Maniac admits to "unacceptable behavior," blames alcohol and broken childhood in apology

The Swiss analyst released a statement after several further allegations of inappropriate behavior came to light.

In a statement released on X on Friday, Mathieu "⁠Maniac⁠" Quiquerez has admitted to and apologized for "unacceptable behavior over the years" following multiple sexual assault allegations made against him over the past 48 hours.

The statement followed a Thursday report from Dust2.us in which multiple people corroborated and added to two women's claims they had been "groped" by Maniac at an afterparty following the BLAST Premier Spring Final this June, and unearthed new claims against the Swiss analyst which suggest a pattern of inappropriate behavior dating back at least to at least 2022.

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Maniac did not specifically address or admit to any of the claims in the new statement. He blamed a problematic relationship with alcohol and a broken childhood that led to "unacceptable behaviors over the years," for which he apologized. In a reply, he also said he would "take accountability for [his] mistakes" and "attempt to apologize properly" in a video in the near future.

Maniac's full statement can be found below:

"I have been forced to peer into the abyss and face my worst demons in the last few days. I have had a problematic relationship with alcohol for most of my adult life. I have attempted in many ways to get it under control but I have failed miserably at various points. I am ashamed of my weakness and have been for years. Now I cannot turn a blind eye to it anymore.

"Alcohol reveals my self doubt, my need for promiscuity, to be seen, to be wanted, because a part of me is broken and feels unworthy. I was broken during my childhood and I wish to one day have the strength to address it with courage. This led to unacceptable behaviors over the years for which I am truly sorry. Sorry doesn't even begin to cover it.

"Social medias have allowed me to cowardly desensitize human interactions as if nothing really happened. This was an escape. I never wanted to hurt anyone and I have always tried to give people the respect and the agency they deserve. I looked to fill a void in a pathetic and destructive manner. I will take time to reassess my life, who I am and who I want to be. I have let people down that I deeply care about, I have let this community down and I have let myself down."

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Jee | 
Poland Nalax
at least he apologised
2024-09-06 13:53
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DD | 
China huxishox
because he got no choice, It is just about time even if he doesnt say anything.
2024-09-06 13:57
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YEP, ONLY NAIVE people believe his explanations. Most likely his young kids fans who think he is cool. He lied already once about this, just another lie now: hltv.org/news/39793/maniac-steps-back-fr.. "In his response, Maniac outlined his "drastically different recollection" of the exchange and said he does "not believe any sexual assault took place."" In my country he would get LIFE SENTENCE for his actions!
2024-09-06 19:24
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#381
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
sh1ro | 
Russia bswoosah
It's a different culture, i'm surprised by all these boyfriends chiming in that he did that to their gf when they were present. Bro I would not let it slide... But it's a culture difference i guess, less fighting or what ever.
2024-09-06 21:16
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what would be the point of jacky throwing his career and potentially relationship with damp? we don't know how she'd react to jacky taking a swing.
2024-09-07 03:18
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??? flag
2024-09-07 08:52
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#394
Faceit level 10  | 
NiKo | 
Italy Spiryn
Okay, life sentence is absolutely wild and out of place for the context this took place. Grinding on a woman's ass at a party can not ever be compared to the most heinous crimes that happen everyday around the world, such as murder, rape, human trafficking, and many others. I'm not defending him by any means, he's absolutely in the wrong and deserves everything that happened to him so far, but a life sentence is just absurd for any country or person to even remotely consider. You have to pay proportionally for the damage and the gravity of your crime/wronging. His career is already fucked, one may say--"done". That's probably more than devastating for him. Working so many years, so much grind, to then do a stupid mistake that was totally avoidable to then ruin your career. Not worth at all.
2024-09-06 22:37
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this (please don't ban me JONATHAN E, I just broadly agree with his points)
2024-09-07 00:58
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You were doing well until “he deserves everything that happened to him so far” He acted inappropriately when drunk, something most people do in their life’s at some point. People are programmed to have extreme reactions when anything involving women or sexual abuse is mentioned, squeezing someone’s ass by somebody who you haven’t welcomed it to is wrong and should be told not to do it again, if continued it becomes more serious, and he should be punished for that, but clearly he has a problem with alcohol so the punishment should start there. Losing his job? Way too severe a punishment. He didn’t rape anybody or anything like that. I also saw somebody say something about him texting an 18 year old and him being disgusting due to that? You might want to check the laws, 18 is a legal, consenting adult. Just because you find it personally wrong, doesn’t mean it is in reality.
2024-09-07 09:02
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Finland ThaMuse
A few things. Saying that losing his job is too severe? So after multiple years of this behaviour, you think it would be okay to the (apparently) dozens of victims who've experienced this, that they'd have to continue seeing this man at their jobs? Nah. About the 18-year old. He is over 30, he started messaging her when she was 17. If you don't see anything profoundly weird about this, I don't know what to tell you.
2024-09-07 11:00
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Yes, a persons livelihood is a very important thing to be taken very, very seriously. We’re not living in the past anymore where the average level of inteligence is very low, we know that people suffer with addictions and problems which influence their behaviour. Taking their livelihood away will usually lead to worsening of these problems, we instead need to help people to become rehabilitated, while also appeasing the victims, as long as the crime isn’t too severe obviously. Yeah there’s nothing wrong with a 30 year old and an 18 year old, if you think there is then that’s a you problem. Depending on the country, 17 may be too young legally speaking, but in England it’s 16, France germany and Italy it’s 15. Morally, that depends on the individuals. If the 18 year old is very mature etc then that’s fine, if they’re clearly very immature and don’t really know what they want / what they’re getting into, it’s different, just as anybody taking advantage of somebody would be bad of any age. Same situation as messaging her when she was 17, depends on the legality of that in the country he’s in. She might well know exactly what she wants, fine him highly attractive and be completely ok with the casual side of it.
2024-09-07 11:13
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Finland ThaMuse
Yes, addiction is a terrible disease that should be treated properly. If your addiction repeatedly harms others around you, a 30-year old should take responsibility and act accordingly. Instead of these hypothetical situations, focus on what actually happened. He started messaging her when she was underage and kept it up despite the approach not being reciprocated. Regardless of if it's legal or not, messaging girls that are half your age is weird and borderline p***** behaviour. Doesn't really matter what the girl thinks about it.
2024-09-07 11:52
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Nope, still not underage. Try again. There’s no such thing as borderline paedophilic behaviour, it’s either paedophilic (attracted to pre pubescent minors under the age of 13) or it isn’t. She was 17, which is nowhere near qualifying for paedophilia. Be careful how you use your extreme words, if you don’t want them to lose their meaning.
2024-09-07 13:45
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Finland ThaMuse
? Yes it is. You even said it yourself that 17 is illegal in some countries. If you’re over 30, why are you pursuing girls that are barely legal if even that. If it happened in the states, there might be grounds for a legal case as he started messaging her before she was 18, the legal age to become an adult. So yes, 17 is underage despite being over England’s age of consent.
2024-09-07 15:53
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Because some men are able to get younger women, as they’re generally more attractive. No, 15 would be underage. The legal age for consent is 16.
2024-09-07 20:31
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Anyone who can recite the age of consent in different countries is a creepy weirdo. We might want to check your hard drive. Maniac is 34, educated, and with a good career. You'd expect someone like him to be dating and building stable romantic connections with people of his age and status. That's the norm. It's abnormal for men in their mid thirties to talk to teenage girls.
2024-09-07 12:04
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I don't defend Maniac's actions, but SIDE POINT: Its not unnormal that like 34 years man date about 20-28 woman (adults), look celebrities for example like Leonardo DiCaprio. Even normal people do it, especially if men is successful. There is nothing wrong in that. Maniac actions towards women were wrong.
2024-09-07 13:18
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Anybody who knows the law is a creepy weirdo. Gotcha. Lock all the lawyers up Asap!! Btw, dicaprio is currently seeing a 19 year old.
2024-09-07 13:43
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Imagine thinking DiCaprio is normal? All sane people think he's a creepy weirdo.
2024-09-07 16:44
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Yeah, all those hundreds of millions of people who support him by watching his films sure do reject him!!
2024-09-07 20:31
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Finland ThaMuse
Except Dicaprio has been criticized for years for this exact behaviour
2024-09-07 15:50
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Yet he is star so he got his advocate army. I bet there are finnish stars too who got caught and they still continue their careers. Like that Yle English news about Aku Hirviniemi etc. I remember reading it. There was link in this forum to that news. Might be wrong country thought, but reply me if I got it right.
2024-09-07 16:20
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Finland ThaMuse
Exactly, it's like it's impossible for them to look at it from a neutral standpoint to see if there's something wrong with the behaviour. Hirviniemi lost his career, started selling his watches on fb groups etc. Probably not gonna be in the spotlight at least in the coming years.
2024-09-07 17:06
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No sane person thinks DiCaprio is normal bruv. Absolutely no one. Normal people date within their class, age, and tax bracket. Every 30 or 40 year old dating a teenager or >25 women/men has a problem.
2024-09-07 16:43
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Or, you are a Timothy who is unable to get anyone outside of your age group, like most average men.
2024-09-07 20:32
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Alcoholics and those with sex addictions are sick. They are not well people and don't have awareness to those around them they hurt or offend. I can point at Russel Brand as exactly this type of person. He has changed his life and is now in a healthy relationship and is no longer a slave to these terrible masters. Maniac needs to get help - get his life in order and then start to crawl out of the hole he is in, the only way out is through it. If you don't know someone like this hold your judgement and moral superiority. It is a terrible life they lead, and I hope he can turn it around while he is still young.
2024-09-07 01:14
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#415
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Canada Emperor1e
The blame is entirely on him, and he deserves to lose his career over this. That being said, I’m familiar with the archetype of person you’re describing from my own personal experiences with people who were close to me, and you’re right. These people aren’t entirely unredeemable. It is a miserable existence and I don’t wish it on anyone. I’ve seen the most goodhearted genuine people destroy their lives and the lives of others, either unknowingly, or too sick to comprehend their actions. Despite this, it’s still their fault, still an action they took, and still their responsibility to atone for and look for a path to recovery.
2024-09-07 05:26
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Exactly. Well said brother
2024-09-07 09:03
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Russel Brand is a prick, he does a lot of harm with his stupid videos where he plays along to putin.
2024-09-07 10:56
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I don't have a comment on his videos or his content or opinions - I am saying he changed his life and no longer has sex or alcohol addictions. He is happily married and has children. This was the ultimate party boy and did things similar to maniac, they can change and be healthy and happy.
