fnatic and Reason in CSP clash

17-3-2010 18:07

Reason Gaming taking on fnatic? Yes, you read it correctly; the two teams will be facing off against each other, in CSPromod.

There has not been many tests of CSPromod to the wider audience yet, but we will soon witness one, as Reason Gaming from CS:S and fnatic from CS 1.6 will us one of the first battles in this custom version of Counter-Strike.

On Sunday the 21st of March the two teams will play a best-of-three maps show match, to give the community a feel of how this game will be played, compared to CS:S and CS 1.6. It will also be a fun battle between the best teams of the respective games (CS:S and CS 1.6).

The match is organized by Cadred and will be streamed on QuadV, commentated by Stuart "TosspoT" Saw, who will guide us through the battle. So tune in next Sunday and watch the battle between fnatic and Reason – Who do you think will be crowned winners?

2easy4 fnatic

2010-03-17 18:08

Finally CSP will rise. PS: Fnatic ofc shooting to the ground will not help to kill fnatic

2010-03-17 18:11

Is CSP still a beta version?

2010-03-17 18:10

16 replies

yep

2010-03-17 18:11

Yep, 1.04

2010-03-17 18:11

yes But if your are try to tell that because is beta suck, dont go by there cause Quake live is still beta and is an awesome game very used in tournaments.

2010-03-17 18:15

6 replies

Yeah Quake Live is awesome. But it's a pretty ridiculous comparrison, especially since it a whole other game, and it aint a mod (That i know of) Counter-Strike we're also awesome in the betae's back in the days. But as so many others than myself see CSPromod in the beta stages: It blows. But alot of people really have faith in it, and you can't really judge it before it comes out, but relying so much on the betaes and making showoff matches and tournaments is way to early, i mean... they still have the Source models for crying out loud!

2010-03-17 18:57

5 replies

The only thing that i want to say is that is "dont judge a game if is a beta" nothing else.

2010-03-17 19:13

4 replies

Well if you read my entire post throughout you would've understood, that's one of my points. I werent either saying anything positive or negative about CSP Generally, but i told my oppinion about the BETA, which has too many holes and leaks to be playable. Indeed people find it playable and interesting, but the game itself is not fit competitively at all just yet.

2010-03-17 19:59

3 replies

That is an unfair comparison. Quake Live is based off of Quake 3: Arena so therefore Quake Live had a preexisting/finished game to work off of. CSP is started from scratch aside from the Source models.

2010-03-17 21:06

2 replies

If you READ he posts ABOVE you'll find out that it's not me who compare Quake Live with CSPRomod. kthxbye

2010-03-17 21:33

Base of but is not exactly. Different coding, weapon stats etc etc. Starcraft 2 is also in beta and that's VERY good. Sorry, but I tried CSPromod again last night and still found it shitty :P

2010-03-18 08:26

its beta since 2007 :D

2010-03-17 18:50

6 replies

Try to recreate a game with the same gameplay with a small team and without the original game code. Its a little bit hard :S , unfortunately.

2010-03-17 19:19

5 replies

then make your own cs :D

2010-03-17 19:32

4 replies

I was only introducing you the facts that most of all you guys dont know them and start judging because is beta since 2007 :)

2010-03-17 19:47

2 replies

you should start working as an spam bot :D

2010-03-17 19:39

1 reply

I'm the good FODDER :)

2010-03-17 19:40

one third off all posts xD , cause i believe in it :)

2010-03-17 19:39

hahah funny battle ^^

2010-03-17 18:11

2izi4fnatic ... f0rest! :D

2010-03-17 18:11

where i can see this showmatch? :D

2010-03-17 18:14

8 replies

lmgtfy.com/?q=QuadV

2010-03-17 18:17

7 replies

ok, im a pussy :D

2010-03-17 18:48

3 replies

2010-03-17 18:50

2 replies

thanks for this :D

2010-03-17 18:53

1 reply

2010-03-17 19:14

used lmgtfy in the wrong context boyo

2010-03-17 19:17

1 reply

"The match is organized by Cadred and will be streamed on QuadV "where i can see this showmatch?" Do you think so? If had they read the whole article they wouldn't ask :)

2010-03-17 19:24

AHAHA awesome XD I did it 4 or 5 times at least :$

2010-03-17 23:21

hope the stream is fast, i dont have source, :(. is there a CSP non-steam out there? P.S. piracy kills :P

2010-03-17 18:19

Reasong Gaming will win 2:0, because they are from CS:S and CSPromod based on CS:S's maps and RG knew all the position's stuff and pluses. This is only my opinion:D sorry if I'am wrong.

2010-03-17 18:19

3 replies

yeah, you're wrong. Maps & recoil are both made a lot more similar to 1.6 :D I guess fnatic has a big advantage

2010-03-17 18:25

I agree with you. CSP is just a "1.6 wanna be" but is still source. Unless fnatic practice before this, Reason has a big advantage.

