Valve removes multi-region representation in VRS model update

Teams will now only appear on a single VRS list.

Valve has released an update to the Valve Regional Standings model, which now means that multi-regional teams will now appear on just one VRS list.

"Updating regional representation so teams only appear on a single VRS list. In the case of a tie, the team is assigned to the stronger of the two regions," the changelog reads.

The change follows an earlier update to the Major Supplemental Rulebook, which addressed how a team's Major region is defined and how invitations are handled for teams with equal representation across multiple regions.

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Valve enforces Major regional representation for multi-regional teams

Previously, if a team had no three-man majority and there was a tie between two regions, that team could choose which region they would represent. The change meant that they are automatically assigned to the stronger of the two regions, which will now be reflected in the VRS standings as well.

Teams such as Wildcard and Liquid, which have a split majority between Americas and Europe, will now appear only on the European regional ranking list, as the region is currently the strongest, i.e., it has the most Major spots.

#1
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Australia birko_bird
good change
2025-06-17 11:00
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#135
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Germany Sol1taire
W update from volvo
2025-06-17 15:12
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RiP Wildcard + Liquid
2025-06-17 11:01
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Nvm israel is eu not asia my bad
2025-06-17 11:03
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Nertz, siuhy, ultimate > twistzz, NAF 3-2 EU
2025-06-17 11:03
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2 EU/2 NA/1 AS i'd imagine so since EU is the strongest region they are officially a european team, or 3 EU/2 NA. i don't know how valve interprets israel
2025-06-17 11:04
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Yea yea, just realized this. Honestly they should remove ultimate to gain the NA spot back because they are going to get cooked whenever they play EU rmr
2025-06-17 11:06
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it's going to be hard for liquid to replace both NAF and ultimate with NA counterparts, won't be surprised if they go full EU at this point cause who do you even pick up to AWP from NA xd
2025-06-17 11:11
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they could also pick asian awp and na rifle
2025-06-17 14:14
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Or, you know, pick players from SA
2025-06-17 15:38
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try might actually be a really good pickup for liquid
2025-06-17 21:20
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there are no rmr, if they aren't in like top16 eu (smthing like this depending on how many spots eu gets for next major), they'll be invited to stage1/2/3 depending on vrs
2025-06-17 11:12
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If they make this change and then not adjust major slots its gonna be a shitshow, suddenly all top us teams are eu teams and we get world 100 us team at major.
2025-06-17 11:34
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#41
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Latvia denychz
To be honest how the preformed this major, idk if they would pass stage 1, staying in eu with this roster will kill any chances at decent runs in any s tier tournaments
2025-06-17 11:41
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#147
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United States PlankCS
Yeah this change will force them to commit to Americas. The one time they dipped their toes into going full European with Patsi and Rainwaker, it was a disaster. Ever since then they've kept to having two Americas, two EU, and one Asian player on the roster. Now they can't really do that.
2025-06-17 16:43
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RMR and MRQs don't exist anymore, no more qualification
2025-06-17 11:42
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#193
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Sweden SavageSven
Israel is Asia/MENA, just like its neighbors like Jordan and Lebanon, obviously...
2025-06-17 21:58
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#56
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Poland neXt7
How tf Israel is EU when it’s from west Asia?
2025-06-17 11:52
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#111
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Israel RickNRoll
Israel is indeed Asia you are not wrong
2025-06-17 13:37
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Maybe as Israelian you can explain why you are EU, no offence.
2025-06-17 20:15
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Huh did valve put israel as eu now? Because israel is still asia according to valve
2025-06-17 12:04
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#74
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Israel RoyBenji
They didn’t, we’re Asia, people already forgot drillas?!
2025-06-17 12:25
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#112
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Israel RickNRoll
Israel is Asia not EU
2025-06-17 13:38
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Lol you really need to look at a map if you think Israel is EU 😂😂😂
2025-06-17 14:25
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I don't think that lol
2025-06-17 15:53
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#36
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Netherlands Korra
yup Liquid crying rn
2025-06-17 11:31
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#68
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Poland Saruman69
so it's definitely -naf now
2025-06-17 12:06
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So they go full europe? Didn't Twistzz want to be more in NA?
2025-06-17 12:07
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#70
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Poland Saruman69