2024-09-07 19:51
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Bro It's not a Sexual Assault. It's not a Rape. It's a Harassment. Why would anyone give a life sentence for Harassment. Maniac inappropriately touch a girl. He didn't rape a girl. It's Not a sexual assault. Wake up everyone
2024-09-07 06:20
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I know what you’re saying, but groping somebody who doesn’t want you to is still technically a sexual assault, especially if they’ve told you to stop. If they haven’t told you to stop and they seem like they’re happy / welcoming it With their body language, facial expressions etc, Then that is consent.
2024-09-07 09:06
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But look what happens, this guy did so much for CS and events and people still took the U turn against him. Like he was a criminal. What if she lied to destroyed his carrier. Like Jonney Depp and Amber Heard case. We can't trust someone's words, until we have evidence
2024-09-07 10:11
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#437
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Finland ThaMuse
"Like he was a criminal" Yeah what he did can easily be constituted as crimes. Why are you going on about "what if she lied" when there's more than enough evidence to this case already?
2024-09-07 11:02
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Yes again I know what you’re saying, the evidence is that she accused him and somebody else did, the ‘proof’ is that he admitted to it. He didn’t have to admit it and could have denied the whole thing, we need to see him admitting to groping people as a start of his path to redemption. The people who completely turn against him with no mercy etc reveal themselves as small minded sheep.
2024-09-07 11:06
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Except that at least 5 different women, jacky, 2 pros (cypher and rhys) and 2 on camera talent working with blast (who wished to remain anonymous) also said the same thing. What do you need, video evidence of him groping women to be sure?
2024-09-07 20:09
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Actually, yes that is exactly what is required considering the weight of these claims and his forever tarnished career. Guy will never work in front of a camera again, I feel like it requires detailed proof. Or where do we end up in the future? Randomly blaming and getting away with it? Do you wanna live in such society? Also, what if they all agreed on 1 version to get rid of him (maniac was the most successful of them all). Certainly, detailed objective investigation is required. What 4,5 or 6 people say is highly insufficient.
2024-09-09 02:33
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Well, good we don't need to live in your country I guess. Poor men in your country really. Harassment IS NOT EQUAL sexual assault. A distinction that should matter. Otherwise any random girl could put innocent men behind bars.
2024-09-09 02:35
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Europe Squirel
of course he had a choice. He could have just left the scene without saying anything also #55
2024-09-06 22:36
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Other prav
Yeah but it barely changes anything, his actions are too bad
2024-09-06 14:07
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If this was limited to one singular incident then this apology would have worked. But considering he was doing it for 2+ years (first known instance at kato 22) and even did something extremely creepy with a minor, no apology is going to make up for that and he will probably never work any job in esports again.
2024-09-06 17:07
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I love how all of these stories suddenly pop out after 2 years, when all of this could have been reported at the time. Something is very off here.
2024-09-09 02:37
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So everyone just collectively decided to say 'screw maniac' while absolutely no one defended him apart from HLTV users and decided to get him banned from working any job in esports again? For what reason? In a lot of cases the stories take years to come out after they happened because of many reasons, like the victims fearing repercussions or people not taking them seriously (already happened in this case when only the first allegation was up), most recent examples are stuff like kris tyson and dr disrespect incidents which happened years ago and only surfaced this year.
2024-09-09 04:51
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Licking through some seriously thick walls here
2024-09-09 11:29
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+1 Blaming alc is like blaming drugs or gambling or whatever 🤣 what an easy excuse lmao. Why didnt he seek help before then? He had enough money for it 😉 unlike other people
2024-09-06 17:26
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Again though this actually COULD work an excuse, but as you said, why didn't he seek therapy for it then? He must've known it was an issue with him getting kicked out of venues because of it. Drugs and alcohol can be a reasonable excuse to a momentary lapse in judgement. Not however for chronic persistent behavior. Then even if it is the alcohols fault it's your fault for not taking control for years, that or you're drunk so often the "drunk you" is simply the real you considering its out just as often as the "real" you is.
2024-09-06 17:33
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Bro i drink like 3x per year and i have friends that do drink a lot... And everyone knows their limit. This is just bs bra. Kennedy has a great quote: the best time to fix your roof is when the sun is shining 😉 Let that one sink 👌
2024-09-06 17:38
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#361
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
It's not entirely about drinking a lot, or your limit. Some people are very different when they drink, and I've witnessed that on more than one occasion. It's not at all an excuse for behavior though. Personal experience tells me a fucked up childhood can cause this, as Maniac's behavior mirrors a close friend's. That said: it's not a valid excuse. People have to face their problems and deal with them. It's hard to admit when you're not in control of yourself, but the bottom line is it's your responsibility not to hurt people around you. When you identify the issue but don't take steps to fix it, ultimately you're the problem. Period.
2024-09-06 20:14
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Not being an excuse in court doesn’t mean it isn’t a valid excuse, courts are not the be all and end all. Eventually as the average IQ increases, it will be an excuse, and people will be banned from drinking alcohol.
2024-09-07 09:08
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#478
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
Being an alcoholic, or not controlling yourself when drinking, isn't an excuse. You're consciously making those decisions regardless. The alcohol may contribute, but you're choosing to consume it. That's the bottom line, and as someone who's known a bunch of alcoholics I can tell you that there's a clear distinction between the ones who get sober and the ones that don't, and one facet is accountability.
2024-09-07 16:59
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It doesn’t excuse the behaviour, but it is a reason for acting the way you do. You aren’t just consciously making the decisions, you can’t just deny and discredit addictions after hundreds of years of people learning to understand and accept them more hahaha. Come on man. If you aren’t able to understand these things then leave the debating to smarter minds.
2024-09-07 20:35
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#509
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
You're making this simplistic and acting like people don't have the freedom of choice, or are incapable of doing self-destructive things while knowing that it's wrong or bad. Even serial killers understand that their actions are inherently wrong, look at Ed Kemper as an example. People have choices. People who are drinking and understanding that they're hurting people have choices. They just don't listen to them, because it's easier to hide your pain and take it out on those around you. You don't get to talk to me like I don't understand this, because I absolutely guarantee you I have a closer appreciation for the "I knew better" of this argument than you do. Even if I didn't have that personal experience, the truth is this is very psych-101 level stuff. People do bad things even knowing they're wrong, and if you think drinking isn't a choice, especially if you understand your actions, then I don't even remotely know what to tell you. This isn't about alcoholism, either, even though that plays into it (because that's how substance abuse in any form tends to work). If you're going to insult someone's intelligence you should learn to make a rational argument before you lean in on how smart you are.
2024-09-07 23:29
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It’s called compulsion. Addicts are mentally unwell, you give way too much credit to the average human brain. I’m not reading your entire comment, but from everything you’ve said previously, it’ll still be wrong and you have a lot to learn about real life.
2024-09-08 00:05
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#517
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
I love how self-assured you are of your own experience or intelligence above others while you literally don't even comprehend that what you just said is practically identical to what I've been saying. Hey, by the way, let's compare "real life." Because I promise my experience is more comprehensive than yours, kid.
2024-09-08 00:28
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But he is right. You gotta learn more about real life. You come with theoretical assumptions from a purely intellectual viewpoint. His arguments come from the reality of people with addictions, there is a large difference between theory and reality.
2024-09-09 02:46
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#556
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
This is not about theoretical anything, and it's absolutely about real life. In real life people with alcohol addictions either get help or they don't, and that's a choice. Plain and simple, it's a choice. That's the entire conversation at a black and white juncture. It's more granular than that, but it's still how it pans out at the most basic of levels. I'm not stupid, I understand what substance abuse is both about, and what it does. I've seen it. I've experienced it. I've seen it both destroy people I've loved, and I've seen people I've cared about get past it. At the end of the day, the people who moved on from it have often told me the same thing: they made the choice to do it, they made the choice to continue, and they made the choice to get clean and walk away (and it usually came with the baggage of damage caused). Not everyone has that luxury, because addiction leans into the worst parts of the human condition. But also, I've seen the people who were aware of their actions under the influence. They weren't alcoholics, but they knew because people told them that their actions while drunk were bad. Yet, they'd still make the decision to continue their behavior, not because they were addicted, but because they made the choice to maintain their lifestyle regardless of who they hurt or didn't. That was always about their own issues that they weren't resolving. Sometimes that leads to actual addiction, sometimes it leads to shit like this Maniac story. Either way, people are self-destructive when they've been through trauma, particularly in their formative years. If you want to talk about real-world experience and what I do or don't know about it, feel free to PM me. I'm not going to air my life out on this forum, but believe me, this is very personal and I'm too old to get told that I don't understand what "real life" is, or that I don't have experience there.
2024-09-09 03:39
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I lick through walls and set your neighbors pool on fire when I am drunk
2024-09-09 03:42
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#559
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
Yeah, that's about exactly the response I figured I'd get. Have a good night.
2024-09-09 03:43
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Btw my RBG chair speaks spanish, while my neck is trying to sell you supermarket discount codes.
2024-09-09 03:47
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I knew when I was 20 years old that mixing alcohol (beer+wine, beer+shots etc) or drinking pure liquor was making me an obnucious person to be around. I know what I can and cant drink. Using alcohol as an excuse is only valid if its your first times drinking or if you are underaged. Grown people know their limits and overcome their shitty origin story.
2024-09-07 14:31
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#479
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
This isn't about "limits" it's about admitting your problems and dealing with them. And for the record, no, grown people don't always overcome their "origin story." It's super simplistic to look at how you handled something and apply it to someone else. People break for myriads of reasons, and some never get through it. That's reality. I'm not a young man, I've seen where these things lead, and I'm not so naive as to paint it in black and white terms, even if I agree that it's their choice to continue their bad behavior.
2024-09-07 17:04
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Yeah that isn’t the same as being and alcoholic. It makes me so angry to see comments as ignorant and stupid as yours, especially as they’re so common among young men. “I’m fine like this so everybody else must be too!!”
2024-09-07 20:36
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I did not want to reply to the other guy because it was his opinion against mine so why bother. But replying to you seems like a must. Basically what I wanted to say with my post is that you should never blame alcohol for your behaviour when you are a grown person. You should know your limits if its something that you have experienced before and had bad experiences with. If that is so hard to understand then maybe you are the one who is stupid?
2024-09-07 21:43
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As I said before, alcoholism is an addiction, some people suffer with it far far more than others, this should be absolutely obvious to anybody with a triple digit IQ. It is absolutely embarrassing in 2024 to have the internet and all the knowledge within it, and still not know things like this.
