Community reacts: Dust2 replaces Overpass in map pool

27-4-2024 01:07

The return of Counter-Strike's most iconic map has been received with mixed emotions.

Last night, Valve rolled out a major update for Counter-Strike 2 that brought many quality-of-life improvements (including the return of the much-requested cl_righthand 0 command) and changes to the Active Duty Group map pool.

Almost 18 months after exiting the map pool to make way for Anubis, Dust2 will be played in official tournaments again. It is a glorious (yet unexpected) comeback for one of the most popular maps in FPS history, featured in 16 of the 20 Majors that have been held to date.

The history of CS:GO's competitive map pool

Dust2's return has been greeted with mixed reactions from the community. It remains a fairly spawn-based map with only a limited number of strategies, yet it is taking the place of one of the most tactically rich maps in the pool in Overpass.

This has led to many players and casters describing this as the worst map pool in Counter-Strike history. Some of the biggest critics of the current map rotation are Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski (who had the third-highest Overpass rating on LAN in CS2) and talent duo Hugo "⁠Hugo⁠" Byron and Sudhen "⁠Bleh⁠" Wahengbam.

Analyst Alex "⁠Mauisnake⁠" Ellenberg was also very critical of the current map pool and said that he expects Dust2 to be a T-sided map because of how expensive it is to run a double AWP setup on the CT side and the fact that Ts can smoke off long cross with a single smoke in CS2.

Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač, Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev and Boris "⁠magixx⁠" Vorobiev have all applauded Overpass' removal, but many community figures stated that they would have preferred to see another map gone. Even within the G2 camp, there are contrasting views about the changes, with in-game leader Rasmus "⁠HooXi⁠" Nielsen lamenting that Valve removed "the best map."

Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire seems to be rubbing his hands together with glee at the thought of having Dust2 back in his plans. "Pick Dust2," he wrote on X. Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut also looks excited as he thanked Valve for the change, sharing a video in which he goes over the 1vs4 clutch he pulled off against FaZe at IEM Cologne 2021.

Okay!

2024-04-27 01:08

3 replies

very good decision

2024-04-27 05:55

wtf- overpass is the best map in the pool right now... wow what a decision The masses want dust2 i guess...

2024-04-27 12:15

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Nah overpass is among the worst for me atleast but replacing it with dust2 is like trash vs garbage

2024-04-27 14:01

dont car, dust 2 goated

22 replies

Worst overall cs map of all time.

2024-04-27 01:28

18 replies

learn to aim

2024-04-27 01:56

17 replies

Learn to Play more than one map. Far harder than aiming.

2024-04-27 03:37

9 replies

aim is the most transferable skill

2024-04-27 03:35

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That is why the most successful players are the smart ones. They are good with them but they are also have other skills that allowed them to excel on and do that on harder maps.

2024-04-27 03:38

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i only solo queue if that puts it into perspective.I also play a lot of pc shooters outside of cs

2024-04-27 03:41

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Explains literally everything, honestly surprised you don't suck off mirage

2024-04-27 03:45

honesty is the best policy, I suck off Mirage, Nuke and Vertigo due to being able to know angles better and outaim people. On a serious note, I don't know why there isn't a soloq map pool and a team based map pool, because some of these maps are absolute arse for soloq and dust2 i can understand is terrible for teamplay so its vice versa. But from a playing perspective as a soloqueuer, or at best playing with very terrible irls, mirage d2, nuke and vertigo are very advantageous for those who depend on chaos. On the flipside Anubis can be one of my better maps even soloqueueing but I'll never win the game. It's tactical flexibility though I can see is exponential, same goes for ancient. But it'll never apply to me so I'll forever hate playing them. (PS for a solo queuer the angles on ancient and anubis suck. Why are they not on a standard y and x axis, why do they have to be inconsistent. Makes aiming horrible especially when peeking B ramp on ancient or dark to water on anubis.

2024-04-27 03:52

Not sure about that, donk doesnt seem to be any cleaver but he hits the heads, you dont need to be smart to play cs, its to the smart ones to outplay them like faze did on the major

2024-04-27 06:10

Dust 2 is the best map to use AWP on considering the angles that can be held. no other map comes close to be as nice for awpers. I soloqueued to Global on Dust 2 and then started playing other maps since D2 was the hardest map to soloqueue on considering it was cheater and russians who do not speak english infested. -Mirage or -Inferno was the better play, but +dust 2 is a huge win. Train and cobble would only be played for 8 maps by those who want it back to then become not used again.

