groove: "My main goal was playoffs; we did the minimum"

Cloud9's coach is "okay" with the Major result, but the team's hopes were much higher ahead of 2025, when ranking becomes king.

Cloud9 are ranked 35th on the Global Valve Regional Standings following their Major exit

Cloud9 were eliminated from the Perfect World Shanghai Major Opening stage with a 1-3 record on Wednesday, bringing an end to a disappointing second half to the season.

The Russian side had struggled online following the summer additions of Kaisar "⁠ICY⁠" Faiznurov, Nikita "⁠HeavyGod⁠" Martynenko and Timofey "⁠interz⁠" Yakushin. It was a result of the new roster coming from "different schools," according to Kirill "⁠Boombl4⁠" Mikhailov, and it meant that Cloud9 left it all on the table for the Major cycle.

Things finally started clicking at the RMR, with Cloud9 fending off several underdogs on the way to qualification, but their Major campaign ended abruptly after they suffered close losses to Liquid, paiN and Complexity in the first stage.

For a team still coming to grips with the new lineup, qualifying for the Major was an achievement in itself, admitted the coach, groove.

"We did the minimum, qualification for the Major," he told HLTV following Cloud9's elimination. "If we compare it to qualification from our region, I guess it's a really good result in terms of Astralis, Eternal Fire, other good teams didn't qualify for this Major. When we have only 14 slots, it makes sense. I'm not happy, but I'm okay about this result."

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Perfect World Shanghai Major 2024 Opening Stage
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Cloud9's hopes for the Major itself were still much higher than this. It was crucial to have a good result to end the year before invites to big LANs become all about the Valve ranking from 2025. There, Cloud9 sit in 35th place in the world following the end of their Major campaign.

"I don't think it will be enough to have invites," groove conceded. "That's why our main goal was to go to playoffs, it would have meant we'd have invites to some LAN tournaments. I'm not sure about next year, we'll see, but definitely we'll have to play qualifiers."

Qualifiers will come few and far between next year, with most tournaments featuring invite-only structures. The earliest tournament between the three biggest tournament organizers, ESL, BLAST, and PGL, with qualifying spots that haven't already been determined won't come before March with BLAST Open Lisbon.

That means Cloud9 have another four months ahead of them before they get a chance to work their way back up to tier one and will likely have to rely on online play — a daunting prospect for a team that seemed to come alive only when they finally got back on LAN at the RMR.