2024-09-07 22:11
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Must be hard for you
2024-09-08 08:31
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Not as hard as for you it seems.
2024-09-09 02:50
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Can't complain
2024-09-09 03:24
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You wouldn't know
2024-09-09 03:25
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#510
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
Look, I'm not trying to argue with you, and you're right we're both giving opinions, but I agree more with this response than I did with your initial one. I still think you're seeing this in overly black-and-white terms, but I also think it aligns more closely with what I said in #479. I just know that not everyone has the self-control necessary to fix their actions when they've got baggage. This isn't even about alcoholism, it's about how people can be inherently self-destructive.
2024-09-07 23:26
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Imo life is either 1 or 0, yes or no, so yeah I see things in black and white. I dont expect everyone to do the same.. its just my realization on life, every color is nuanced but in the end it is still either this or that color. Something is or it isnt
2024-09-08 10:28
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IQ 74?
2024-09-09 02:50
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Ignore him look at his flag.
2024-09-09 02:48
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2024-09-06 21:11
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> And everyone knows their limit. This is just bs bra. I don't think you know any alcoholics then. Its not about drinking to your limit, its about drinking until you cant.
2024-09-06 23:53
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True, and they lose control of their life, they are so drunk that they don't understand what they are doing at worst case, they basically on level on animals without any real persona left when its continue enough long. And if there are medication + drugs combination along alcohol situation is 10x worse, anything can happen with these "mix users addicts".
2024-09-07 14:28
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You and your mates know their limit, that must mean every single human being knows their limit too. What a special brain you have LOL
2024-09-07 09:07
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Likes bratan. Full sit 😉
2024-09-07 15:24
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He PM me to tell me this "I lick through the thickest walls I can find"
2024-09-09 03:50
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#345
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Alcohol is never an excuse for anything. There's a reason its not a defense in court no matter how much you're addicted. Alcohol doesn't make you do anything, it just gets rid of the part of your brain function that thinks about long-term consequences, your inhibitions. The fact that he did it at all means that's truly him as a person.
2024-09-06 19:18
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Alcohol lowers your inhibitions, so it brings out the real and dumb version of yourself. However keyword REAL, not some fake version, this is the you deep down with no walls and pretending. So if the REAL deep down you is someone who drives and kills people with recklessness, or in maniacs case who sexually harasses/assaults people, then that's awful and you're not a good person atleast you aren't right now. However my point is moreso like if this really did happen only once, and he didn't touch them besides say grabbing them by the hip, I could get by that after a very extended leave from the scene. But this repeat behavior shows that maniac really is seemingly atleast a bit predatory. Rather than just a.... uhhh.... a bit of a degenerate. I think a reasonable example is I've once mistook someone for being a huge asshole to me at a "party" when they weren't and I threw a beer can at them. I regret this massively and I swear I'm not an aggressive person I simply got bullied when I was younger and was taught to not put up with it anymore and my drunk dumbass thought I was being "bullied" again. Anyway I just felt like adding a bit of nuance that doesn't necessarily exist in maniacs case but CAN exist. Not every drunk decision is sexual assault or drunk driving. Sometimes it's more forgivable stuff and sometimes it truly only ever happened once. This isn't the case for maniac unfortunately
2024-09-06 21:03
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#418
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donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
I agree with most, but not the REAL part, dumb tho 100% xD. I've had people who flip 180 in their personality and you can't say that is the REAL them, while others just "enhance" their personality and get a lot more talkative. I've seen many cases where people don't even remember a few hours. So how can you say it is the REAL them? Not all people are the same and same thing applies when they're drunk. I know there is a saying IN VINO VERITAS, but this is easily interpreted the way it suits you and saying it bring the real you out is just inaccurate and shallow. For example, when my mother was young her teacher told all the girls in the class, they should get a man drunk if they're serious with him, so they know what they're getting into. So if he was agro go away, if he was jolly hold on, but what happens to this guy in 10+ years when he gets drunk? You can't know I am not defending Maniac here, but it's not so black and white. Childhood trauma is a serious thing and getting lost in alcohol is a common way of "dealing" with it. Maybe I have a different perception of this situation, because of my age and where I'm from, but women here would mostly say something like this: "Why was she suffering this for 3 hours, why didn't she do anything, why didn't the men around them do anything" If he tried this shit on Balkan girls he would be dead or married "Not every drunk decision is sexual assault or drunk driving. Sometimes it's more forgivable stuff and sometimes it truly only ever happened once" Well said!
2024-09-07 06:33
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but we need to add the part of autonomy, i stopped drinking 7/8 years ago, part of it was i grew up in a alcohol driven family and second part was that i was not becoming myself after i drank, i was aggresive, i was bitter, not at all how i am as a person when sober. But, i recollected myself and knew i don't want to become that person, so i guess Maniac wasnt mindfull about his autonomy at all. Everybody makes mistakes, but when you do some stupid shit once, and you caught yourself doing it again and again, alcohol is never to blame.
2024-09-07 10:19
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Alcohol doesn't bring out the "Real" version of yourself. It can cause the nicest people to turn evil, because they have a bad reaction to it. I don't know why it sounds like a good idea to stupid people that it simply 'brings out the real version of yourself' lol, it's such a dumb concept, and a wild guess at that.
2024-09-07 22:13
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All alcohol does is lower your inhibitions it doesn't change your personality traits what a dumb idea perpetuated by those who refuse to take accountability for their own actions. Genuinely nice people are those who turn into giggling drunks. Drunks who get angry and turn unto assholes truly do feel that way deep down but usually don't show it. Alcohol lowers your inhibitions and makes you more emotional wether those are positive or negative emotions. It's not some weird personality changer. Even meth wouldn't actually change a person, it would just turn them into a paranoid a.d.d version of themselves. No substance full blown changes who someone is deep down. What a ridiculous concept with zero basis.
2024-09-07 22:50
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No, it does many functions within the body, more so in certain individuals. You, clearly being a stupid yet overconfident person, think that something extremely complex is as simple as only doing one thing. For example alcohol can cause large changes in gut bacteria, dopamine receptors, systemic inflammation, it may not be processed properly due to lack of ability to methylate, the liver might struggle, the histamine from alcohol might cause an immune response, plus hundreds of other possibilities, all multiplied by the individuals genetics. Level up or shut up.
2024-09-07 23:13
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Bullshit don't paint me as escaping nuance just because I'm avoiding going off for paragraphs on paragraphs. Obviously every chemical effects every individual differently, but if we are going to EXCLUDE rare exceptions, then it's ridiculous to state alcohol which effects your gaba receptors, would wildly alter your personality and what you consider right and wrong. Someone who doesn't enjoy hurting other people won't suddenly enjoy hurting other people just because they're drunk. Sure you can be so confused you don't realize you're hurting someone. But you can't just be some nice angel who then drinks some alcohol and then genuinely wants to and finds pleasure in hurting other people. What we know about our gaba receptors and the way alcohol effects them is actually pretty akin to how Xanax effects them. Alcohol won't bring out a side of someone that never existed in them prior to the alcohol, it just doesn't work that way. Unless someone literally experiences ego death and loses who they are , or is in a state of serious confusion, the root of the person always (bar rare exceptions) stays. The root of said person doesn't get changed it just gets warped such as being more irratible , having heightened emotions, being far more relaxed than usual and etc etc, and or the person's walls fall down and they stop wearing a mask. Namely on substances such as ones that effect your gaba receptors, and tryptamine psychedelics. If drugs didn't have expected effects on people there wouldn't be physchiatrists who prescribe them to people dumbass do you even think?
2024-09-07 23:54
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It certainly can change a person that much, and more likely, they just don’t know what the hell they’re doing when they’re highly drunk and turn into an animal / child hybrid. This is something I have experienced many times as a recovered alcoholic, and my life is great now. I’ve also met many other people with other addiction problems, you simply have no idea what you’re talking about. Do better.
2024-09-08 00:09
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Oh wow you say "they don't even know what they're doing"? It's almost like I've already said multiple times you brainlet "unless someone's literally so drunk they're confused as to what's even going on" Thanks for agreeing with me genius. Ps. there's no such thing as a "recovered" addict you are always in recovery.
2024-09-08 03:49
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Forget it, it's useless to discuss with people at this forum. The average IQ here is below 80 it seems.
2024-09-09 02:53
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Not being an excuse in court doesn’t mean it isn’t a valid excuse, courts are not the be all and end all. Eventually as the average IQ increases, it will be an excuse, and people will be banned from drinking alcohol.
2024-09-07 09:09
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I don't defend Maniac, but read #450 I have seen this happen to many persons, too many
2024-09-07 14:30
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#463
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Unfortunately, its still them. I've had tons of friends, family, acquaintances that have gotten blackout drunk, to the point where they're completely belligerent. They've never groped people or sexually assaulted them. This is HIM. This isn't some "Oh I don't know who that was!". That's who Maniac truly is underneath.
2024-09-07 15:53
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I don't talk getting drunk like normal people, I speak people with adddiction, who doesn't know what they are doing and are on alcohol and sub stances all the time. They aren't same anymore that they were sober long time ago. But Maniac case is different since he worked and sometimes party like most his age, he doesn't qualify to that people gender I was speaking. But as side talk, Trust me, if you have serious adddiction (when you are on stuff all the time for years) its change you something you never would been when you still were sober years ago. I don't know about your country, but here are people like that. What I read news, you got pandemic too of them, street adddicts what might do anything without any reason and thats why they often end in prison. I am speaking about people who use sub stances for years without sober day, they change to something horrible andhorrific.
2024-09-07 16:15
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No, that’s him when he’s extremely drunk. Most humans If they were born 1000 years ago would have been capable of rape, that doesn’t mean it is “them” lol.
2024-09-08 00:10
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Because he's not man enough to admit what he's done. So people take the easy route "hard childhood, problems with whatever drugs" etc. They are just a bunch of pussies. They should take full accountability and take the L.
2024-09-06 19:29
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#414
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
Clueless take from a clueless child, but you got 2 likes so in your world it's worth
2024-09-07 04:51
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I'm a bit too old to be a child my friend, very nice projection from yourself right there, but I'm not that interested in how you feel about the likes.
2024-09-07 19:24
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People with alcohol issues almost never get help until they hit rock bottom. I know - with a couple people who died from alcoholism in my family. I don't drink a bit - not one drop but you don't get help until your life is in ruins. This is the entire problem. It is a disease like cancer and can be as deadly. I hope he gets his life together.
