Entire Rare Atom lineup departs organization

7-8-2023 13:15

The current best team in China is without an organization.

The best team in China is up for grabs

Rare Atom have announced that their entire lineup, including the coach, have not renewed their contracts, making them free agents. All six members of the team had been with Rare Atom for over a year.

The departing lineup began representing the organization back in January 2022, when ViCi rebranded as Rare Atom. WeiJie "⁠zhokiNg⁠" Zhong and ZhiHong "⁠aumaN⁠" Liu were quickly replaced with Jingxiang "⁠Mercury⁠" Wang and Qianhao "⁠Moseyuh⁠" Chen, whereupon the five was consistent for the rest of their time with Rare Atom.

During the lineup’s tenure they were consistently the best team hailing from China, and they won a raft of regional events like ESL Challenger Leagues and Perfect World Premier Leagues. The squad also achieved a respectable top-four finish at ESL Challenger Valencia in one of their few international outings, but failed to qualify for a Major in three attempts.

According to a post made on Chinese social media platform Weibo by coach Xielin "⁠k4Mi⁠" Zhu, the lineup is looking to continue playing together and is searching for support ahead of their upcoming participation in ESL Pro League.

The team departing Rare Atom, currently listed as 5yclone on HLTV, features:

Zhuo "⁠advent⁠" Liang
Andrew "⁠kaze⁠" Khong
Yi "⁠JamYoung⁠" Yang
Jingxiang "⁠Mercury⁠" Wang
Qianhao "⁠Moseyuh⁠" Chen

Xielin "⁠k4Mi⁠" Zhu

It's over

2023-08-07 13:16

2 replies

lol they want a better contract for shanghai majir 2024

2023-08-07 15:00

TSM TSM

2023-08-07 22:18

EDG CS BatChest BatChest

2023-08-07 13:17

4 replies

Edg want winners

2023-08-07 13:53

Delusional_Indian

2023-08-07 16:52

why :(

2023-08-07 21:08

1 reply

youre the smartest indian in your chair

2023-08-09 14:36

Sadge

I guess Rare Atom just not on LEVEL of organisations that lineup needs. Cuz i think lineup have a super high goal especially with 2024 china major

2023-08-07 17:48

new team for EG or TSM to buy

2023-08-07 13:18

6 replies

TheMongolZ is currently orgless too.

2023-08-07 13:35

5 replies

But RA specified in their statement they are not withdrawing from the Chinese CS scene particularly, so I assume they'll stick to Chinese roster.

2023-08-07 17:10

I think you are misunderstood. He said TSM, EG or other orgs should pickup that roster and i said they should pickup MongolZ roster too, because they are orgless too.

2023-08-07 17:57

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TheMongolz will probably remain orgless and independent for the time being, presumably out of caution due to the IHC controversy. For ex-RA tho, an org definitely should pick them up. Unlike other teams in Asia, they have promise and legitimacy. But keep orgs like TSM and EG away. I'd say the best options right now for them would be for them to be picked up by Invictus, EDG, or FPX. Would be a perfect opportunity to return to CS since they can start with EPL season 18 since the roster automatically gives any team the spot RA had, and the buildup of the future of the CS scene in CS2 has promise and can be enticing.

2023-08-07 18:07

Also if ex-RA continues their form, they could qualify to the next major so ez sticker money for whatever org picks them up.

2023-08-07 19:06

I just hope they can be good enough to send Grayhound home. TheMongolz practically have a lock on a spot at majors, just need to prevent Grayhound from making it since Oceania and Asia are unfortunately lumped together in the Asia qualifier, and they're the main reason why there's only usually 1 Asian team at majors.

2023-08-07 19:12

Oh no

Oh no anyways

2023-08-07 13:20

fpx please buy them

+999

2023-08-07 15:21

FPX, Invictus Gaming, and EDG all got a perfect opportunity to try swiping the whole roster right now. They'd be beyond stupid if they don't try to do so.

2023-08-07 18:14

YO JDG OR BILIBILI LNG??? HEY TOP ESPORTS!!!! WEIBO GAMING?????????

