nafany: "In Cloud9 I wasn't a leader at all, I was only the IGL"

nafany has learned from his mistakes in Cloud9 and came back to bite his former team in Dubai.

BetBoom are into the semi-finals after a convincing 2-0

Vladislav "⁠nafany⁠" Gorshkov and BetBoom are into the last four at BetBoom Dacha, having knocked out the IGL's former side Cloud9.

It's a result that validates nafany as a leader, but the man himself, in an interview with HLTV, points to his removal as a turning point: A moment where he decided to be louder, to prioritize the team over what people think of him, and to undertake another project from the ground up.

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The fruits of his labor are already being borne. BetBoom stormed into playoffs at IEM Sydney and have now beaten GamerLegion and Cloud9 to repeat the feat at Dacha.

This result is not without controversy, given the conflict of interest present as a result of nafany's squad being owned by the title sponsor of the event, and the 22-year-old also took the chance to address that criticism.


You've beaten former team Cloud9, eliminated them, give me your initial feelings after that.

As I said on stage, for now, it's a regular game. Of course, I want to win this one, because I want to be in playoffs, not because of Cloud9. But, for now, I'm pretty sure that I'm capable of more than only Cloud9.

Tell me a bit about the squeaky yellow chicken [that he was making noise in timeouts with early on], you're still holding it now of course, there was a little bit more spice to that game. It wasn't completely normal, was it?

Actually, after Cloud9 kicked me, I thought a lot about how captains have to be leaders. In Gambit or Cloud9 I wasn't a leader at all, I was only the in-game leader.

It's easy to remember about cadiaN for example. From my point of view, he's a leader of the team. Even if I don't really like him as a person, as a leader and a captain I respect him a lot and I was thinking a lot about that, and decided I needed to be more spicy when we talk about our opponents.

It's fine if they think that I'm an idiot or something, maybe they will think I'm toxic as fuck, but, in general, right now, this team is more important than what people will think about me.

I wanted to ask about that as well, Cloud9 obviously had a bit of a reputation as a bit of a quiet team. It was only you really shouting, the others were quiet. But this team, it's all of you going quite ham, the atmosphere looked crazy this game. Tell me about that.

Yeah, this team is more hyped. We have KaiR0N- who, in some ways, is a bit like me two years ago, he's really hyped and has a lot of energy. That's what we didn't have at Cloud9 in the last roster, we weren't at our best mental health let's say.

For now, I feel like this team has to be really loud to be in confident form. It works, just check our first game this tournament against MIBR, we were pretty silent and we sucked. Other two games, we were hyped and it works.

Such a young team as well, how important is it to cultivate the culture of being proper LAN warriors. You didn't really get that chance in Gambit, a lot of that early growth was online, but this team you're growing on LAN, at Pari, Sydney, now here. Is that important for a young team?

Of course it's important, but for now it's not the most important thing. We just need tournament practice. It doesn't matter which tournament, online or LAN, whatever, we just need to play as much as we can. Some players need more experience, for sure, and it seems like it works.

Let's say about danistzz for example, he was not in the best shape because he didn't know how to use his feelings. It's really important to play as many tournaments as we can. Online, LAN, doesn't matter, we just need to play as much as we can.

nafany is prioritizing tournament reps for his young side

I also wanted to ask about picking Nuke. Obviously permaban for a while in Cloud9 and before, but coming into your own on it now. You were even up 7-1 on T side, how comfortable are you playing it?

I know that we played it once at Cloud9, versus FaZe...

The accident

Yeah. But we played it, and some players weren't happy about that, not that we played it, but that we played a map we never played before and that I didn't understand something as an in-game leader or something. It was tough for me, but I'm feeling really comfortable on this map. Even if we look at statistics, I think it's a good map for me, even if I played it fewer than 20 times officially. For us it's a fine map, maybe some players don't like it, but we're good at it.

Also about the tournament, only the top four get prize money so it's really important for ranking points. Was playoffs your goal, or still gunning for more?

As far as I understand, we'll qualify for the closed qualifiers of the RMR anyway, so it's fine for us. Even without this tournament we did it. But, I'm not sure because it's Valve, anything could happen.

But we came here not for the prize money or something, we just came here to show people that we're capable to make some big wins, let's say. That's our main goal, our minimum goal was to make playoffs and now we did it. Now we can play without pressure, and do even better, I hope so at least. That's it, nothing about ranking. Actually, in my opinion, I rate more and care more about HLTV ranking.

