apEX: "For me, it's always been hard to get recognition from people"

The French captain is happy to finally receive some community plaudits.

An entry fragger in his early days, Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire's transition to one of the elite IGLs is a story for the ages. The 30-year-old took on the role in Vitality and won a plethora of accolades during his tenure at the helm of the project.

His team won the BLAST.tv Paris Major during 2023 and was named as HLTV's Team of the Year, while apEX took home the IGL of the Year award. Despite this, the French captain remains vigilant about dropping off ahead of the new season.

After he and his team demolished OG in the opening round of the BLAST Spring Groups, apEX sat down with HLTV to discuss his recent awards, Vitality's expectations for 2024, and his increased fragging output.


You've just played your first official this year, a 13-0 victory. That must feel good, right?

I think it's the first time in my life I won something 13-0 or 16-0, which is pretty satisfying, even more so when it's the start of a new year. We played well, a bit shaky on the CT side on Inferno at some point, but it's normal when you have a big advantage, you get too much in your head, I would say. A good day.

You now move to the upper bracket final where you might face off against Falcons. How will that feel for you? Do you want to face them or would you rather avoid them?

People ask me who I want to face and I don't really care if we have to play Falcons. It will be a special game for us against the old coach, the old performance coach, and the old player in Magisk. Of course, it's going to be something for us that we want to win, but we're ready for everyone right now. We're not focusing on the others, we're just focusing on the team. We did so well at the end of last year and for us, it's so important that we try to do exactly the same this year and create something nice.

You said you ended last year very well. You're now the number-one team in the world. So do you expect to keep that going and win titles?

It's never that easy. We saw after the winter break, after a new year, a lot of teams struggling after dominating the year. Of course, 2023 has been a Vitality year, but you never know. FaZe had struggled at the beginning of 2023, and NAVI as well because of the war, but it's always been like that. Only Astralis I think have made it to the next year. So it's going to be important just to focus on ourselves. We don't expect to win the big tournaments, of course, we are favorites, but in our heads, we are just trying to rebuild what worked for us last year and give our best to make it happen.

I want to ask you as the IGL of the team, Vitality went through the addition of flameZ and addition of mezii, but you still stayed on top all the time. What do you think helps you do that?

I think the first thing that comes to my mind is that we have a strong core that plays really well, me as IGL, ZywOo, and Spinx. I have less firepower and the two guys with a lot of firepower. So I think it's been easier to get any player into the team [because of that], we always try to put them in the best conditions. One guy who's been pretty good at integrating players is also karrigan, he has always been like a good IGL integrating stand-ins, he's the king of the stand-ins.

It's about playing your game, but most likely trying to help the guys integrate as fast as possible, to make them comfortable, and do their moves. And if they get just a bit of confidence, then they can roll fast. So for us, it's a combination of these things.

You said in the core of you, Spinx and ZywOo, that those two have more firepower, and you don't. But since CS2 came out, you've been putting up some really good numbers. Do you feel individually better in this game?

For now, yeah, I tried to play differently. I've been missing a lot of shots in CS:GO by just spraying and not really focusing on myself. Now I'm trying to have a different playstyle, not too NiKo-ish, but trying to take my time in duels and getting better at that. I've been in the best shape for quite some time, even though it's not the most important thing that I play well. But if I do, it adds to the team even more because my goal is to put my four players at the top. If they are, we're going to win titles because it's like that in CS. With the players I have, if they perform, the other team will be scared for sure.

You also had a coach change recently with XTQZZZ returning to the team. So how has it been working with him again?

The beginning was really weird, to be honest. We changed a lot in two years, and we didn't expect to lose zonic, so it took a bit of time to make things happen. We had a bootcamp and everything, but I would say that XQTZZZ is a LAN coach and not a practice coach. He's pretty quiet in the preparation but really vocal on LAN. It was weird at the beginning, but when we came back to the LAN in Copenhagen, I felt him again and felt our connection was still there.

We were still aligned on a lot of things and it just feels good. I think I repeat it a lot lately, but he's a fantastic coach. He and zonic are the best of the best for me, and I just hope he's going to get recognized as the best by winning some big tournaments. It's also part of my goal this year to win the big ones for him because he deserves to have big trophies as a coach, he's a really good coach.