Russia Kirill 'Boombl4' Mikhailov
Kirill 'Boombl4' Mikhailov
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1433
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.68
Russia Timofey 'interz' Yakushin
Timofey 'interz' Yakushin
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1091
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.58
Israel Nikita 'HeavyGod' Martynenko
Nikita 'HeavyGod' Martynenko
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
543
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.64
Kazakhstan Kaisar 'ICY' Faiznurov
Kaisar 'ICY' Faiznurov
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
332
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.57
-broky +icy pls
2024-12-02 21:21
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#7
Faceit plus user Faceit level 4  | 
karrigan | 
Germany Pummel
are you drunk?
2024-12-02 21:26
44
3 replies
for wanting to replace a mediocre awper with a great talented up and coming young awper?
2024-12-02 21:34
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#34
Jee | 
Canada T3Evz
Are you high?
2024-12-02 22:58
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#35
Faceit level 10  | 
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Lithuania Mexzy
mf thinks all awpers have the same playstyle and serve the same purpose in each and every team.. 🤣🤣🤣
2024-12-02 23:06
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I think this guy forgets to breath sometimes.
2024-12-03 09:20
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#2
Faceit level 10  | 
podi | 
Finland Jabeti
Now its time for you to leave and stop wasting talented CIS players
2024-12-02 21:22
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7 replies
he is great scouting talent but a bad coach
2024-12-02 21:25
2
6 replies
He had outside help from hooch when assembling this lineup
2024-12-02 21:37
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1 reply
he scouted hooch
2024-12-02 21:39
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#18
Faceit level 10  | 
podi | 
Finland Jabeti
so he should step back and become team manager
2024-12-02 21:45
0
1 reply
#44
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Cayman Islands LasMedicinas
He was on gambit
2024-12-03 01:23
0
he's not the one who scouted this roster tho, it's hooch's job
2024-12-03 00:52
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#43
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Cayman Islands LasMedicinas
Nvm i missread
2024-12-03 01:23
0
man groove is a great GM but a terrible coach. Wish he'd go back to that role and bring in somebody like dastan instead. no clue why jack is still on board with this guy. c9's alright this major, but they could've been great.
2024-12-02 21:23
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#41
rain | 
Australia tH7
What about Starix as a coach?
2024-12-03 00:48
0
1 reply
washed since 2017
2024-12-03 05:49
0
why pay additonal salary when u get sticker money with shit lineup
2024-12-03 04:30
1
Playoffs with interz? AAHAHAHAHAHBAHABAHABAHABABABABABABABABABABABAHAGAHAHA
2024-12-02 21:24
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#8
Faceit level 7  | 
device | 
Spain mavericko19
Delusional over 9000
2024-12-02 21:28
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You need someone like kayuosake just raw firepower instead of internz. If not you wont win annything
2024-12-02 21:28
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-interz -groove + dastan +perfecto , top 10 team
2024-12-02 21:37
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Probably can't now. Removing interz will lose them points in the ranking where they are already in a pretty shaky position
2024-12-02 21:40
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they dont need the ranking anymore, next major is in half a year
2024-12-02 22:02
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Invites to events are also ranking based now. #35 is not enough for tier-1, sure, but might just be enough to be invited to closed qualifiers and decent tier-2.
2024-12-02 22:04
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ah yes didnt know, appreciate
2024-12-02 22:09
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On the other hand, it didn't stop BetBoom whioare in a very similar position at #33 as of now (with full lineup that is) from changing 2, so we shall see
2024-12-02 22:25
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#16
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n0rb3r7 | 
Belgium daerius
why do you think perfecto would join? he literally would rather be listed as a sub so c9 can play major than play himself
2024-12-02 21:41
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he wanted give interz a chance to lift the trophy
2024-12-02 22:02
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#17
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Israel RoyBenji
Interz is trash and Heavygod choked hard. This major proved that icy is a great up and comer, Heavygod has crazy potential and ax1le is still good. I really did not like boom’s calling, especially on T side… pretty horrible. This team has potential and I’m happy with what they showed, definitely top 20 currently but there’s a lot of work to be done
2024-12-02 21:44
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#19
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Poland Botaz
i think all tournaments should have some form of qualifying phase lets say for 10% of the slots
2024-12-02 21:47
0
CCt playoffs? Duable.
2024-12-02 21:48
0
My main goal was to blow up and then act like I don’t know nobody
2024-12-02 21:56
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With the amount of events on the calendar I am 100% sure top10-20 teams will be skipping about half of them, so top30-40 teams will have the invites they want.
2024-12-02 21:57
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#23
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Billyk | 
United States jakobii
team is pretty close to being good, needs at least 1 player change probably interz and maybe coach change
2024-12-02 21:59
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learn to coach t sides then cuh
2024-12-02 22:00
1
+ N0rbert - interz
2024-12-02 22:08
2
bro just accepted that this lineup is mid
2024-12-02 22:33
0
Signing interz was a huge mistake, what where they thinking?
2024-12-02 22:42
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C9 management has bad reputation. No1 except him accept the offer
2024-12-03 07:52
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"We did the minimum, qualification for the Major".. i dont see no c9 at the major hltv.org/events/7524/perfect-world-shang..
2024-12-02 22:53
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#36
donk | 
Other Adeoon
so sad for icy :(
2024-12-02 23:06
0
Still dont understand how he has scaped any criticism ever since the gambit lineup.... hasnt done ever since no matter the team he had.
2024-12-02 23:07
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-main goal play-offs -going 1-3 in baby stage -"result is ok" ??
2024-12-02 23:32
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#46
Cooper | 
Europe kuu1
He said "minimum", not "OK". And getting through the tough European RMR is an achievement on its own.
2024-12-03 02:00
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prnt.sc/YnjBvyrpPRi- he literally did tho their rmr was free, they played Faze and 3 t4 teams..
2024-12-03 02:19
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#48
Cooper | 
Europe kuu1
That is not "free", you have to win those matches. I hate it when someone downplays what these teams are doing...
2024-12-03 02:21
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#39
Faceit level 10  | 
n0rb3r7 | 
Belgium daerius
C9 should sign fame/n0rb3r7 if they get cut from VP. Interz gotta go
2024-12-03 00:31
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#52
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Cuba Dyabolic
That's what I'm saying. Anyone but interz at this point.
2024-12-03 03:25
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#40
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Zvede | 
Latvia Zvede
my main my goal is to blow up and act like I don't know nobody
2024-12-03 00:40
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#45
Faceit level 8  | 
DZ | 
Algeria SilverQuick
They had good odds to make it tbh, but it's CS better luck next I guess.
2024-12-03 01:37
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#49
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kyousuke | 
United States puppies
Now they are not NA. They will get better. *Hugs 2018 NA's Greatest Moment*
2024-12-03 02:35
0
just shut up u r useless
2024-12-03 02:49
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#51
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Cuba Dyabolic
-groove -interz PLEASE JACK! MAKE ME CARE AGAIN..........
2024-12-03 03:22
0
With this line up major apearance is a goal
2024-12-03 05:26
0
Please leave groove or change the role in C9. C9 management is cooked, can't even see what is happening in their CS team. groove assistance +XOMA as main coach, - interz +norbert. And then your roster will get higher results. I can see that boom4 is hungry to get results, but he doesn't have enough utulities to do that.
2024-12-03 09:45
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