ZywOo interview: Not enjoying fame, six years at Vitality, and his future

The French superstar sat down with HLTV for a lengthy chat about his career.

HLTV sat down with Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut before the player break to talk about all things Counter-Strike in an in-depth interview conducted by Jason "⁠moses⁠" O'Toole.

The duo touched on several topics throughout the interview, ranging from his time in Vitality to some more personal subjects.

The French superstar began the interview by looking back at his career in Vitality, where he spent six years. "It's now not only people working for me. It's more friends, and it's awesome to have them behind," he began.

"I don't care about being the superstar because, in the end, they are all just my friends. They don't see me as ZywOo but as Mathieu Herbaut, that's why I like them. Whenever I see their smile, I'm just happy to see them."

ZywOo says he doesn't enjoy the limelight

ZywOo had a plethora of teammates throughout his six years in Vitality, but Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire was a constant presence across the superstar's time in the organization.

The Frenchman also transformed into a respected IGL during their time together, and ZywOo says he always saw him as a leadership figure. "When we had the discussion about who should take over as the IGL, it was 100% clear he is the next leader for me," he said.

"We can just follow his call because we know it's going to be a good call. We try to help him, but when he makes a call, his energy ensures it's a good one."

ZywOo was full of praise for apEX's development as an IGL

The conversation transitioned to his enjoyment of CS, and the Frenchman admitted he doesn't enjoy the limelight. "When I'm playing games, I don't feel anything because I know what I'm doing. I'm more afraid of speaking in front of people than playing."

He was then asked about the best and worst aspects of being a pro player and gave a simple answer. "We are going from one tournament to another so fast, so sometimes it's really hard to enjoy it," he said about the negatives.

"But the first thing that makes me enjoy it is winning. [laughs] Also, having all this chemistry with your teammates. You can feel all five [connected] on the server and feel really good, and when you are in a good team bubble, you can beat anyone."

The Frenchman described team chemistry as very important

ZywOo then shared that he doesn't watch demos to prepare, something that has become a staple of top-tier CS in recent years. "I'm watching the game while I'm playing, and I see things instantly, but I'm never rewatching it. Once I have seen it once, I don't need to see it twice."

The interview ended with ZywOo looking to the future, and he admitted he doesn't think about it yet. "For me, I'm living day by day, not thinking about the future and what I'm going to do, or if I'm going to be a coach or manager. Just enjoying the moment."

You can watch the full in-depth interview through the embed at the start of this article or on HLTV's YouTube channel.

