BLAST request ESIC investigation into Astralis' emergency substitution for BLAST Fall Final

27-9-2024 15:19

The tournament organizer stated that "conflicting information" has been presented to them regarding the situation.

There has been widespread criticism of BLAST's decision to allow Astralis to use cadiaN as an emergency substitute

BLAST has announced that they have requested a "formal investigation" by ESIC into Astralis' request for an emergency substitution for BLAST Premier Fall Final. The request comes after Astralis have already concluded their campaign at Fall Final, where they exited the tournament in joint-last place.

The announcement stated that the matter had been "a continually evolving situation" and that "conflicting information" was presented to BLAST. "We've held what we hoped would be final discussions with Astralis and the player’s representatives over the last few days to clarify the situation, which resulted with both parties voicing different positions," BLAST's statement read. Whilst not explicitly stated, Alexander "⁠br0⁠" Bro and his representatives would presumably be to whom the statement refers.

Astralis got cadiaN in for the Fall Final on an emergency sub. Was it against the rules?

The situation began when Astralis revealed upon signing Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller that his first matches for the team would be at BLAST Fall Final, despite the deadline for roster submissions for said event having passed two weeks prior to his signing. HLTV conducted an investigation into the matter, and found that BLAST had sent an email to teams attending the event stating that they had approved an emergency addition to Astralis' roster "due to a medical emergency" with one of their players.

Seven captains unite to protest BLAST-Astralis decision in open letter

br0's agent later stated via X that his client was not dealing with any health issues, and was in fact "fully healthy and ready to perform." HLTV spoke with representatives from three other teams attending Fall Final, who privately expressed doubt regarding Astralis' request for an emergency substitution.

BLAST: "We have been given no reason to question Astralis’ original statement to us"

The captains of the seven teams attending Fall Final besides Astralis then organized a protest against BLAST's decision to allow the emergency sub, all signing an open letter to BLAST and six of them missing out on Fall Final's media day.

In the wake of the public pressure being applied to BLAST, they released a statement saying they had "been given no reason to question Astralis' original statement." It seems BLAST have now changed their position on the matter, judging by their discussions with Astralis and br0's representatives and their request to ESIC.

Asstralis again

2024-09-27 15:20

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Esic gonna do nothing LMFAO

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sorry to interupt your conversation, i just wanted to say that i agree

2024-09-27 15:23

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maybe that's what blast are looking for ? having an "investigation" that results in nothing to justify their inaction on the matter

2024-09-27 16:24

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For sure now they can say ESIC did an investigation no matter what is the result BLAST did nothing wrong . In reality they are the ones who started this shit show.

2024-09-27 17:01

Nah they’ll give a statement in 2026.

Well, they are the ones that banned coaches and do anti-doping, so they have to be involved

2024-09-27 16:35

shouldnt blast be able to just investigate for themselves????

2024-09-27 16:50

they investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong. Plus all players who opted to not join media day must pay 50k to blast as reparations.

2024-09-27 19:57

esic ))

Blastralis Clowns

W, ig all of Astralis were too "unfit" for this tournament anyways

esic bout to get sued by blastralis

2024-09-27 15:21

Absolute W Will we get a video again from cadiaN and stavn crying how the community is mean to them?

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Well it’s not really the players fault this time is it

2024-09-27 16:17

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It's their fault for joining astralis who has a history of making their players do and say shady stuff. But yeah generally I agree with you.

2024-09-27 21:20

I do not understand this zero accountability for players take at all. Astralis asked them to cheat, and they did. Would you feel the same if Astralis asked Cadian to wear an earpiece under his headset and he did? Not his fault if the org asked him to do it, right?

2024-09-27 21:36

In general I agree with this, but Astralis specifically asked for an exception and Blast granted it. The players are being told by the TO that they should play. Very different from intentionally cheating with an earpiece. They also won't have all of the information about the situation, so it puts them in a really tough position.

2024-09-27 23:02

Esic won't do anything kekw

Don’t worry, ESIC will solve everything!1!1!1!!1

2024-09-27 15:22

ESIC XD

In 5 years they will conclude their investigations and punish Astralis, just for the decision to be reversed after Astralis threatens with a lawsuit.

I could definitely beat ESIC 1v5 in matchmaking with armor + default pistol

ESIC gonna wash the dirty laundry squeky clean for Blasstralis. Expect nothing less.

2024-09-27 15:24

There are just too many dramas about Astralis. What's fun of sports when you are not following the rules.

