ZywOo: "We didn't play our A-game for all the tournament"

The French superstar recognizes that there were cracks in Vitality's gameplay during IEM Dallas.

Entering IEM Dallas with five event wins in a row to their name, Vitality looked unstoppable as the European side set their sights on the last event prior to the BLAST.tv Austin Major.

In the end, Vitality's reign of terror continued, as Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire's men trounced MOUZ in the final 3-0 to lay claim to their sixth consecutive trophy in 2025. Vitality were not completely flawless in Dallas; the team faltered for the first time ever on Train in a tight semi-final against Falcons, and only narrowly overcame The MongolZ during the group stage.

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Vitality sweep MOUZ to win IEM Dallas and make it six trophies in a row

Despite being behind Ádám "⁠torzsi⁠" Torzsás statistically for much of the event, Vitality star Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut stepped up for his team in the grand final of IEM Dallas with a 1.52 rating to clinch his sixth MVP medal in a row.

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ZywOo earns 26th career MVP at IEM Dallas

Not long after Vitality's win over MOUZ, ZywOo chatted with HLTV regarding the team's sixth consecutive win, the mistakes the team made during the event, and how Vitality intends to prepare for the Austin Major just around the corner.

You can read or watch the full interview below, or listen on Spotify.


Here with ZywOo after a hard-fought win over MOUZ at IEM Dallas. You've got your sixth MVP in a row; how are you feeling?

Of course, I feel great. Huge win for us, I think.

(apEX: Another [MVP]?)

Yeah, I didn't know. (laughs)

We were really confident before joining this final because we know how to beat them, how to beat MOUZ, because it's been five times in a row, six now. So we are really confident, we didn't put any pressure on our shoulders because we know how strong we are now. I think we were really confident before joining the final.

The last few finals you guys have had were particularly close, and this one really wasn't with the exception of the first map. Why was it so straightforward this time around?

I actually think we didn't play our A-game for all the tournament except the final. For us, it was a bit shaky this tournament, to be honest, in terms of individual and team play as well. We were losing some clutches, like the 1v5. In the past two tournaments, we didn't lose these.

We are making more mistakes, more individually, and that's what we're trying to not do, because at the Major we're going to have more pressure as the favorites. We need to make sure we're not making these kinds of mistakes in important moments. We just need to play together. I think we played really good in this final, better than usual.

You got it on the nose there, you also lost Train as well at this event; it was a bit rough earlier. How do you aim to fix that before the Major?

We know we are good on almost every map now. We are not scared to pick any map into anyone. I think we're just going to be focused on what we like to do, and the mistakes we did as well. We just need to improve that, and we're going to be ready for the Major.

At this point, your win streak is up to 30 wins in a row. Interview after interview you guys keep saying it doesn't affect you. Now that you have to juggle the Major and the streak, is it not on your mind at all?

No, because we are so far behind NIP, so we need 30 more wins. Obviously, we are not focused on it, we are just focused on ourselves. Like people say, after we broke the Liquid record, everyone was surprised because we were not even focused on it; we just focused on how we were going to play the game.

For us, it's a bonus. Every game, if we win it, is a bonus. Even though we're gonna maybe someday lose one game, I don't think we're going to be sad, because at some point it's a really huge win for us.

Now that you have won IEM Dallas there is the potential for a second Grand Slam this year. Have you guys thought about that?

Of course not! Imagine winning a second Grand Slam, it's gonna be insane. I mean, we can talk about it if we win Cologne. We're going to put the tournament on the table, maybe we'll think about the Grand Slam, but for now, we are not. The next stage is the Major, so we are really focused on it right now, so we won't focus on it until the second season.

The Major is up next, and it's just been deep run after deep run for you guys. I imagine you need a break and some practice. What is the schedule looking like between now and the Major?

Actually, we're going to have a few days off for break, but after that we're going to play in a bootcamp. We're going to bootcamp in Paris, time to train as hard as we can, because, before joining this tournament we only have five days to work together. I think we want to do more before joining the Major, so we're just going to do bootcamp, working hard. That's going to be the main thing; I don't think we're going to take too much rest.