if tl now belong to eu vrs they don't have to keep na core
2025-06-17 12:10
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no but if they kick ultimate and sign nqz or other american awper they are back being an american team
2025-06-17 12:32
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#78
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Poland Saruman69
ya they can add 1 na to be na region. question is who can they add? for sure not awp because there's no na awp.
2025-06-17 12:35
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it does not have to be NA, brazilians or other SA players count as well. they either have to keep 3 Americas players all the time OOOR get 2 asian players 2 american players & siuhy. siuhy heavygod nertz twistzz nqz would be an american team on VRS
2025-06-17 12:38
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#84
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Poland Saruman69
yes, but be realistic and show me who can they get. cuz nqz and heavygod are out of reach maybe heni xd
2025-06-17 12:42
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Why is nqz out of reach? G2 can turn down cash but can paiN? Other option saadzin from legacy. Could take a rifler from them for NAF too.
2025-06-17 14:11
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#149
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United States PlankCS
Pain is actually making moves to compete. They aren't a feeder team. They're actually one of the biggest SA esports orgs with millions of fans. Making the major and getting into the playoffs is more worthwhile than selling off their players.
2025-06-17 16:50
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#152
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United States TacticalSanta
I mean pain players have become open because they actively try to improve their roster.
2025-06-17 16:53
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#155
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United States PlankCS
Yeah, but they aren't a feeder team like he's suggesting. He's saying that Liquid could just hand them a bunch of cash and be off on their merry way which I don't agree with. Unless Pain has a better awper in mind, they aren't going to get rid of nqz. Not to mention, if a better option does exist, Liquid should just pursue him themselves
2025-06-17 16:59
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#157
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United States TacticalSanta
Liquid isn't really in the business of signing players that have never reached tier 1 lan playoffs (with a few exceptions like rainwaker and ultimate), I highly doubt they would scout an awper from brazil with any success. Like if they managed to find molodoy they'd probably be in playoffs rn.
2025-06-17 17:05
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If I'm nqz I stay in Pain tbh. Dgt is still relatively new to the roster and I think they can be better than they are rn, especially if there's some SA talent up for grabs after the major to replace Snow. Liquid are not a well managed org and there's less chance of success there considering Liquid haven't done anything noteworthy for a long time.
2025-06-17 17:11
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what makes you think that ?
2025-06-17 12:39
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I agree they likely go -naf +europe Only other option is -ultimate +american/asian AWP and I don't see any good options there
2025-06-17 12:41
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#88
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Belgium oLibao
+910 ?
2025-06-17 12:49
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I'd like that but I don't know how good his english is
2025-06-17 12:50
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#91
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Belgium oLibao
Yeah would be a risky move for both parties
2025-06-17 12:55
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that is good
2025-06-17 11:01
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#4
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Taiwan HouseTyrell
told you
2025-06-17 11:02
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Nice
2025-06-17 11:02
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#6
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Turkey 3bouss
Good decision for NA abusers
2025-06-17 11:02
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#8
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Chile Milkykappa
W
2025-06-17 11:02
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good one
2025-06-17 11:03
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ig no reason to get an NA player for liquid now
2025-06-17 11:03
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#75
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Israel RoyBenji
For da culture
2025-06-17 12:25
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-NAF +fvlion
2025-06-17 13:28
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#197
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United States cybonics
They haven't had culture since the nitr0 osee roster
2025-06-18 01:38
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Maybe Liquid finally kick NAF
2025-06-17 11:03
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RIP LIQUID
2025-06-17 11:03
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liquid get fucked lol
2025-06-17 11:03
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I think it is the opposite, they could get a good anchor player from around the world not only NA
2025-06-17 11:11
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#150
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United States PlankCS
No that's the last thing they'd do. They know they can't create a competitive roster in Europe which is why they only went all the way once to terrible results. I fully expect them to go either Americas or half Americas and half Asia
2025-06-17 16:52
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Makes sense
2025-06-17 11:04
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So, are the invites now going to be 1st 32 teams no matter the region or ?
2025-06-17 11:05
