device: "cadiaN's system is something that needs time"

The Danish AWPer admitted that adapting to the new captain's philosophy has proved challenging.

device gave up the IGL role to cadiaN last month

Astralis star Nicolai "⁠device⁠" Reedtz said that his team still needs time to adapt to Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller's system following a top-12 finish at IEM Rio.

cadiaN joined Astralis less than a month ago as a rifling IGL, taking over the captaincy from device. The Danish team has gotten off to a rough start under the 29-year-old and is yet to win a series after losses against Vitality and Spirit at the BLAST Fall Final and against HEROIC and Virtus.pro in Rio.

Following the team's elimination in Brazil, device admitted that cadiaN still needs time to bed in his ideas and get everyone on the same page.

"It's of course very new for me," he told Dust2 Brasil. "Some of the guys know it from before. It's a little bit different from what I'm used to playing. We haven't found our groove yet. It's obvious from the results. It can be really good. We just need more time.

"As the second voice, it's just mostly on CT, positioning where I want to play. On the T side, if I have something I maybe want to do, but mostly it's for the team. I think also the system cadiaN likes and calls is something that needs time. It's not that set.

"It's more about understanding the philosophy and the thinking than having rounds to play. As I said, it's going to take time. It's also very rough right now."

device had taken over as IGL only in February, replacing Benjamin "⁠blameF⁠" Bremer in that role after the failed qualifying campaign for PGL Major Copenhagen.

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At the time, device had said he saw himself in that role "for many years to come." Questioned about this change just months into his IGL stint, he explained that the team wanted to "change something up" and that getting cadiaN was "a good opportunity."

"If it meant I had just to play the AWPing role, that's how it is," he said. "Who knows if it's the last time I'm in-game leading.

"With this team, it's going to be him. He's a great in-game leader. It's just how it is sometimes. I'm still excited for this team."

Astralis will return to action later this month at the BLAST Premier World Final, scheduled for October 30-November 3.

Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
2086
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1793
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Benjamin 'blameF' Bremer
Benjamin 'blameF' Bremer
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1247
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.60
#1
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San Marino twovetti
true
2024-10-10 13:03
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4 replies
partially, he should also have 4 competent fraggers that he can use
2024-10-10 16:53
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#70
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Australia hoangii
If a team wins when first getting together its "honeymoon" period If they lose its "give them time" Sometimes its just the wrong decision If you playing this bad you arent going to get magically better and be competing for titles
2024-10-11 01:56
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2 replies
navi actually did
2024-10-11 10:24
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1 reply
#93
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
Navi got good because the toxic player dragging them down left S1mple
2024-10-12 03:40
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#2
Faceit level 7  | 
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Romania Tirra
if they dont enter the major there will be no time
2024-10-10 13:04
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3 replies
i'd say if they dont make the major they'll have more time LOL
2024-10-10 15:49
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#57
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Romania Tirra
its fun to watch cadian , so i'd like to see him have more time / succeed
2024-10-10 16:28
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They won't make it to this major either. How many consecutives will be that this time around btw, i lost count !!
2024-10-11 16:43
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#3
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Latvia AnywayWho
as always
2024-10-10 13:04
1
Hopefully starts to work before stabbi system
2024-10-10 13:05
24
Astralis about to miss their fourth major in a row
2024-10-10 13:08
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6 replies
#20
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United Kingdom quantum01
No chance
2024-10-10 13:36
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5 replies
#23
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Austria Im_The_One
for astralis at next major
2024-10-10 13:46
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4 replies
#24
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United Kingdom quantum01
They will make the top 14 EU
2024-10-10 13:47
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3 replies
#28
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Scotland rbbe
you probably thought that the last 3 times
2024-10-10 13:53
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surely they wont lose to some t3 cis mix and get eliminated
2024-10-10 13:54
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#34
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Austria Im_The_One
lol no delulu
2024-10-10 14:06
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#6
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Canada p1peb0mb
Come to fnatic device.
2024-10-10 13:09
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#13
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Sweden ELDREGN
One of the few possible downgrades available
2024-10-10 13:17
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8 replies
For fnatic?
2024-10-10 13:24
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7 replies
#16
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Sweden ELDREGN
"fOr FnAtIc??"
2024-10-10 13:27
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6 replies
#47
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United States PlankCS
I take Nawwk 10 times out of 10 over current device.
2024-10-10 15:46
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5 replies
haha funny enough tho nawwk was kicked because of device from NIP, then device f'ed NIP.
2024-10-10 15:54
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4 replies
Deserved tho
2024-10-11 00:01
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#83
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Zimbabwe KennyKEX
No Jonas Gundersens fault
2024-10-11 09:11
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#84
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Germany joramsimp
how is that on devve? If you want to blame someone blame Emilia Hult, dev1ce didnt do anything wrong mate
2024-10-11 09:54
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1 reply
Yeah, true, she did really dirty to him and so many people.
2024-10-11 10:34
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yeye we belive
2024-10-10 13:09
0
only if it's time untill retirement to steal enough paychecks
2024-10-10 13:10
1
astralis no major qualification for 4 times in a row??
2024-10-10 13:13
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#10
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Europe kuu1
Well, they already have four so they are not exactly in need for another one. It's nice of them to let other teams win it.
2024-10-10 13:16
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#51
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Brazil AS131279
wdym they already have four? only device is a major champion in this lineup lmao, the others didnt achieve nothin
2024-10-10 15:54
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#56
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Europe kuu1
Players are simple employees, they can be changed at any time. I was speaking about the organization.
2024-10-10 16:26
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#21
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United Kingdom quantum01
No chance
2024-10-10 13:36
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Look like for some people it needs too much time (Bumkindar)
2024-10-10 13:16
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#12
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Finland M1K120
COPIUM
2024-10-10 13:16
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#19
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Brazil dogsrules
heroic was really competitive with him as IGL, but then in liquid he made negative IQ decisions and calls that makes me wonder wtf happened to him. i remember him and twistzz rushing mid inferno as ct for no reason at all and doing some level 6 plays. didn't watch him playing/calling for astralis yet tho
2024-10-10 13:33
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I think there was too many chief in liquid. Yeki + Twistz + cadian wanted to decide the gameplan. I still believe Cadian is a better igl than twistz, specially in terms of mementum calls/ bs calls and in terms of leadership.
2024-10-10 13:54
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his calling was fine but his individual form was appalling
2024-10-10 13:56
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He said it himself that he lost confidence because of what happened at the end of his time in heroic so thats probably why.
2024-10-10 15:52
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Not necessarily what happened in Heroic but being doubted by his teammates in Liquid. Everyone knows Twistzz, NAF & Yekindar didn't buy into his system it got to a point where they were making the strats. cadiaN is so professional because I would have left the team mid season.
2024-10-11 01:04
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#71
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Australia hoangii
Cadian is so professional? You mean the guy who cheated with hundencam and then go on to make a crying video denying knowledge of it? Yeah hunden was getting the info and giving that info to the other team and not heroic. Very professional of him
2024-10-11 01:58
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Professional 1. Relating to or belonging to a profession 2. Engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime. Stay in school kids.
2024-10-11 02:02
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#75
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Australia hoangii
So cheating at a game that is your job is professionalism Sit down boy
2024-10-11 02:03
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4 replies
Another wrong take. I'm not a boy. You wanna give it a third try?
2024-10-11 02:04
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#77
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Australia hoangii
