Media: Wildcard in talks with Case over snow

21-4-2024 20:57

The North American organization has expressed an interest in signing the 17-year-old Brazilian.

Wildcard are reportedly after snow

Wildcard have opened exploratory discussions with Case about signing João "⁠snow⁠" Vinicius, Dust2 Brasil has reported. A formal offer has not yet been made, but the 17-year-old is believed to have already held talks with the North American team, which is coached by fellow Brazilian João "⁠horvy⁠" Horvath.

snow burst onto the scene in 2020 at the age of 13 when he was signed by BOOM as a backup option ahead of Gamers Club Masters V. He went on to play for Young Gods and Los Grandes Academy before joining Case in March 2023.

BOOM recruit 13-year-old talent Snowzin for GC Masters V

The Brazilian teen has established himself as a key player for Case, especially since the release of Counter-Strike 2. He is averaging a team-high 1.19 rating and 1.27 impact in 2024.

Wildcard are still in the market for a new fifth player after parting ways with Gage "⁠Infinite⁠" Green last month. Since then, Qihao "⁠C4LLM3SU3⁠" Su has been playing with the team in online competitions on a trial basis.

Earlier this month, Wildcard attended IEM Chengdu as a late replacement for Complexity. With horvy and Ian "⁠motm⁠" Hardy acting as stand-ins, the team went out in 13th-16th place after losing to Virtus.pro and Cloud9.

YOOOOO, that would be awesome.

2024-04-21 20:58

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some t3 na team is the only one interested? i thought he would go to someone relevant like furia

2024-04-21 21:17

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I didn't think he would jump to FURIA, but I definitely thought PaiN and Imperial would be interested at least.

2024-04-21 21:18

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+1 the kid is actually nuts. future of brazil cs

2024-04-21 21:25

paiN should now that they have 1 spot left, but makes no sense for Imperial to go after him. If he were willing to move to NA, I’d prefer him on Legacy.

2024-04-21 21:34

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Yea imagine picking up Washed2k instead of the brazialin M0nesy

2024-04-21 21:36

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Exactly

2024-04-21 21:46

Yea Legacy management is… interesting. Do they just not have any funds to purchase players?

2024-04-21 21:37

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Bro I have no idea tbh

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I appreciate them giving Stew a shot lol, but surely that wasn’t the best option XD

2024-04-21 21:49

Stewie did better than I thought he would, but he just ain’t it

2024-04-21 21:52

2024-04-22 20:08

FURIA don’t even use their Academy (kye was lucky with GET Rio) let anole invest in other young guns

2024-04-21 21:35

they signed honda and drop results: 0.8 rating gods

2024-04-21 23:12

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drop got them their only Major semi-final. Was MVP against NAVI. And singlehandedly won that Spirit Bo1. Now he is averaging 1.10+ for MIBR, arguably the best team in Brazil. Was probably the best player for MIBR during GET Rio. Destroyed paiN to put them in ESWC and destroyed OG on Inferno to put MIBR in GET Rio Top 3. You are just a hater. FURIA wasn’t a good team for him, yet he delivered when needed. Even arT, who didn’t want him at first, said that he was very good a FURIA in the end.

2024-04-22 00:08

"Now he is averaging 1.10+ for MIBR" Look the teams he is playing against, only brazilian teams there is a huge difference between playing against Bounty Hunters and playing against tier1/2 european scene

2024-04-22 00:15

K bro

2024-04-22 00:16

+1 Drop even said it feels good to play for a team he also has a voice, someone listening to what he has to say. I bet in Furia he coudnt say anything about plays and shit. Probably he heard "just shut up and play"

2024-04-22 11:00

Mje

2024-04-22 20:35

these are NOT the roster rumors you need to be reporting on right now

2024-04-21 20:59

Snow is a big time prospect, and they don't get to choose what rumors get released lmao

2024-04-21 21:00

they need proper verification in order to report rumors lmao

2024-04-21 21:01

gayben gave the go ahead

2024-04-22 01:19

It was Dust2br who reported, so…

yes yes yes

wait what???

HE NEEDS A BETTER TEAM PLEASE

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yeah, furia!

2024-04-21 21:02

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dont kill career pls

2024-04-21 21:05

could be, i want him in a brazilian roster, he is the last hope

2024-04-21 21:06

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nope i hope we steal him :D

2024-04-21 21:07

pls dont i beg !!

2024-04-21 21:40

bra*il cs is over NA reign is near

2024-04-21 21:59

Yeah, steal NA money for some years, come back to Brazil and then win a major ez

2024-04-21 22:02

He can still represent BR on an NA team my friend. Maybe if he does well he will join Liquid and they will be half NA and half SA.