United States Jason 'moses' O'Toole
Jason 'moses' O'Toole
Age:
37
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
18
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.71
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1300
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
2286
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
nice
2024-07-02 18:23
9
Kinda rude to say u don't enjoy another player, what has fame ever done to you :<
2024-07-02 18:26
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3 replies
He's a good entry fragger, why ZyWoo gotta do him like that???
2024-07-02 18:35
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1 reply
hello r u lunatic who played in crusader order at some point with someone called laga?
2024-07-03 13:29
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#26
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Nepal Voicon
vitality -apex +fame. 5 year of friendship with Apex, it hurts a lot.
2024-07-02 19:03
8
Respect ZywOo. A beast on the servers and himself outside of them. Will always cheer for you.
2024-07-02 18:24
29
FL1T is better anyways
2024-07-02 18:24
49
2 replies
more consistent yes, wouldn't necessarily say better
2024-07-02 18:37
1
#27
ZywOo | 
France Utaii
0/8
2024-07-02 19:05
2
Respect those who simply enjoy the game
2024-07-02 18:25
18
Zywoo to G2 wtf
2024-07-02 18:26
3
this guy really should speak his mental and approach of the game , its a 0.000001 kind of players
2024-07-02 18:28
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3 replies
#69
Faceit level 8  | 
NiKo | 
China skyojoj
This great character is innate and related to his family; his mother educated him well.And you will always want Zywoo to be your teammate.
2024-07-03 03:36
1
2 replies
never seen someone that feel 0 stress & doesnt give a fuck who his opponent name is , there is a switch in his brain that let him play his 100% no matter what the situation is , & how he got such a high ceiling at a very young age is another story in its own
2024-07-03 13:50
0
1 reply
#97
Faceit level 8  | 
NiKo | 
China skyojoj
he talks about it in every interview, "play my own game" XD
2024-07-04 08:54
0
Zywoo is messaging my mother
2024-07-02 18:33
0
Fame did nothing wrong
2024-07-02 18:40
2
my goat
2024-07-02 18:40
3
#17
Faceit level 10  | 
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United Kingdom m0nK_
fame is nice guy wtf
2024-07-02 18:43
6
#18
Faceit level 8  | 
Singapore Slaughtrr
Mathieu "⁠Look everyone, I am very humble⁠" Herbaut
2024-07-02 18:44
9
9 replies
nah more like Mathieu " I just wanna enjoy my time and live a simple life" Herbault
2024-07-02 18:56
63
5 replies
Weird, he could've gone work at a farm on France's countryside if that was truly his mindset, Esports is quite public, and since he grew up on faceit i doubt he didn't know it.
2024-07-02 22:12
2
4 replies
#57
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Nepal Voicon
99% of Cs players on faceit like Zywoo. Calm and enjoy CS. That is how Zywoo makes cultural impact.
2024-07-02 23:59
2
#63
Faceit level 10  | 
REZ | 
Sweden Ropstens
Maybe he just enjoys competing in cs?
2024-07-03 01:46
1
#73
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United States usurpator
You prob never worked in your life to say such thing Working in a farm IS hard as fuck
2024-07-03 08:26
2
Weird that you think gaming is not mostly a hobby given to a simple seclusion. It is obvious ZywOo is a competitive but private person, I think he balances the two quite well.
2024-07-03 13:16
1
Zywoo is not natosaphix, he is not pretending to be another guy.
2024-07-02 20:50
1
sullygnome.com/channel/cs_zywoo/365 yes he cares so much about being famous. That's why he has only streamed 3 times ever.
2024-07-02 21:31
5
#83
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France evilZback
polish avg hater 🤡
2024-07-03 12:33
0
Poor fame he ain do nun
2024-07-02 18:45
12
Being a public figure is difficult, and not made for everyone. The fact he isn't comfortable with his fame, is more anxious doing interviews than playing some of the biggest games of CS is telling. I hope he keeps playing well, he really is a terrific player, but with how often he is pushed in front of a camera with a microphone in his hand rather than playing CS is worrying. Let the guy play CS, stop forcing the guy into interviews and ads he doesnt want to do.
2024-07-02 18:46
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#21
Faceit level 5  | 
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United Kingdom hants
Gigachad doesn't watch demos just remembers the moments
2024-07-02 18:49
4
#22
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
"when you are in a good team bubble, you can beat anyone." Ye, just as long as it's not in Katowice playoffs, or a top 5 team in Major playoffs ;P
2024-07-02 18:53
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#28
ZywOo | 
France Utaii
Yah I mean not like they won loads in 2023....oh wait...
2024-07-02 19:08
7
16 replies
#30
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
still didn't win Cologne, a single match in Katowice playoffs, or beat a single top 5 team in a Major playoffs (not just 2023, but his entire career ;P)
2024-07-02 19:11
5
14 replies
he won a major at a young age which gives him possibility of winning another one at much later date while some have not achieved this feat even with this Paris major some refer to "CCT Finals". ZywOo is 23 and players like NiKo 27
2024-07-02 19:17
5
13 replies
#33
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
