karrigan: "This is the first time in my career where I'm really drained"

The Danish veteran spoke on the exhaustion felt by the team after seven consecutive LAN finals.

karrigan is proud of the consistency his team has been showcasing despite their recent losses

With their hard-fought win over Astralis in the semifinal of IEM Chengdu, FaZe have secured their seventh-consecutive LAN final, with the international squad set to face off against MOUZ for the shot to hoist a trophy for the first time since CS Asia Championships.

Despite the team's phenomenal consistency so far in CS2, making the finals of every event they have played so far, FaZe have struggled to clear the final hurdle since their initial streak at the beginning of the game's lifespan, notching four consecutive runner-up finishes, including at the recent PGL Major Copenhagen.

Shortly after his team brought it over the line versus Astralis, Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen spoke to HLTV regarding the close series, how he views the matchup against MOUZ, and the toll that the team has endured after racking up a number of deep runs while still coming short of event wins.


karrigan, you just defeated Astralis, getting revenge for the group stage loss. What changed? Was it the stage buff, the fact that you had material to study, or a little bit of both?

I think it was a little bit of both. Obviously, learning how to play Nuke, I think that was the key thing. I also think we played a great T side of Nuke today, found some good situations. Yeah, didn't expect the Ancient, the way they played, A rush, B rush, but I think the key scenario was the 4-on-2 at 4-0 on Ancient; I think if we win that the CT side of Ancient goes differently. Overall, coming into Inferno, it was hard to figure out how to play, but I think we just adapted really good on the fly, and I think that was the key difference today.

Talking a little bit about that Ancient, it seemed that everything was going well for you during the first stages of the game, and then that 1v4 clutch completely flipped the game on its head. Do you think that took the wind out of your sails and gave Astralis the momentum moving forward?

I don't think it took any wind out of our sails, I think we still tried to play the same as we wanted to even when we lose the round, that's what we always do, but I think it gave them extra momentum to kinda keep rushing. I think if we shut it down there I don't think they're gonna keep calling the rushes. I just think they played great in some of the scenarios, and they made it uncomfortable on Ancient once again.

Talking a little bit about Inferno, that was a map that this iteration of Astralis hadn't played, so you had no material to prepare for this. What was the discussion like heading into this final game?

To be honest, I didn't expect Inferno to come through. I think we expected Mirage, the same veto, but I guess our Mirage has been looking good lately, so they wanted to try to throw a curveball. We just came in with a gameplan that we kinda had against Liquid based on what we have done lately and what we did at the Major, and tried to just learn from that game, and I think that's why we had a great T side today to close out the game.

You're now going to face MOUZ in the grand final. You've won the last six matches against them, five of which on LAN. How confident are you heading into the final?

I think it's not so much about the matchup, it's more about how fatigued we are. It's not an excuse or anything, I think this is the first time in my career where I'm really drained when it comes to traveling and playing. I think we're a team that plays almost double the rounds of any teams on LAN, which is insane, right? I think it just depends on us. I think MOUZ have always been great in CS2, even when they had frozen I think we were the ones stopping them from maybe winning a trophy here and there. Definitely gonna be a hard matchup, and they're really hungry to prove a point and beat us, so we need to be very focused and hopefully everyone gets a good night's rest so we can power up again in the final.

I spoke with torzsi earlier today after they won their semifinal, and he said that his team is also feeling a little bit exhausted, so he expects a scrappy game. Do you think that's how things will turn out tomorrow?

I don't think it comes down to scrappy, I think it's energy and mental fortitude. That's the thing I can feel the most; I mentally crashed in the quarter-final, I couldn't get anything going, I didn't have the extra power or energy. I think I had a little bit more energy today, but I'm so focused on the game. I think for us, it's more about keeping the same energy as we did on map one and map three today. It can always be chaotic, and I don't think that's only because of people being exhausted, but more about how the game turns out.

You managed to keep your streak of grand final appearances in CS2. It's now seven LAN tournaments in a row, eight if you consider Thunderpick World Championship, which is a pretty remarkable achievement. You were on the losing side of the last four finals, is this the one where everything changes?

(laughs) I wish! I can't promise. It's just always a scenario, we're meeting MOUZ, we've won many times against them, we never know when it's gonna switch. I think that matchup-wise it's gonna be interesting, and we're gonna do everything we can. I told myself before this tournament started, don't have too high expectations, but here we are, one game away from winning the tournament. I think it will be good for the team to come over the hurdle, but if you don't win, it is a part of the game. We can be proud of the consistency we show, and nobody can take that away from us, so we just need to finish the job and come 100% tomorrow to finish the trophy.