Talking about this season, you skipped the RMR qualifiers, I'm sure you're happy about that. So did this help you to enter the season a bit more rested and work on the things that you need to work on?

Yes. I think that it was the first time we had a two or three-week break in a couple of years, which was amazing, being with family and having fun. I told my guys that it was the best thing that could happen. We finished the year with two wins, we had a longer break, and we can focus on the LANs we have. It's just a pleasure to be able to do it.

We have to use that to keep trying to win tournaments and be the best we can be. For me, you never know who is going to be the best on the day. It's just about reaching those semis all the time and trying to be consistent. And then, of course, if we are the best on that day, we might win tournaments because as I said, we have really good players. So the focus is on that for now.

I know you spoke about it at the Award Show, but Vitality has been named Team of the Year. You have been named the IGL of the Year. How does it feel to receive such recognition for your efforts?

I had three big goals coming up to 2023. The first one was to win the Paris Major because it was a dream for us, and we accomplished that, it was the biggest goal. I tried everything I could, even though it's 0.01%, to help ZywOo to be back in the number-one spot because this guy is too talented to not be first, even though s1mple is also the GOAT of CS. The other goals were to be the best IGL of the year as well as the best team.

For me, it's always been hard to get recognition from people. I felt it's always been, 'you have ZywOo, you can perform' or whatever, and never really what I bring to the players. It's always about the negativity because of my emotions. So it felt good to be awarded for something myself, something I did for four years. And I was just super happy to get that, it meant a lot because in 2014 and 2015, I was one of the best entry fraggers in the world, and transitioning to another role and being the best is something not many people will do. So I'm happy about that and I'm going to try my best.