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no this is not related to the major invites, it just means that a 2 EU / 2 AM / 1 AS team will be EU because it's the stronger region
2025-06-17 11:07
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Oh im dumb, i read 'teams will appear on a single list' and combined with no mrqs announcement earlier i thought it is related. Thanks Good change
2025-06-17 11:10
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F to sonic. If there was any chance he wasn't getting kicked for peeping before now he is so wildcard can keep that Americas region.
2025-06-17 11:05
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Kicking susp also allows them to build a full NA core. They just have to make the call now who is going for Peeping.
2025-06-17 11:44
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rolewise is sonic :(
2025-06-17 12:00
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Writing on the wall is Sonic if you read any of the interviews during major. He already had 1 foot out the door.
2025-06-17 14:30
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#20
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Denmark coachdp
Could this make Wildcard and Liquid change specifically for this case? Who would you even get to become NA?
2025-06-17 11:07
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Just sign stewie for 3 days again
2025-06-17 13:37
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Wildcard was going US majority anyway since they're dropping Sonic and adding Peeping
2025-06-17 14:28
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source
2025-06-17 14:56
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2 replies
2025-06-17 15:14
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so Peeping is better or nah?
2025-06-17 15:20
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#191
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United States ripeanime
liquid (or wildcard but probably not given +peeping being all but confirmed and SA buyouts being insane) might poach a player or two from legacy given they already play in NA and had their cinderella run
2025-06-17 21:56
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Mark my words. Liquid will go asian majority. -NAF +JKS, -ULTIMATE +JEE. also wildcard will go majority american, +peeping
2025-06-17 11:08
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Now NA teams will have to have NA players, it’s so over for NA
2025-06-17 11:08
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PwnAlone and ben1337 will be getting offers when they're both 50 years old atp
2025-06-17 11:59
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#130
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Poland BAN_ANIME
respect young talent pwnalone
2025-06-17 15:04
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They could always get a brazilian
2025-06-17 13:01
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Didn’t work for Liquid
2025-06-17 13:23
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#24
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Poland Oerrty
gg wildcard
2025-06-17 11:09
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Unbelivable scenes
2025-06-17 11:09
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#30
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India ssj4
Rip Naf
2025-06-17 11:12
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#31
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Korea Yuki25
The era of racist teams dawns upon us. I'm sure Launders is very happy with this one
2025-06-17 11:18
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-NAF +jks
2025-06-17 11:22
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#33
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China colldex
NAF bye bye
2025-06-17 11:27
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Liquid are so cooked
2025-06-17 11:29
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They already went 0-3 how much more can they be cooked?
2025-06-17 11:45
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If they are forced to qualify through Europe and keep playing like that, they'll struggle to even get into stage 1 to go 0-3.
2025-06-17 11:47
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#60
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World waltsuu
liquid should be making it anyway so shouldnt affect them much its teams like wildcard who have no chance beeing top15 in eu that needs the na spot
2025-06-17 11:58
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If they continue playing like they have in the last few events, they'll definitely struggle to hold on to their spot over time. I'm simply assuming they will do what they do best and make changes but make their roster worse in the process too.
2025-06-17 12:00
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liquid aren't as good as people think this year they're just holding on because their points haven't decayed yet
2025-06-17 12:14
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There are no more qualifiers, it's all going to be VRS based. Liquid was 11th in the European VRS standings, so they would have made it anyway
2025-06-17 21:49
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I'm not sure if you read or interpreted what I said there wrong, but my comments have nothing to do with this major, I'm saying if they continue being shit, they'll struggle to qualify in the future if they get placed in the EU VRS ranking.
2025-06-18 10:31
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I don't think they are as bad as you're saying. siuhy was added two months ago and they have been doing okay. Sure they went 0-3 but it was two Bo1's and a very close loss to MOUZ, it's not the worst thing if you look at it calmly
2025-06-18 17:20
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#97
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United States celtek
How? Now they can get actual talent instead of relying on weak ass NA players. +Tnir +broky incoming
2025-06-17 13:08
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Because Liquid never really make good roster moves since 2019, sometimes they seem to get lucky like getting NertZ, but for every NertZ they will sign at least a rainwaker and an ultimate which sets them back more than they gained on that one good transfer.