2024-04-27 11:10

the last sentence here really is the truth, no one would play train or cobble, both were usually last pick and it’s just nostalgia from watching old games making people think they were enjoyable imo. Train for one was one of the worst maps I’ve ever tried to entry on.

2024-04-27 12:17

Yes, but still an argument could be made for +Cache in that case. Still played fairly a lot and probably most played non-active map now after overpass which got removed. But trying to entry on train is absolute horror. Cobble is not much better though. Those maps are way too unbalanced for competitive play.

2024-04-27 16:33

Dust 2 isn't about aim, it's about awp abusing.

2024-04-27 09:14

Considering i played at a high level in 1.6 I'm pretty sure my aim is fine.

2024-04-27 10:20

I was joking my friend I hope you didn’t see it as a malicious comment, in all honesty it is a very linear map with little strategy but as someone who soloqs or with 2 friends at most, it makes more sense for me being in the pool as opposed to say an ancient or Anubis.

2024-04-27 12:20

I just hate how naked it is on ct. There aren't any positions I like playing. Fighting for long is the only enjoyable aspect of the map for me.

2024-04-27 13:15

I’m a heavily aggressive player but very 1 dimensional, most my plays on ct revolve around mid aggression. Ie mollying top mid, challenging suicide (as risky as that is), or flashing through the molly and swinging to stop the t long push.

2024-04-27 14:03

dedicate some time to learning nades. I see too many dust2 doucebags with decent aim and flicks that cannot throw a fucking nade or flash correctly

2024-04-27 12:16

I usually entry so I’ve never really learnt lineups on new d2, only map I really know the lineups for is mirage and inf

2024-04-27 12:21

there are a lot of car on dust 2

2024-04-27 03:11

Yes

2024-04-27 06:21

im holding car on spawn, you guys all clear tunnel pls

2024-04-27 10:04

pimps tweet is twice in there MIRAA

2024-04-27 01:12

fixed 👍

lol

2024-04-27 01:13

Pimp aint worth reading twice...

2024-04-27 01:14

ii skipped his as the only one, since he is not a community figurehead in the slightest.

2024-04-27 10:05

SDY lost his mind.

Same tbh

2024-04-28 01:31

Initially removing dust2 when it was becoming stale and gimmicky, and later introduce it where it can be fresh was a good move, although I'm still not a huge fan of how they designed middle in the remake. But removing overpass is just silly. Where do they get the idea..? Is it because it's the one map that hasn't been wrecked by Valve recently? Surely that must have been the thought process, because there's at least two other maps that just about any professional player would have removed instead.

It's like valve thinks "what's the worst thing we could do to the map pool" and decide to do that. Seeing vertigo in every match is fucking agonizing in itself. Now they remove probably the only map in the pool that NOBODY complained about. Everyone was fir with overpass. A well balanced map that look good and was fun to play. Fuck valve.

At this point valve just does random things. This isnt data or something based. I dont even dislike dust 2. I just dont understand the thought process. Elige is probably right. -tactical map +brainless.

2024-04-27 10:08

The fuck are these analysts :D Failed as players and thinking they know something about the game :D?

2024-04-27 01:15

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You don’t need to be good at aiming to understand how the game works

2024-04-27 02:48

2024-04-27 04:46

Yeah, exactly. The aiming in cs is easy part, understanding the game seems to be hard. thats what I meant, and now they think they are analysts but cant play due lack of understanding :D? Wtf...

2024-04-27 09:13

The more you analyse the worse you get and most of these analysts hardly even play the game. They just watch and understand a lot more than regular people. I’m not sure what your point is tbh. I’ve followed this game for 20+ years and could tell you a lot about different aspects but these days I can’t get over 16k in matchmaking because I play 10 hours a year.

2024-04-27 13:16

My point: the analysts does not understand the game. Its just obvious when they are like "why player x did this play" when they see the whole map. Every1 can judge plays when they have all the info. Ppl with capability to understand game can point out exactly in most cases why the player in question did the play the analysts are wondering.

2024-04-27 13:49

And I'm sure you are a much better player then

2024-04-28 00:15

You are correct

2024-04-28 00:21

Dust 2 is the ultimate aim based map of the franchise. With so many talented players, it will be fun to watch it and play more often.