France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
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#1
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Bhutan testingTheories
i recognize u bro
2024-01-22 19:56
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Finland seGnia
me too
2024-01-22 19:56
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Belgium n1cof
im here too
2024-01-22 20:09
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apesex bestest
2024-01-22 20:22
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Poland GOD999999
Apex we recognize you! Great leader!
2024-01-22 20:40
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How do you not recognize the Apex, man is funny, good IGL and was once an entry frager.
2024-01-22 20:43
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France HippzZ
Based
2024-01-22 21:20
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+1
2024-01-23 08:35
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Ukraine smakolyk
+1
2024-01-25 23:09
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XD
2024-01-22 19:56
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i see you what you do Dan. love <3
2024-01-22 19:59
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I'm afraid you won't get any recognition as long as you're playing next to the most OP player in CS history
2024-01-22 20:01
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Never doubt aleksi indomitable power to throw
2024-01-22 20:02
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Belgium n1cof
lmfao
2024-01-22 20:09
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Can you post, for once, something meaningful?
2024-01-23 02:16
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It's true tho, people don't appreciate apEX
2024-01-23 02:23
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??? but people do appreciated him
2024-01-23 03:57
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not as an IGL
2024-01-24 12:18
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Haha
2024-01-23 07:30
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Grow up and stop talking bs , in soccer teams you ignore all other players except for Messi and Ronaldo ? nope , different roles. As a Captain and IGL he's one of the GOATs , only delusional haters deny this.
2024-01-23 11:30
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Stop telling people what to do
2024-01-23 11:38
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"I think it's the first time in my life I won something 13-0 or 16-0" hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/19067/.. hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/16031/..
2024-01-22 20:01
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2nd link invalid, he was playing with a cheater
2024-01-22 20:02
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against matchfixer so it's ok
2024-01-22 22:38
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Maniac went 0.82 in a 16-0 win skull emoji
2024-01-22 20:02
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this was when he was all skill, no brain
2024-01-22 20:24
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With good ratings too, that's nice to see thanks
2024-01-23 12:08
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Europe fojacko
"think" is the keyword you didn't read, I don't think it's possible for apex to remember the result of all 2216 recorded maps he has played on HLTV. Especially when these maps are 8 + 10 years old respectively.
2024-01-27 12:25
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Canada treesap
Exactly my thoughts
2024-01-29 17:16
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People are mean. You win = you got carried ; you lose = you're the problem. You can never please some morons but who cares in the end.
2024-01-22 20:01
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Belgium n1cof
ive nothing to add mate
2024-01-22 20:12
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+1
2024-01-22 20:26
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the mec
2024-01-22 20:13
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Apex just want attention, thats the type of guy he is :)
2024-01-22 20:13
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yeah I'd say he did it in the most straight forward way as well
2024-01-22 20:16
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+1
2024-01-22 21:53
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yeah, so u want to proven urself. Go making a team with all randoms to tier 1. Oh wait, what did happen to last French vitality lineup xD, bro would've been dogshit if the org hasn't throwed a hugh amount of money to current lineup, delusional
2024-01-22 20:19
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African Union NotZazir
what are u on? with shit players like misutaa, fucking 0.8 rating kyojin and shox he won two tournament and went in the quarter final of the only major, almost beating NaVi with kyo fucking jin and apeX won like 3 other trophies with the french lineup before the international linup, u so delusional,
2024-01-22 20:22
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then what is to be proved at here, good igl makes player good. So u tell me what tf does botpex do in this team actually expect screaming shit all round
2024-01-22 20:24
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African Union NotZazir
igl makes good player indeed, but an igl surely win you tournament. you can't tell me apeX made kennyS and ZywOo tho dawg that means u know nothing bout what u talking bout xD Casual COL fan
2024-01-23 02:23
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2024-01-23 06:31
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and for the additional to the useless of botpex, this guy literally spent 3 years from 2020 to 2022 with nothing until vitality had to go international roster, yeah with all players have been proved themselves before, so u tell me again. WHAT did actually botpex do in team?
2024-01-22 20:32
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„3 years from 2020-2022“ Math checks out mate
2024-01-22 21:46
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2020-2021-2022 ????
2024-01-22 21:51
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nvm im dumb
2024-01-22 22:49
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France Nexus67