Zywho fans always talking about his future as if it negates the fact that he's never won Cologne, never beaten a single team in Katowice playoffs, and has never beat a single top 5 team in Major playoffs (and only beat 1 top 15 teams XD), 6 years into his career XD
2024-07-02 19:47
5
12 replies
and has NiKo won any katowice & Cologne up till 26yo, while playing from 2013 that's 10 years for Kato & Cologne victory. Not every player has to win it all at the same time, some do it. Some don't it's simple, btw C9 was in top7 during Major in Denmark - while it isn't top 5 it's as close as you can get so no.
2024-07-02 19:52
5
7 replies
#41
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
it's still not top 5 LMFAO and only 1 top 7 team isn't anything to be proud of XDDDD Also who tf is talking about NiKo here all this waffling doesn't make the points I mentioned any less laughable XD
2024-07-02 20:22
5
3 replies
#47
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Russia RenTao
imagine trying to make fun of people who are much more successful, rich and well-off than u LMFAO
2024-07-02 21:12
4
2 replies
#54
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
bro this kind of glazing is the most embarrassing flexing another mans riches ooft
2024-07-02 23:31
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1 reply
#77
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Russia RenTao
i'm just spitting factos u should get a life and touch a grass your efforts to make fun of people who are much more successufl, rich and well-off than u is pretty pathetic :)
2024-07-03 09:29
0
good GOD the nerve on you to say that about cloud9 That Cloud9 at coppenhaguen was more dead than your sexual life, everyone hated eachother, electronic was already half a foot into Virtus Pro, perfecto was out as fuck, and they didn't even have an awper, they got to major playoffs without an awper, wtf man, that's like if mouz beats FaZe at major playoffs but everyone in FaZe hates eachother, sjuush is playing instead of broky, and ropz is already with his foot in G2's door...imagine actually having the nerve to go "teh mouz finly killeded teh fass in big stage laaawwwlllllL" wtf man, the moment ZywOo played against a real team in coppenhaguen he got thoroughly brutalized, did you actually watch that semis? FaZe MURDERED HIM. And btw against that dead cloud9 which disbanded the moment the major ended, ZywOo was actually fucking shit lol, wtf hahahahahahha, actually remember the match, his israeli bodyguards picked him up and carried him on their shoulders all the way to the semis.
2024-07-03 00:55
1
2 replies
Somehow the dead C9 ended up in playoffs of all the good teams and Vitality almost beat FaZe without ZywOo performing well.
2024-07-03 12:06
0
1 reply
Vitality always keeps getting lucky with the playoffs draw its actually embarassing af. and what do you mean "almost beat them" ??????? the 3rd map was 13-8 stomp by FaZe dude.
2024-07-03 16:25
0
bro with how specific your criticisms are it's obvious the guy could win 10 majors in a row and you would be like "yes he won 10 majors in a row but he hasn't beaten a top2 team in the final while going 1.4+ rating on all 3 maps & he was only mvp of 9 of them and not 10 so he is just getting carried"
2024-07-02 21:33
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3 replies
#55
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
except if he won 10 majors I would call him the GOAT, but he hasn't so again stop with the typical zywho fan behaviour of talking about things that haven't happened I'm also specific about these because he's quite literally the only player from every top 1 I can think of that all 3 are true for. Especially this many years into his career...
2024-07-02 23:37
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1 reply
yeah ok buddy
2024-07-05 03:00
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#76
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Russia RenTao
exactly lmao u should have seen how he defended s1mple when he played 0.94 agains noname team
2024-07-03 09:29
2
Not a single team in Blast Paris Playoffs that Vitality beat was even top23.
2024-07-02 22:13
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#38
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Russia RenTao
oh this mad zywoo hater again u are so obssesed with him xD
2024-07-02 20:01
2
6 replies
#42
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
haven't mentioned him first in quite a while besides when other people mentioned him first but go off king xx you sound like the mad one here XDDD
2024-07-02 20:24
2
3 replies
Nope, it is mostly you with your obsession of zywoo.
2024-07-02 20:53
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#46
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Russia RenTao
Nope, it is mostly you with your obsession of zywoo.
2024-07-02 21:10
6
Nope, it is mostly you with your obsession of zywoo.
2024-07-03 10:13
0
it's like his entire point of existence is to wake up in the morning and post shit about zywoo. people do be crazy
2024-07-03 01:55
2
1 reply
#75
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Russia RenTao
exactly this guy is pathetic
2024-07-03 09:25
0
#66
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada p1peb0mb
Even top 5 teams were scared of vitality that major lol
2024-07-03 02:50
0
#79
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Korea aespa
You lot are insufferable. Everything has to be a dick measuring contest for you. Is it that hard to enjoy watching a talent like ZywOo? What's it to you that he didn't win X or Y tournament?
