apEX on mezii: "I always believed in him"

Vitality's captain was highly critical of the team's performance in the last two finals they played in.

apEX was blunt in saying that Vitality needed ZywOo if they want to win tournaments

Looking to claim their first trophy of the 2024 season, when Vitality emerged the victors in their semi-final series against Spirit, the European side seemed poised to claim the IEM Dallas title ahead of a matchup against G2 utilizing Jake "⁠Stewie2K⁠" Yip as a stand-in.

In a shocking turn of events, Vitality ultimately faltered in a hotly-contested grand final, seeing Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire and co. fall short in their second-consecutive grand final.

Ahead of Vitality run in the BLAST Premier Spring Finals, apEX spoke to HLTV regarding the team's build-up in form over the year, falling short in the ESL Pro League Season 19 and IEM Dallas finals, and what the team needs to regain the form they displayed late last year.


Back-to-back grand finals for you guys. Does it feel like you're getting back to peak Vitality slowly?

Yes. I think what mattered the most before was the playoff games we played before the finals, they were pretty clean in both tournaments. That is what is the good thing for us. Unfortunately against MOUZ we just didn't show up at all. It was one of the worst finals I have played in my entire career. Against G2, we threw that one away. We had four map points on Inferno, and we just really fucked up. That's just the way it is.

We just want to remember that we've been to two grand finals in a row, and that we had really good playoff games as well. So for us, it's just getting better after a disaster Katowice, okay semi-final in Copenhagen, two finals now. Now it's maybe time to get a title.

About that grand final against G2, was it especially disappointing because they had a stand-in?

Not really. I think that he also removed a lot of pressure from their shoulders. Having Stewie on home soil, I think that helped them so much. I think just the way we lost it, as I said, with the four map points on Inferno, almost getting back on Anubis, and just falling down on Nuke where we just didn't show up in some sense.

The stand-in part is not the thing, they just beat MOUZ, they beat FaZe, so it's not about that. We could see that NiKo played probably one of his best tournaments in CS2 while IGLing. m0NESY was obviously the MVP of the tournament. I think it removed a lot of pressure from their shoulders in general, and they just played really well, with the help of Stewie's crowd, I would say.

What do you think was the shortfall in these games?

I think what fucked us obviously is that Inferno when we have the map point, 5v4, we lose the round, and then we have lost three T rounds in a row on overtime. Then losing three CT rounds on Inferno is almost unacceptable. The way we lost it, with miscommunication, it was a mess of shit.

I think [G2] played well overall, and they did what they could do with a stand-in, and we just had good reads but couldn't convert the rounds at all, we just lost stupid rounds because of communication. But yeah, that's CS; that's always what teams will say when they lose in front of crowds, but that's where you have to get better at communicating and having a better understanding and making better choices overall in those big games.

apEX cited communication as a critical issue for Vitality in recent losses

Somebody who has been getting a little bit of flak is mezii. It feels like he is individually starting to pick things up on the server. What are your reflections on how he has developed with the team?

I think mezii's biggest problem is that sometimes he is not just thinking enough for himself. I would say also a bit, maybe doesn't get enough balls at some point. We try to help him towards that. I think that if he was in fnatic he would have done the moves, but here with Vitality he's a bit more scared with the players he's with and with everything around. We just ask him to be himself for a long time. Of course, it's not easy for him.

I have a good example with the Danes back in 2022, where they were not at their level, and when you play with a new team and you have different things, it takes time to produce your real level. That's what happened for him, sometimes it clicks, sometimes it doesn't, and for him it's just slow.

I think we also did a really good World Finals, a good Dallas now. I just hope that it's gonna continue. I always believed in him, I always knew about his talent and how much he could produce numbers as well for the team. It was just about himself, and how he would reach to everything.

In Dallas, he just did a fantastic second map against Spirit, and then he was the highest-rated on the team in the final, so I think he is in the right role. I'm not to going ask him to have those kinds of performances all the time, because we also have other players that can do it, but it just feels good that we can see that he is also able to do that for the team and for himself.

Compared to peak Vitality last year, how far away do you think you are from that level?

I think it's just a small thing about confidence. Just with a click, it can come. Obviously, we need it next then in ZywOo. That's just how it is when you have one of the best players in the world. If you want to win tournaments, you need him, that's the truth.

We need also a bit better from Spinx as an individual, as well. But I can see that it's not a big margin, because sometimes we had a final where Spinx wasn't the best, where ZywOo, wasn't the best, or whatever, and we just ping-ponged between each other when sometimes I had a good game or flameZ had a good game.

We just need to be more consistent as individuals overall. I think as a team we get much better each day. We've improved a lot since the beginning of the year, so I think it's just about improving on individuals, and I think if it clicks at the same time it's going to be pretty rough for the opponents.