But once again, your absolutly wrong, IGL with terrible player can't make them god. Who's karrigan without ropz/rain/broky, who's hooxie without Niko/Monesy, who was Bomm4l without S1mple. Its just stupid to think like this, if a IGL wasn't a big part of the success, there would be 5 stars on the server and no IGL since for you a 1.00 rating IGL is terrible.
2024-01-23 01:04
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African Union NotZazir
ahah yes misutaa and Kyojin certainly were known before u dumbass xD and rpk won like no title in csgo before vitality u really dont know what u talking about its funny xd
2024-01-23 02:24
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i smell some botpex cock rider at here so yeah wasted time for explaining to a newbie who is fucking cluess about this game so yeah u win
2024-01-23 06:31
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African Union NotZazir
u have no argument its funny so u play the ''i have no time to explain" card, cringe af
2024-01-23 22:15
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Why are u hating apex so much? Im not his fan but if u say He IS bad igl you must be delusional. Look at karrigan, what has He achieved with bad players? Maybe like one or two tournaments as apex did. You cant be the Best igl when ur teammates cant frag.
2024-01-23 06:13
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don't hate botpex, just hate how people so fucking cluless about this guy igl ability, really really overrated like top 5 igl of all time xD, i swear whenever i read this shit like this i just lmao
2024-01-23 06:28
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Nobody said anything about top 5 of all time. Just that he was good in 2021(despite NaVi),2023
2024-01-23 08:05
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Your the goat no need to prove it
2024-01-22 20:30
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French legend always, even if its Zywoo having a field day now that s1mple is gone. This guy won a major as an entry player also, don't forget.
2024-01-22 20:35
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Braindead lvl 2 bots hating hard. He is a good leader, brings the hype, and is actually a pretty decent igl. He is a great fit for the team. I don't think any other igl would be able to do a better job.
2024-01-22 20:37
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Literally any igl from a top 50 team could have Vitality top 2. He has 4 top 20 players. It's a joke giving him credit.
2024-01-23 06:39
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at what point did he have 4 top 20 players?
2024-01-23 16:08
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Sweden Bjorn_Fjell
Bro you're french of course nobody cares about you XD
2024-01-22 20:52
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I am curious, why's that? I am canadian btw, true question and curious
2024-01-23 01:54
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United States usurpator
Just people shitting on us on the internet But they dont do it when they come here as a tourist, they will be soft like sheeps :)
2024-01-23 06:49
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not helping. Wanted the vision of Bjorn
2024-01-23 16:11
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Europe fojacko
The people "shitting us on the internet" aren't Disney adults and don't give a shit about a tower and some art that you can view for free online instead of seeing 1 inch of it from the back of the room. I have been to Paris, Marseilles, Versailles, Saint-denis and a few other places and the country is just whelming, like a 6/10, not a bad experience but not great either. Switzerland and Netherlands are far superior holiday destinations IMO (and cheaper if you are avoiding the major tourist trap destinations, which i 100% recommend doing for any country, stay in a nearby town/city and just spend a day or 2 in the big cities).
2024-01-27 12:47
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United States usurpator
"The people "shitting us on the internet" aren't Disney adults" most of them are you will never encounter someone shitting on us IRL, but they will speak a lot of shit on the internet. + i dont really care about the tourists in my country as we get more and more every year, so your opinion doesnt really matter to me (also its funny to say as Netherlands and Switzerlands are both boring when it comes to culture, architecture, art, etc.)
2024-01-27 12:52
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Apex <3 the best IGL CS has ever had
2024-01-22 21:27
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If it weren't for zywoo, apex probably would have disappeared from cs zywoo made alex look like a good igl, then he left the team and he no longer had the same success in other team
2024-01-22 21:36
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aPEX recognition is because of a man who is a specimen of the game
2024-01-22 21:37
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Recently Apex has left an impression that he is arrogant, tbh
2024-01-22 21:44
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I mean Zywoo carried your ass and gave you an IGL career in early 2020-2021 days .
2024-01-22 21:55
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I mean winning at least one tournie every single year is a feat
2024-01-22 21:55
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Canada rayrayrayray
I like him but they typically lose when he cant hold B site
2024-01-22 22:06
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He's lucky that Zywoo seems a pretty level-headed guy - every other team that's hada French star and a French/Belgian IGL has ended in tears after one of them throws their toys out the pram
2024-01-23 00:19
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Deserved Legend!
2024-01-23 01:56
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United States webchilla
I still hold a grudge from the Paris major. The crowd was chanting "APEKS" after they lost to vita and were eliminated. Then Apex grabs the mic and says something like "Hear that? They're cheering for ME!" Bro its your home crowd. You cant let Apeks have their 2 minute moment? F tier sportsmanship. Other than that he seems like a solid dude lol.
2024-01-23 02:06
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France Gabenjaa