2024-04-21 21:10

you are right, i just hope he continues his superstar path

Where is honda? He kinda disappeared

2024-04-21 22:00

he was a streamer after he left Furia, now he is playing in tier 2 br scene, but i think he is having fun, playing SA fpl and stuff like that, but he is not completely forgotten in brazilian cs, he is friends with everyone in brazilian cs scene and streamers

2024-04-21 22:05

snowzin or snow?

interchangeable but officially snow.

2024-04-21 21:03

Aren't they the same person? He just changed his name I thought

yeah

2024-04-21 21:14

WWW

bro is 17y and already wanting to train english because BR CS joevers

it's better for him to know english you can join any team, not only br like 90% of the brazilians

ye, my point

2024-04-21 21:09

I like where their heads are at. Sometimes scouting unknown talents like this pays off. I remember when seangares found amanek and devoduvek who were just players in Mountain Dew league. It seemed so random at the time for them to pick up 2 french fries but it actually made misfits a pretty good team

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He isn’t unknown lol

2024-04-21 21:38

I follow pro cs pretty religiously and this is the first time I heard his name. I’m sure he’s known to some, but probably not well known. I probably just never heard of him because case is barely on the radar

2024-04-21 21:58

Yeah, maybe. He played some WePlay Academy too for Young Gods

2024-04-21 22:55

Hes is known in br scene, gaules and his friends always says he plays well, specialy for his age, but his team never qualifies for international tournaments or wins sa championships or get invites for closed qualifiers. When they apear in greater br streams it is because they are playing agains Mibr/Imperial/Pain.

2024-04-22 00:04

does "pretty religiously" only mean watching Tier 1 events? Case Esports has been playing in pretty much all of the notable tier 2 events in South America for like 2 years now. Even then Snow played in Weplay Academy League with Young Gods at the age of 15 which is when I first heard of him.

2024-04-22 04:29

Iorek solek amanek devoduvek nak superteam

2024-04-21 22:24

Ez for ek boyz

2024-04-21 22:51

goaat snow

Trump cant build a wall for this! Let's hope we get the NA revival thanks to brazil

snowzin is very good, hope everything goes well. the only bad thing about this is that wildcard is a tier 2 team in NA, but it will be a great chance to him to get experience speaking english and to learn something with stanislaw

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Tier 2 NA > Tier 3/4 BR lol. Malbs has seen a ton of success since making that leap too.

2024-04-21 21:04

yeah we saw how last major RMR went...

Case made the Major? I aren’t think that

yeah because they were playing SA open qualifiers that are 10x harder than NAs, and it's not even an exaggeration, besides Liquid, Col and M80 every other team would have little to no chance of qualifying in SA, that's just the reality

2024-04-21 21:41

0/8 lmfao

2024-04-21 21:42

Well, you can close your eyes and pretend NA is the best in the world but those are facts, just look at the last RMR results hltv.org/events/7261/pgl-cs2-major-copen.. Or the fact that Legacy, a team that just lost their IGL, replaced by a retired player/streamer while changing their communication language, still managed to beat Elevate, one of those tier 2 NA teams, that got there by defeating wildcard and nouns. I'm sorry but difference between NA's and SA's tier 2/3 is just that big

2024-04-21 21:50

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I’m not the one claiming their region is not only much better, but TEN TIMES BETTER. If you look up the word delusional in the dictionary, it’s a picture of #78 lol. Also Elevate is tier 3.

2024-04-21 21:51

Bro, NA is doomed. SA is America's last hope.

2024-04-21 22:11

Nekiz is their igl coldzera hasn’t been igl for a while. Instead of saying ur scene is better learn it first

2024-04-22 00:32

doesn`t change the fact that they lost their second best player and replaced him with a streamer

2024-04-22 02:11

elevate is onliners and matchfixers btw

2024-04-24 00:53

hahahahah

it'd expand his resume at least.

NA tier 2 is easier than SA to get spots for big events, there are only M80, Legacy and Liquid (but Liquid is nerfed on online) as good teams, and too it's a upgrade compared to Case

2024-04-21 21:08

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Nouns and Wildcard as well. Then like... BOSS, PA and NRG.

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Yes, but the point remains, not to say that NA spots are free spots, but NA today is easier than SA to get spots

2024-04-21 21:11

Ehhh, I don't know. I think they are pretty similar. FURIA = CoL MIBR = Liquid PaiN = M80 Imperial = Nouns 9z = Legacy Red Canids = Wildcard Fluxo = NRG Etc.

