From foes to friends to foes again: TaZ and NEO meet in Katowice playoffs

The two biggest names in Polish Counter-Strike will clash once again, ten years on from their Major success at Spodek.

TaZ and NEO have both gone into coaching

Tomorrow afternoon, when G2 and FaZe take the stage at Spodek for their quarter-final bout, it likely won’t be stars like Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool, Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač or Ilya "⁠m0NESY⁠" Osipov getting the most cheers from the crowd but the two coaches leading the teams.

Wiktor "⁠TaZ⁠" Wojtas and Filip "⁠NEO⁠" Kubski are returning to the same arena where, ten years ago, they helped create the greatest moment in Polish Counter-Strike history. That epic victory in the grand final of the EMS One Katowice Major against NIP cemented their status as legends in a country that they put on the map during their long and illustrious playing careers.

"The entire Polish story at IEM Katowice is the story of Virtus.pro, namely NEO and TaZ’s 2014 victory," Łukasz Pożyczek, a Polish analyst and caster, told HLTV.

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TaZ and NEO formed the longest partnership in the Counter-Strike franchise, but they began their careers on opposite sides of the trenches, their teams developing a fierce rivalry with one another during the early 2000s. "You could compare it to the Detroit Pistons and the Chicago Bulls," TaZ told Duncan "⁠Thorin⁠" Shields in October. "It was like that. We really didn’t like each other."

They eventually banded together and went on to form what would become the ‘Golden Five’, one of the most dominant teams in CS 1.6, winning a plethora of international titles under different organizations (and sometimes without an organization at all).

After a rough start to CS:GO, they rediscovered success in the new game, and perhaps history would give that Virtus.pro roster even more recognition had they defeated Astralis in the grand final of ELEAGUE Major Atlanta 2017 and joined the select club of teams with more than one Major crown.

TaZ and NEO knew how to work together despite their almost polar-opposite personalities. NEO was the silent, naturally gifted star, and TaZ the vocal and plain-spoken captain who dabbled in the art of trash talk and did not mind keeping the attention on himself, if only to entertain. "They are undoubtedly two separate worlds," Pożyczek said.

Virtus.pro won the Major in Katowice ten years ago

TaZ is still taking his first steps as a coach, with IEM Katowice being only his second LAN event behind the team after replacing Jan "⁠Swani⁠" Müller at the end of last season. NEO is a bit more experienced in the role, having taken up coaching in July 2023, and he has already overseen two LAN titles in CS2, earning a permanent position with FaZe after a four-month trial.

Their yin and yang personalities can also be seen in the nature of their coaching jobs. Like his predecessor, Robert "⁠RobbaN⁠" Dahlström, NEO prefers to work in the shadows as the right-hand man to Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen and a cog in the well-oiled FaZe machine. By contrast, TaZ was hired to be more of an authoritative figure and pull the reins tighter on a team that had enjoyed too much freedom at times. “He [TaZ] knows when people need to hear what they don’t want to hear,” Rasmus "⁠HooXi⁠" Nielsen told HLTV in December.

The first weeks of the tournament season have shown that both teams teams still need to find their best form ahead of the European RMRs and the Copenhagen Major.

FaZe showed some signs of weakness in the BLAST Premier Spring Groups, where they lost one match to GamerLegion and won the other one only in three maps, and they had to work extremely hard to beat Eternal Fire in the group stage of IEM Katowice. Against the red-hot Spirit, they were simply outclassed on Nuke after a close Mirage game.

“I don't think we really were there honestly, on the second map, even though the first map was looking completely different,” David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský said about the loss to Spirit. "[I'm] a little disappointed that it ended that way, but it's better to lose like this in this match than later in the tournament.”

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G2 had a bumpy route in Copenhagen, where they beat a misfiring Ninjas in Pyjamas squad and the new-look Liquid and twice lost to Natus Vincere, but they have looked like an improved side in Katowice, though their over-reliance on m0NESY and NiKo -— the team’s only players with an above-average tournament rating — remains a cause for concern.

“The first weeks were full of emotions,” TaZ told HLTV. “The results were not exactly the ones that I expected, but it was for the best. I would rather qualify for the BLAST Spring Finals or the IEM Katowice playoffs the hard way than get an easy road.

“It has allowed us to recognize some of the issues that we had, inside and outside the game. Maybe it was a little bit stressful, but it gave us plenty of LAN games early in the year, when players are still rusty after the break. I didn’t expect it to be any easier, and I love how the team is dealing with all the challenges.”