Also just for people to understand, we are BetBoom team and playing at BetBoom Dacha, but you have to understand that it's not making us a special team and they're making everything for us. We even chose activities last, we were the last team. It's more about, for example, practices, we get it last. We're fine with it, we understand that we have to prove that we deserve it.

I understand why people are complaining about BetBoom at a BetBoom tournament, but in general we are a top 15 team on HLTV when they invited us, so it's pretty deserved. We beat GamerLegion, we beat Cloud9, we deserve it as fuck. People have to respect this and understand.

Date Matches
BetBoom Dacha 2023
09/12/2023
10:55
Match
09/12/2023
13:50
Match
Russia Vladislav 'nafany' Gorshkov
Vladislav 'nafany' Gorshkov
Age:
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1109
KPR:
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DPR:
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2023-12-08 15:46
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#2
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Australia jkass
No wonder he got kicked from Cloud9 if he can’t lead a team with big names
2023-12-08 15:50
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16 replies
i think he said it pretty well; personalities like sh1ro and mb also hobbit didnt let him be a unanimous leader in the server
2023-12-08 16:12
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14 replies
#50
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Australia jkass
sh1ro was the star and Hobbit is the veteran, they didn’t respect nafany
2023-12-08 18:24
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13 replies
yes but then its not a matter of if he CAN but if hes allowed to lead
2023-12-08 18:46
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12 replies
#52
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Australia jkass
Being allowed to lead is part of CAN you lead ? You need to be able to manage egos as a leader and make them listen and respect you
2023-12-08 18:54
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11 replies
apparently he can lead seeing as he now does in BB. if hes never allowed to lead bc ppl dont trust him from the start he cant show that hes able
2023-12-08 18:55
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9 replies
#54
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Australia jkass
That's on him, if you can't manage high profile players you won't win much Happened to karrigan in 2018, lost the trust of his stars and they kicked him This is even more important than making good calls
2023-12-08 18:58
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8 replies
he didnt lose trust, niko was an entitled rage kid who needed someone to blame for boston. i think sth similar happened here seeing as sh1ro benched himself not long ago.
2023-12-08 19:31
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7 replies
#66
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United States Chuffer
+1, kicking IGLs doesn’t usually work out. Unless you have a solid one already in the team like fnatic in late 2015.
2023-12-08 22:04
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#67
Faceit level 10  | 
m0NESY | 
Poland Banzanic
karrigan himself said the team lost trust in him and he managed to fix how to lead players in mouz, who is right karrigan himself or a pleb on hltv?
2023-12-08 22:05
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5 replies
me (always). also did i hurt your fanboy ego? also what i meant is that his teammates unjustly lost trust; he lead them to a major final and then lost 4 rounds in a row like thats pretty usual. also mb karrigan didnt wanna expose niko/his teammates and chose the diplomatic path to secure his future. also the coming years before karrigan returned are proof enough that they unrightfully "lost faith in him"
2023-12-08 22:09
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4 replies
#74
Faceit level 10  | 
m0NESY | 
Poland Banzanic
not reading after "me(always)", lil bro thinks he knows more about karrigan story than karrigan himself, cya pleb
2023-12-08 22:12
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The most unfair part about boston is no one considers that faze ran into the protagonist of counterstrike stew that day. Stew had some plot armour there to prevent him from losing.
2023-12-09 00:50
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rain, GuardiaN and olof confirmed that as well dude. It was a team decision to remove karrigan, NiKo's ego had nothing to do with that.
2023-12-09 00:57
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1 reply
still it makes no sense for them to lose trust after being 2nd in the world with potential for more. also again the teammates mightve covered as well
2023-12-09 05:48
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Depends. Zeus was very strong as a leader in that sense. I don't think Karrigan is such a leader, but people follow his lead on the server. And it depends always on the player. Niko for example ... I wish we could see him under a leader like zeus. Zywoo doesn't matter who is the IGL he would follow even the dumbest IGL of all time.
2023-12-09 09:13
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gambit youngsters was only good because of him, when he left they got exposed
2023-12-08 16:56
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nafany my GOAT
2023-12-08 15:47
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1 reply
#68
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United States Chuffer
I love nafany
2023-12-08 22:05
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Wonder what the animosity toward cadiaN is all about
2023-12-08 15:50
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10 replies
#9
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NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
why did he have to add the "I don't really like him as a person" xd
2023-12-08 16:00
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3 replies
He's previously said in interviews he can be disrespectful and doesn't like the way he acts sometimes
2023-12-08 17:51
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#69