5 spots 4 to BR teams hltv.org/events/7261/pgl-cs2-major-copen..

M80 was playing with a coach Liquid had just formed Legacy is now NA

2024-04-21 21:16

With the pieces that Liquid had they should have qualified with one hand on their back, M80 even with a coach had the chance but choked in a matchpoint against legacy, Legacy was playing in SA at the time, I'm not saying that the gap is huge but SA today is a little better in general level

None of what you just said changes anything I said in #41 If Legacy taking a spot at the RMR was a positive for SA, now that they are NA, it's a positive for us. And whether or not M80 "had a chance" doesn't change the fact that they 1 map from taking as spot as well despite playing with a coach who hadn't played CS officials in years.

2024-04-21 21:20

dephh for me played well, there is no "we were playing with a coach" excuse

2024-04-21 21:22

You are just being wild with that take lmfao. Playing with Dephh and without their IGL was a MASSIVE detriment. I don’t know what to say to someone who thinks otherwise. You are just being silly.

2024-04-21 21:24

CS is so crazy that maybe M80 could have played worse with Mankz, who knows? And for me slaxz missing easy shots with AWP compromised their qualification more than dephh.

2024-04-21 21:26

If I were a pro player today, I'd prefer to play on NA than SA in terms of the difficulty of getting spots, Imperial, pain and Imperial are evolving very quickly.

2024-04-21 21:23

I get what you are saying and, about major, brazilians were distrustful about brazilian teams capabilities agains the NA. We were afraid of having just Furia qualified or not even them. But the future showed br teams could get 4 spots. Almost no one thought legacy could get a spot, but even they could, carried by coldzera that is not in the team anymore. My point is, the NA teams have to prove themselves against other regions to have a real perspective of how well they are playing. Br teams (except for Furia) just proved themselves against some european teams, winning every match against them. NA teams got do some similar, or play another tornment/qualifier with br teams, just then we can compare the two regions properly.

2024-04-22 00:21

I know americans always like to say they're better, but SA is at a better moment today, it's just a fact, I'd have the same opinion if I were american, finnish, australian etc.

2024-04-21 21:15

Me in #36 "I think they are pretty similar." You in #40 "I know americans always like to say they're better" ????

my first sentence is not for this situation

2024-04-21 21:19

"always"

2024-04-21 21:21

imperial clear nouns, nouns really havent looked that good outside of against liquid online and any team can look good against liquid online. id also pretty comfortably rate pain over M80 but maybe that changes once M80 play some big events with the new roster

Delusional af. Brazilian teams clear those teams every day of the week. MIBR was some time ago just wiping the floor with those teams. Winning everything they could.

2024-04-21 22:13

This is the most dellusional thing i've seen in HLTV for a long time, not gonna lie. Like, imperial, pain, mibr and furia a simply not losing to M80 (your third best team), + red canids, legacy, 9z and maybe fluxo are as good as M80. PAIN IMPERIAL FURIA MIBR === COMPLEXITY > LIQUID > Legacy > m80 === 9z and red > fluxo > oddik sharks and bestia === nouns wildcard, party astronauts, boss, nrg...

2024-04-22 12:03

My saying NA and SA are "pretty similar" is the most delusional thing you've seen on HLTV in a long time? Is this your first time on HLTV cuz that's a pretty tame take.

2024-04-22 16:19

Wildcard is better than Case, imo.

2024-04-21 21:12

Ah yes, let's waste this kids career

He's already doing so in BR Tier 3. No one's giving him a chance.

2024-04-21 21:13

kid is 17 I dont think he is gonna be on wildcard for a decade lol

I don’t think it would be that bad. He could end up at Legacy or Liquid.

He's very talented. Would be great move imo. His mindset is so good for his age as well.

Been seeing him consistently perform on case. Hopefully it works, and maybe we see more br talent going intentional. Watching kcerato waste his career is tragic.

Best thing possible for them rn. SA scene is growing in size but not getting any better.

Brazilian mod? What?

2024-04-21 22:14

Hello

2024-04-21 22:16

Another coach pushin a brazilian into a team that will not play good and the team will insta flop Liquid 2.0 But hey atleast they dont have yekindar on the team

Better than Case tbf

hahaha bro wtf is this news

It is big news if you are Brazilian

2024-04-21 21:43

Mauisnake called it

if Snow move to wildcard it would be a crazy mistake for him it's gonna be a waste of potential he could and should do better goning to some random US tier 2 carp team is not going to help he's career he should go somewere else of even stay on case and wait for a better opportunity to grow and reach another level

he's practically playing 1v9 at Case, no way Wildcard is a downgrade

2024-04-21 21:27

He's wasting his time in Case, that team's never going to improve. He's going to be stuck in tier 3 BR for the next 2-3 years at this rate.