G2 and FaZe last faced each other at the BLAST Premier World Final, where karrigan’s side ran out 2-1 winners in a hard-fought series. In Abu Dhabi, where TaZ was still on the sidelines, looking on and taking notes, he said that he was “looking forward” to the events where he and NEO could find themselves on opposite sides once again.

The upcoming bout brings an extra layer of excitement and energy to IEM Katowice, at a time when Polish Counter-Strike is showing signs of a revival. Rebels acquitted themselves better than many expected despite their lack of experience. And ENCE, coached by Jakub "⁠kuben⁠" Gurczyński, another member of the iconic Golden Five squad, became the first Polish team to reach Spodek since 2016.

Virtus.pro’s achievement in 2014 inspired a new generation of Polish players, some of whom are now starting to step into the limelight. After ENCE qualified for the playoffs, Paweł "⁠dycha⁠" Dycha couldn’t help but burst into tears. "[It means] basically everything," he said in an interview with HLTV. "I was playing my whole life to qualify for this event." When they step onto the stage tomorrow to meet Falcons in the quarter-finals, ENCE will certainly be given a raucous reception from the crowd.

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"There's no denying that, due to ENCE's results, NEO and TaZ’s duel has gone slightly into the background," Pożyczek said. "This may come as a surprise, but Polish CS in Katowice has never had as many storylines as this year."

Speaking to HLTV during media day on Wednesday, NiKo said that the history between the two coaches will add "extra spice" to the match-up. He added that he is curious to see which of the two teams the crowd will favor, though he noted: "Wiktor is usually very good with the crowd game."

As he prepares for his first arena match as a coach, TaZ is brimming with excitement. “I can’t wait to see the crowd and hear the roar of the Polish fans,” he said. The stage is set for an exciting elimination match, and it would have been impossible to wish for a more proper venue to rekindle such an iconic and old rivalry.

“I'm just super happy that we will have a chance to ‘go up against’ each other once again,” TaZ said. "It is crazy that we started our rivarly in 1.6 and joined forces across many CS versions. And now, after 19 years, at the beginning of the CS2 era, we are back at it, not as players but as coaches.

“Still, it is not only about me and Filip when it comes to the old guard in Spodek. kuben is also there. When I think about it, we had a special group of guys back in 1.6. Good times. Let the best team win, and I hope that the arena will go nuts when we play tomorrow.”