2024-07-03 10:50
1
#25
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Latvia Ryzmii
you can say what u want about french people but if u hate zywoo i have some words for you and they wont be nice words this guy is unhateable, walking W
2024-07-02 19:01
16
I have nothing against ZywOo, but all of his answers are always boring af
2024-07-02 19:11
4
6 replies
Better than toxic guy or nah? Imo monesy is the best personality
2024-07-02 19:57
2
2 replies
Yeah, I like ZywOo because despite his obvious talent, he is a team player, but then I value this aspect which is why NAF is my favourite player For sure though m0NESY one-ups him, not only as an obvious team man, he still has that ability to just take over games like a NiKo, s1mple, etc, in a way ZywOo has not yet That is not a criticism of ZywOo but a compliment to m0NESY
2024-07-03 13:26
1
1 reply
Agreed 100%
2024-07-03 14:33
0
He has been saying the exact same thing for like a decade lol
2024-07-03 00:40
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2 replies
#80
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Korea aespa
Maybe because that's how he truly feels? IDK
2024-07-03 10:50
2
1 reply
Never reveal your true self. Men must remain stone cold, let the anger grow until it’s time to finally unleash vengeance
2024-07-03 15:43
0
GOAT
2024-07-02 19:26
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#35
Faceit level 4  | 
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
poor vp fame
2024-07-02 19:53
2
1 reply
he's talking about canadian FAME
2024-07-02 23:49
0
All I got was fame is Rushin and not the best in bed
2024-07-02 19:55
1
#39
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China hdgamerrr
Bench Mezzi and you all gonna achieve more this year.
2024-07-02 20:12
1
GOAT
2024-07-02 20:15
3
#50
Faceit level 7 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal dracø
A simple guy, enjoying the game and the friends he makes along the way. I respect that
2024-07-02 21:41
5
the script writers have moved on from zywoo to donk and monesy they thought they thought of the perfect storyline zywoo born on cs release last csgo major in paris he wins his first major it really wasnt that interesting because of the teams they faced and didnt bring in more fans and generate that much buzz so now its all about donk and monesy when will they face off? who is better
2024-07-03 00:30
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#65
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada p1peb0mb
People were literally talking about zywoo vs m0nesy matchups and zywoo vs donk matchups in the past 3 months lol
2024-07-03 02:48
0
3 replies
monesy and donk were set to face off for the 1st time ever at london, but surprise surprise monesy didnt have a passport and a new one was being sent out articles non stop about if he will make it then articles about he will miss it and arrive 2 hours late. for someone who just came back from Dallas and 2 days later he doesnt have a passport is a script writers dream they still havent faced off, and you bet the next time they do it will be a spectacle i cant wait the hype is killing me
2024-07-03 02:58
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2 replies
#71
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada p1peb0mb
its all about m0nesy missing and will he play against vitality after reaching london lol
2024-07-03 04:28
0
Problem is that its hard to get off ZywOo, he literally beat m0nesy and donk the first time they faced eachother. ZywOo also is very close to beating what s1mple couldn't literally if he bounces back and goes past donk & m0nesy statistics wise and MVP. Which is possible, then he could be 4x top 1 (no player has done that not even s1mple) + beat s1mple MVP record (21), ZywOo has (19 - only s1mple beat dev1ce record which was 19mvp)
2024-07-03 12:10
1
I still blame Blast for ruining the final CSGO Major They could have overcome what was a surprise Playoffs, if they'd built up the storylines better and placed some nostalgia into the broadcast We still would have had a lacklustre line up but at least we'd have celebrated the end of CS:GO Besides, the first CS2 Major had a much better playoff line up and we ended with a lacklustre result, at least Paris gave ZywOo et al a deserving victory
2024-07-03 13:33
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1 reply
they thought they hit the jackpot with the storyline of zywoo chosen one wins the last csgo major in paris(of all places) and also his first. destined to be GOAT born on the release of cs but it all went downhill when he faced all teams outside top20 in the playoffs
2024-07-03 23:56
1
Zywoo is the best player to me. His game sense, crosshair placement and versatility in combination are above the others. Monesy and Donk are awesome but they are not as complete as him
2024-07-03 01:07
3
His future is fighting monesy and donk for no1
2024-07-03 01:23
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#70
Faceit level 10  | 
Ukraine DANTOP1
NOT ENJOYING SIX YEARS AT VITALITY
2024-07-03 03:44
1
G.O.A.T.
2024-07-03 06:19
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#74
Faceit level 7  | 
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France Vsiion
Sorry Fame but Zygoat has spoken
2024-07-03 09:01
0
humble GOAT
2024-07-03 12:38
1
most boring star player in esports history
2024-07-03 14:47
1
Toxic ZywOo humble fame
2024-07-04 06:46
0
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