WTF Is this story lmfaoo, i was in paris major i don't even know what are you talking about and tbh, it's really likely that it's was in fact a a chant for him, and if not, it's was surely a joke, i know when he speaks in english he can look cocky or whatever but if you could understand french ( like in interview or whatever) he's really not the guy you seem to think he is.
2024-01-23 02:32
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United States webchilla
It was a very tiny moment. Probably easy to miss in person. It was when banks was interviewing them after the match. Banks said "Give it up for Apeks they gave a great run!" apEX dropped his line and banks replied to him "yeah yeah They've been cheering for you all day mate." It's their last few minutes on stage, and last applause after a crazy underdog run. Shitting on it even in jest is a little uncool. But again. Tiny moment. It doesn't matter at all and not that serious, but I was an apeks fan so it made me butt hurt lmao.
2024-01-23 17:15
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Maybe cause you're a bot
2024-01-23 02:24
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worst igl of all time, only won things because he is carried, shame
2024-01-23 03:35
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+1
2024-01-23 06:38
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Warms my heart to see apex doing this well. I remember him from all the way back in titan, and now he is doing so good. Stay cool and keep fragging, king!
2024-01-23 04:17
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So deserved tho I always see him to put in nerd language: snake peeps from harry pot.
2024-01-23 06:08
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He's mediocre as fuck. You could make esetag the IGL and that team is top 3. Nothing about apex is why they win. He's the luckiest fuckin player of all time. He has 4 top 20 players.
2024-01-23 06:37
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Well he still won tournaments with washed up french players in 2019, 2020 and 2021 He even won some with Kyojin Yeah, ZywOo's on the team But if one player made a team, Niko wouldn't have waited 5 years without winning any trophy
2024-01-23 07:43
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Niko has never been close to Zywoos level. Zywoo is worth 2 Nikos.
2024-01-23 07:47
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NiKo last 4-3 months of 2021 was on par with zywoo hltv.org/stats/players/3741/niko?startDa.. Es3tag was secondary calling after Alex had huge players, mezii was player there too and they both failed. The Collosus was the biggest shitfiesta but you left that part out, you say 4 top 20 players. As far as i know mezii wasnt top 20 yet neither flameZ, only 3 Magisk,Spinx and ZywOo which means now 2 since Magisk left. Also flameZ which somehow plays the anchor position really well after being rotator same with mezii he is doing way better. So i think apEX has impact, not to mention saying ZywOo carries is not completely wrong but not also fully possible with ZywOo which wants to always help his teammates being too selfless. ZywOo in early days wanted to literally entry & go first instead of his teammates which obviously would be really bad. The IGL's have to actually at this point counter that personality trait or put it to the minimum. Another thing was that shox played as IGL instead of apeX and they lost to EG and CoL
2024-01-23 08:19
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Apex does nothing. It's the individuals skills. You act like apex somehow makes Flamez a God anchor. No. Flamez being top 20 and amazing makes him a God anchor. Mezii and Flamez are top 15 in skill easy. But they were on bad teams and you LITERALLY cannot get top 20 without results, it's not Stat based. It's team success based.
2024-01-23 10:00
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You must be absolutely delusional with that statement, flameZ never played anchor before neither did fully mezii played it. They were rotators, every IGL will tell you that this manouver will work only 20% of the time flameZ was OG star player and mezii was fnatic Star player turned IGL and then back to star player. It's like saying every IGL is carried by good players then why not liquidate IGL role then? and see how the CS plays and for the fact the arguments don't even suit your statement. Vitality has absolutely insane teamplay and this is actually why they won vs FaZe
2024-01-23 10:07
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Roll. The IGLs did nothing to make those 2 amazing. That's the entire fuckin point. Flamez and Mezii and individual gods. Thus THEY ADAPTED and are incredible. Lol a coach cannot make someone do that. Check the 300 roster issues and clashes through history. INDIVIDUALS LEARN to thrive in roles. IGLs don't like "hey do this now you're a great anchor" you're fuckin delusional to his impact.
2024-01-23 10:08
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That's not the entire point. Adaptation is a thing of possibility but not complete confirmation. There are players in fact even mezii didn't adapt in C9 which you literally criticised Alex for, another thing. I don't know what is your understanding of what i said, IGL and coach aligns the role to the player. Obviously players improve on themselves, but IGL has to align with analyst and coach on the analysis of the enemy team and counter strat them. Most of the time, it is visible at the moment in Vitality. It wasn't as visible in fall finals and you are using this as example but in World Finals and starting 2024 they seem to predict moves of enemy team with ease.
2024-01-23 10:10
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ZERO majors until he had a stacked team lol.
2024-01-23 10:13
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apEX had 1 major as entryfragger with kennys,nbk,happy,kio though. He has 2 majors EDIT: Listen an IGL doesn't need insane performances individually he should just work with his team and apEX atm is doing it + adding individual performance. The hate on him is because of his behaviour and argument that he does it with good players + how he played in 2022, he did it with worse players obviously before (french lineups). But he does bring strats, calls that's a logical argument that anyone should follow
2024-01-23 10:21