Sweden Robert 'RobbaN' Dahlström
Robert 'RobbaN' Dahlström
Age:
39
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
3
KPR:
0.47
DPR:
0.55
Poland Paweł 'dycha' Dycha
Paweł 'dycha' Dycha
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1033
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
United Kingdom Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Age:
40
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
-
Maps played:
0
KPR:
-
DPR:
-
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1843
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.66
Russia Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
481
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.60
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Age:
37
Team:
Poland Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Age:
36
Team:
Germany Jan 'Swani' Müller
Jan 'Swani' Müller
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
-
Maps played:
0
KPR:
-
DPR:
-
Slovakia David 'frozen' Čerňanský
David 'frozen' Čerňanský
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
1429
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.64
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1387
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
33
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
2270
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
1016
KPR:
0.57
DPR:
0.68
#1
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Cape Verde Jeppeboy
epic
2024-02-08 20:15
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2 replies
+1
2024-02-08 20:17
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but neo didnt get a car man... he's gotta take the train everywhere!
2024-02-09 17:17
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#2
Faceit level 10  | 
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Denmark Jonasnhj
The Story of Friends
2024-02-08 20:15
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Which one would be eliminated first , washed n0k0 or b0tky.
2024-02-08 20:15
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4 replies
where is vitality btw?
2024-02-08 20:17
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3 replies
Niko 0 major , norbert 1 major.
2024-02-08 20:17
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2 replies
Taco 2 major, zywoo 1 major
2024-02-08 20:19
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1 reply
#57
donk | 
Scotland Omni5
Damn what an exchange
2024-02-09 05:03
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#4
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South America Neshie
Polish teammates and Kuben in the mix Man imagine if snax was in on this
2024-02-08 20:16
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7 replies
there was no scenario where taz, neo, kuben, and snax all make the arena past day 1 unfortunately
2024-02-08 20:55
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#52
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
TenZ | 
Canada LongBaguette
-glaive +snax?
2024-02-09 03:41
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5 replies
#55
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India pquest10
gla1ve is the primary reason they reached playoffs :))
2024-02-09 04:23
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#56
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland the_Sh4d0w
snax isn't a solid igl and never been. He's a born lurker
2024-02-09 05:01
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3 replies
if snax keeps working and putting in the effort, he can be a solid IGL one day. there is a reason why most famed CS players usually put snax as one of the, if not the top most intelligent player ever.
2024-02-09 08:13
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2 replies
fact
2024-02-09 17:22
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#72
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland the_Sh4d0w
He's very inteligent, but more timing,feeling-wise, not tactic-wise. I doubt he will improve that much, he's 31 this year, ain't getting any younger.
2024-02-09 21:25
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being teammates doesn't make them friend. Clearly their "friendship" wasn't strong enough if a small car was enough to ruin their relationship.
2024-02-08 20:17
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14 replies
#10
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Estonia omanik
what happened? I’m kind of a newfag
2024-02-08 20:18
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10 replies
VP is owned by rich oil guy Back when VP was polish powerhouse oil guy promised a car to TaZ when he wins some tournament (Major even maybe idk anymore) but the others didnt know about it, after the win whole team vibe changed and they became sort of cold to eachother
2024-02-08 20:22
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1 reply
were owned*
2024-02-08 20:47
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#17
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Europe yommamas
the car thing was between Pasha and Taz anyway, the commenter above you must be new as well
2024-02-08 20:30
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7 replies
And the mercedes incident is obviously drastic oversimplification. It wasn't just all perfect in the team until taz got the car
2024-02-08 20:36
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dude its simple not true the fuck u talking about? u can find their teamspeak and watch how they were ALL aggressive towards taz so be gone with ur "he must be new as well" ffs
2024-02-08 20:49
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1 reply
#59
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Europe yommamas
israel fan moment
2024-02-09 08:11
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#30
Faceit level 10  | 
frozen | 
Slovakia RetardedCat
they might have been a good friends at some point but when they fell appart a TS voice comm was published and they reallly went agains each other like a dogs, not like a friends, they might have become friends after some time but their fall out was not nice calling others newfags but they know more then you, chad
2024-02-08 20:59
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3 replies
#60
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Europe yommamas
The car thing was still only between those too the TS came later Just because you feel the need to one up someone, doesn't mean you get to move the goalposts
2024-02-09 08:12
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2 replies
holy shit and ur source is - ? u are the only one with this schizo story yet u did nothing to proove it all u do is keep repeating same thing over and over might aswell say something like "actually taz sold his mercedes and shared money but only with byali because his wife had a child from taz and when everyone found out about it team crumbled" and about being new: i was watching that sk - vp epicenter final, what about u?
2024-02-09 08:47
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#66
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Europe yommamas
erm, you have to prove that water is wet!!!!!! sensational yes, you totally did, that's why you are asking muh source on the biggest scandal of it's day
2024-02-09 15:00
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Car didn't ruin Meo and Taz relationship, after all they started an esport project together (Honoris).
2024-02-08 22:30
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You haven't researched the topic quite well have you. They've been co running the Honoris org of polish cs players, and they played on the same team well past the mercedes thing.
2024-02-08 22:55
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#53
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United States SwantanamoJ