2023-08-07 18:50

2023-08-07 13:21

RIP china scene

2023-08-07 13:22

where is jamyoung_top_1 guy?

2023-08-07 13:26

10 yr'd i think

2023-08-07 14:05

So sad

2023-08-07 14:20

fpx or edg should pick them up, running chinese team very cheap

Jamyoung guy in shambles!

2023-08-07 13:27

this face deserves a 6 figure buyout

2023-08-07 13:28

0,00002$

2023-08-07 16:36

100.000 forint

2023-08-07 21:14

104.685 drahmas

2023-08-08 07:37

sexy

Most of the Tyloo roster benched, entire rare atom roster is up for grabs. Who's gonna be the org that will build the Chinese superteam.

2023-08-07 13:30

But who in China can replace anyone from RA? I assume Danking cuz amaze is Malaysian but that makes no sense given Kaze is best AWPer in Asia RN. Jamyoung Moseyuh and Mercury are the best rifled in China RN. Maybe advent can be replaced but come on replace IGL? No way.

2023-08-08 03:12

TSM chance to bounce back in CS2

Bleed +Ex-Rare Atom

2023-08-07 13:31

Renegades inc or 100Thievs

2023-08-07 13:33

Renegades dead org now

2023-08-07 15:44

I think they have a rocket League and LOL team

2023-08-08 05:49

they used to have a RL and Apex teams, but dropped them last year. Sinde then no updates on the org and they are pretty much dead now

2023-08-08 14:58

EG, CoL and C9 have an opportunity to upgrade their roster

Nice joke

2023-08-07 23:20

TYLOO now is time to drop the eu roster and add RA !!!

2023-08-07 13:38

Feelsbadman for kaze

2023-08-07 13:41

rip

2023-08-07 13:55

mongolz no1 anyway

2023-08-07 14:03

Oh no… anyway

2023-08-07 14:10

sad for china cs

2023-08-07 14:17

man wtf(

Invest in Chinese e-Sport isn't good, most of them struggle to keep electricity 24 hours & they can't afford internet / buy PC hardware. So as the results no one watch game or playing game.

2023-08-07 14:23

28 replies

where do you get this information lol

2023-08-07 14:27

8 replies

Just watch on YouTube, China uncensored channel. Their government censor the truth about the country, so you don't even know the truth.

2023-08-07 15:09

7 replies

I doubt you know the truth if your evidence is “watch YouTube” lol.

2023-08-07 16:25

youtube is devinity not the best source for evidence

2023-08-07 16:50

Not all videos on YouTube is true especially when it comes from country without freedom & transparency. But some people success record & report what actually happened there.

2023-08-07 16:51

Lol. We get it but, no.

2023-08-07 17:54

so umm actually there is chinese youtuber cus you know that the great firewall can be bypasd right? it is not like that information in china is superlocked down. It is not north korea

2023-08-08 12:34

They paid that youtuber for propaganda reason.

2023-08-08 16:50

lol

That's like the biggest piece of bs I seen in a while

2023-08-07 14:39

This is how media always works lol. But there's just more and more western people realize they make up bs all the time

2023-08-08 05:56

OMG, you deserves 50 cent from the government. Enjoy your holiday in Weihai.

2023-08-08 11:56

This is what media works for, lol. You have built a perfect logic to make everything you don't believe plausible. oIt'sOK, i am not gonna convince you, we live onw life, just wish you have a good day

2023-08-09 05:14

Average idiot hltv user thought he knows everything lmao

2023-08-07 15:15

dont they have restricted times how much they can game in day,if they are under 18 that is

2023-08-07 15:28

this IS the main reason i assume

2023-08-07 16:47

Yupz, they will lost social credit. So they can't get loan & job.

2023-08-07 16:49

haha imagine spreading misinformation on internet en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_Syst..

2023-08-07 18:33

clearly kids will be made jobless for their life as a result of playing 4 hours of video games in a week

2023-08-07 21:05

my guy, even if what you said was true and only 33% of the country had both electricity and PC, and 10% of that were interested in e-sports, that would still be more people than the entirety of Poland

2023-08-07 17:43

2023-08-08 00:19

The real problem is culture and politics. 1. Parenting/schooling in China consider playing anything as a sin. 2. Education encourages extreme nationalism and individualism, making Chinese refuse to learn from the others. 3. And Chinese gamers are even prohibited to share the same server with other country.