How important would it be to end that streak of second-place finishes and get another trophy toward the Intel Grand Slam?

It would be super important to just win a trophy, it doesn't matter if it's a Grand Slam or another thing. I think just one week after losing a Major final, winning another trophy is just going to make the exhaustion a little less hard, because we are traveling and playing all the finals, and we're losing and we don't get the high of the highs. It's an important game, but right now I don't think we're able to think about the Grand Slam, you need to win Katowice or Cologne to even consider winning a Grand Slam. Right now, let's just try to learn what we can, and pray that everyone's feeling the best they can tomorrow, and hopefully, that will be enough.

Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
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2313
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#2
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Bhutan testingTheories
poor guy
2024-04-13 18:23
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yeah, too many finals in a row getting your hopes up and crushing you eventually…
2024-04-13 18:28
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Brazil isbetter
F GOAT, Faze will pull an Astralis 2018 and disband. You all heard here first!
2024-04-13 18:23
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2018 Astralis won tier 1 events and majors
2024-04-13 20:37
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#77
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Slovakia Psycho2k
What drugs are u on,Astralis 2018 did become best team in the world and even history in 2nd part of season
2024-04-13 21:06
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#100
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Brazil ropz_top1000_cs2
oh man i sure hope they pull an astralis 2018
2024-04-13 22:56
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goated for a reason
2024-04-13 18:23
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Russia _Mike_Hunt_
Goat
2024-04-13 18:24
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Drain gangggg
2024-04-13 18:24
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+1
2024-04-13 18:47
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legendary member drainer
2024-04-13 19:51
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TL;DR go hard
2024-04-13 20:00
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United States Bobby_Peru
+1
2024-04-13 21:01
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#101
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Russia 50sacinmysocidgaf
+1
2024-04-13 23:00
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+1
2024-04-13 20:42
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SBE
2024-04-13 21:20
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+1 "I know I fell off but this the comeback"
2024-04-14 14:31
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Poland xOwcA
Retirement?
2024-04-13 18:24
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Brazil raulguerrak
I no longer know whether to spare one of the most humorous players in the world, or whether I should deny this complaint since a high-level player should be prepared for this.
2024-04-13 18:24
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Literally no high level player except karrigan, rain, ropz and broky have been playing final after final after final for 8 tournaments on the trot for the past god knows how many years, mate. He has more than enough righty to say he's exhausted.
2024-04-13 21:18
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Brazil raulguerrak
You're right to say that, but isn't FaZe's purpose: to always compete? The company went through several changes, buying, selling, both in the institution and in the squad, and yet they always sought more and more, so much so that they were not eliminated from one of the best teams in the world in the Major. It's a value judgment, either you value your health and the health of the team, or you play like Astralis played until you reach saturation.
2024-04-13 21:37
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Astralis also faced similar burnout issues during covid and 3 out of 5 players took breaks since they were playing constant events and going deep. One of the reasons why astralis were looking mortal and were being beaten by other teams during the tail end of 2019 was because of burnout. The Faze org itself is also not very hands on with the cs roster so i think it was a specifically player and cs team management that eventually decides what they want to do. And lets be honest they themselves know that they are on a mad consistent streak that only happened because of the endless amount of hardwork and even then i dont think 8 finals in a row is somethin anyone expects.
2024-04-13 22:04
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Try applying that logic to any other job. *What do you mean you're burnt out after flying 100 flights in a row with no break, isn't your purpose as a pilot to fly planes?* When you're playing twice the number of rounds as your competitors, experiencing the biggest highs and lows in every single tournament in a row, you're going to feel exhausted and drained, no matter what your "purpose" is.
2024-04-14 06:02
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Germany Sol1taire
How did you decide on Vanuatu as the fake flag? Did you click the colors, or how the name of the country is spelled? Intrigued by how hltv people users decide on which fake flag to utilize
2024-04-14 13:05
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Scrolled through the countries and Vanuatu sounded funny.
2024-04-14 13:07
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Germany Sol1taire
if you went there it would be the most epic thing you do in your life. Very few have been there. Most jerkoffs going to london paris rome nyc and shit. much respect if you go to Vanuatu - I will try to go
2024-04-14 14:07
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While I admit that Oceania is stunningly beautiful, there's absolutely no need to throw shade at other countries or people who go there.
2024-04-14 14:11
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CARRYGUN
2024-04-13 18:26
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Carry