You mean Zywoo shared his 1V4 clutch from Dust 2 in match they got eliminated by Faze 2-0 anyway lmao? Didn't know pros hold good memories from event they bomb out in groups.

2024-04-27 01:17

lmao what a fun fact

2024-04-28 05:54

dust 2 as it is is ass

2024-04-27 01:16

big are are able to play t1 events again bro

2024-04-27 02:04

not even that probably

2024-04-27 13:52

The trend is clear. Shit "analysts" hate Dust 2, while the best players in cs history love dust 2. Long live the goated map!

2024-04-27 03:04

very well spoken mate!

2024-04-27 06:02

+111111111

2024-04-27 10:25

They hate or love the maps based on how it affects their chances of winning, don't expect greater thought put into a tweet by NiKo or s1mple.

2024-04-27 14:08

big L imo … Overpass was not the map to remove and Dust2 was not the map to add period

2024-04-27 01:18

100%

2024-04-27 01:29

100% agree

2024-04-27 02:06

2024-04-27 05:50

Your opinion -> \_/ do you want to permanently erase *Yes*

2024-04-27 06:03

Reply needs to have actual content xD

2024-04-27 12:55

Amen

2024-04-27 07:00

Agree!! Don't mind Dust 2 but would've loved to see Cache in proplay

2024-04-27 09:16

Totally fine with dust2 - best map, but vertigo could've been removed and I'd remove mirage for reworks or something ... wtv

2024-04-27 01:22

-mirage + train (maybe cache) next thx :P

2024-04-27 01:23

Even worse than -ovp +d2

2024-04-27 05:58

Totally W move

2024-04-27 07:01

If that happens i will youtu.be/VLnWf1sQkjY?si=KbB-1vuoQKu2UjIN

2024-04-27 11:35

Overpass was definitely not it. Inferno definitely had to go before it. Even more criminal was that dust2 was added in the map pool before train or cache. Pure laziness from valve.

the update to Inferno is pretty good

2024-04-27 05:47

I think you're in minority with this

2024-04-27 07:19

Imagine having Vert, Inferno, AND DUST IN THE SAME MAP POOL. dogshit map (dust) who the fuck is running this shit?

2024-04-27 01:30

they add dust2 so they can remove mirage later on to add cache or train, aim only noobs need atleast one map in pool (mirage or dd2)

2024-04-27 01:36

Having vertigo, dust2, mirage and inferno in the map pool is fucking hell. 4 Pug maps. -Overpass was such a dumb decision to do, it was an actual tactics map unlike those 4. The major is going to be so boring to watch.

2024-04-27 01:37

Dust2 with doors to tr base blocked is not d2

2024-04-27 01:41

- vertigo + cache Niko God Back

2024-04-27 01:54

should have been +Train -Vertigo

2024-04-27 01:55

Only valid option. Where is fcking train?

Silvers don't like it because they don't know smokes and keep getting killed by awpers on the ct side. D2 is easier p90 brrrr.

2024-04-27 03:43

Why replace overpass that is awesome to play and watch instead of ancient or anubis that look and play like quake maps?? And why Dust II? No one asked for it, many better options, including Cache and Train that they already paid for lol

2024-04-27 01:57

Small closed off corridors = Quake map Wow

2024-04-27 14:12

Why overpass? Should have been -vertigo -inferno +dust2/cache/santorini +train

2024-04-27 02:02

Maps that should have been reworked before overpass: 1. Mirage 2. Inferno 3. Dust2, in current state it should not have even added to map pool

2024-04-27 02:16

rarely seen a dev team that is so oblivious to what the game itself and the community actually needs, imagine the hype if they brought an updated cobble back or something. instead they bring the most overused, overplayed and boring map in counter strike history back. the only explanation for this is that they couldn't give less of a shit about the comp scene and just desperately try to bring back casual players with Dust2.

2024-04-27 02:20

removing any map before mirage is a crime. i'm so sick and tired of playing it for a decade.

2024-04-27 02:30

they shoudlve removed mirage, now we have dust2 and essentially dust3(mirage). whats next? Remove nuke for original dust?