2024-09-08 01:22
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+++RESPECT earned
2024-09-06 15:09
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#334
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Austria fztik
not actually taking responsibility and blaming it on alcohol and a bad childhood is a really bad apology though.
2024-09-06 18:44
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#339
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United States murph2k
Not really. Admitting to a problem with alcohol and taking accountability for things is about all he can do at this point.
2024-09-06 18:58
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#368
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Austria fztik
Accountability for things he said two days ago that he didn't do. Also his statement makes it seem as if it's ok to touch women without consent if you're drunk.
2024-09-06 20:34
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#360
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Dominica FallczE
That apology has no value, it just reads "I was under the influence and that´s why it happened" and explains his problem. But that´s exactly what it is, his problem, being under the influence of anything doesn´t excuse you from any actions done. It just reveals who you really are. He´s a grown man, deciding what he´ll be.
2024-09-06 20:06
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Brazil's most famous rapper Mano Brown from Racionais MC's one day told that "After they invented the excuses, no one ever died again.".
2024-09-06 20:51
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Thats no even an real apology he blamed it on alcohol
2024-09-09 09:49
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#4
Faceit level 10  | 
s1mple | 
Bhutan testingTheories
DONE. OVER.
2024-09-06 13:53
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#465
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Europe Squirel
maybe not. Maybe there is a road to redemption. If he somehow makes up for what he did and betters himself, he could return in a few years as a better man and an example that change is possible. I highly doubt it, but I hope for it, because it makes the scene and the people within the scene better.
2024-09-07 16:04
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Maybe if they put him in a hanibal lector cart with a straitjacket.
2024-09-07 20:22
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Nah, he done. Dota has had similar sexual assault cases involving talent, and all of them have disappeared from the scene completely. Literally 0 chance any of the big tournament organizers will give him another chance.
2024-09-07 21:51
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Yep it's too risky for any of these guys to have an association with him now, unless we get a company with a pair of balls who don't give in to all the wokies.
2024-09-07 22:15
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Our society is so dumb. Make a mistake and you are out for good, instead of offering people a chance to redemption. Maniac was a good analyst with high-level understanding of the game. Let him sort out his demons get proper treatment and allow him to come back maybe in 3 or 4 years. Not because companies would show some balls, but because he was good for the analytical CS space.
2024-09-09 02:59
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Other Zollbit
gg
2024-09-06 13:54
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must have been hard to write this Striker. + respect
2024-09-06 13:55
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it must have been even harder for the victim of his sexual assault. no respect.
2024-09-06 21:00
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#404
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
flameZ | 
Israel dBo
Oh please..
2024-09-07 00:53
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#17
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Blaming alcohol is not good enough. It isnt an excuse to treat other people the way that he did. Childhood trauma can be considered an excuse but he isn't 20, he could have easily seeked professional help, and he didn't. In the end he messed up big time and deserves to not be hired by any1 anymore
2024-09-06 13:56
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#57
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Norway Xaitzberg
he isnt using it as an excuse tho, hes telling where this behavior came from, thats brave and a good start
2024-09-06 14:05
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#82
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Sure, that is a start, but just because he stated this doesn't mean that community will be sympathetic to him. Personally, I think that he knew that he has trauma and he did nothing about it, shows that he is more incompetent and should be criticized even more for it, as he did nothing about it. If he gets better, and proves to others that he has changed, then I can show him some sympathy, otherwise, he deserves all criticism
2024-09-06 14:15
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i have struggled with trauma all my life and its not that easy unfortunatly. His actions are horrible and there is no excuse for it but if you tell me where it comes from at least you know where to start to fix it. We can both support him in getting better and being a better person and support the victims and put the blame/responcibilty on him to prove he as learnd. He should not be hired in the forseeable future thats for shure.
2024-09-06 18:29
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Well, if you have read my other replies below you would see that I do not deny that people can struggle. I do not deny this. My problem arises when people who have trauma, do terrible things, and just say afterward "I have trauma blah blah blah". If he knew that he has trauma, he could have done something about it. If he gets better, props to him, however he should be accountable for his actions. Im sorry for your struggles, I'm sure that you are able to get better.
2024-09-06 18:33
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i totaly agree with you in that case. i have blamed my behaviour in the past to my struggles and that is unfair to everyone. tnx for your support i hope you have a nice day!
2024-09-06 20:32
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#413
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
I get what you're saying but you are obviously clueless in this subject. What do you know about mental illness? Judging by your responses, very little and that is the basic problem with things like this. This sentence, sorry to say proves you have no clue what it means to be in a situation like this (don't take this as an attack, you are probably just to young or unable to comprehend this situation) "I think that he knew that he has trauma and he did nothing about it, shows that he is more incompetent and should be criticized even more for it, as he did nothing about it" As I've said people who don't go through this or lack empathy to understand this think people who are in this situation are themselves to blame, when actually these mental problems prevent you from doing "something about it" I hope you don't have any friends suffering from mental illness like depression, because people like you who are convinced "doing something about it" will solve everything are ignorant egoistic cunts, clueless about how hard a mental illness can affect a person and your ignorant behaviour just makes it 100x worse.
2024-09-07 04:47
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He mentioned it in the right context and doesn't use it to put anything into relation. I think opening up in that way is not easy especially when u are a person of public interest I hope he comes back and that he can can make the victims feel better as well as sorting out his addiction that a lot more people have than u expect
2024-09-06 18:38
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#59
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
roman | 
Portugal MUTIRIS_VAC_SHOT
Beating childhooh trauma can be a very hard beast to tame, sometimes you don't even realize you have this trauma, sometimes you may be too prideful to recognize you need help and can't beat it alone. Not trying to defend Maniac, after all his trauma/acohol problem could be just a way to excuse his behavior and to try to gain sympathy from the community, it's just that trauma is a lot more nuanced than "just get help", same way sexual abuse/assault victims is more nuanced than "just report it immediately". On the last part I agree 100%
2024-09-06 14:06
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
#82 i just can understand how can you not know about trauma(I have never had one myself luckily), but if that is the case, then i can at least understand some of his actions. Alcohol isn't an excuse, it is a sensible decision that he did. Many people with trauma know how to cope without drugs nicotine or alcohol, thus this is just a stupid excuse
2024-09-06 14:18
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You're actually wrong about people with trauma coping without drugs. Drugs and promiscuity are a getaway for a majority of people with childhood trauma. They do this because they don't want to look into the problem and confront their demons. And processing trauma is much harder for men. Most men drop out of therapy after starting, because they find it hard to self reflect.
2024-09-06 14:32
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Professional help is just one of the examples of how you can get better. I have never done drugs myself(even weed), so I wouldn't know how it feels, however drugs do not make the situation better, it only makes things worse. It is possible to get better without falling into the loop of constant drug usage. While I agree that for men it is more difficult(on average) than for women, it is still a pathetic excuse to just blame it on drugs or alcohol. If you wouldn't do those in the first place, the action that was performed likely wouldn't have happened at the first place. If I got absolutely shitfaced, and went to drive under the influence, and fatally hit a person, I can just blame it on drugs or alhocol? No, this was my decision to drive under the influence regardless of my mind/physical state. Maniac is rightfully blamed, and he should be criticized for it
2024-09-06 14:39
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I'm not even defending him and I am totally repulsed by his behaviour. What he did can't be excused and he should take full responsibility for his actions. My reply basically was about alcohol and substance abuse being a symptom of an underlying problem. People basically use alcohol and drugs to cover what they feel on the inside. For temporary escape. Overcoming it isn't as easy as telling someone to go for therapy. The fact that Maniac is a psychologist, should tell you something. I lost a close cousin to suicide in 2022. He was struggling with alcohol and marijuana abuse and he did it four days after I'd talked him into agreeing to go for therapy. He went for his first session and then went home and killed himself the next morning. My point is confronting reality is much harder for some people and you can't tell how broken someone is on the inside. And the sad part is that hurt people end up hurting other people.
2024-09-06 15:24
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If what you are saying is true about your cousin, I'm genuinely sorry that this happened. cannot imagine this happening to either myself or any my relatives. "My reply basically was about alcohol and substance abuse being a symptom of an underlying problem", if this is your point, then I can agree. Many people do hide things under usage of substances, however my point is just because you have some sort of a problem, it doesn't give you a right to treat people like shit, or do what maniac did
2024-09-06 15:43
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I wouldn't lie about losing someone to suicide because of alcohol & substance abuse. I also agree that Maniac doesn't get a leeway for what he did, just because he has a problem with alcohol or childhood trauma. I'm heavy on accountability and he should seek help and do the inner work required for his healing so that he stops being a danger to humanity. Admitting he has a problem is a good start. Hopefully he walks the talk and does what is best for himself.
2024-09-06 15:57
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People can lie on the internet, so many things that are said on the internet I take with a grain of salt. Either way, I'm sorry that this happened. Otherwise I will agree with the latter part of your post
2024-09-06 15:59
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I don't have anything to add, but that's a banger of a conversation that wouldn't be expected to be upheld on HLTV. so good job, the two of you
2024-09-06 17:40
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occasionally people on this website can hold proper conversations
2024-09-06 18:05
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#533
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Freezak
It doesn't give you any right to treat other people bad. I'm just wondering what you think about how people live, function and think in general. In my opinion, we're unfortunately not as intelligent as we think we are, our childhood is such an important thing in our lives, it sometimes literally defines the rest of our lives and there's little you can do about it. Some have tried almost everything, they've gone to therapies, earned fame and money and yet these things couldn't stop them from commiting suicide. Most of them have never done things like SA, but my point still stands. It's always worth trying to be better though, a therapy is sometimes the only thing someone needs, sometimes it will never work.
2024-09-09 01:23
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#419
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
So you have never done drugs, but you somehow claim to know that they make everything worse.
2024-09-07 06:43
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Germany Sol1taire
he's at least facing it - most hltv commenters have childhood trauma and unresolved issues that they suppress using cs2 and video-games as a band-aid. Eventually it will come out
2024-09-06 15:29
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I think this is the best response. Sure, nothing can excuse unacceptable actions but some people out there who had a perfect life dont realise how fucked your life could be because of events in your childhood, it is always easy to judge and say "just get over it like a man" but its never that easy
2024-09-06 15:44
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I suffered HORRIBLE childhood trauma. The kind they make movies about. Been in boys homes, foster homes, juvie halls, etc etc. Not only that, I fought in 2 tours in the Army. You don't see me out here drinking and slipping a finger in sleeping women.