2024-04-13 23:44
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Denmark slacking
drain DN
2024-04-13 18:27
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have you tried resting?
2024-04-13 18:28
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+1 why are they even playing the next LAN after the major? Especially since it is halfway across the world? Especially since they clearly need some time off to rest and recharge?
2024-04-13 20:00
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#62
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Ukraine ReanuKeeves
Coz contracts with sponsors and management demands so.
2024-04-13 20:08
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If im not wrong, every team has the ability to sit out on one tournament? no?
2024-04-14 06:09
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goat
2024-04-13 18:28
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idk if it is cheating but you would think pros would use mental stimulants, especially in a situation such as this
2024-04-13 18:30
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Canada hilsen
They get drug tested. ESIC has a list of prohibited drugs. Idk if you were around but 2014/15 there was a big Adderall scandal. That is what introduced drug testing
2024-04-13 18:38
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there doesn't seem to be that many drugs on that list. There are probably still a lot allowed that would help with mental focus and energy as well as fatigue.
2024-04-14 13:11
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Uruguay RamzeYC9
no more since adderall era in first cs years
2024-04-13 20:42
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Germany Sol1taire
Monster Energy, Redbull and that sugary shit they drink is quite a drug mental stimulant.
2024-04-14 13:06
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i think some use snus as well
2024-04-14 13:13
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Germany Sol1taire
They should! - i would too! they are competing for hundreds of thousands of dollars at such a high level in front of 15k fans. we get nervous and tired after 2 matches playing against faceit lvl10 douchebags
2024-04-14 14:08
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agreed, and the above substances are just the ones used publicly, i would imagine there is much more behind the scenes, as the consumption of all manners of pills in public isn't good for the image of the sport or the players
2024-04-14 14:27
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And FaZe is in Group A of EPL, their grand final streak might get compromised
2024-04-13 18:34
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this is true for all streaks - eventually they end. wwwwwow
2024-04-13 19:13
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Russia Donkimuz
Like i said in my thread. Its time.
2024-04-13 18:37
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karrigan gtbsg
2024-04-13 18:38
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That's a typical burnout, I wonder what he can do though. For me it's easy, I do the minimum amount of work required for a while to get back my motivation back, noone notices or cares, but as a CS pro if he takes a break he might just never make it back in, look what happened to S1mple.
2024-04-13 18:43
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#46
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Vietnam DrParadox
He's older than any typical CS pro. That and the fact that his physique isn't in top form. It's both a mental and physical burnout for him at this age.
2024-04-13 19:18
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D9D9D9
2024-04-13 18:46
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Not a good look to make excuses beforehand, they played just one BO3 more than MOUZ did at the major
2024-04-13 18:49
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What a stupidly dishonest take. mouz played 627 rounds on LAN in 2024. faze played 1267 rounds on LAN in 2024.
2024-04-13 18:58
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Sweden lefflan
How is it an excuse to just state a fact? Before the major they played the final in Katowice and got completely destroyed by spirit.
2024-04-13 19:03
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I'm just saying that saying before the final starts that "yeah omg we are so tired", I get it that they have played a shit ton of cs. But yeah, If they lose, they can say that and it's completely understandable that they lost
2024-04-13 19:08
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#38
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Sweden lefflan
Did you even read the entire interview or just comment based on headline?
2024-04-13 19:09
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Meds
2024-04-14 11:13
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Not an excuse really. They've been going to finals 8 tournaments in a row now, playing more maps than any other team. Add in all the stress/pressure they constantly have to be under + practice days and constant travelling from one continent to another mixed with jetlag and there you have it. If that doesn't get you drained, nothing will.
2024-04-13 19:08
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I get it, I travel to Denmark and Finland very often and even that is tireseome
2024-04-13 19:14
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its a nice pre packaged excuse though, if they lose its because hes drained if they win its "omg best IGL ever, cs mastermind GOATED"
2024-04-14 01:49
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Yes . What would you know about even going to events though, your teams get out at group stage ?
2024-04-14 05:11
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At least i dont fake flag Next
2024-04-14 05:31
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People here telling him to retire won't survive one year of traveling and practicing in the scale of FaZe. karrigan been here since 1.6 pro scene, he survived longer than guys like GeT_RiGhT in the pro scene and he deserves a medal of honor for this. Keep going fella, you're an inspiration ! well done, don't give up
2024-04-13 18:49
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+1
2024-04-13 19:17