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Literally every player on Vitality is better than their Faze counterpart lol. Better awp. Better anchor. Equal main rifle. None of this is Apex.
2024-01-23 10:09
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mezii isn't comfortable with anchoring first of all. frozen i don't really know how he feels but he was much better individually in 2023 so frozen > mezii ropz is slightly better than spinx to tell opposite is absolutely denying reality. ropz>Spinx broky obv is worse than zywoo its zywoo ZywOo>>>broky rain i think flameZ could edge him here because of the potential but rain is much better when it comes to big games so its flamez = rain atm. apEX has been playing individually way better at the end of the year. but its quite equal with apex=karrigan however apex firepower (1.13) - last 3 months is way bigger than karrigan atm
2024-01-23 10:14
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United States usurpator
The only reason people hate him is because hes playing with very good players, but no on ever did bring a logical argument which clearly analyzes its impact in the game whether through its calls, strats, etc. They're just shitting on him without even knowing why
2024-01-23 06:51
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4 top 20 level players. Thet don't even need an igl. It's basically a premier league team playing vs American Futbol.
2024-01-23 07:48
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#182
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United States usurpator
Yeah thats what im saying just above....
2024-01-23 07:51
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either i don't understand your argument or the guy essentially is saying apEX is useless though. Which is opposite to your argument
2024-01-23 10:15
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United States usurpator
His argument is... Not an argument explaining how apex is bad at his role, thats the problem with hltv users and cs debates here. People lack rational explanation and they will just shit on everyone as long as hes not top1 lol Theres a reason why most pro rather browse reddit than hltv So with his comment it literally goes on the same logic that i explained above: people dont analyze his game but they will just trash him "because he has good players with him so hes useless"
2024-01-23 10:30
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Yeah sadly true, i feel like IGL's are underrated because statistics are put higher than their contribution. There's one exception though if IGL and everybody fails they will shit on the entire team which also put in perspective that Vitality wasn't in that position never even with Kyojin and misutaaa
2024-01-23 10:31
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United States usurpator
I never understood why they took this cheater kyojin at first place anyway
2024-01-23 10:52
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neither did i, but most likely i think the anwser was that Vita org knew the roster is not gonna survive and they were going international so they saved money on CS roster.
2024-01-23 10:55
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Any igl in tier 2 and up would have EXACT RESULTS. Apex brings nothing dynamic, new, interesting or compelling. ALL his success is due to having the greatest player ever and multiple top 20 talents. It's a simple argument but I know the French education system is trash so your brain hurts.
2024-01-27 12:59
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#245
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United States usurpator
"Any igl in tier 2 and up would have EXACT RESULTS." you have any proof or rational explanation to that including tactical analysis or you're speaking without any knowledge?
2024-01-27 13:00
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He had ZERO success until given the best players on Earth lololol. Pretty easy to analyze. He NEVER elevated anyone on his rosters in 8 years. Once GIVEN God tier players. Wow. Success. MUST be his calling lolol. Tiny brain
2024-01-27 13:01
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#247
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United States usurpator
So you got no rational explanation and tactical analysis but just an empirical argument? okay, thats your opinion tho but i was expecting a smarter response, it feels like people are having a hard time analysing tactical gameplay and giving rational arguments. But i respect your argument even tho its not convincing.
2024-01-27 13:03
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Hahaha I could go gather the 20 teammates exact stats and show you how's as an IGL he improved literally no one. I could pull 8 years worth of articles that would show NOT ONCE has been called an innovater or tactical genius. I could pull up that he's not even an entry and has one of the fastest death times on server due to his terrible positioning. But I have a real life and girlfriend. Go look all this up yourself. He's a Mediocre fraud given God's gifts as players in this lineup. Like I said. Literally any tier2 and up igl could do what he does. Basic defaults and let Zywoo and Spinx carry. Wow what a fuckin tactical genius.
2024-01-27 13:07
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#250
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United States usurpator
You keep going with an empirical argument, again, if you have a rational argument analysing his tactics and explaining how they are bad im open to discussion, but for now you're still not convincing me (and it seems to make you angry behind your monitor)
2024-01-27 13:10
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I did. ITS YOU. Who provided literally nothing. Hahah how are his teammates stats and 8 years of no results empirical arguments. You don't even know the word you're using.
2024-01-27 13:11
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#254
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United States usurpator
you did not: #244 is just crying without bringing any argument #246 is the same without bringing any argument about the tactical point of view, but more of a "he plays with best players thats why he gets carried" #248 you're talking statwise, not tacticalwise + no one cares about your life and your girlfriend how is it related to the discussion? #249 using words you dont know + still not a tactical analysis.. in short you're wasting my and your time and you seem frustrated. Its cool friend, but do not fall in the agressivity because you're 100% chill and soft behind the monitor, no reason to act like a tough guy when you're not convincing the guy you're discussing with.