2024-04-27 02:31

Definitely they'll remove nuke next because that makes the least sense. Probably for cache (dust 2.5)

everyone agrees that vertigo sucks yet valve doesn't care at all

2024-04-27 02:35

ong vertigo sucks, shouldve gone instead

2024-04-27 02:39

Now we have 2 sand maps again, meh

2024-04-27 02:40

need snow, bring back Austria

2024-04-27 05:25

they should have added canals

2024-04-27 02:55

I don't really see mixed reaction here, pretty much everyone saying that the change of these two specific maps was a wrong decision.

2024-04-27 03:02

bUt zYWhOOOooO and P1mPlE sAid…

2024-04-27 09:48

EliGE - twitter.com/EliGE/status/178364214031854.. I know what you mean, getting single kill and having 0.06 rating on Dust2 was heartbreaking. Don't stress, dude, shit may happen sometimes :D hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/136085..

2024-04-27 03:05

dust2 is okay but there were definitely so many better options, we don't need another rush long rush b map; bring back train or tuscan or idk overpass was definitely not the map to remove it's honestly pretty interesting

2024-04-27 03:17

this could be the best map pool ever if they just -vertigo and -inferno now

2024-04-27 03:23

This is decent, but ideally (over time) also remove mirage and vertigo, then add train and cache Now that would be a banger map pool.

All I know is that BIG will pick up some rank after their best map is coming back.

2024-04-27 03:42

Cant wait for bo3 with D2 and inferno. CT's will gamble stack every round and save if they gamble wrong also matches will last 3 hours atleast. Imagine VP vs Vitality. Fun.

2024-04-27 03:47

Hugo is 100% right here

2024-04-27 04:01

Remember when Spirit dominated every dust2 for 6-8 months with degster, sdy and mir? Now it's sh1ro, donk and zont1x. Get ready :D

2024-04-27 04:03

Put my name there as well I also reacted

2024-04-27 04:07

Dust 2 is the best map after CS_Office

2024-04-27 04:15

Meds

2024-04-27 18:17

i know dust2 more than my own house

2024-04-27 04:19

People saying -mirage that won’t happen. Mirage run at 300 fps on android 7. Maps for casuals players

2024-04-27 04:28

The only map i have solid 180-200 FPS on 5v5. other than that my FPS takes a nosedive rn.

2024-04-27 09:17

better than delusional cobblestone spammer legndary 2v2 hvh csgo map

2024-04-27 04:29

Mediocrity of the plebe in 1 threads. Put away a singular map such Overpass is a crime.

2024-04-27 04:56

Dust 2 rocks…

2024-04-27 05:08

Now bring back dust as well and then we have all dust maps at once in the map pool, dust to dust4 :D

Mirage is the most iconic map, not Dust II

They made this update just to save G2

2024-04-27 05:57

Instead of -vertigo or -anubis valve chose removing Overpass. Audience wise and probably pro players wise the worst map vertigo and anubis but valve torturing Btw don't want back cache, train, cobblestone Italy maybe cobbtaly or cachain (you know what I mean)

2024-04-27 06:09

Vertigo needs to be taken out. Followed by Inferno. Long live D2, Nuke, Ancient, Annubis, and Mirage!!!

2024-04-27 06:16

No! not the overpass...anyone but overpass... I loved it, one more reason not to play premier or CS all together.. GG

2024-04-27 06:27

S1mple Zywoo, Niko and donk love d2 and not preferring ovp to it. Nuff said

2024-04-27 06:34

Yeah let’s mention simple lmao

2024-04-27 09:46

Critical Hugo :DDDDD

2024-04-27 06:48

-mirage -inferno +cache +cobble Thank you

2024-04-27 07:02

Valve wants fast-paced-t-sided maps, probably. Overpass was the only CT heavy map now (and the only where the CTs spawn inside a bombsite).

2024-04-27 07:29

Next: -vertigo +train

2024-04-27 08:04

welcome back the most important map for CS, dust 2. dust 2 and mirage are the best maps !! if they will remove again 1 of these i will stop playing/wathcing cs

2024-04-27 08:34

Yeah, they removed a map with a really unique style and replaced it with the most garbage map I’ve ever played on. Seriously, I’d rather play fucking hostage maps like Agency or whatever it’s called than Trash2. With the game still full of cheaters and the worst map pool ever now, I might consider joining the boycott. They’re literally making the game worse with every update.