2023-08-08 03:18

i think the biggest reason is still parent think gaming is bad and blame everything on it. Bad mark in exam? Ofc because of video games.Have a fight in school,?gaming causr it. Bad mental health? Play too much game. Literally every problem can be blame on gaming and it is just bad for esport in china.

2023-08-08 12:26

to tell the truth, thank you for making my day

2023-08-08 04:52

2023-08-08 12:18

I hope you got chance to be here to travel and saw whether electricity is supplied 24h. Also welcome you to visit their training center, I thought all of the facilities or hardwares are similar to Europe. The reason China has no super CS team is based on Cultures and Politics. Youth age before the 18 can not attend any formal Esports evnets but global standard is over 16. I am also sad for China CS, but hope it could be better in CS2.

2023-08-08 05:16

Posts like this is why Sinophobia is so common lol.

2023-08-08 07:08

Sinophobia is needed to keep Canadian & American forget about their problem.

2023-08-08 11:59

If NiP sign them will be a 90% upgrade

2023-08-07 14:24

didn't you forgot a 0 ?

2023-08-07 14:30

+1 its a Chinese org after all

NiP LoL team is chinesse

2023-08-07 15:29

their CEO is Hicham Chahine it sounds chinese enough to me

2023-08-07 17:18

2023-08-07 14:40

Rip

Good time RA AND TYLOO SWITCH ROSTER

2023-08-07 14:35

Good luck to them

They're rare paycheck now

2023-08-07 14:42

Edward Gaming????

2023-08-07 14:51

EDG, Invictus, and FPX all got a big opportunity right now, would frankly be high tier levels of stupid if they don't take the initiative to swipe the entire roster since these guys have a spot at EPL season 18 that starts at the end of this month. It's only EPL but having a qualified spot there is not something to shrug off or laugh at.

2023-08-07 18:13

nooooooooo

2023-08-07 14:55

Unfortunate, hopefully there's an org that sees the value of this team, I think if they stick together they are poised to do well in Asia for CS2.

2023-08-07 14:57

The team absolutely has value. Really because of one single reason: They have a spot at EPL which begins at the end of this month. It's basically an ATK/M80 situation. Org suddenly drops the roster, another esports org takes notice and then makes the move to enter CS by swiping a core from the original roster and instantly qualifying for this season of EPL. It's only EPL but it's still a tier 1 tournament, and having a spot at EPL is not a laughing matter or something one should shrug off. Only in this case, any CN org can just swipe the entire roster. Don't need to fix anything for the time being.

2023-08-07 22:51

Yeah, but I think being one of the best Chinese teams also brings value to the team as well. They also for example participate in all of China's big events as well: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Perfect_Wor..

2023-08-08 02:05

ye ofc but EPL qualification is the biggest asset they have right now, it's a big tier 1 tournament and an international tournament. Something that Asian teams have barely been able to attend until very recently. And for the tourney you linked, they may decide to skip this in favor of EPL.

2023-08-08 02:07

You are probably correct on the skipping part. When TYLOO did that in the past though, they were invited back to a future tournament. But yes, large international events are king.

2023-08-08 14:55

Well at least this time the org didnt implode because of a crypto scam 👍 I'd say maybe one of those lol chinese teams like edward/JDG/Billibilli would pick up a team, but idk why they would outside if they were connected with perfect world one way or another.

Most of cn players sucks now anyway unlike 3 or 4 years ago when theres 2 decent cn team, i hate to say it but the pro scene is officialy dead in cn because of lol and valorant

2023-08-07 15:14

I mean Mongolz are pretty legit right now, but yeah Rare Atom are far from the BnTeT Tyloo days. Asia/Oceania scene is really dead these days. OCE havent had a real star since dexter left, and outside Mongolia creating a decent team outta nowhere China/Korea is just dead. I am happy for those MVP PK guys doing well in valorant tho.