2024-01-27 13:14
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Can you name ONE strat he invented? One set of new nades? NAME ONE FUCKIN UNIQUE THING about him as an igl. YOU are the one giving zero logical arguments. Ad hominem useless
2024-01-27 13:08
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#251
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United States usurpator
this isnt the definition of ad hominem. dont use words you dont know! + im asking people that are trashing apex their argument when it comes to his tactics, something they analyzed, otherwise their arguments means nothing. Im not saying anything about his tactics, im saying that hltv users are not logical/smart enough to provide a rational explanation on his tactics. literally with your comments your approving what i say at #176
2024-01-27 13:11
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OK. So you CANT name a single unique thing about him as an igl. You CANT name a single tactical thing he invented or is known for. You CANT name a single nade lineup he does. You CANT find any good results from him until he got God tier players. Just double checking. You have nothing for your side of the debate while I have 8 years of evidence. Hahahahahaha. Thanks for the win. Type more useless paragraphs that provide nothing. Descartes indeed
2024-01-27 13:14
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#255
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United States usurpator
You have difficulty understanding words and you use words that you do not master. Using these words doesn't make you smarter, especially since Ad Hominem has nothing to do with the discussion and there actually isn't one. In addition, you have difficulty understanding basic words: I never said that apex had the best tactics, the best grenade throwing etc, I say that 100% of users on HLTV have no rational argument for the tactics he uses, no in-depth analysis, just children crying over statistics. This is also why I said above that the pros do not prefer to go to HLTV to get the players' opinions, but rather to Reddit. Again, #176.
2024-01-27 13:17
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Ahhahaha you have typed a novel and literally said nothing. Incredible analysis. I wish I could live in your fake world of "I get to say nothing of substance, pretend 8 years of stats and results are not evidence, ignore EVERY quality that makes a good igl amd just be like. Derp reddit" and walk away smug. Your parents told you you're smart way too much. You're not. Typed 33 paragraphs and provided ZERO evidence of how or why Apex is good. Incredible dissonance by you. Good night dummy.
2024-01-27 13:23
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#257
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United States usurpator
I'm literally explaining my first comment on #176 to you because you continue the same stupidity: giving an empirical argument because you are incapable of giving a rational and intelligent analysis of the tactical approach that apex has on the game. And well anyway i didnt notice but #188 literally destroys everything you said lol.
2024-01-27 13:26
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Oh BTW. Outcalled hilariously bad today and was useless per usual even with Zywoo god. Mediocre IGL.
2024-01-27 19:50
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#260
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United States usurpator
2-1 and qualified but keep crying son
2024-01-27 20:14
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11 replies
Oh. Outcalled again. He's fuckin useless if his 3 top 20 players don't top 20 for him. Actual joke of an igl
2024-02-03 23:55
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#270
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United States usurpator
daaaaaaaaaaaaamn your life is saaaaaaaaad to hop on my comment instantly after he loses :D + you still didnt explain your argument in a rational way ;D
2024-02-04 21:26
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9 replies
Annd outcalled and provided zero value again.
2024-02-05 19:41
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8 replies
#272
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United States usurpator
Your life is so sad my lil bro <3 when apex wins tournament you disappear, when he loses you appear like a rat ;D (your still intellectually incapable of giving a tactical analysis tho)
2024-02-06 06:48
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Oh an outcalled and useless again.
2024-02-20 18:51
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6 replies
#276
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United States usurpator
didnt hear you last two matches =)
2024-02-20 19:00
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5 replies
B01s vs bottom 80 teams. Hahahahhaha. Vitality have lost every real match for a month. Didn't hear you then either apex sucker
2024-02-21 05:17
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#279
Faceit level 10  | 
flameZ | 
Morocco swagz1
you're so fucking stupid it's actually painful, wtf is wrong with you lil bro
2024-02-21 05:37
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2 replies
Peanut butter mouth Frenchman sucks off other Frenchman. Shock and awe
2024-02-21 06:17
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1 reply
#281
Faceit level 10  | 
flameZ | 
Morocco swagz1
Blud is restarted Noooooooob
2024-02-21 07:14
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#283
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United States usurpator
Ah yes heroic bottom 80 team with GL LUL I dont mind if he loses, it happens to everyone, but you're proving my point everytime as you're not intellectually able to give a proper analysis but just talking about the result Im renting free in your head son, but keep commenting each time they lose so im aware that your life is still sad :-))
2024-02-21 07:33
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this is the stupidest shit i ever read on hltv xD
2024-02-21 08:06