2024-04-27 08:44

2024-04-27 09:44

with this change happy only autist kids who all day can suck only trash mirage (worst map ever in all FPS games) and now this shit dust2 back now kids happy for me it`s kill game after 18K hours i just stop run it and watch before they not remove this trash kids maps entirely from pool

2024-04-27 08:49

Why the f they need to REMOVE maps neither just ADD maps for, you know, FUN, flexability. Add train, cache, cobble, few new maps?

2024-04-27 08:55

neither love -overpass, nor +dust2. If dd2 was at least reworked... I don't believe anyone can disagree that this is the most low effort map pool change ever. On a different note, I'm sad they "decluttered" inferno. All the objects, made the map look charming to me.

2024-04-27 10:12

Zywoo tweet has no real value, a post made by his pr team

2024-04-27 10:40

+ cobble, cache, train - vertigo, dust2, mirage Bringing back pug map D2 fucking sucks.

2024-04-27 10:45

remove this shitty ahh vertigo a lot of people asked for? nah remove map you worked the most on remake

2024-04-27 11:00

Next up -Ancient +Cache And we have a great map pool. All you "tacticans" who refuse to do any of the dirty work, shouldn't be talking about how great of a map ovp was, legitimately the only enjoyable way to this map is to bait, I rather stick a toothpick in my toenail and kick a cement wall, before I entry on this map (somehow get man advantage) and then have my team throw, because of poor map design. I respect Elige, but Overpass ain't it. There are better team based maps like nuke, or vertigo.

2024-04-27 11:16

Overpass map flaw list: A site = CT Spawn ? CT Rotation fast, quiet. T Rotation slow, loud. Where is mid? Enterances to b site narrower than a needle. More vertical variation than nuke/vertigo on B site overpass. To much cover for ct's, none for T's.

2024-04-27 11:26

close mid doors and delete all to the left on T spawn, make and a faster entrance from mid to dark to rush b, make the b entrance bit bigger, and make and entrance from ct mid to dark , thats how u can make dust2 more tactical

2024-04-27 11:22

worst map pool ever in cs history atm

2024-04-27 11:27

I don’t think most people have a problem with dust2 back. It’s more they removed the wrong one, vertigo has to be the least popular map amongst casuals and pros.

2024-04-27 11:41

why people hate vertigo so much bruh

I think it’s because it’s too much close range and lots of clutter and objects to hide behind. Players with good aim will prefer the longer range fights of dust2.

2024-04-27 13:12

zywoo cringe video lol but yes finally dust2

2024-04-27 12:23

Mirage/Dust2/Anubis in the same map pool gives me the same atmosphere.. Overpass was exceptional with a different theme and different atmosphere I was hoping for -overpass +train or now they can remove mirage and add train to diversify the map's atmospheres

2024-04-27 13:30

how about a Dust3 ? ... CS is developing so slow

2024-04-27 13:48

when you reach max level, you stop leveling. i guess that goes for maps, too =b

2024-04-27 20:24

Amazing

Why u didnt remove fkn vertigo shit map Overpass much better than vertigo

2024-04-27 13:53

Dust2 = cs1.5=cs1.6=csgo=cs2 the best Map

2024-04-27 14:09

It should have been -vertigo +d2.

2024-04-27 14:21

D2 is terrible to try and carry Premier and not that interesting to watch T1, total L.

2024-04-27 14:44

People are still distracted from the most important thing in the fucking game, and that is .. guess what ? anti-cheat! volvo pls fix

2024-04-27 14:57

Well.. maybe they will finally remove Mirage before my 40th bday no worries Valve, you still got 11 years to do it

2024-04-27 15:38

Vitality top 1 rest of year confirmed

2024-04-27 15:45

I dont know why overpass vertigo is terrible bad map ever of cs history

2024-04-27 15:46

Delighted with the return of Dust2 and the removal of Overpass, now get rid of Vertigo ASAP.

2024-04-27 18:51

Vertigo laughing in the background

2024-04-28 09:50

Why tf dust 2. I hate that map from bottom of my heart. Bring back train or anything else but dust 2.

2024-04-28 13:39

Better try train again

2024-04-29 10:33

CS is not CS without Dust2. We might be overwhelmed by it but It always welcome back.

2024-04-29 12:53

Best map ever.

2024-04-29 16:16

-Mirage +Train

2024-04-30 04:09

Overpass was definitely not it. Inferno definitely had to go before it. Even more criminal was that dust2 was added in the map pool before train or cache. Pure laziness from valve. zzzzzzzzz

2024-05-03 04:45