2024-09-06 15:46
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#255
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
roman | 
Portugal MUTIRIS_VAC_SHOT
Well you should see my comment is not about justifying Maniac's actions or even regarding them as a direct consquence of potential trauma, or that his substance abuse is justified; simply that trauma is a more complex topic than "just get rid of it".
2024-09-06 15:56
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Brazil MrLucas
I agree with almost everything, but I do believe humans can change with enough effort and time, so as long as he pays for his crimes and put in the effort to become a better person I wouldn't think it's wrong for companies to hire him after a few years.
2024-09-06 16:30
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Im on board with your opinion. If he can show that he has changed, then I wouldn't mind him getting back. However, companies might be very resultant to hiring someone who SA women
2024-09-06 16:31
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that is no excuses, thats explenation
2024-09-06 17:09
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That's an excuse, nobody needs an explanations, we already know what happened
2024-09-06 19:34
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Do we? Im not sure i had maniac's point of view before he gave it
2024-09-07 11:42
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every culprit ever : its not my fault, i was (a) drunk, (b) childhood trauma, (c) both.
2024-09-07 14:40
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dont remember the part where he said its not his fault..... thats the difference between excuses and explanations u try to find excuses when u dont want to be guilty u try to explain urself when u admit u are wrong, dont want necessarly people to excuse u but to understand how that could have happened, because there is a reason for everything in life at no moment that means its not his fault
2024-09-07 16:08
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thing is that alcohol and childhood trauma are excuses
2024-09-07 19:27
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no its not pretty sure he admits he is guilty and doesnt try to find himself innocent pretty sure he admited he was a horrible personn and what he did was unforgivable pretty sure he chose himself to step back from epl s20 casting not like he was denying, and using his childhood and alcohol to make him innocent, if so he would have said "its not my fault" he would have said "guys everyone makes mistakes thats not that bad can i comeback like nothing ever happened?"
2024-09-08 13:22
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> pretty sure he admits he is guilty and doesnt try to find himself innocent > pretty sure he admited he was a horrible personn and what he did was unforgivable excuses cuz he knows he is done at this point
2024-09-08 20:00
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exactly, why would u even want to find excuses if u know u are already done XD, thats the stupidest thing to do at this moment u want to find explanatiuons, not excuses
2024-09-09 14:15
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Based ramz1k_boss :)
2024-09-06 19:33
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Feel like this is a go to for people who get caught doing scummy stuff
2024-09-06 13:56
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Dunno, I don't think I've heard anyone else accused of sexual harassment blame it on alcohol addiction
2024-09-06 19:16
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pretty logical it would seem
2024-09-07 11:09
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Germany Gabbah
Alcohol sadly can do that. Good that he will take a step back from the internet and the community. Dont overly like how the response is worded, but only time will tell if it is genuine or not. I hope it is tho.
2024-09-06 13:56
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Alcohol just removes the limitations people put on themselves to function in a society. I've seen enough drunk people behave like normal human beings and not chase women for hours at an event after being told no. Not everyone is an asshole trying to hide it
2024-09-06 14:07
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Germany Gabbah
doesnt mean people are bad people just because alcohol removes their self inflicted limitations. Intrusive thoughts as a concept exists. Ofc doesnt excuse behaving like an asshole but saying he is a bad person just because he needs to limit himself feels disingenuous. You can hold people accountable for their actions but not for the "could be"
2024-09-06 14:10
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It's crazy how you're still trying to use alcohol to defend subhuman behavior. Alcohol doesn't say "go grope a girl at a party", that's the human, just because you stop yourself from being a weirdo without alcohol doesn't mean you aren't a weirdo. If you have these thoughts while sober you're not a normal person and should be seeking help
2024-09-06 14:39
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Romania B3ck3e3
You realise that u do not get to chose how u r born, lots of people can turn into psychopaths or sociopaths if there is a trigger, so if he is doing this when he drinks, he can in fact blame the alcohol. Like, no defending him, but if u suffer from any kind of trauma and alcohol shows this and makes u lose control, do not, by any means, drink around people, especially women. But again, coming back to ur statement, u can 100% blame the alcohol here, it does not excuse the behaviour, but it is a reason.
2024-09-06 14:50
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"If you have these thoughts while sober you're not a normal person and should be seeking help" As a sufferer from a mental illness where you literally cannot control what you think by no fault of your own, I agree with the seeking help statement. I should digress however, you can still be considered a "normal" person with these thoughts, it's how you choose to act on said thoughts which defines you as a human being. I wish it was as simple as you entail, but sadly that is not the case for every human being out there.
2024-09-06 14:59
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Germany Gabbah
Jonty my man spitting facts once again
2024-09-06 15:12
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Well I've explained intrusive thoughts and OCD on a few occasions but when it comes to the misconception that simply thinking bad thoughts means that you aren't deemed "normal" or are a "bad person", then that is something that I feel like I need to address. Don't get me wrong, it's not like said people who are suffering with said illness are all in the same boat as me, it's just not all that accurate to make the claim that it is either.
2024-09-06 15:22
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Germany Gabbah
as a person suffering from intrusive thoughts, I am absolutly with you
2024-09-06 15:23
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#511
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
People don't try to empathize with, or understand, things they haven't experienced (or can't). It's human nature to ask, "why would someone do X thing I wouldn't do?" But it's not always that straight-forward. I haven't experienced any of these things, but I have close friends and family who have, and so I am receptive to the notion that people don't always have control over their thoughts. That said, most rational people (but not all, because mental illness can be incredibly severe) have the ability to understand their actions and weigh them on a scale. Humans are complicated, and while I don't condone the actions of Maniac, I am empathetic to him (if he was being honest). Being aware of your actions and their consequences at the very least means that he was cognizant of his choices, to whatever degree that may have been. But, I don't know him, I could be wrong.
2024-09-07 23:45
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Yeah, we think with the same applied logic. I can't condone what Maniac (or any other individual of unsound mind) has done, but I guess I can't really help but to empathise with him given I too have been in a similar or even worse mental state before. The difference is I'm obviously not an alcohol drinker or a promiscuous person, but I too have my demons that escape sometimes and when you feel that low? It's incredibly difficult to pull yourself out of that hole without support, especially if it feels like your own mind is against you. At times like these? It's perfectly understandable to turn to drugs or the bottle because, at that point, you feel like you couldn't possibly feel any worse than you already do; and in Maniac's case, it was alcohol and frivolous acts of infidelity. As you pointed out, because of Maniac's actions, we now condemn him despite being empathetic of his situation, but not everybody in the world will see it in that same light, as we're all different after all. In addition to that, others will see it as he knew what he was doing at that time, consciously chose to make a decision to victimise another person and therefore requires zero sympathy or empathy, but my mind does not think like that, unfortunately. People like to paint the concept as a black and white ordeal, and sometimes it is, and sometimes you feel like there has to be a reason—like a morbid curiosity takes over—then you start to empathise with the situation. I can't relate to SA or anything like that but I can definitely relate to feeling like your entire world is ending, so I hope Maniac is genuine in his sorrow and I hope he will learn from the dismay caused.
2024-09-08 01:32
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#205
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Germany Gabbah
so in your eyes if I think about killing someone but dont actually do it because I have morals that makes me a bad person?
2024-09-06 15:11
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#282
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Brazil MrLucas
I mean how old is he? At this point he must have known what he is like when drunk and yet, seemingly he chose to drink in such parties time and time again. I don't think you can blame anything on the alcohol in this case, it's like driving after drinking if not worse
2024-09-06 16:34
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#283
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Germany Gabbah
Giving a reason for smth and using it as an excuse are two different things. Reason why I didnt like how it was worded. I think its fine to say "hey the alcohol was what lead to this happening, but I still take responsibility for my actions and will make sure it wont ever again." Excusing it BECAUSE you where drunk is not fine whatsoever tho
2024-09-06 16:39
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#312
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Brazil MrLucas
The thing is, the way it's worded it's as if alcohol being involved is some sort of mitigating factor, as if he was saying "I did this disgusting acts not because I'm a bad person, but because of the alcohol" or "I only did that because of alcohol, I'm not actually that kind of person", when in fact, based on number of times it seemingly happened, he was constantly putting himself on his own will in the same situations.
2024-09-06 17:54
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#314
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Germany Gabbah
I mean I agree with with on that part. Reason why I said I didnt like how he worded it
2024-09-06 17:55
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#315
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Brazil MrLucas
Fair enough
2024-09-06 17:56
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If you mix alcohol and drug medication you can end in situations were you really aren't yourself, act like you normally never would (drug adddicts often are in this condition many times). Seen this in my work. He deserve second chance, otherwise he might end in ccriminal career if he see no other choice. Every s*x criminal should get 2nd chance (out of prisons), and other criminals, world would be better place, look norway, they work like that and prisons are 5 star hotels, only ~20% do crimes again, lowest rate in the world Lets welcome Maniac back to analyst job in events
2024-09-06 21:09
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but if alcohol does that to you, you shouldnt drink
2024-09-09 09:58
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#571
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Germany Gabbah
absolutly. like I said it can be an explanation but never an excuse. he worded his "appology" very poorly
2024-09-09 12:40
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#28
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North America TyIer
bruh
2024-09-06 13:58
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#29
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China huxishox
Nothing to do with alcohol. A good person wont do this no matter how much he drinks.
2024-09-06 13:58
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#151
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Brazil _Meehiell
have you ever drink? i m a such a good person when i m sober, ppl talk how im always smiling and praise how i m kind im with other persons. When i drink, all this change, i got arrogance vibes, i lost my sense of meaning and once, i did the same as maniac. I stop using any kind of alcohol after this type of episode, this substance is HELL in a life. Boys, if u are like me and maniac, that have childhood trauma (i was abused when i was young, my parents got divorced later and all this affect me as hell) STOP DRINKING alcohool. You will turn in to a monster soon or later, and you will be come lonely. Lucky me that got friend and gf that warns me soon enough to stop.
