffee drop What a line up tbh

i agree

Who igl

2023-06-14 20:24

biguzera. He has been their IGL for months now and is doing a great job, surprisingly.

2023-06-15 02:04

Its a solid team if this going to happen

2023-06-15 07:29

2023-06-18 17:27

who is IGL

2023-06-13 20:27

PKL was the IGL at PaiN before benching himself

brazilian shuffle

Ui papai, GL

2023-06-13 20:32

Brazilian shuffle going nuts

2023-06-13 20:41

refuse team

OMG nice !!!

This isn't goin to end well i swear

2023-06-13 21:31

2023-06-14 00:28

Only world that happens is if Pain is trying to get Imperial Trio Fallen, Chelo, Vini

My bet: Pain: - biguzera - skullz - NEKIZ - saffee - Chelo or JOTA FURIA: - FalleN - arT - yuuriih - KSCERATO - VINI or fer Fluxo: - vsm - lucaozy - zevy - PKL - Hardzao In my opinion just by changing the inner pieces between themselves all three teams would VASTLY improve!

Good bet

2023-06-13 22:00

Pretty realistic imo, but I worry that it's a downgrade for Furia. It would suck if yuurih and kscerato waste even more time on a roster that doesn't go anywhere

2023-06-13 22:25

I doubt Mibr would bench Turtle without having a deal with Luzaozy already, and I really hope he goes there as I have no hopes for Fluxo while Mibr actually looks promissing... this Pain looks really good actually but I'm not very confident they would buy chelo/jota out of Imperial (unless the team disband what I doubt), they would probably go for the drop + saffee duo, which is not ideal but not terrible either

2023-06-13 22:28

Drop going to paiN? I doubt, they probably spend a little to get either latto or dumau from 00

2023-06-13 22:35

Drop and saffe make a good duo of good energy they friends

2023-06-14 20:25

F boltz

2023-06-14 03:11

paiN and Fluxo are taking really bad decisions. FalleN really is the savior of our region. If he decides to either stay on Imperial or go to FURIA, he will probably save some teams lol

2023-06-13 21:45

Luxo

2023-06-13 22:10

So wtf are skullz and biguzera gonna do? I'll be angry if they don't go to Furia to replace arT and drop lol

2023-06-13 22:23

I doubt as Pain is probably looking to rebuild the team around them, but would be nice

2023-06-13 22:30

I wanted to see Pain sticking together, only changing Saffee for zevy, but I guess Biguzera, Skullz, Nekiz, Saffee and drop (or chelo if they can get him out of Imperial) is not too bad either, I have no hopes for Fluxo though, hopefully at least Lucaozy goes to Mibr

Imagine picking up the two worst players and one that's benched XDDDDD

2023-06-13 23:02

PKL benched himself

2023-06-14 06:12

Hmmm, good stuff but Pain has got a lot of potential, I can't imagine how that's a great trade and how different it will be for the upcoming months.

2023-06-13 23:31

Lol Pain would give their players to F L uxo

2023-06-14 06:09

NO PAIN PLS STAY TOGETEHR

2023-06-14 06:10

paiNful choices incoming for the Brazilian scene

2023-06-14 10:22

they are actually doing pain a favor. with the right moves pain can get even stronger after this.

2023-06-14 13:59

Same players, diffent teams. The problem with brazilian CS is not the players. They should be focusing in understanding the game better, maybe get some european experience like a coach or something, to give them another view of the game. This changes are only good to make Fluxo beat other brazilian teams, but they'll still get shit on a major / other big events with european teams

2023-06-14 14:45

pain selling their bad players? nice

2023-06-14 15:04

Pain is just getting into the groove of things, they become a top 20 to 30 team, and pretty serious contenders and right when they get there they're in talks to sell their star players?!?!?! Makes perfect sense for a Brazilian organization. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2023-06-14 16:40

Detona 2.0

2023-06-14 16:53

Felps Boltz Chelo Jota Yel Bom 2.0

2023-06-14 19:07

good upgrade but still not enough. this line is max 1-3 in a major challengers stage (considering that they would classify)

2023-06-14 19:18

Felps vem para imperial

2023-06-14 20:10

why does Brazilian CS have the worst roster shuffles ever? At least with NA i can accept that there is 1 good NA player so swapping between different players is the equivalent of moving chairs in a sinking ship, but Brazil has so much talent that these awful roster moves only hold the region back.

2023-06-15 11:41

the moves not even started to happen how can you judge if they are good or not?

2023-06-15 16:26

Because the shuffles don't solve the problem with each team. Furia is a lack of good tactics and Pain lacks skill so its obvious how to fix their problems. picking up Fallen MIGHT solve the tactics problem for Furia but now we are really lacking for firepower and Pain gains nothing from any of these shuffles besides lucaozy which might not happen.

2023-06-16 21:53