2023-08-07 15:17

I'll never understand why XigN chose to remain tho when he could be living the life in VALORANT along with the rest of the former MVP PK right now. I respect him for choosing to remain but I'll never understand why he chose to do so. And Chinese CS isn't completely dead. Lynn Vision and now ex-RA seem to have some promise.

2023-08-08 01:01

Si much talent here they just need European coach … And moving to Eu for real practice

2023-08-07 15:16

Hey this can be seen as a good thing. We could see the entry of T1, SKT, or other super massive chinese/Asian org come in and scoop up the team, and give them the assistance they need to actually participate in more tier 1 tournaments. Same could happen with themongolz too. I would love to see some of these huge Asian orgs that have never given CS a chance to come in now. Both top Asian teams are orgless.

More chances these big orgs enter valorant than csgo

2023-08-07 15:31

I mean true, the Asia scene in Valo is massive compared to CS. But the reason is investment. If a big org came to CS, more orgs would come to compete against them, and then players would come from valo to CS. Same can be said about NA. The only reason NA CS is dead is because all the remaining good players are in Valo, getting paid kings ransoms by super massive orgs. If just a few more orgs like M80 come along, NA players would come back, and NA CS would be back to life. Same could happen for Asia I don't doubt it.

2023-08-07 16:07

And whats the incentive for these big orgs to invest decently into cs? No scene, no national leagues, no support from valve/tos... simply a waste of money. No smart org is joining asia/na cs scene Valve has to make the first step and take the "risk" because no org is going to take the risk for them obviously

2023-08-07 16:12

Perfect world is having a big LAN tournament in September, the biggest Asian LAN for CS to date that wasn't run by ESL. Perfect World is the company that runs CS in China. Besides the fact it seems like the 2nd major of 2024 is going to be in China too. There's a few insentives that Valve want to tap into the Chinese market, and now would be a great time to enter in cheaply. I can imagine a few orgs will join and make small investments to try and make it to the Chinese major. There's still around 16~ months before that major would start.

2023-08-07 16:18

you mean PWA season 5? Ye that'd be a good time, could maybe have new teams replace Lynn Vision and ex-RA since that LAN unfortunately conflicts with EPL season 18 and I think both teams may prioritize EPL. And unless Valve changes some shit to make it that more Asian rosters could qualify to the Chinese major, it's just going to be TheMongolz and laughably Grayhound again.

2023-08-07 18:11

To be fair though, major spots are awarded by placement. If an Asian team made it to the legends stage, they'd get a 3rd spot. If a team made playoffs, theyd get a legends spot. It's based on performances. Sadly that system wasn't around when renegades were actually good, which would've given Asia a 3rd spot in the next major as well as an automatic legends spot but that's rectified now, and if a team ever got a good run into the playoffs, then they'd get a legends spot. If both Asian teams managed to make it to legends, they'd have 4 spots in the next major. That's why the Americas lost a spot, only 3 teams made it to the legends stage, they would've kept their legends spot too thanks to liquids run but... Liquid brought that legends spot to Europe when they transitioned to international. So now Americas have no legends spot as well as 1 less spot in the major. Which stinks for them. If none of the teams made it to legends though, they'd also only be given 2 spots in the next major. Which would be a travesty.

2023-08-07 19:07

ye I guess. Still urks me that Asia and Oceania are lumped together when there's no right for them in doing so, just makes no logical sense.

2023-08-07 21:04

TSM

2023-08-07 15:22

Whatever they do, I hope they all stick together! My favorite team from Asia for sure.

2023-08-07 15:40

navi can get them for cheap jamyoung > simple

2023-08-07 16:13

They have good potential

2023-08-07 16:15

TSM should unironically pick this team over whatever shitshow they were assembling around BOT Jackazz

2023-08-07 16:37

HOLY SHIIIT! Danking actually has a chance to get a team now!

2023-08-07 17:16

EDG, FPX, and Invictus have a good opportunity here, they'd be stupid to not take this.

2023-08-07 17:36

EHOME

2023-08-07 18:19

jamyoung to... eg?

2023-08-07 18:20

It's the best time for EDG to get the trio jamyoung mercury and moseyuh. I hope they make advent their coach and not a player.