2024-09-27 15:25

ESIC will say, thank you, we will look into this. After 6 months and people bothering them, they will say that they will "announce their investigation findings soon" and then never mention this ever again.

W from BLAST, but not sure if ESIC will do anything tbh

??? they are eliminated so who cares

2024-09-27 15:26

ESIC on its way to not do jack shit again

2024-09-27 15:27

You could just... be more thoroughly with the request rather than hire an even more incompetent third party that is ESIC?

2024-09-27 15:29

Notice how this was done after they got eliminated, get the fuck out with this bullshit. Blast trying to look presentable after driving away half of top 15 orgs from next year's circuit with their dumbass stunt.

won't do a thing

Asking ESIC so you can pretend to care about competitive integrity whilst knowing nothing consequential will actually happen

2024-09-27 15:30

3y later they will say that maybe there was some misconduct but cadian is not playing for astralis anymore so they will close investigation classic

2024-09-27 15:31

This isn't about cadiaN but the management.

2024-09-27 16:00

Astralis: our lawyers will contact you ESIC: We have stopped our investigation regarding Astralis and did not find evidence about any wrongdoing.

2024-09-27 15:40

Or for the pr. Astralis : we are truly sorry, we won't do it again. We will work with ESIC to make better rules. ESIC : since Astralis apologies and collaborates, we won't put charges. They are showing good wills. Blast : we also accept apology, since ESIC is a credible organization and will work to prevent those inappropriate actions. They will make a joint statement. Everyone is happy (astralis, blast and esic). Nothing changed

2024-09-27 18:49

Yeah ESIC will defo do something yepp

2024-09-27 15:34

This is like requesting the FBI to look into the CIA

Two-Faced BLAST and ASStralis at it again

2024-09-27 15:35

'We will get this clown show with a serious sounding name to say that Astralis did nothing wrong, so you all shut the fuck up'

2024-09-27 15:36

who cares they finished last anyways

ESIC received paypal donation from Astralis to stop investigation

2024-09-27 15:41

ESIC will take 2 years to make such a investigation, no doubt

couldnt they just contact br0's manager?

2024-09-27 15:45

Day by day a lot of fixed matches, throws, and ESIC srsly investigate this bullsh*t? Totally joke and out of hand. Lost all respect.

2024-09-27 15:49

??? bro why didn't THEY investigate when they had a chance

blastralis aint no joke

2024-09-27 16:04

They did. And they doubled down on their ruling. This is just an attempt to pass the blame after their team was already eliminated in last place.

2024-09-27 21:32

God bless these fucking idiots

2024-09-28 00:06

I'm sure the asstralis lawyers will come in and ruin this. Just like the coaching big investigation. Lots of accountability in Denmark it seems.

There is plenty of accountability in Denmark, but there is pretty much none for big organizations in cs. Astralis should be banned from BLAST events for a certain amount of time, but it probably wont happen. Big orgs have too much power

2024-09-27 16:12

Like CCT, Astralis gonna pay to esic and bro, nothing will happen

2024-09-27 15:50

Imagine if ESIC bans Astralis. Not gonna happen, but just imagine. Absolute cinema

This org can’t ban any tier2 fixed organisation and wanna ban astralis, sure

2024-09-27 15:53

So after they got eliminated? :D

2024-09-27 15:55

esic is useless so this wont go anywhere

2024-09-27 15:56

AHYAHHAAHHAAHAHHHAHHAHAHA ESIC XDDDDDDDDDDD

2024-09-27 15:57

Blast trying to save face but no matter what Astralis told them, it should have been the coach and not Cadian whom should have played... They decided to bend the rule themselves

2024-09-27 15:58

super lol

meanwhile astralis already got invited to blast world finals seems like you're really serious about this investigation!! trash organizations all three, please disband

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they can still move the invite to another team if ESIC investigation finds Astralis guilty, but I'd doubt it'll be finished by then, it starts in a month

2024-09-27 16:23

yeah but it's just a bad look is all i meant also esic is as useful as a blind & deaf security guard

2024-09-27 16:27

funny

2024-09-27 16:06

Blast esl esic all of them clowns

2024-09-27 16:07

ESIC LUL LUL LUL

2024-09-27 16:09

false smokesign ? dont know what the actual term would be but we all know this means nothing given how tight astralis&blast are while esiic did actually 0 since inception. astralis probably even told blast to do so

Great idea! Cuz ESIC knows how to handle esports struggels, right?!