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Aleksib | 
Ukraine ReanuKeeves
+1
2024-04-13 20:10
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#68
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Slovakia zipak
+1
2024-04-13 20:44
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Karrigan is on goat level
2024-04-13 21:28
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Sweden eKr
Not sure about the longevity comparison between GeT_RiGhT and Karrigan. GeT_RiGhT rose to tier 1 in 2007, Karrigan became tier 1 arguably in 2012.
2024-04-13 22:26
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karrigan was already one hell of a awp talent before 2012 so maybe 2009 or 2010 i would say so. you should really try to watch some of his highlights from back in the day
2024-04-14 06:14
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Sweden eKr
Yeah, I know, I played him. And I played with GeT_RiGhT up until he joined Begrip-Gaming in 2007.
2024-04-14 07:21
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hippopotamus ;p
2024-04-14 10:23
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+1
2024-04-14 09:54
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you gotta hope rest of the roster can step up otherwise karrigan gonna be depressed and drained if loses b2b finals "/
2024-04-13 18:52
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Hungary H0bbesCS
kudos for the honesty
2024-04-13 18:58
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Russia czern0bog
my bo is draining
2024-04-13 19:03
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Egypt BomberMan_
Crazy in this era to be this burnt out but they are making every final. Funny thing is after this event they are group A in pro league then they get like 3 weeks off until pro league finals.
2024-04-13 19:07
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Everyone is gonna pracc for them on A. This could even be disaster where it's like 1 point away from not qualifying.
2024-04-13 21:39
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might be a blessing in disguise considering EPL isnt a real prestige or like S-tier event so it might be a good 1 month break for them and back into the grind for Dallas, Spring Final, EWC (ESWC rebranded after saudi like purchase), then Cologne in August.
2024-04-14 01:06
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well if faze win iem china right here, then winning pro league would make them double grand slam winners.
2024-04-14 06:16
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dont you need to win a Kato/Cologne/Major for the grand slam
2024-04-14 06:25
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maybe im not quite sure
2024-04-14 06:29
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when astralis won the igs they didnt win any of those 3 tournaments
2024-04-14 06:34
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that is the old ruleset. it was changed when TL won the IGS in like 3 months
2024-04-14 06:56
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2024-04-14 06:57
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GOATTTT
2024-04-13 19:07
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why are there so many drainers on the hltv forum
2024-04-13 19:11
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Gucci on my belt, greenfield, playing Counter-Strike CS has been pretty drained tbh
2024-04-14 14:34
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Germany Youju
F, if they loose another grand final...
2024-04-13 19:12
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Maybe would be wise to consider taking a longer break in between tournaments any time soon now. Like maybe even a month or two. Probably won't be possible now with Pro League starting in less than two weeks but after that. FaZe management should take the decision to let these players take some rest and recover for the upcoming season. Maybe then they would also be able to convert the finals to trophies whenever they get there.
2024-04-13 19:19
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Poland GM20
For other players, sure, but for Karrigan if he will lose his schedule it can go to a serious drop in form and retirement.
2024-04-13 21:35
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Gigachad
2024-04-13 19:17
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Sweden Hasklon
based drainer
2024-04-13 19:20
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#49
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Denmark ram1n
People here shitting on this post, when they have 0 fking clue how much dedication it takes and how much pressure they have on themselfs in T1 scene as of whole. Imagine how much travel, practice etc. you have to have time for and focus on. Having your mind on something for a very long time sure as hell can be draining at some point. Atleast these people made something out of themselfs, while their are geeks here trash talking while being behind their pc's all day 24/7, disgusting
2024-04-13 19:22
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+1 The posters here never played tier3 CS but they think they know what a pro from tier1 who has been in 8 finals (practically had no rest for 3 months) should feel like. Deranged (RL is right).
2024-04-13 19:47
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Iceland Voidsphere
+1 Let the bozos hate, it's all they have to enlighten their sad lives.
2024-04-13 20:51
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India rock564
navi declined the invitation because they wanted a break
2024-04-13 19:27
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i would be too if i would lose like 4 finals in the row or something
2024-04-13 19:29
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Finland Misttaa
I can see him retiring soon.. but God bless this legend of the game. Hope he comes back stronger from this slump.
2024-04-13 19:33
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Legend but its time to retire, Bro has been averaging under 1 rating for like last 6 months
2024-04-13 19:48
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What about alexeib with 0.78 in the whole major up until the final or hooxi with 0.85 rating the last year or 2 or maybe suihy the young igl prodegy that already in his young age has a rating nearly worse than karrigan at 32