2010-03-17 18:26

“We are looking forward to play mighty fnatic in game which probably favours them little bit by having 1.6 recoil and maps, but I hope we can give them a fight and keep the game exciting.” Marek ‘.PhP’, Reason Gaming Captain and IGL.

2010-03-18 00:28

fnatic will win this i think

2010-03-17 18:37

hmm hard to say, cos it's mix of both games :/ but mayby hoping fnatic to win this :)

2010-03-17 18:39

CSP awp is so easy, dsn will pwn them, no doubt.

2010-03-17 18:41

3 replies

"CSP awp is so easy" Really? (irony)

2010-03-17 19:15

guess youve never seen the awper of Reason play

2010-03-17 19:55

1 reply

I do not follow CSS, so no i dont know

2010-03-17 21:33

That's a good idea, though I haven't got CSS steam.. TF2 works for it? I mean, I've heard that you need HL2 game to run CSP, so if that's true, does TF2 would help me out?

2010-03-17 18:47

1 reply

Only CSS

2010-03-17 19:15

easy win for fnatic

2010-03-17 18:47

easy for Reasong Gaming its still the source engine ;-) but who knows RG is not on the top of source :D

2010-03-17 18:51

tbh fnatic should have this. Reason gaming's biggest strength is their awper Guardian, and the CSP awp is much more 1.6 than source, this is going to deminish his impact on the match. even with Guardian playing I dont think Reason are even the best source team out there, with the greatest respect to them. also the map positioning is more 1.6 orientated, so whilst both teams are going to have to get some new positions i think it will be an easier adaption for fnatic

2010-03-17 18:55

6 replies

What are you talking about? The maps are exactly the same as 1.6, even the boxes are the same. The only differences are outside of playable areas.

2010-03-18 13:00

3 replies

so you agree with my point that fnatic have a much easier job...

2010-03-18 13:13

2 replies

Yes. I was just pointing that out.

2010-03-18 18:50

this is going to be fun to watch either way (though I'd rather see them play the best source team whoever that may be)

2010-03-20 04:52

dsn > Guardian ? or Guardian > dsn ? sorry, I don't know Guardian's skill :B

2010-03-18 18:09

1 reply

well its so hard to compare across games so I really dont know. all I can say is that at LANs last year Guardian was consistently out aiming most other awpers from other teams. if you asked me 6 months ago i would have said Guardian>dsn, but especially since gux left, Ive been really impressed with dsn. He seems really on his game right now. ive never seen guardian awp on 1.6, but apparantly he did play it for several years, but evidently he never made a huge impact on the scene. although that probably has more to do with the czec/slovac css scene than his individual skill

2010-03-18 19:02

will it have HLTV or something like this ?

2010-03-17 19:00

1 reply

The match is organized by Cadred and will be streamed on QuadV[...]

2010-03-17 20:27

interesting idea, looking forward for this!

2010-03-17 19:04

i hate csp its crap, 1.05 better be 2035x better

2010-03-17 19:17

12 replies

Your PC cant run it?

2010-03-17 19:19

11 replies

no, it can run it perfectly

2010-03-17 19:24

10 replies

Understand one thing 1.6 will die sooner or later, CSP has been made keep that essence that we all like cause if no one cares source will rise or another CS by valve.

2010-03-17 19:26

9 replies

ok sure whatever, i still dont like it...

2010-03-17 19:27

8 replies

i too

2010-03-17 19:33

5 replies

I think csp is a cheap remake of CS:S and nearly nothing of 1.6, but that might just be me... and the 1.05 is coming so i dont know 4 sure

2010-03-17 19:36

4 replies

i think it feels alot like 1.6? :S the recoil and all the maps are exactly the same, just better graphics (y) :)

2010-03-17 19:43

3 replies

not to me, the step sounds are just ridicilous, models(guns in particular) feel WAY WAY WAY too big = the maps feel small. But thats just 4 me. And why complicate the scoreboard? oh bout recoil, it will never feel like CS 1.6 with these models

2010-03-17 19:46

2 replies

acctually i think the new scoreboard and that stuff is pretty nice. but as you say, it will never be as good as 1.6, nothing will. but its a good try atleast ;P

2010-03-17 20:17

Step sounds (as well as every other sound) are going to be changed by custom ones closer to 1.6. The maps aren't small, it's the source players models that are taller and there are gonna be new ones in 1.05 the same size as 1.6. There will be a new scoreboard as well.

2010-03-18 18:57

My bad, i read incorrectly your comment.I tough that you were saying that 1.6 was better, soz. Yes 1.05 will introduce some new changes,redesigned scoreboard, new models , new icons, we have to wait to see ;)

2010-03-17 19:35

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i rly hope so. I have passion for 1.6 but i dont know if i ll have it for CSP :[

2010-03-17 19:36

CSP sucks (yes I have played it!!!) but it might be interesting to watch!!

2010-03-17 19:46

lol i tryed it when it first came out and it sucked.. was it how long ago..`?