2023-08-07 19:03

One major problem with that tho is that there aren't really alot of Asian IGLs out there. And it might be a bad idea to make a roster change right now when ex-RA have been playing together for quite a long while without roster changes, would likely break current synergy.

2023-08-07 19:17

with advent there is no synergy trust me💀 advent can just make some new player an igl.

2023-08-07 19:35

Damn I really wanted RA stickers :( if this keeps up all regions except EU with a few outliers will die

2023-08-07 20:03

It'll likely be fine, I don't think there isnt an org considering picking the roster up since they have a qualified spot at EPL. it's only EPL but it's not something to laugh at or shrug off since its still a tier 1 tournament.

2023-08-07 20:05

TSM should sign this line-up, much better than the one was rumored.

2023-08-07 20:07

fuck that, keep TSM away m8

Rumors claim they are not satisfied by the salary RA provided

2023-08-07 20:20

If they replace advent with anyone decent, they are instantly N1 team in asia. For sure!

2023-08-07 20:36

China lacks IGLs and Advent is actually the best of the lot though his mechanics for sure are shite.

2023-08-07 21:06

China like the rest of Asia and the world in general, has an IGL problem. There's just not enough popping out. In recent times, the only breakout IGLs we've had are kyxsan and siuhy.

2023-08-07 22:15

Team Solo Malaysia

Team Sole Malaysian would be crazy if TSM decides to have 1 EU and 1 AS roster tho, (impossible now after whole FTX collapse...)

2023-08-07 22:19

i guess we will never see RA stickers on Major after all good luck to this lineup, they have potential to surpass even Mongolz when it comes down to it but they couldnt ever express it fully when it mattered the most. Hopefully they can ink in a contract before EPL!

2023-08-07 21:07

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nt they could never surpass mongolz

2023-08-07 23:36

i believe they have the potential to but at times when they have had the chance , they fell flat.

2023-08-07 23:40

They never had a chance /closed

2023-08-07 23:42

they had quite a few chances but again , failed to capitalize on them.

They did their best apparently it wasn't enough, they got destroyed by real asian kings and Australian kangaroos on every major qualifier/important events

2023-08-07 23:47

thats really what i`m implying , they couldnt deliver when it was high time but i believe they can do better than what they have shown

2023-08-07 23:49

"they had quite a few chances but again , failed to capitalize on them." What I'm trying to say is they gave it all they have and used everything they could but they kept losing cause they simply weren't(they're doomed they should retire on the spot) good enough

2023-08-07 23:55

and what i`m trying to say is that despite of their shortcomings , i believe they werent able to bring out the best of their abilities to topple the opposition in these circumstances.

2023-08-07 23:57

just as long as its enough to knock down Grayhound. Those mfkers ruin everything by qualifying and then bombing out in last place. Just lousy sticker money farmers.

2023-08-08 01:31

TSM?

2023-08-07 22:01

In Chinese, names are commonly written as [last name - normally 1 character] [first name - normally 2 characters]. It's always interesting to see how English news outlets deal with this, with most sticking to the conventional Chinese format, anyone from HLTV able to enlighten me on why this doesn't seem to be the case here? Is it to keep the almost iconic format of [first name] [IGN + profile link] [last name] that HLTV uses in seemingly all articles?

2023-08-07 22:02

ITS JOEVER. WTF RARE ATOM, I TRUSTED YA'LL, I KNOW WE CHOKED BACK TO BACK ASIA RMRS BUT COME ON GUYS WTFFFFFFF. On the other hand, free asian major team contender to pickup for EDG / RNG / NewBee / FPX. Literal top 1 asian awper with crazy riflers for FREE. HELL i'd even take fucking BILIBILI GAMING at this point...