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United States Chuffer
He’s probably annoying to play against. Like blameF “you are down 11-2, might wanna go for this”.
2023-12-08 22:06
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1 reply
But cadian would actually not choke that lead.
2023-12-09 14:45
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he said previously cadiaN acts like a good guy for public but then screams most insulting shit ever, which is different from other "loud" personalities like Apex who is very loud but means well remember that cadiaN vs TheMongolz fuss? these situations are the reason
2023-12-08 16:34
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5 replies
oh i aren't known that, that you for this info mens))
2023-12-08 16:48
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And if you post forum about CadiaN being disrespectful the post gets deleted xd
2023-12-09 09:22
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2 replies
wtf for real? CadiaN lost all respect there. Holy shit i almost died of cringe while hearing him screaming red faced for no reason at all.
2023-12-12 19:49
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1 reply
2023-12-12 19:51
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#96
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
People still believe him after that fake cry XD. Kiddos nowdays will take anything i guess
2023-12-09 14:07
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Harosh!
2023-12-08 15:54
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#7
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Sweden Vrede
a good revenge
2023-12-08 15:55
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Maybe hobbit was the shadow leader of C9 and still is.
2023-12-08 15:57
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2 replies
He still is
2023-12-08 16:02
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thats why they have to get rid of him
2023-12-08 16:25
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Maui in shambles
2023-12-08 16:00
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11 replies
He already apologized and admitted he was wrong about Nafany
2023-12-08 16:03
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10 replies
hobbot still hasn't
2023-12-08 16:26
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7 replies
hobbit is a snake and I hope he gets kicked asap
2023-12-08 16:29
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6 replies
sh1ro's departure has to be something about hobbot
2023-12-08 16:30
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5 replies
Bro if between Shiro and Hobbit they choosed Hobbit he might have some persuasion talent. He survived so many shuffles its unbelivable. Should have been kicked 6 months ago
2023-12-08 16:33
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4 replies
should have been kicked when they kicked interz
2023-12-08 17:42
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2 replies
This
2023-12-08 18:19
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when ur given a star role and you still can't deliver
2023-12-09 03:11
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#71
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United States Chuffer
good with his mouth )
2023-12-08 22:10
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That wasn't a genuine apology though
2023-12-09 07:36
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1 reply
+1
2023-12-09 18:35
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#14
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Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 7RH
KPACUBblu_nOCTynOK_OT_NAFANY where are at my boy
2023-12-08 16:04
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5 replies
where even this meme came from ?
2023-12-08 16:30
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4 replies
#27
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Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 7RH
I have no idea honestly haha
2023-12-08 16:32
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2 replies
but its funny for some reason xD
2023-12-08 16:34
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1 reply
its from csgo news russian youtube channel I think
2023-12-08 16:55
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I have seen it here youtu.be/l24Zlx9fECs at 1:28 but not sure if that's where it'd came from.
2023-12-09 07:40
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Damn Nafany HATES Cadian
2023-12-08 16:04
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#26
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Romania garcea89
just a question ok would it make sense to -danistz +patsi ?
2023-12-08 16:32
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4 replies
kinda but not really, they have decent kairon-danistzz offensive combo also patsi was good but fell off in TL (not entirely his fault tbf) while danistzz is steadily improving his gamesense and aim and is now way better than he was like 1-2 months ago
2023-12-08 16:39
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3 replies
#41
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Romania garcea89
anybody in TL getting paid huge amounts to just practice and not care about the outcome and result of the game will eventually just downgrade, i agree also that danistzz will improve under nafany or at least they will get good results in the future tnx for anwer
2023-12-08 17:37
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2 replies
np, I also had in mind that BB management trust nafany a lot and he's very cautious about making changes, especially this early, since he was also cut from c9 in a bad way
2023-12-08 17:41
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1 reply
danistzz is his boy
2023-12-08 21:34
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pepothink, gj
2023-12-08 16:52
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#35
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Brazil hugoooo
Imagine being the in game leader, but not the leader
2023-12-08 16:56
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Kairon gigaChad xd
2023-12-08 16:57