I dont care what you identify as. You are wrong but too stubborn to admit it. Answer me this Cheating at a game you play professionally is professsionalism?
2024-10-11 02:07
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2 replies
I don't have to identify as anything. I am a girl. You can answer that question, can't you?
2024-10-11 02:09
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1 reply
#79
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Australia hoangii
Just as i thought. You dont even want to say cadian didnt cheat because you know he did Cya dude
2024-10-11 02:09
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One thing that bothers me with these top teams is, that there is just so much room for error. Especially when you are partnered. We suck and cant win a BO3 in our first two tournaments after making a blockbuster move? Oh, no, anyway, there are 4 more tournaments in front of us. Oh, we lost another? No worries, another 3 coming. These guys are being paid 20k + euros and even after few tournaments they will say "we need time". (This is more like a general comment, I understand that this Astralis actually didnt have much time, but they used this excuse before).
2024-10-10 13:45
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NaVi was shit or bang average for 8 months after going international. Give people time.
2024-10-10 13:53
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And they were getting flamed for it. What I meant is that I feel like the results just dont matter for the teams that much. They get fucked but in the grand scheme of things its jo big deal.
2024-10-10 14:57
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This will change next year when there are no free partner team invites anymore and ranking and results matter. (Look at OG, EG or BIG staying in top30 without any results). Players not being dependand on 2 or 3 tournaments for their career and thus income is good for the game overall id say. btw are u the marty from wot?
2024-10-10 16:14
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I agree. And yes, its me :)
2024-10-10 16:32
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I dont really agree with that, Astralis have made constant changes for 2 years trying to get better so at the least it doesnt really apply to them. There are obviously some examples like EG when they played but for the most part this is the only way you can go about it. They cant start panicking after their first 2 events with very little time to pracc, and they can swap every single month either, doesnt mean they dont care but obviously its more productive to not go full emo, and im pretty sure the players feel pressure, its not like they will never be replaced + they obviously want to win and are probably not happy with these results
2024-10-10 19:36
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At least they are not fooling as with the usual Astralis honeymoon glow up that lasts only 2 events. Maybe this time of they get good it will be for real.
2024-10-10 13:52
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#35
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Switzerland ^zyb
cadiaN with his rifling skill also needs time!
2024-10-10 14:16
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#72
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Australia hoangii
Another 15years maybe
2024-10-11 01:59
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So where are you?
2024-10-10 14:20
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#37
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Romania nontoxic
Sounds like COPE to me
2024-10-10 14:44
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haha devorce and stavn gon kick comedian once again
2024-10-10 14:51
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#40
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Sweden williamnr1
man, guys like device and zywoo needs to be studied. the absolute humbleness is amazing. we see to few people with their characteristics these days. straight up awesome human beings.
2024-10-10 14:52
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#73
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
You talk about humble and dont mention electronic? That man is the most humble Joining inferior teams and just doing his job without saying a word Even with a resume like his and being an ex team mate of s1mple That man should be alpha wherever he goes for that reason alone Yet he takes a back seat Mr humbletronic
2024-10-11 02:01
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Cadian will never work. Bc that entire roster is garbage. Evem device is washed and should hang it up.
2024-10-10 15:20
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#45
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Czech Republic thezipp3r
Dev1ce has few more years i’d say
2024-10-10 15:24
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#44
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States jibjeenyus
It honestly just was cadian playing like dogshit. Everyone else was playing good. Cadian is terrible with a rifle, I can't believe he thinks hes gonna be able to be good without an awp.
2024-10-10 15:23
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cadiaN was doing that in Rogue. He doesn't have to be a super good fragger if he can call well and set up his players. That's one thing that dev1ce admitted he wasn't doing well. He said it's his responsibility as an IGL to put his players in a position to frag when asked about the team underperforming in some interview.
2024-10-11 01:09
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You're wrong, cadian's rifle is better than many IGLs
2024-10-11 03:05
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1 reply
#90
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States jibjeenyus
Im csgo, since cs2, no.
2024-10-11 15:31
0
Eventually -device -Staehr +sjuush +TeSeS +Xizt Well planed execution by Astralis
2024-10-10 15:45
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I'm pretty sure liquid players said the exact same thing lol
2024-10-10 15:57
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1 reply
That would work only if roland shows up in important matches for liquid and they kick YUCKINDAR
2024-10-10 16:21
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True, even though heroic didn't win much under cadian but that team was scary for everyone... Let him cook
2024-10-10 16:20
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1 reply
They would have won more if Teses and Stavn didn't choke on stage.
2024-10-11 01:11
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#59
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Algeria SilverQuick
And time will tell ofcourse =)
2024-10-10 16:51
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#61
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Yugoslavia GumGuyHLTV
dev0rce finally outcalled and outawped by cadian, crazy timeline we live in
2024-10-10 16:59
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yappa yappa yappa
2024-10-10 17:58
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needs time for you to realize you need to kick him
2024-10-10 18:36
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#67
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Russia KillKiss
astralis let alone cadian's system needs time since their awful streak of skipping majors astralis will disband faster than that time will come
2024-10-11 01:06
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#80
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Denmark Fenix7
I want cadian to lift the coveted trophy and retire as soon as possible. I love this guy madly, but this job is killing him.
2024-10-11 02:15
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Just like device saying that he could foresee himself igl for the next few years uhhh yeah probs same shit here
2024-10-11 03:18
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#85
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland snejq
astralis slowny down to tier 2....
2024-10-11 10:23
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Well he ain't wrong, but hopefully the time they need is 3+ years
2024-10-11 13:12
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good sign calling it cadian's system and not "our" system. liquid's problem was that they resisted cadian's system from the start. astralis at least have the intention of letting cadian actually lead.
2024-10-11 13:18
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With time, they should improve a lot. But I am so worried about dev1ce. Man, he has been completely out of form since taking IGL duties. He must regain his performance pretty soon. He can do so much better.
2024-10-11 16:54
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