France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1457
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.60
Hungary Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
925
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.60
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
2443
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.69
may god have mercy on vita's major opponents
2025-05-26 02:31
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didn't play A-game for all the tournament, but still easy win nonetheless
2025-05-26 06:22
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Some would call it "aura".
2025-05-26 12:32
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Brazil a444_
Ok, ok... let's see if this A-game will win the major. Probably vitality won't even make it to the grand final as always 🤭
2025-05-26 02:36
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flag
2025-05-26 02:35
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shut your mouth, this guy doesnt know what he says
2025-05-26 04:51
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flag
2025-05-26 05:24
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Trust me, his flair is even worse
2025-05-26 12:22
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What is it ?
2025-05-26 14:39
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A very, i mean VERY small football club. If you look at the brazilian Serie A table and see whos last placed you will notice the flair. 0 wins in 10 matches.
2025-05-27 17:31
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This guy is so delulu he is gonna be cheering for Luminosity at the major.
2025-05-26 02:39
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China DlDDY
I sentence you to 3 years Haloperidol
2025-05-26 07:21
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African Union NotZazir
The Grand Final of IEM Dallas 2025 will forever be remembered as the stage for the most godlike performance ever seen in the history of Counter-Strike. In an unforgettable display of skill, leadership, and sheer dominance, APEX—now revered by fans as God APEX—obliterated every known record, achieving a mind-bending 3.27 rating over a best-of-three series. With that, he officially secured his place as the highest-rated player in the history of professional play. Across the entire series, APEX operated on a different plane. His impact was relentless. Not a single round went by where he wasn’t directly influencing the outcome. His stats were surreal: a flawless 100% KAST across all three maps. It didn’t matter if he was attacking or defending—he was untouchable. He dropped 35 kills on each map, making even world-class players look like amateurs. Analysts were stunned. Casters ran out of superlatives. Fans could hardly believe what they were watching. This wasn’t just dominance—it was transcendence. But the series was defined by one legendary moment. On the opening map, Vitality found themselves down 0-11 against a seemingly unstoppable MOUZ. The scoreboard painted a picture of defeat. Yet from the depths of despair came Counter-Strike’s greatest clutch. Alone on the CT side, in a 1v5, with just 1 HP, no defuse kit, and 20 seconds left, APEX summoned a miracle. With lightning reflexes and supernatural composure, he dismantled all five MOUZ players in under five seconds. Five perfect kills. One impossible round. The crowd exploded into chaos. The casters lost their voices. Clips of the play broke the internet. That clutch will be remembered for decades to come—as Highlight of the Year, and maybe even the best play in CS history. That moment sparked a fire. Reinvigorated by their captain’s impossible play, Vitality refused to drop another round. What followed was a historic demolition: a 36-0 run to close the series. Not a single mistake. MOUZ couldn’t respond, mentally shattered and physically outplayed. They were spectators to their own unraveling. After the match, in a moment that took fans by surprise, Spinx—APEX’s teammate—announced his retirement. “I’ve seen perfection,” he said. “There’s nothing more to reach.” He returned to Israel, settled in a peaceful village called Kabarh Hamdidi, and opened a small kebab shop. Locals now visit not just for the food, but to hear the legendary tale of the day Spinx played beside a living god. APEX was crowned MVP of the tournament, not merely for his numbers, but for delivering a performance that redefined what was thought possible in Counter-Strike. It was more than a victory—it was a spiritual experience, something that transcended the game and left a permanent mark on its legacy. God, how can you not love Counter-Strike?
2025-05-26 02:32
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didn't read but nice take bro
2025-05-26 08:28
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ChatGPT AHHH take
2025-05-26 09:08
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Portugal W1TMANCS
nice chatgpt
2025-05-27 19:13
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Saving strats
2025-05-26 02:35
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They actually are 😭 They came in this tournament unprepared because they needed to rest and they still won it... imagine when they tryhard 😭
2025-05-26 02:38
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#39
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France JayceCole
let's freaking go!! GO VIT! GO ZywOo!
2025-05-26 07:44
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They had to use one of their B Exec on Mirage which reminded my a lot of Inferno B takes by Astralis back In their era
2025-05-26 09:09
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2025 Vitality is literally prime Astralis on steroids Stick together, same way to exec, nades to max potential, never afraid to trade... but double the firepower
2025-05-26 12:13
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Maybe not double the firepower, but definitely higher. Wouldn't be surprised if they all make the top 20 this year, like Astralis did in 2018, if they can keep up these performances
2025-05-26 15:56
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Yes, it's just a way of talking ! Prime device + magisk + dupreeh was terrifying, but ZywOo + ropz + flameZ is simply the strongest trio we ever saw. I can only think about s1mple + b1t + electronic and coldzera + FalleN + fer, but I think we can agree that the skill ceiling today is higher than 4-6 years ago.
2025-05-26 17:53
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Definitely, I honestly think no trio of players has ever been that strong. Or duo especially. ZywOo and ropz in a clutch together ALWAYS feels doable, which is insane.
2025-05-26 21:53
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Humble flex.
2025-05-26 02:39
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S1mp could never
2025-05-26 02:40
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#10
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NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
jLegend will humble you in Austin.
2025-05-26 02:40
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he cant even save himself from b1t
2025-05-26 03:28
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#18
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NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
Its okay I'm lowkey just trying to jinx jL
2025-05-26 03:41
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United States hypn0_
NaVi got a solid chance of missing Major playoffs for 2nd time in a row with how they've been playing
2025-05-26 06:13
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they going back to france to bootcamp? wtf?
2025-05-26 02:44
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Let Neo cook my friend