2024-09-06 14:43
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Yea me and my friends have a big meal like every 2 weeks, sometimes we do really want sex after drinking. Yea we might be more excited and open, but if the girls show no interest we will stop. and if you know you will be totally different after drinking, you need to control yourself bro. It is not the first time to you, same to maniac. Dont drink that much
2024-09-06 14:52
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#180
Faceit level 10  | 
Xyp9x | 
Australia killinxs
drinking only lowers your threshold of impulses. you dont think about what you do under influence. when your sober you process what you want to say what you want do, you dont do that when your drunk, you fully give in to your impulses. when you drink you do the first thing that comes to mind without control. drunken words are a sober thoughts. when your drunk you do whats true to your OWN instincts and what you actually think, when sober your conscience holds your true self back
2024-09-06 14:52
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#333
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United States peter2kk
I actually disagree, even though your sentiment seems to match that of many others across the forum discussing something like this. In these scenarios, "pretty much everyone has intrusive thoughts now and then." So, while for bad people I would agree with you, it merely lets down their "mask", as it is much harder to control your persona and how you wish people to see you when you can barely control yourself, the average person who is not necessarily a bad person by any means can still find themselves doing bad things under the right circumstances. Everyone has these intrusive thoughts, and what makes us human is that we have them and control them. But like you said, it is your mind without control when under the influence of alcohol. For younger kids that get drunk, maybe break their leg trying to jump off a building, as their mind's ability to inhibit something so stupid is gone. Their need to experience new things as teenagers and do something generally stupid things is all there, no holds barred. An old drunkard who has gambled regularly may spend his whole savings on the slot machine on an especially terrible night of drinking. And similarly, perhaps a lonely, or high libido, or low self-esteem, middle-aged man be far more likely do find himself unable to control himself and do something akin to what Maniac did. I think the real critique should be towards the fact that he did this once and obviously did little to not put himself in such a situation again. He knew at that point that he could not control himself, and that in doing so had made a woman uncomfortable. In knowing this, he still found himself in situations where he drank and allowed himself to be sedated and continue to harass women. The problem lies in his inability to abstain after having detected the problem. I think in just making people uncomfortable he falls under what I just described. I think had he sexually assaulted someone severely then I would have agreed with you, that all that happened when he drank was that his "mask" dropped.
2024-09-06 18:45
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#399
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
COCAINE | 
Uruguay RamzeYC9
lmao i used cocaine , alcohol and weed combined for like years and years and never become a retarded for being drunk ( combined with cocaine that is worst inclusive ) the same person being drunk and on drugs , than when im sober.
2024-09-07 00:04
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Tell that to all of the recovering alcoholics from AA who drank their sorrows, miseries and trauma away. I agree that not everybody's case is going to be the same but as an intoxicant, it can make people do regrettable things, that's for certain.
2024-09-06 14:55
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Yea I agree, but there is a line right. I meant if you know when you drink too much you can not control yourself, you will be completely different, so why do you drink that much. It is not the first time to drink for maniac, he needs to know where the line is. It is like if I can not control myself after 2 cups, I am not gonna drink the 3rd cup. If you know that and you keep drinking, then you blame on alcohol after bad things happen, does it make sense.
2024-09-06 15:01
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I absolutely agree - that alone is on Maniac and his lack of self-control, and you can see where that led him - I'm not defending his actions or his use of alcohol at all. My statement was to imply that there is a moral and genuine reason to blame alcohol because it removes the barrier as an intoxicant; it can and probably will make you do regrettable things and no matter how good you are, there is obviously a chance that there may be consequences depending on how much of it you consume. It all comes down to self-control and if Maniac was an alcoholic that used alcohol as a coping method for deeper routed trauma, then that explains why he lost all control when he drank the stuff; therefore that is on his head completely for putting other people at risk knowing that.
2024-09-06 15:08
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EXACTLY 😉👌 cheapass excuse haha
2024-09-06 17:27
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You do lots of shit when you're drunk bro When you pass some point, you can do / say terrible stuff that just doesn't reflect who you are Alcohol is definitely one of the worst drugs you can fall in
2024-09-06 19:18
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This situation is sad and tragic for literally everyone.
2024-09-06 13:58
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Neither are an excuse. 34 years old, go to therapy instead of assaulting people.
2024-09-06 14:01
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shameful
2024-09-06 13:59
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#444
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Germany Sol1taire
You feel you have the moral high ground as a hltv.user to say that
2024-09-07 11:55
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#37
Faceit level 4  | 
vanessa | 
Bhutan zyl3r
very very sad considered how accurate and passionate he was as an analyst i highly doubt we will see him again, like thorin, sadokist (excluded football club) cya
2024-09-06 13:59
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#302
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany davidthek1ng
what did Thorin do?
2024-09-06 17:27
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Accumulation of trash talk I guess
2024-09-06 19:19
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Got assaulted by kngv (or I wish he did xd)
2024-09-06 19:36
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Thorin is good but comparing him to sadokist, potentially the greatest caster in any esport (at least potential to be), and maniac the GOAT analyst of cs is a bit crazy.
2024-09-06 21:08
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wtf!?
2024-09-06 13:59
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#43
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
There was absolutely no need for this second statement, not a single need. The first statement was well put and it should've been left at that with nothing more to add on top of that. Mentioning your alcohol and childhood was totally unnecessary. I do hope that it all sorts out alright for ya if you haven't really done much of anything wrong and if this whole situation was exaggerated.
2024-09-06 14:01
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Understand that this man probably lost his career within 2 days and is now full panic mode trying to somehow explain his situation, that doesn't justify it but it's to beexpected
2024-09-06 14:16
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#127
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France HippzZ
It was unnecessary for you but probably some people want/deserve to know the reasons that could lead to what happen Anyway we can't even know if he is genuine so my take is you should not care too much
2024-09-06 14:30
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#214
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
No one needs to know these personal details regarding childhood or alcohol, not a single one of us! And any old enough person with brains should understand that. Anything that is going to be said after the original statement was made could always back fire and make things even worse that they already were hence the reason it was in his best interest to leave it as is after yesterday's statement and its totally fine not to make his fans/supporters aware of those additional details regarding alcohol, childhood etc, its totally unnecessary and actual fans should always say the same thing if they care bout him, the less you say - the better it might turn out for you in these kind of situations in the end. Its understandable he's trying to be nice and all to show his care and all that, but its not needed at this particular time, he needed to dissapear for a bit, see how things panned out, unfolded,, access the situation and maybe later say more stuff that he said in the second statement. He's rushed a bit here, so i hope there wont be a trird statement. All in all his career is not over, 99% sure of it, he will almost certainly be back to casting and do an even better job at it once he returns after having this terrible situation out of the way.
2024-09-06 15:17
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I'm pretty sure his career is over though
2024-09-06 19:20
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#421
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Nah, he’ll be fine after a few weeks :)
2024-09-07 08:24
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This sucks man... I really hope that the sexually assaulted women get well soon and recover from that situation and Maniac also seeks help and becomes a better person...
2024-09-06 14:04
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Admitting there's a problem is a huge step! I do not think it's a fair interpretation of this that he blames the alcohol, I took it more that he blames him self, the way he deals with things and his relationship with alcohol. I think center of this roughly written piece is still him, not the alcohol. I wish him all the strength in figuring this out and coming out stronger at the other end, I am sure his qualities will allow him another chance. But only if he resolves his problems and learns to love him self. I always found it weird that a lot of people need to prove something in order to love them selves, shows deep insecurities. To be King you don't need a castle
2024-09-06 14:05
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W take
2024-09-06 14:11
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#90
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Norway Xaitzberg
Found the adult
2024-09-06 14:18
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You are my king n0quart3r
2024-09-06 14:22
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#136
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France HippzZ
Well said
2024-09-06 14:33
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+1 This is of Maniac's own doing and hope he gets the help and support that he needs in order to move forward.
2024-09-06 14:36
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#163
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India Nijer
"Apologising" and mentioning he has had personal problems in same post is just an attempt to gain sympathy after harrassing dozens of people, if it only would have hannah coming out., people like him and you would have let him getaway with this bullshit without any consequences, it's insane he has been doing this for 2 years and none of the colleagues of his didn't notice any strange behavior
2024-09-06 14:45
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I am not sure what kind of a leap you've made to even suggest that I have been enabling this kind of behavior from Maniac but am sure you need as much help as he does.
2024-09-06 14:54
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#198
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India Nijer
When maniac says something "it's not fair to interpret as blame on alcohol" When those women call out him out "why take the word of a nobody" When it's like billion people came out as witnesses
2024-09-06 15:08
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I did not say that to just something Maniac said, I have read his roughly written statement but when I came here I was quite surprised to see that HLTV writers interpreted that quite different than I did. I even went back to read it again and had to squint real hard to filter the message that way. And when you quote me, at least copy/paste the text - "I do not think it's a fair interpretation of this that he blames the alcohol" and I stand by my interpretation of what Maniac said. He blames him self, the only blame on alcohol was that "it reveals his problems". Note that he didn't say that alcohol makes him do things or something along those lines, it just reveals those problems HE HAS even without alcohol. That's how I read it at least, I think headline from HLTV is a bit rough but I kind of understand that they have to write about it in a negative way. The way Maniac wrote this, I am more hopeful for his future after reading it.
2024-09-06 15:16
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#247
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India Nijer
First he says that the first women who came out lied and now he takes half assed responsibility after he sees there is no way our of this, talks more about himself than the people who were affected by his actions in his "apology" The way maniac wrote this, this is textbook Sexual predator behavior imo I do hope he gets the help and we never see him in this scene again
2024-09-06 15:48
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you sound like you've read a lot of textbooks about sexual predators
2024-09-06 15:53
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#335
Faceit level 5  | 
rain | 
Vietnam DrParadox
I'm sorry but the very first tweet he admitted to making sexual advances. Quit projecting bro. He would do that in person if he wanted to talk to the victim, to say sorry. Saying sorry via Twitter only just shows how shallow you are.
2024-09-06 18:50
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#60
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Finland niilo_22
LOL
2024-09-06 14:06
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#64
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal Faydeeeee
I wish people would post whatever they think is the full story up front. he KNEW it happened, he KNEW other people might have seen it too. But they never say it up front, they never fully apologize... Hell, who knows if one of the victims wouldn't be more close to accepting his apologies if he said this in the first place... Now, it's a bit too late and it's more likely that everyone sees this as just an excuse, to make things not look as bad.
2024-09-06 14:07
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#336
Faceit level 5  | 
rain | 
Vietnam DrParadox
We didn't know if he said sorry to the victim or not. He admitted that he made sexual advances first and foremost.