Looking at this tournament, the last of the season, will you look at it as a disappointment if you don't win it? Will you look at the first half of the year as disappointing if you don't get a trophy?

I don't know if I will be really disappointed. Of course, you will always expect trophies when you have such a good year and when you are Vitality. But I don't know if I will be that disappointed, it just depends on the result here. Obviously losing a third final in a row would hurt a lot, but that's the way it is. I think we're just gonna give our best.

When you look back at our season, except Katowice, the rest is pretty good. Even though we didn't win a Major, we still got the semi-final, close game against FaZe. It's crazy that I thought it was a pretty long season but we had only five tournaments, with all the groups, RMRs, etc, it's only five. I expect to try to win this one, and I would be a bit disappointed but I don't think the whole road would be disappointing.

France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
2274
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.70
United States Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1559
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.69
GOAT MEZII BETTER THAN OVERRATED MESSI
2024-06-11 22:03
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Sweden Vrede
ok but still bots
2024-06-11 22:03
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Indonesia Fazaa
Liar he a ronaldo fan
2024-06-11 22:08
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fraudpex blaming mezii lmao
2024-06-11 22:08
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he actually doesn't blame mezii. Just says he believes in him and sees how mezii has low confidence in making plays or just moving around which wasn't the case in fnatic. He's trying to help him regain the confidence
2024-06-11 22:12
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My guy you should take your time to read the article next time you might succeed to extract valid information from it
2024-06-11 23:04
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France Utaii
Tell me you didn t read it the article without saying it
2024-06-11 23:22
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MissingReadingSkills
2024-06-12 13:31
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Missingbrain
2024-06-12 14:35
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just blame the new guy, easy solution
2024-06-13 01:11
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i mean we saw at fnatic that mezii is a top tier rifler, you dont just magically lose all your abilities. the problem was mezii had to adjust to his new role and imo he is doing some amazing work as a b anchor on some maps, one of the most ungrateful roles/position in the game.
2024-06-11 22:08
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tbh, they need him as ramp anchor on Nuke. FlameZ back on A to solve comms on Nuke
2024-06-11 22:13
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they changed it? i believe mezzi was ramp player when they won 2 titles and some tourneys after
2024-06-12 00:43
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yes. They don't trust now A hold because of that apEX plays mini/main and ZywOo by the garage locked with potential of rotation however small just like apEX to support A side. Still it failed vs G2 just needed 15s to take hold (Spinx and mezii is just not it)
2024-06-12 14:49
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they were probably a hairs length from benching him before his dallas performance, and apex probably agreed.
2024-06-11 22:18
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doubt. apEX talked about him so much in EPL that he is improving and has insane potential.
2024-06-11 22:29
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no one shits on teamates live, but mabye. seen to much pr bs from orgs to trust anything that comes out of players mouthes.
2024-06-11 22:34
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The fact apEX talks about it for 2-3 months and also defends mezii. I don't think he's doing it for PR. apEX as a person seems more genuine, though it sounds funny. He's privately different than what he is to publicity. It was confirmed by various people.
2024-06-11 22:50
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apEX never had any impact on the kick vitality made, wether it was french to international, -misutaa or -dupreeh. He just gave input for who should replace magisk once he decided to leave because he was asked
2024-06-11 23:07
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Can't wait for mezii to lift BLAST trophy in London on sunday! ZywOo wont go missing again in final
2024-06-11 22:20
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GOD DID
2024-06-11 22:26
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Bot praising another bot
2024-06-11 22:48
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Germany hltvfinest
except when you kicked him August 2024
2024-06-11 23:00
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EZZZZ
2024-06-11 23:09
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bro talking like they won something recently
2024-06-11 23:22
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low iq comment
2024-06-12 10:41
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biggest problem is you stealing good spots bro
2024-06-11 23:30
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ez for Ronado metzi
2024-06-11 23:57
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Your days are numbered lil bro
2024-06-12 00:04
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Just kick botpex and let mezii IGL
2024-06-12 09:13
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
yeah but no one believes in you bud
2024-06-12 09:14
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+1
2024-06-12 13:59
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apEX > Zywoo All the haters will cry when karrigan leaves and Dan keeps on playing ;)
2024-06-12 10:15
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Did ApEX got 2.42 rating in an official game?
2024-06-12 12:44
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Huh ? What Karrigan retirering has to do with coping because of apex ?
2024-06-12 13:32
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That is cope 100%. However apEX hate is unjustified, just like ZywOo fraud or ghost one. The reason why they fail, is because of massive position changes (some will be seen rolled back probably like Nuke). When they were up against wall when mezii couldn't perform
2024-06-12 14:51
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