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uh hello? g2 with jks, astralis with stavn jabbi, they did/doing good but neither have gotten close to or will get close to vits level.
2024-01-23 08:38
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#183
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Malaysia Rich1eG0h
I recognize you, but I prefer if you don't make too much noise during LAN.
2024-01-23 07:54
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apex is mediocre caller, good enough to let his stars carry the game
2024-01-23 11:03
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Always had awesome fragging ability, quite often at critical times for the team. Is surely the best smoke fragger too, it's just unreal. Then the ability to deflect attention during all those cringe tournament interviews and quizzes to take the pressure off his team. The partnership with Zywoo, and then calling it right for the team. The guy has it all, and I can't even hold it against him for being French.
2024-01-23 11:23
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take off your pink glasses
2024-01-25 18:20
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This guy makes 30k in a month playing videogame and cries about recognition? What the...
2024-01-23 15:54
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#216
Faceit premium user Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
SPERMY | 
Norway hemy
watching this guy since forever, I was even in the shower with a friend of mine from college, Cody. Cody and I has been a fan. Like die hard fans. Yesterday he soaped me in and we agreed upon watching some more CS2 during this year. CS2 deserves more recognition too I feel. While the steamer was on we also talked about the cheating issue at the moment. Its really bad
2024-01-23 16:08
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streets wont forget envyus apex
2024-01-23 19:25
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#224
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Mongolia k0ng0
Actually I respect this guy more than I ever have right now. The way he has transitioned from the most hard entry role we have seen to becoming a team leader and IGL is really inspiring.
2024-01-23 19:44
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What a clown...
2024-01-23 20:32
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3 replies
you are, yes
2024-01-23 20:34
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1 reply
What happened, mate? :(
2024-01-24 01:19
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+1 botes
2024-01-23 23:21
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#227
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Estonia Eduzera
terrible igl and player
2024-01-23 20:34
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ofc because he is a disgrace to this community! bad igl, terrible player and even worse human...
2024-01-23 23:21
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#233
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Nicaragua jaqueeeez
I respected you brother, and i will continue to respect you 👌 ★ You are still quality product beyond all trash which is coming from online CS platforms last 6-7 y. ★ Congratz for all achievements in 2023 ★
2024-01-24 02:31
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Lol gtfo. apEX has gotten the credit he deserves and then some. It's a mystery to me how he is still in tier 1 and how people can play under him. If my IGL was tilting this much even often MID-ROUND I'd find another team as quickly as I could.
2024-01-25 16:35
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I think the problem is Every member on Vitality wants to play with ZywOo, actually just every player in the world probably and apEx is just a package deal somehow
2024-01-27 16:25
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I mean he is not wrong, he proved to lose a lot of games, even with 3+ superstars next to him. why should he get credit? his numbers confirm that he has not much to show for
2024-01-25 18:18
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I mean when you are ret4rd who screams at kids who would love you except similar r3tarded kids?
2024-01-26 15:14
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#240
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom philoromaios
Yea, about that.. I think it would help his case a lot if he wouldn't be clowning around every match, shouting stuff at the opposition when ZyWoo makes an insane play and he died 10 seconds in the round. The other day was so preoccupied of BlameF's plays, shouting "you need to win some rounds" and "come tomorrow" , he forgot they need to win some rounds of their own. I understand that's his personality, but more often than not things are coming out as lack of respect.
2024-01-26 18:08
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so wholesome <3 love apex
2024-01-28 05:58
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My GOAT
2024-01-28 10:06
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#263
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Latvia theOne19
Of course. Cause you are a 30-year old man who often acts like a monkey. Start to behave and you'll get the recognition that you deserve.
2024-01-28 16:37
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#264
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
Acting like a child whole game then screaming and standing up when you get your noob ass carried for years. Deserves less recognition
2024-01-28 16:47
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1 reply
"noob ass" being top1 n1 brain u have
2024-01-29 21:22
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This boy cries so much. Grow up and be a fkn man.
2024-01-31 05:29
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#269
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Portugal ReyZ555
i wonder why...
2024-02-04 00:02
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apEX >>>> zywh0
2024-02-20 18:52
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2 replies
Ur idol basically admitted Sunpayus>him in as an awper lmao
2024-02-20 18:54
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should've known earlier what happened with his grandmother, apologies for the insensitive shit and hopefully he feels better
2024-02-20 19:37
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