2024-09-06 18:51
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#386
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal Faydeeeee
sry if I didnt word it clearly, I'm not talking about whether he said sorry personally or not, I'm talking about the fact he could've said all this first and not only after more and more accusations come through
2024-09-06 21:32
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#70
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
Feel you bro
2024-09-06 14:09
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#74
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United Kingdom Leftie
Career in tatters, no one will have him back, can't have people with that past in events with a large audience of < 18, as Mr Beast recently found out
2024-09-06 14:11
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#75
Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
Switzerland PepperonCini
sad and embarrassing
2024-09-06 14:12
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#78
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Serbia bra1np
Alchohol is so bad, yall should get away from it
2024-09-06 14:14
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The dude didn't even apologize.
2024-09-06 14:14
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#80
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Czech Republic imik
Yep he's cooked.
2024-09-06 14:14
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#93
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Brazil Lolove
When you do a lot of crap, the right thing isnt to give excuses, it is to admit, say youre sorry and move on to become better in that regard
2024-09-06 14:20
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#112
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Croatia Pagan44
rip
2024-09-06 14:25
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#120
Faceit level 10  | 
United Kingdom kennyvenom
For anyone in any doubt. Imagine you have a daughter and she is telling some man repeatedly "no" and this creep thinks she's playing hard to get and aggressively pursues. He is lucky it's just the end of his CS career.
2024-09-06 14:28
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#382
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Belgium TomorrowLandOfficial
I mean... maniac's cs career was over 8 years ago, and for a reason. Being on the desk and talking random stuff just because ppl gave you the opportunity to make some "retirement" money doesn't make it a "career". It's just milking the cow as long as u possibly can so you don't have to 9-5.
2024-09-06 21:20
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#123
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Latvia splxnt3r
I know for a fact some people who become inadequately agressive because of alcohol, so not even surprised that he is behaving like that when drunk
2024-09-06 14:29
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#125
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada kinley377
RIP
2024-09-06 14:30
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Rip
2024-09-06 14:30
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Thank you once again for going through the trouble of publishing this, @Striker - This is not an easy subject to make articles on. I'm glad Maniac responded to the complaints and admitted faults where there are clearly faults, no lies or double-standards. RIP the career of Maniac, time to make amends for your actions.
2024-09-06 14:41
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#148
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France HippzZ
I just hope he was totally genuine when he wrote this He lost his career but he has the opportunity to become a better person
2024-09-06 14:37
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He has no reason not to be genuine about this, his career and reputation is over and you could tell he was genuinely passionate about CS and the business when on the desk. I've seen many times alcohol turn genuine people into monsters and I can definitely see an image of Maniac falling victim to that. All he can do now is get help, make amends and try to become a better person - It is never too late to comeback from mistakes, it's just whether or not others are willing to look past them and accept you for that.
2024-09-06 14:47
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#532
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Freezak
You're trying to talk sense into people who don't know a thing about what you're talking about - though his career is over and he shouldn't be coming back here under any circumstances. Wishing him a speedy recovery either way.
2024-09-09 01:13
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He really turned out to be a maniac. True to his name
2024-09-06 14:33
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good that you apologize and all but you can't blame your childhood when you've been an adult for 16 years
2024-09-06 14:36
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I’m torn. Maniac was my favorite analyst. This is as bad as when I found out my childhood idol Vince McMahon was a monster
2024-09-06 14:41
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Thats why alchol (and other control effecting things) among the 7 great sin. He lost his jop and his prestige
2024-09-06 14:44
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#401
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Freezak
It's extremely ironic how alcohol ban is often (not always) present in countries where women's rights are non-existent - though i do agree that alcohol is extremely bad and the world would be better off without it.
2024-09-07 00:30
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Turkey isnt one. I dont care about arabs
2024-09-07 15:18
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#164
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Brazil _Meehiell
I cant simpatize with maniac, even he acting like me when i was younger. i m a such a good person when i m sober, ppl talk how im always smiling and praise how i m kind im with other persons. When i drink, all this change, i got arrogance vibes, i lost my sense of meaning and once, i did the same as maniac. I stop using any kind of alcohol after this type of episode, this substance is HELL in a life. Boys, if u are like me and maniac, that have childhood trauma (i was abused when i was young, my parents got divorced later and all this affect me as hell) STOP DRINKING alcohool. You will turn in to a monster soon or later, and you will be come lonely. Lucky me that got friend and gf that warns me soon enough to stop.
2024-09-06 14:45
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That's a touching story and I'm elated that you found happiness in life, my friend. <3
2024-09-06 14:49
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#168
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Brazil flytw4tp
thats why i always trust the victim until proven otherwise
2024-09-06 14:47
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#178
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Czech Republic Jouda
F
2024-09-06 14:51
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#183
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil mth^
that's crazy and sad, the image i had from him is totally different, ive always looked to him and saw a good guy, chill persona, and very collected. A bit disappointed on this one, and not sure what to think of it, everyone has their good and bad, but this is really serious. Anyway, im not here to judge, i hope he can find his self and I wish everyone affect by this full mental recovery :(
2024-09-06 14:54
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#193
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Poland BAN_ANIME
kids, avoid alcohol
2024-09-06 15:03
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#203
Faceit level 6  | 
sk0R | 
United Kingdom Bob0_s
If you're offsetting the blame onto something as an excuse, it's not an apology.
2024-09-06 15:10
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#337
Faceit level 5  | 
rain | 
Vietnam DrParadox
Here's a tip. Apologizing publicly on Twitter isn't going to make it genuine. Also he blames himself for letting alcohol control him.
2024-09-06 18:55
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According to Liquidpedia, Maniac's got "a master's degree in Institutional and Organizational Psychology". Aren't psychologists forced to go through therapy as part of their studies? Apparently it didn't help...
2024-09-06 15:14
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He planned to become what essentially made him unstable in hope of gaining stabilisation. The moment he took that alcohol and knew that he can loss control, he screwed up, big time.
2024-09-06 15:21
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hes far from a real psychologist, he has a mba or something.....
2024-09-06 17:26
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everyone deserves a second chance (most of the times) I hope he learns from it and becomes a better person, good luck for him. Be careful with alcohol everyone
2024-09-06 15:16
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Digging his own grave at this point...
2024-09-06 15:19
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Seems genuine
2024-09-06 15:29
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You grow up around family and friends and you will be taught or forced to endure certain things. But you yourself make the difference in deciding which path to choose. So if your path is groping women while being drunk, that's an ideological and fundamental problem If your innermost desire is to be intimate with everyone around you no matter the consent, that's fundamentally wrong and needs to be addressed and changed on his part.. But he also must understand in this kind of setting, there is no redemption to be had. Redemption is him being back on the desk or in another successful position in life while having fundamentally changed and earned back trust. And trust is near impossible to restore when you violate other people's personal space on repeat over years, gotten yourself removed from venues, the whole shebang. If it doesn't make click after the first time forget getting any goodwill.
2024-09-06 15:31
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+1 As they say “once you start something there is no going back” Sure you had a rough childhood (like most people do) sure you weren’t fully conscious (considering he was under alcohol influence) but he was still conscious and did all those things while being aware of its possible consequences so there is no excuse We human beings go through alot of things, do a lot of things and even think about doing a lot of wicked things that makes us doubt our whole morals but in the end its still up us whether we wanna do them or not. Alcohol,drugs and etc are just materials that might distract you, its actually you who takes the last decision
2024-09-06 23:42
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RIP best analyst in the scene No Place for behavior like this
2024-09-06 15:40
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What can he do to be back at the desk now?
2024-09-06 15:52
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i dont think he will ever come back, if the girls involved in his SA weren't directly involved with Esports (just random girls that happened to be there) i would say there was a chance he could come back after at least 6-12 months... but since at least 5 of the 7 people that came forward are either free lance talent/media for Esports/Counterstrike, and some directly esl/blast/pgl employees, i dont think TO's will allow him to be in the same room as them... one of the incidents was literally in a backstage hallway during an event. also this could be fake news but i think one of the 5 or 6 girls that went anonymous might be someone like freya, sjokz, tech girl, etc..., cuz they said they were like frequently on screen and did many tournaments with him given his problem is physically being there... he might work online tournaments but its a bad look for organizations hiring people like him... sucks too for the talent, now were gunna have like pimp or bubzkji or any other bad analyst every tournament... moses should take his place, freya/stunna, moses, ynk aint a bad desk
2024-09-06 20:55
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#383
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland GOD999999
Probably nothing, PR is very important to all media companies
2024-09-06 21:23
2
Entirely expected. Dude is VERY passive aggressive. Usually passive aggressive dudes are the same way when it comes to sexual stuff. This was not a shocker for me, it was only a matter of time.
2024-09-06 15:44
5
I can only hope these are not fibs, but, to his credits, he didn't get all lawyer-y. Which means this massage come from him and him alone. He's not excusing his actions, he's admitting fault, and I sincerely hope he finds the help he needs. For the ladies in this case, i hope they also get any help they need, it will be easier now that he isnt around them at events anymore, but still must leave lingering thoughts. For me, my only question is why, why was this not outted earlier? Fear is one thing, but so many people saw, theres very likely video evidence of a small portion of this, how did not a single person speak out immediately? Whether speaking out is going to maniac and having a private discussion behind closed doors, making a police report, or making it public like they did if they cant get ahold of him IRL. From all these comments and statements made over the last few days, it seems to me no one talked to him before making things public, they never asked him to atone for his mistakes in private. Perhaps some had tried over the years and the message just never got across. I'm sad, because we lose a person of passion, someone extremely passionate about esports and CS. I hope that void is filled with new talents, talents who deserve their chance at being hired for at least the smaller IEM and blast group events. Seeing the same anaysts and casters every event with no one new is disheartning, because there are so many hard working individuals in the tier 2 space that have waited for years for any opportunity. Blast allowed Scrawny and Launders to show their craft to the biggest audiences during covid, allowing them to become mainstay casters and eventually cast a major grand final. I implore the 2025 event TOs to do the same, to look deep in the scene and go hire talents that have been waiting in the wings for any chance they could get, like the Jay and Dweg casting duo for example. If there's a lesson to be learned here, is to own up to mistakes, and do what ever you can in your power to rectify them. If you have demon, identify, and expulse them. If you've done something wrong, and a genuine apology doesnt fix what you've done, the best thing you can do is fix yourself, to make sure it doesnt happen again. In my eyes, and I'm sure in the eyes of the majority, fixing yourself when you're in the wrong so you never do something similar again is the ultimate apology to those affected.
2024-09-06 15:52
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#274
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Other FGsouL
If you have bad personality,alcohol will boost your ugly behaviours. Stay away from alcohol kids.
2024-09-06 16:17
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2 replies
Embrace your inner self. Drink beers and spirits, get shitfaced and unleash your true selves kids.