2023-08-07 22:14

pretty sure Valve permanently banned Newbee in everything Valve related after the Dota2 match fixing gibberish they decided to do 2 years ago. Even if they're still able to compete in CS, it's over for Newbee regardless since I dont think they can even function anymore due to Perfect World also banning them. And ye, this would be a great time for any high profile Chinese esport org to pick them up. Would be a decent start in their entrance (or decent return to CS) since the roster has a spot at EPL that's to start at the end of August. P.S, hey EDG, Invictus, or FPX, you'd be stupid af if you dont at least try giving them a chance, it may be EPL but having a spot at EPL is not something to shrug off or laugh at :v

2023-08-07 22:21

oh I wasn't aware of the NewBee incident, but always knew they were around the CN esports scene for league/dota at some point or another. EPL spot = guaranteed stonks for any fucking org out there. especially with ex-RA lineup usually pulling off an upset here and there and not embarassing themselves (like EG for example). I really hope to see one of the big CN orgs out there giving themselves a chance to reinvent themselves in preparation for CS2 incoming which would definitely be the best way to start.

2023-08-07 22:25

Im gonna assume that talks are currently happening, just give it another 2 weeks at least or so. It'd be stupid as fuck if orgs like the three I mentioned (IG, EDG, and FPX) or others like RNG don't consider entering or re-entering CS with this roster since a free spot at EPL is no laughing matter or something to shrug off since it's still a tier 1 tournament. It's basically an M80 situation: ATK suddenly drops their roster, another org (in this case M80) sees the opportunity and swiped a core from ex-ATK to enter the CS scene. A chinese org can do the same for ex-RA, but can decide to swipe the entire roster in one go.

2023-08-07 22:36

this gotta be the heist of the year for the WHOLE roster to be free for ANY cn org out there..... CS scene so HUMONGOUS in china it would be a literal crime to not pick these dudes up for FREE.

2023-08-07 22:38

like I said, there's probably at least some talks going on out there. Just might take a while. If ex-RA didn't qualify for EPL, they probably wouldn't even be considered. But because they did, there's now an asset to offer since many orgs in CS would likely kill to get a spot in EPL since (despite the partnership garbage), there's a decent amount of spots available and RA just happened to snipe one of them. Would be a great opportunity to take the whole roster (the coach stated that they want to stick together, at least according to the article) in for EPL alone and then work from there.

2023-08-07 22:43

Kaze my beloved..... If we get picked up by a new CN super org, I know we will stop choking Asia RMR qualifiers for CS2 Copenhagen 2024 Major, right....?

bad for my name...

2023-08-07 23:01

better change it men)))

2023-08-07 23:27

for some reason it is not possible to change username in hltv

2023-08-08 17:07

ah shit, they fucking removed that option at some point

2023-08-08 17:11

Hahaha bots

2023-08-08 00:16

TSM this is you

2023-08-08 01:43

2023-08-08 01:49

This team isn't strong enough to compete in tier 2 CS unless they replace advent someday.Remaining advent in their roster make it possible to be even worse than new RARE ATOM featuring expro sombody cy1/attacker according to some rumor.

2023-08-08 05:07

I mean, where are they even gonna find an IGL replacement for advent. Asia like the rest of the world has an IGL problem, there's just not alot out there. Or really any new ones popping up. All we have for breakout IGLs are kyxsan and especially siuhy from the Paris major.

2023-08-08 05:23

Truth.But I do insist that firepower is the way quite more important than tactics.Like old tyloo and the mongolz, they just play some defaults and some simple&effective tactics, making chaos and then leave everything to aiming.

2023-08-08 06:45

Rip CNCS

2023-08-08 05:21

tyloo please pick them up instead of the random serbians

But It's dealt already. If It happened before tyloo rebuilds, we can probably see a a super Chinese team

2023-08-08 05:59

TOP ESPORTS PICK THEM UP

2023-08-08 07:54

Yo goat awper zhoking is free

2023-08-08 12:01

2023-08-08 17:32

SAVE KAZE

2023-08-08 22:13

+1 SAVE MY BOI KAZE, HE DESERVES BETTER

2023-08-08 23:43

EDG.jamyoung will come true.wait to see.

2023-08-09 01:36

i will not be surprised if another big asian team disbands cuz there is just not much support from valve or any other big tournament i mean just look at their spots only 1 team will qualify from such a big region we are talking about whole asia middle,south,east, with chinese,even east part of russia play at asian qualifiers and only 1 team will qualify ,meanwhile aussises always get 2 spot no matter what result is crazy to me

2023-08-09 12:25