2024-04-21 21:28

30kg boy on scene

If he can speak English then we might be back

2024-04-21 21:32

He likely understands it at least. Speaking it tho is an entirely different story. And he can just have horvy help out if it has to come to it.

2024-04-21 21:33

snow deserves more

2024-04-21 21:44

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then get some BR org to give him a chance, no one's doing it.

2024-04-21 22:10

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-nyezin +snow is my wish

nyezin needs time.

2024-04-22 00:12

damn they heard me dust2.com.br/noticias/47725/pain-vence-c..

2024-04-24 17:05

I must be a prophet, paiN heard me say no BR org is giving snow a chance and voìla

2024-04-24 17:27

i actually said -nyezin +snow so im more prophet sorry bro

2024-04-24 19:20

no no, Im the one that said a BR org should give him a chance as no one's been doing it and it came true first)

2024-04-24 19:23

Should've given more time to nyezin. Imagine winning a LAN at home and getting kicked lol

2024-04-24 19:26

nyezin mid player bro, this "needs time" thing rarely works

2024-04-24 19:37

n1ssim was given hella time and look how he ended up lux too btw

both were good before pain imo, that's why Pain hired them, nyezin came because they have no choice, just a stand in

2024-04-24 19:42

nyezin was good before getting promoted (and then demoted), your point?

2024-04-24 19:43

i disagree, compare nye stats before pain main team and n1ssim, lux before pain

2024-04-24 19:46

If he is going to NA, I’d like to see him on Legacy or Liquid (both in need of a 5th imo). He isn’t a gamble, kid is 100% going to perform. snowzin is that kind of wonderkid like Endrick or Neymar that is hyped from extremely young age and never let the expectations down.

2024-04-21 21:45

let him, he doesn't want to skip steps and he's right

2024-04-21 22:07

I don’t think Legacy is skipping steps

2024-04-21 23:01

Legacy? Hell no

2024-04-21 22:15

Why

2024-04-21 23:02

Isnt pain like perfect for both him and the organization? I mean pain is well known for building talents, and they dont have international spots RN, which would probably enable snowzin to finish school (if he wants to). Plus pain needs a good consistent rifler, and, at least for case, snowzin is this guy. He'll probably be better than nyezin at the very least, and will bring midia to the team. Not to mention he would 100% get sticker money.

2024-04-22 11:43

I said “if he’s going to NA”. And while, yeah, maybe paiN is the better team out of these and would be good for him to play in a team as good as paiN, I don’t think it would be the right choice exactly because paiN won’t be playing many internationals. He can finish school elsewhere. Wildcard is a contender for North American spots. He’ll be getting used to play in English (which expands his career possibilities a lot). He’ll get international experience from the get go. There won’t be much pressure on him. I think it’s really good for both.

2024-04-22 16:56

snowzin pls stop playing til 5 in the morning and get some proper sleep

2024-04-21 21:48

Yes, lil snow needs to get put of case. The good BR teams doesn't need a new player, Legacy is a shitshow, a NA team seems good for him to get some experience and learn English so in the future he can go to a good T2 EU team.

Why wastin career in t5 NA? At least BR orgs pay well

2024-04-21 22:19

Who in talks with whom over whomst?

2024-04-21 22:20

BR prospect, at least they have them unlike Sweden)

2024-04-21 23:52

huge if true

2024-04-21 22:28

I like this idea. Nowadays you need to get used to international teams as early as possible. If he play well in the tier10 NA he can go to another org and eventually go to some European tier S. This is the ideal path for a brazilian young talent on my opinion. If he stays in brazil, like kscerato/yuurih I think he will regret in the future.

2024-04-21 22:30

crazy if true

2024-04-21 23:15

What a random move

2024-04-22 01:48

Good for him to improve his English communication and get experience with Stanislaw

2024-04-22 02:00

Good move if it happens. Stan is a good experience IGL to learn from. Pairing him and JBa together could be fun to watch

2024-04-22 02:17

tired of playing with urban0 and ricioli

2024-04-22 03:47

pls fluxo sign art, snow and try

2024-04-22 04:27

omg sooo exciting (who is that?)

2024-04-22 13:14

If they do get them who are they replacing? Cant really see them replacing Sue as they are actually doing decent and are young so they could develop more so would this be instead of Sonic? Tho if Sue is getting dropped they will for sure find a good team.

2024-04-22 18:54