2024-09-27 16:13

ESIC LUL

"ESIC - Extremely Sluggish Incompetent and Careless" org. It is as good as Valve's Anti-cheat

2024-09-27 16:33

Of course they wait until their buddies are done playing to start an investigation, which we know will go nowhere when Astralis wave a little money around

2024-09-27 16:40

ESIC? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

2024-09-27 16:42

Blast "twofaced" Toledo

2024-09-27 16:55

Comedian bringin us some real comedy.

2024-09-27 16:58

ah yes all of this for org gets no punishment despite clear rule violation #762

2024-09-27 17:10

200IQ move by Blast. Hire ESIC to look into it, knowing full well it'll take them 3 1/2 years to announce: the matter has been resolved. By then everyone will have forgotten what the fuss was about

2024-09-27 17:13

ESIC IN THE BIG 2024 😭😭😭😭😭

2024-09-27 17:17

what can they do? ban astralis next blast major?

2024-09-27 17:19

Hopefully Valve wouldn't grant a major to blast after this shit show.

2024-09-27 21:30

ESIC 💀

2024-09-27 17:31

Two fraud organisations

2024-09-27 17:51

From "have been given no reason" to "conflicting informatiom" only AFTER Asstralis gets elliminated. So convenient for you huh? What about ruggah not subbing but still coaching?

2024-09-27 17:56

can we please punish asstralis this time? and blast too for that matter

2024-09-27 17:59

What is ESIC gonna do about it? Say they did it wrong then say they themselves were wrong the second they see the shadow of a lawyer?

2024-09-27 18:09

Yeah, after they lost and got sent to the airport... If they would have won, Blast wouldn't say shit.

2024-09-27 18:36

ESIC the most useless org ever wont do anything xd

2024-09-27 18:38

Blast requested 3rd party investigation me: :) it's esic me: :(

2024-09-27 18:46

Whom did you expect as a 3rd party?

2024-09-28 01:46

is blast danish or something? looks to be covering astralis… didn’t think danes of all people do shady stuff

2024-09-27 18:53

Yes, BLAST is Danish. Blast was started as a subsidiary of RFRSH Entertainment, which also owned Astralis at the time.

2024-09-27 21:29

danes do shady stuff a lot do you remember Hunden?

2024-09-27 22:13

This is such a pathetic attempt to try and save face. Blast let him compete and only now do they want to take any action, and their idea of addressing the situation is calling ESIC lmao. The downfall of Blast needs to be studied.

2024-09-27 18:56

they got last place anyways. so why do we even care about this situation

2024-09-27 19:15

The question is, what is there to investigate? Astralis lied about br0 being sick while his agent confirmed that he is perfectly fine and he even practices with ENCE. BLAST owners also have stakes in Astralis, and they decide to damage both their companies reputation even more, very smart business move instead of addressing the obvious.

2024-09-27 19:43

LMAO ESIC

2024-09-27 20:20

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probably the most corrupts....

2024-09-27 21:06

Nahh thats FIFA. ESIC is just a useless org that have zero power anyway, They cant make anything happen.

2024-09-27 21:27

True words. This is why I stopped watch football in 1998 :) I should do the sa.e with eSports. As all teams are slaves of the betting companies and matchfixing obsessed them all... Not even to mention hackers...

2024-09-28 09:07

Esic is straight doodoo but I don't think match fixing / hacking is a problem at the tier 1/2/3 level

2024-09-28 13:34

You don't think because you are not part of it 😔 there are many pros who talk about it....

2024-09-28 16:02

astralis been cheating since hunden was a part of the org, no surprise they are still shady af

2024-09-27 20:27

true words.... slaves of the betting companies

2024-09-27 21:05

sketchy org

2024-09-27 21:19

lol you request an investigation AFTER your team has already been eliminated in last place. ok. Also, what exactly is ESIC supposed to investigate? BLAST's own rules that they mis-applied?

2024-09-27 21:25

blastralis trying to save face though this will amount to nothing

2024-09-27 21:46

Astralis has to disappoint me once a year :)

2024-09-27 22:11

so blast first allowed astralis to sub in then “checked” if they r not lying about bro then request investigation? wtf??

2024-09-28 00:20

Blast thinks we are stupid lmao Everyone can see that they waited until Astralis's KO to do something about it. And of all things, they send it to ESIC xD The most incompetent and impotent body.

2024-09-28 01:39