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#38
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Netherlands geek3D
sounds like a "you" problem
2023-12-08 17:02
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cadiaN catching strays for no reason lmao
2023-12-08 17:17
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If you host a tournament you might as well invite your own team. I don't see a problem with this.
2023-12-08 17:18
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11 replies
what's funnier ppl complaining usually don't see a problem with teams literally paying for franchise league spots like ESL and Blast
2023-12-08 17:44
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3 replies
i doubt that
2023-12-08 19:37
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1 reply
#72
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United States Chuffer
wdym
2023-12-08 22:11
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+1
2023-12-09 08:02
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#77
Faceit level 10  | 
m0NESY | 
Poland Banzanic
what if falcons host 5mil tournament 1 match which the result is fixed in their favour just to get first place in valve rankings, would that be okay then?
2023-12-08 22:19
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6 replies
Entirely different thing there if there's no competition. But BetBoom team needs to win versus all the tops teams out there.
2023-12-08 23:30
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#80
Faceit level 10  | 
m0NESY | 
Poland Banzanic
its not, they get points for the place in tournament and talking about betboom, just check the groups, they are magically not put based on ranking, but the teams are chosen in favour of betboom, conflict of interest strikes again and valve sadly ll never do anything about it since they have to waste all their time to fight pro players on social media how they know nothing about the game
2023-12-09 00:43
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4 replies
Funny you said that groups are not picked based on ranking. Please open event page and see 'Teams attending' part - groups are selected PERFECTLY based on their Hltv taking. It is one of the most competitive tier 2 events. There are 8 teams ranked from #9 to #19 and BetBoom is right there in the middle.
2023-12-09 08:00
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3 replies
#94
Faceit level 10  | 
m0NESY | 
Poland Banzanic
imgur.com/a/FAAuMyp sure buddy, exactly by ranking xD
2023-12-09 10:16
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2 replies
Still don't get it, do you? Teams #9,12,15,18 in one group, teams #10,13,16,19 in another. They are evenly split by ranking.
2023-12-09 11:07
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#99
Faceit level 10  | 
m0NESY | 
Poland Banzanic
if the seeding was based on ranking the best team always gets to play vs the worst team since this is how the seeding works buddy, and guess what not only those teams are in other groups but also the matchups are rigged. based on the groups(c9 v gamerlagion and betboom v mibr = 10 v 13 and 16 v 19). If the worst team gets to play vs second worst team in their group the seeding is either rigged or random in both cases its not based by ranking, did u finally understand it, or is it still too hard? if it is please dont answer me
2023-12-09 16:27
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Navalny's revenge
2023-12-08 18:07
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#47
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Malaysia biatche
im mostly wondering whats going thru maui's mind now
2023-12-08 18:10
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3 replies
What mind
2023-12-08 21:34
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2 replies
#73
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United States Chuffer
true
2023-12-08 22:11
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+1
2023-12-08 22:19
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HAROOOOSH
2023-12-08 18:16
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ik what he means but still I wasn't a Leader but I was an In-game Leader?
2023-12-08 19:43
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1 reply
it means he is just the leader in the game but not the leader outside the server
2023-12-09 03:12
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#58
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ScreaM | 
Dominican Republic casxd
NAFANY: "IN CLOUD9 I WASN'T A LEADER AT ALL, I WAS ONLY THE IGL (In Game Leader)
2023-12-08 20:03
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that headline goes hard!!
2023-12-08 20:18
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What does IGL stand for, nafany?
2023-12-08 21:01
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2 replies
#62
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Japan Ixlide
he was their IGL but he wasn't the leader outside the server that's not that hard to comprehend
2023-12-08 21:04
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#75
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United States Chuffer
+1, I don’t know why people think that sounds dumb. Same thing with gla1ve saying his goal isn’t for ence to be a top5, it’s for them to win. Obviously he wants to be in top5. Makes me question the IQ of the average user lol
2023-12-08 22:12
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Drako <3
2023-12-08 21:04
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#63
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Slovakia sniks
Ego, and what you say, is everything. We can see it in everyone's matches. Best thing is to grow up and realize, that you need to treat people as equals. If everyone did this, we wouldn't have toxic teammates in games, we wouldn't have that many roster shuffles in pro play.
2023-12-08 21:07
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Congrats
2023-12-09 03:18
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HAROSH
2023-12-09 09:40
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This Kazakh matchfixer deprives us of a super Russian team ffs
2023-12-09 18:26
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