2025-05-26 02:45
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Luxembourg 2000
Yeah they've said they tried staying in Shanghai before but it didn't work so they wanna go back and do proper bootcamp atleast that's what mezii said on ohnepixel's stream when dona was interviewing.
2025-05-26 02:46
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thanks for you accurate answer not like the other ones
2025-05-26 10:16
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just searched up, they will play at stage 3 and its gonna start at like mid June. so sound reasonable since they gonna have like 2 more weeks compare to early stage teams. they are all European anyway 1 week off and 1 week bootcamp maybe?
2025-05-26 03:34
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
need the local produce to stay powered up
2025-05-26 03:41
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Stage 3 is like a month away
2025-05-26 04:24
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#72
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France FrenchSceneTrueCEO
They don't wanna intoxicate themselves with the american way of life (burgers, sodas and excuses for being fat)
2025-05-26 15:08
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ahah
2025-05-26 15:11
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And yet they won. I think when a dominant team like vitality emerges, uncertainty starts to brew up in the competition as the orgs look for roster changes and it messes up the team chemistry. This event marks that phase because the competition actually looked awashed here, out of all the previous events that vitality have won
2025-05-26 02:56
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France vuelure
ofc, there's a world where falcons would have won like 3 S tier tournament in row without vitality and they wouldn’t have wanted to make the kyousuke move
2025-05-26 04:04
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India RycerZ
So did other teams xD
2025-05-26 03:40
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#20
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United States erokmofo
Anyone else getting liquid vibes here? Win every tournament for 6 months in between the majors but then fail at the majors...
2025-05-26 03:41
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#32
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United States postwarscars
Somewhat, but the lingering issue with Liquid was that they still had Astralis to contend with. Vitality has absolutely no one who was better than them since they've gone on their streak. The only team that beat them was Aurora and that was right after they picked up ropz. That said, the chances of them choking at the major feel kind of high regardless of how good they've been. I'm not saying it'll happen, but I wouldn't be shocked.
2025-05-26 06:34
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Switzerland kmbl
Yeah but if its true and they didnt open their napoleon tactic book then its joever for their opponents idk but everything can happen.
2025-05-26 07:39
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Oh, bro, please…. You’ve been playing your “A” game for awhile now! Enjoy the win !
2025-05-26 03:44
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enemy teams also play a lot worse when versing vitality BUT LIKE ALWAYS S+ GAMEPLAY FROM XIWU IS ALL THATS NEEDED FOR VITALITY ROSTER TO HAVE A CAREER
2025-05-26 04:33
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not to mention, the addition of ropz once again elevates a team from being good to being absolute contender/trophy tier for at least the first period of his arrival.
2025-05-26 10:17
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based chad
2025-05-26 05:51
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They playing mind games. They say we didn't play our A game and everyone falls for it. Do you understand now why they keep talking about mental part of the game? This is their A game. No one can keep same form too long. Opponents closing the gap. That's why they so afraid and keep telling these lies.
2025-05-26 07:29
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You can tell the lie to yourself but public it is a PR shitshow
2025-05-26 07:30
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Opponents closing gaps yet the grand final is 3-0. They didn't play their A-Game probably means that they are saving their best strats and secret weapons for the Major. This tournament is pure skills and individual efforts.
2025-05-26 08:36
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Norway 39c0
teams are closing gaps tho MOUZ is a bot team that anyone could have steamrolled, yet vita almost lost to the Mongols, with the Mongolz winning more rounds in the 3 maps than vitality did 33:34 and almost losing to the falcons, winning only 1 more round than they did in the series, 33:32. the cracks are there and if other teams can find them the ZywOo meat riders are gonna cry when prettyboy loses
2025-05-28 21:09
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France Khmzbg
Its clear that they werent on their top level that being said when he says we didnt play our A game that doesnt mean they were trash just not top level, they had some really bad maps like that Train it looked like they didnt prepare it at all, all their strats on T side were just crossing the smokes and hoping that the ennemy wont be there.
2025-05-26 10:43
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S1mple would never trash talk the enemies like that
2025-05-26 07:30
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#46
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molodoy | 
Kazakhstan aqua4kz
yes, he would trash talk his teammates.
2025-05-26 09:03
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That is what a GOAT does. Demands the same hard work from his team m8s
2025-05-26 09:05
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s1mple would never win 6 events in a row therefore he couldnt even trashtalk even if he tried.
2025-05-26 11:57
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Just an echo chamber of the French fans & band wagoneers. Feels bad for cs2 scene.
2025-05-26 08:26
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cs2 is dead now valve should nerf vitality
2025-05-26 08:40
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ez4vita
2025-05-26 09:07
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#53
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apEX | 
France labuche
this is not normally
2025-05-26 09:22
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Prepare to be humbled
2025-05-26 09:23
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#59
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Estonia LfLion
I think they have been prepared for 5 months now , there is no team that can beat them
2025-05-26 11:04
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There is just teams that can challenge you. Its fact. You play wells, mouz play wells.
2025-05-26 11:24
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goat
2025-05-26 11:54
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30-0 in 2025 with mr12 is insane as hell
2025-05-26 12:51
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mzinho | 
World clipse
LeCoasting
2025-05-26 15:34
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#76
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Germany Hund45
in other words EZ for us
2025-05-26 16:47
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#79
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Russia I_D_R_C
just need more vacation
2025-05-26 22:03
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