2010-03-17 19:59

1 reply

yea, 1.04 is quite good compared tho the first version :) first beta was not cs, more like tertis or super mario.

2010-03-17 20:21

GL Reason :)

2010-03-17 20:20

CSP sucks, and fnatic will win the match easily.

2010-03-17 20:27

Mmm 20.00 CET, I might give it a try....

2010-03-17 20:28

I think for the first time ever, Polish people are going to want fnatic to win.

2010-03-17 20:29

btw where is fodder? hes not gonna like this

2010-03-17 20:29

2 replies

LOL Maybe he's secretly watching the match

2010-03-18 10:26

i think fodder is dead... havent seen him around here alot lately

2010-03-18 22:57

go FNATIC 1.6 rulezzz

2010-03-17 20:33

REASON have adventage because CSP is more near to CS:S will be nice seeing both teams playing CSP

2010-03-17 20:39

ya. The engine is the same of CSS

2010-03-17 21:10

Great! (Hope that fnatic will win this)

2010-03-17 21:42

fnatic

2010-03-17 22:41

actually the game play of csp is very close to 1.6 we had a comp here when 1.04 came out and it was really good, still some bugs with the game but imo it'll take over the cs scene when its done

2010-03-17 23:00

maybe they will release 1.05 in the next couple of days or not?!

2010-03-17 23:20

:O! Reason 'the best team of CSS' interesting.. glglglglgl 1.6 ftw

2010-03-17 23:23

1.6 players if fnatic win: source pros are bad and 1,6 pros dominate them at their own game source players if fnatic win: why did any of you expect reason to win, its a remake of 1.6 on the source engine 1.6 players if fnatic lose: game is too source-like, how could fnatic have a chance when they dont even play source source players if fnatic lose: 1.6 pros are bad and source pros dominate them at their own game

2010-03-18 05:03

2 replies

Haha :) I believe that's quite close to the real comments we'll be seeing :D I think that match will be really interesting to watch, hope fnatic wins :)

2010-03-18 09:49

word!

2010-03-18 10:35

no 1 cares..... im sure fnatic doesnt even wanna play csp. its all a stupied trick to promote csp. NO 1 CARES 0 specators.

2010-03-18 07:19

4 replies

0 spectator? sorry to disappoint you man, im gonna watch this match.. so at least its 1 spectator :D

2010-03-18 10:31

1 reply

+ me at least 2 :D

2010-03-18 12:50

we'll see about that

2010-03-18 10:35

dont spread hatred towards csp because you dont have enough money to buy css and a computer that can run css :((

2010-03-18 13:29

AWESOME!!

2010-03-18 07:49

fnatic win :-)

2010-03-18 08:09

This should be really interesting! :) I was really hoping they wouldnt play it on the beta version with the CSS models.

2010-03-18 09:37

fnatic...

2010-03-18 10:34

fnatic will win easily! Even in a CS:S Showmatch, where both teams would play css fnatic would win against the best css team by far... its just a noob-game. I played cs1.6 for years and on one LAN i've won the final IN CS:S vs a CS:S team by not even touching the game once before the tournament... so thats how i think about it!

2010-03-18 11:57

I think it'll be very close, because the guns from CSP 1.04 shoot like the ones from 1.6, but the models aren't fixed yet and maybe the players from Reason Gaming are more familiar with them.

2010-03-18 12:01

i cant find out, are the match gonna be streaming? or only via radio? or will there be SourceTV?

2010-03-18 12:02

1 reply

read the full post thrs a word called "streaming"

2010-03-18 14:09

let's not play CSP, as long as we will be loyal to the old 1.6 version, it won't die and their efforts to make it disappear will remain useless.

2010-03-18 12:29

3 replies

Why so hateful? That's kinda pathetic... They're doing something for the community, their goal is to keep the 1.6 gameplay alive for years, not kill 1.6 (which is going to die sooner or later as there are no new players coming in and big sponsors aren't interested in 1.6 anymore).

2010-03-18 18:48

2 replies

where did you see any hate ? just saying 1.6 can't and shouldn't be replaced, and that's the players who will keep it alive, not CSP. don't know when you started playing but I discovered CS with 1.3 so I can't imagine playing this game with such huge graphic changes.

2010-03-18 19:10

1 reply

Well if you can't play a game because of newer graphics then I don't know what to tell you, perhaps you'll change your mind once you're used to them. Anyway, "that's the players who will keep it alive" that's my point, no new players are coming in and old players are quitting and thus the game is slowly dying out. Furthermore, having newer graphics will attract big sponsors such as Nvidia or Intel (1.6 doesn't because you don't need their latest hardware to run it properly) and help esports grow.

2010-03-18 19:30

nixon you might wanna add line-ups? most source players will know fnatics but quite some 1.6 players will not know reason gaming would've preferred to see m go up against the old fnatic.css :P

2010-03-18 13:09