They were teammates for nearly 20yrs and started an org together not even 5yrs ago so I think that’s a little harsh lmao.
2024-02-09 03:42
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#9
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kl1m | 
Germany ProjectPat
Wait how have I not realized this earlier, nice article! Gonna be such a heartwarming moment to see them shake hands on stage and especially in Kato... kuben also there, makes me shed a tear ngl
2024-02-08 20:18
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6 replies
Don't forget to buy tissues then
2024-02-08 20:39
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maybe they'll start throwing punches
2024-02-08 21:07
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This is a perfect story of three friends, each embracing their unique personality trait: NEO - the body (insane mechanical skills and most talented polish player ever) kuben - the mind (igl, coach of old vp, has most knowledge of the game and most perceptive) TaZ - the spirit (he literally embraces the spirit of sportsmanship in CS, one of best sports competitors in esports ever, biggest heart and best leader) And their arch enemy, zonic, is the fourth guy in the ring (remember it was him who led Astralis in Atlanta 2017 and it was beginning of Polish cs downfall) I haven't been so thrilled for a day of counter strike for so many years.
2024-02-08 23:03
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3 replies
And gla1ve going from crushing poland's hope to giving them a new one
2024-02-09 01:51
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2 replies
Exactly, I think I speak for many polish fans when I say we were supper bitter towards gla1ve and Astralis for so long, but now it comes full circle. The fact that he helps us get into Spodek 7 years after crushing VP's hopes for their last major, it just feels right and a great cathartic experience. (also it's the ultimate Danish IGL battle tomorrow, 4 Denmark IGLs leading 4 teams)
2024-02-09 01:58
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1 reply
Good spot, 4 of the best danish igls battling out, damn that alone is already so hyped. Can't wait to watch the crowd and the stage ))
2024-02-09 05:35
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Epic clash. Will be an interesting matchup
2024-02-08 20:18
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#19
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland ScR1337
1st Its so nice to be polish and see polish coaches and team in play offs and 2nd being old guy who is following scene since 2003 or 04 and now can see neo, taz and kuben together in spodek once again... The dream would be a show match with them
2024-02-08 20:37
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2 replies
who you rooting for? Neo or taz?
2024-02-08 21:04
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1 reply
#39
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland ScR1337
I dont like too much both teams and I like them both so doesnt matter
2024-02-08 22:39
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#20
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Yugoslavia yike$
Legends
2024-02-08 20:37
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#22
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United States vox_3
Goats
2024-02-08 20:39
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nice article, love them both
2024-02-08 20:40
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#28
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Sweden Vrede
Taz lets go
2024-02-08 20:55
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It makes me so happy to see a polish(and such a likable too!) qualify for the playoff stage at katowice again after 8 years. Also the fact that Taz and Neo are rivals again but this time as coaches and its happening for the first time in cs2 and in katowice the stage that put them and the polish scene on the first page of csgo back then. Its all too amazing to fully digest for me, i wish i could be there live to cheer for all of them.
2024-02-08 20:55
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3 replies
who you rooting for? Neo or taz?
2024-02-08 21:04
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2 replies
I like them both more or less the same. But i like faze way more than g2 so im gonna go with Neo because of that. You?
2024-02-08 21:10
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1 reply
i aint watching
2024-02-08 21:14
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I was there Gandalf, 3000 years... 10 years ago, when VP won. And after 10 years we have this guys again For Polish scene, win in Katowice is more than major. Yes, major is more money etc, but Katowice is symbol, mecca for polish CS. As Dycha said, in Poland guys play whole life to win Katowice.
2024-02-08 21:49
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#37
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland snakemtt
Forever a NEO fan.
2024-02-08 22:01
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#42
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States SwantanamoJ
Man I feel old seeing all the comments of “10 years ago!!” …. My Dinosaur ass was watching them (and Kuben) closer to 20yrs ago (Pentagram G-Shock followed by 10 other team orgs/names).
2024-02-08 23:11
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#67
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Poland bochen421
Yeah, I still remember Neo's clutch agaisnt NiP 1hp 2 headshots in 1.6...
2024-02-09 16:20
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neo ages like fine wine, he is even more handsome
2024-02-08 23:23
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#45
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine dench1k
Both teams are not good at all. I can higlight ropz, m0nesy and probably that's all. All other players are barely average tbh
2024-02-09 01:00
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#47
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China RADNIKEY
NEO aging backwards somehow
2024-02-09 01:55
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LEGENDS!!!!.
2024-02-09 02:20
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So cool to see. I wish some other scenes pros became mentors instead of chasing the streaming bag 😭
2024-02-09 02:45
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#51
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Canada ssau
Taz is 37 now, crazy. This is making me also feel old having watched him play cs since 1.6.
2024-02-09 02:55
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Defeat FaZe? It's should be an easy Taz
2024-02-09 03:53
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Hard to understand why neo used to rock the bald look, he looks good with hair
2024-02-09 10:41
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Many people don't understand how insane was their win in 2014. They both were over 26yo+ already, in fact it was a great ending of their careers as players. I never understood how could anyone expect as much in the following years. 1 major, but there were many cs tournaments equally important prior to that year
2024-02-09 10:51
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#65
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Europe Zwenix
Legends
2024-02-09 11:52
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It was great to see Pasha bring out the trophy... Somone please send me a link if they ever get a picture the three of them together Virtus.Plow <3
2024-02-09 18:02
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#71
Faceit level 9  | 
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Poland Srsllyy
Legends<3
2024-02-09 18:47
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