2024-04-14 06:19
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
Retire? :((((
2024-04-13 19:49
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ctrl+f think
2024-04-13 19:57
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d9 on top
2024-04-13 20:43
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Has there even been a CS2 tournament where they have not reached finals?
2024-04-13 20:52
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nope, the first one will be this upcoming tier 1.5 brazil tournament with 200k prize pool where they aint playing
2024-04-14 06:20
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Absolute legend
2024-04-13 21:01
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France Nanynoodle
Just dont play most of teams dont
2024-04-13 21:05
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welcome to the rest of your life, its sad being past your prime, but its your reality now
2024-04-13 21:22
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Cry about that
2024-04-13 21:22
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Sweden Vrede
hm
2024-04-13 21:22
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Kind of wild considering how packed the schedule was 2018-2021.
2024-04-13 21:26
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gym would help him
2024-04-13 21:32
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washed niko >>> he is not getting exhausted cuz too smart and doesn’t go further than semifinals
2024-04-13 21:41
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Giga brain
2024-04-13 23:05
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Bro 💀
2024-04-14 05:13
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Faze insanely consistent, I dont know how anyone is questioning whether or not they’re the best team rn
2024-04-13 21:47
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cs2 seems more exhausting to play than GO did, anyone else agree?
2024-04-13 21:56
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Italy alastt27
bro playing a video game and is drained, this is honestly ridiculous
2024-04-13 21:57
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Idk how u can comment this, you think they just play the game for 2 hours mm and that’s it? They play on a completely different level, travel allot so jet lag. They also practice every day, watch demo’s allot. Pro level and for sure tier 1 has allot of stuff that comes looking into it, it’s just as draining as normal top sports
2024-04-13 22:30
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Portugal MUTIRIS_VAC_SHOT
baffling to me that people think it's not tiring... T3 or below grind their asses off to make it, often playing ridiculous hours. T1 work to stay where they're at or to win trophies, that means being the best team in the world... I work 43 h/week during winter months, pros are above that easily. Pracc, extra playing time according to contract, theory stuff, team talks, demo reviews, media stuff, travelling like you said... Ofc it's draining
2024-04-13 22:36
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#102
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Russia 50sacinmysocidgaf
low effort bait
2024-04-13 23:02
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Its the travelling also. If you have done this for work for longer periods of time, you know this
2024-04-14 11:15
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From what I heard what's extremely draining is the fans and their lack of boundaries, spying and stalking and being pushy with the pros
2024-04-13 22:31
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Told you guys there are going to be too many events coming up in 2025
2024-04-13 23:05
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hard drugs will alleviate your stress
2024-04-14 00:03
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I think that last matches he didn't perform the best and his teammates carried him a little
2024-04-14 00:10
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Time to break the 2nd place streak and keep theirs against Mouz
2024-04-14 00:38
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I think its a bit of both, an excuse and also the truth. The issue is, they're going deep into every tournament and in this case, finals. is that 8 finals in a row now for faze? thats very tiring. Easy to reset if you get grouped from a tourney to next BUT, going to final and recently they're not even winning the finals, it adds up the exhaustion.
2024-04-14 01:24
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United States TheGr8One
retirement soon?
2024-04-14 01:32
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so after they lose the grand finals, its because karrigan is drained. pre packaged excuses are great
2024-04-14 01:45
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this aged poorly XD i swear, hltv people have no understanding of how the pro scene works..
2024-04-14 15:03
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#115
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Canada minibeech
crashed mentally in quarter. Liquid must have really had him worried. I'd say that was the closest, most exciting match in the entire playoffs.
2024-04-14 02:12
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blud should go no fap
2024-04-14 02:13
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stay strong captain we will make it
2024-04-14 07:24
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Why not skipping an event or two?
2024-04-14 09:00
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He is just baiting Quick 2:0 faze Less than 10 rounds für mouz
2024-04-14 09:50
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#150
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Sweden multib
Another classic Karrigan mind trick, goat igl stuff
2024-04-14 11:48
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GOAT IGL maybe
2024-04-14 12:38
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Eat more healthy and start working out Finn, that will help you boost your energy (Y)
2024-04-14 14:01
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Allu ez top3 awp ever
2024-04-14 15:04
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Stay strong!
2024-04-16 06:13
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