2024-09-06 16:48
2
1 reply
Hahahaha
2024-09-09 03:30
0
It's a start. It's a start to bring light to a problematic issue. It's a start to allow those involved to begin healing. It's a start to realize that no means no.
2024-09-06 16:22
3
As long as he didn't go further into commiting rapes, abuses or unthinkable things, I'm fine with him getting a second chance unless he does nothing to make amend or get better mentally. One way would be to stop drinking if you know you're a complete waste of a human being. One of my grandfathers was a pure demon when he was drunk, no one wanted to be around him and people actually rejoyced when he finally died from cancer. You don't want to be that guy...
2024-09-06 16:29
2
Good job on Maniac, it will be a long journey for him but if he (ever) comes back he will be stronger. Now hopefully everyone can rest, but for me it feels still strange that no one ever talked to him about this, it can't be noticed by anyone and just doing nothing.
2024-09-06 16:31
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#284
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Finland sway777
Respect for admitting his problems. Shame. He was a great analyst.
2024-09-06 16:41
1
1 reply
The best of them all I would even say. He needs to come back, everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
2024-09-09 03:33
1
YIKES bro. It wasn't the alcohol that made him SA those women. Hope he gets therapy and stays out of the scene
2024-09-06 16:47
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#534
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
yes it was, he said it himself. it was the alcohol and his childhood that made him do it case closed
2024-09-09 02:20
1
#289
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Europe 0only1
I am really sorry to hear that. Stay strong man, everyone has the right to fall but you are obliged to stand again. Best of luck in your life and get well.
2024-09-06 16:50
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1 reply
I fully agree with you.
2024-09-09 03:06
1
I'm sorry for him, but that are excuses. he is 34 so Alcol or not he know what is doing , I'm ex alcoholic I know what going on when u out of mind. Now demonstrate if girls were consensual or not
2024-09-06 16:55
1
Striker showing character by doing these articles himself. Respect.
2024-09-06 17:00
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1 reply
Y? Is he a friend of Maniac or something?
2024-09-07 01:34
1
:/ he deserves everything that is going to happen to him going forward hope to see him again some day Mr Maniac but get help and good riddance for the time being
2024-09-06 17:10
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#299
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Colombia PedMar
This is when people should be cancelled. There's absolutely no reason to justify why someone does what he/she does and he shouldn't play the victim and blame his childhood, lol. If he can control his drinking problems when he is getting paid thousand of dollars to be on stage, he could do the same at a party.
2024-09-06 17:24
1
I love it when grown up individuals fail to take responsibility and blame either alcohol or their childhood instead.
2024-09-06 17:55
5
There's a lot to unpack in this statement but the victim card stands out for me. SA is a very intentional act and you can't blame it on alcohol or a rough childhood. There's literal no excuse for SA. I could be wrong but I bet he's done it for much longer and to many more vulnerable women than we know. I wouldn't even trust him as a psychologist because vulnerable women aren't safe around him. Arko's wife might be a victim too and she should get herself and her daughters far away from him.
2024-09-06 17:59
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#322
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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France Amamiya
Alright, hope he never shows his face in the scene ever again. That's some high level degeneracy.
2024-09-06 18:07
0
I wonder where all the keyboard warriors went, who accused the victims of wanting attention or whatever. You are the reason people (especially women) seldom come out with a story like that. I hope the CS community as a whole learns from that. (a man can have a dream, right?).
2024-09-06 18:20
4
Talk about being forced to come out with this statement and still not taking real responsibility and trying to divert the issue and blame alcohol its so lame
2024-09-06 18:19
2
This apology after initial response is absolutely bs. Instead of accepting the fact that you made a mistake, "even I do not accept this version of events as truth", you've tried to condemn but failed and now this...RIP DUDE. never expected this from you.
2024-09-06 18:58
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#340
Faceit level 8  | 
DZ | 
Algeria SilverQuick
Sad bro.
2024-09-06 19:01
1
Took a good initial response and flushed it away. Alcohol doesn't make you grope women unless you already have thoughts and desires to do so when you're sober. Very different from the Maniac we've seen on the desk and the cameras. What a shame.
2024-09-06 19:19
0
Should never come back as a talent
2024-09-06 19:24
0
would've been better if he said nothing...
2024-09-06 20:21
0
Well, time to amend the things he did wrong. Both things he mentioned really just suck. Sometimes you don't learn the basics in your house or family, that's pretty common to detect nowadays (or more than "detect", people are being more open to acknowledge it, therapy being the good instance for it). In a CS related point, it's sad because he was a really good analyst. I liked his job.
2024-09-06 20:37
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#387
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Switzerland hitman1g
It's a shame to see him go like this. Unfortunately, this kind of behavior should not be part of e-sports. I think he should now step back completely and work on himself and his problems. After that, I think everyone deserves a second chance, so I find people's reactions very blatant. As if every one of them is an angel and has never done anything wrong. Let the one who is free from sin throw the first stone.
2024-09-06 21:33
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#388
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Israel Xpicyy
rip
2024-09-06 21:47
0
People who are trying to defend him in any way, you're worse than him. Imagine him doing these things to your sister. Everything you do is in your control. So writting such big lines won't help you get away any further. He got away doing this for years because no one spoke out. Big ups to the ladies who came out and shared their horrible experience. Unfortunately people are hating them and calling them sluts, whores and what not. like tf ? Also i don't think he stepped out of EPL, he was asked to step out else they would have kicked him out. Hence he chose the former and made it seem like he stepped out. If someone is not wrong they will never accept any blame. Anyway, his career is fcked. Hopefully he will change now since he has lost everything. P.s. I am not replying to anyone's justification as idgaf about what you say to make him look good.
2024-09-06 22:11
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Shame... of course the behavior needs addressing, but when it's done publically like this iends a person's career that they worked a lifetime to achieve. I don't agree with this way of "making justice".
2024-09-06 22:29
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Maybe if you've worked a lifetime for something you should be careful to not assault women.
2024-09-08 17:29
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#402
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Freezak
I think people are being unfair to him when they are shitting on him everytime he says anything after the drama. He deservers to be judged, but either way this apology doesn't appear to be not genuine, i can see he's clearly blaming himself, not alcohol or his childhood exclusively, obviously i could be wrong as i'm not sitting inside his head - he appears to be mentioning things that could affect who he is right now, he's aware of his own wrongdoings and while i wouldn't want to see him back in the CS scene i still hope he will recover as a human being and every person affected by his wrongdoings is and will be alright. It's not a whitewash attempt, once again he must be judged for every wrongdoing that actually took place but at the same time i hope that he will recover and be a better person at some point in his life.
2024-09-07 00:38
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#403
Faceit level 7  | 
MaiL09 | 
Sweden Bobbin
hes good analyst i wouldnt mind having him back in cs scene if the girls are comfortable with it eventually
2024-09-07 00:36
1
Relax Maniac, there's no coming back.
2024-09-07 01:26
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#409
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Freezak
Never said he should be making a comeback, quite the opposite actually - learn to read.
2024-09-07 01:42
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#416
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
I actually hope he comes back, because along with YNK he is by far the best analyst in CS and it's not even close! His behaviour was unacceptable that is 100%, but from what I've heard these people could have done a lot more, by just telling him to FUCK OFF and establishing that what he is doing is not right and in Jacky or w/e this guy is defend your girl/wife. I can't believe someone publishes a video where he says he was just a spectator and didn't react whatsoever to some other guy hitting on your WIFE/GIRL?! HELLO?! Either this Jacky guy is abnormal or he is making a mockery, because any normal man would defend his woman and if Maniac behaved like that, would prevent him from continuing such behaviour or would at least report it to security if he wasn't ready to stand up to him. Sometimes you need a slap, and if what I've read is true he needed it that night or just a FRIEND who would set him straight, but as friendly and chumy these casters can seem to us apparently it's not the case and he was left for 3 hours to just go wild? When I read this and try to imagine it, it just doesn't sit with me.. I've been partying for 20+ years and when there is an annoying guy testing limits, hitting on girls who are taken and being a douchebag in general it cannot last for 3 hours, not even 30 minutes, he gets removed. But these people seem to be living in a different world. Imagine some drunk guy is asking your woman to dance, givin' her the looks, touching her and you are like: I WILL REPORT THIS ON TWITTER!.... IN 2 DAYS, but meanwhile I will watch him, remember what he did and do nothing about it.
2024-09-07 05:26
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he's a grown adult lol He's responsible for his actions, others aren't obligated to school him. You just wrote an essay for nothing. I bet you are one of those who were blaming the victim.
2024-09-07 16:22
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#516
Faceit level 6  | 
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Serbia Dinarska_divizija
I agree jacky outed himself as a massive pussy tho
2024-09-08 00:10
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#525
Faceit level 6  | 
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Belgium LaatHetLos
#506, no excuses for his behaviour. Own it and quit the CS scene, Maniac, au revoir!
2024-09-08 11:45
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redemption arc soon
2024-09-07 07:52
0
Gg bluds career is cooked 💀
2024-09-07 09:25
2
Get a therapy man.
2024-09-07 10:14
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#441
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
bye bye
2024-09-07 11:27
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#487
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Sweden multib
Too hastenly and emotionally written. If he'd waited a week instead to let emotions settle and some clarity come back he would realize what he did was not nice, but it's really not the end of the world either. He is writing as if it was first degree murder he committed. Relax dude
2024-09-07 18:46
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#494
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States ROCKY_JAYYY
Broken childhood... a lot of people have messed up childhoods but they don't SA women.... trying to get sympathy
2024-09-07 20:15
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#506
Faceit level 6  | 
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Belgium LaatHetLos
34 years old and those excuses ;-) I'm 32 years old and was a drug addict for 10 months, only 2 months sober: I have never ever treated a woman like that. Please retire and go away from our scene Maniac, bye!
2024-09-07 22:21
10
I forgive you bro, hope you manage to make it back. Until the you'll be missed, take care XOXO
2024-09-08 17:43
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#530
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Germany some_dude
shits no excuse, shit childhood or not lmao
2024-09-08 20:08
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2 replies
excuse or explanation? maybe he got molested as a kid
2024-09-09 02:54
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#575
Faceit level 10  | 
h4rn | 
Bulgaria Sk1Nne
so he needs to molest other people? I don't see your point.
2024-09-10 05:27
2
What an douchebag bro you work everyday you dont know what alcaholism is i suffered years from it i know this sh
2024-09-14 12:14
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