2025-06-17 16:42
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true lmao. patsi/rainwaker/yekindar was a true tier 1 lineup lmao
2025-06-17 16:49
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It still leaves me baffled as how no one in the management team got shitcanned for signing off on those transfers.
2025-06-17 16:52
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it was a truly dark time for liquid fans liquid haters were feasting though
2025-06-17 16:55
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Doesn't that just made the Wildcard problem ten times worse? Previously an split team wouldn't have an incentive to pull a Wildcard unless they were in exactly Wildcard's situation. Higher ranking teams like Liquid would always get the favourable region so they had no incentive to game the system. Now it be incentivised whenever a manipulation of their region would improve which stage they can qualify for which also makes it an issue for big teams. I guess it would mean that Wildcard would have been forced to play with Stewie2k but why should they care when the important thing is making it to the major and getting the sticker money and actually winning matches is secondary.
2025-06-17 11:29
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#124
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United States MrNorwood
This change impacts VRS invites for all events now, do you really think these teams are constantly going to bring in stand-ins to get invites for random events?
2025-06-17 14:42
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221 NA teams will now have to add 3rd NA player or abandon NA entirely which is the much more likely option. that plus no more MRQ, which was split NA and SA, means that were gonna see much less NA representation. myb a hot take, but im not a fan
2025-06-17 11:34
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tbf most of those foreigners actually live in NA long term so they'll prob be able to get a special case
2025-06-17 11:49
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#154
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United States TacticalSanta
time to start getting mexican citizenship
2025-06-17 16:56
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#125
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United States MrNorwood
Liquid and Wildcard are the only major teams impacted by this. There are several foreign majority teams that live and play in NA, but they are not impacted by this because they were already ineligible for Americas VRS invites and almost entirely play in open qualifiers.
2025-06-17 14:45
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If these NA teams disband, then the scarce amount of NA talent can actually form a team worthy of getting invites to the major perhaps
2025-06-17 17:25
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people say Liquid is cooked, but they would change the region to EU anyway I would rather say that Wilcard has the problem
2025-06-17 11:40
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#54
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Australia Tingas
I think Liquid deliberately wanted to stay NA, thats why jks was benched instead of NAF
2025-06-17 11:50
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yeah, but now after recent Major it's 99% that NAF will be benched and there are not any decent options for Liquid in NA, so they need to sign someone from EU
2025-06-17 12:56
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#103
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Australia Tingas
yeah well now regardless of who they sign they will be EU
2025-06-17 13:29
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Wildcard was already planning on going majority NA with Peeping instead of Sonic. That's been 99% confirmed for the past month.
2025-06-17 14:29
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okay, nice to know
2025-06-17 15:27
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#42
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New Zealand Skye620
ig liquid can get whoever they want now
2025-06-17 11:41
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hmmm, not sure about this... it's technically good to have just the top teams, but that might be very bad for t2-t3 teams in non eu regions that are trying to rise up.
2025-06-17 11:42
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It's basically: A. Simplification (although looks more cluttery) B. 2-2-1 teams are automatically EU > Americas > Asia concurrently depending on the number of spots collected by each region.
2025-06-17 11:46
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isnt na and sa divided?
2025-06-17 11:49
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#86
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Europe nekker
No
2025-06-17 12:46
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No. That subregion thing was for MRQ only because it was online and for representation, but the direct invites to stage 2 and 3 weren't divided like that. And for local lower tier tournaments that want to invite only their local teams
2025-06-17 12:53
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if those teams have majority of eu player why could they be qualifying in na and take spots from teams trying to build an na scene? it's bad for t2/t3 teams who rely on imports from different regions
2025-06-17 11:49
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Peak laziness from valve for hosting their rulebook and rankings on GitHub They are not serious about counter strike at all
2025-06-17 11:48
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#50
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Poland exaylo
that just confirms that liquid will get rid off Naf
2025-06-17 11:48
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#55
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Poland M4rko90
-NAF +reck -ultimate +phzy
2025-06-17 11:50
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They wouldnt pick up reck just to go EU. They will pick up whoever gets dropped from Falcons to replace NAF
2025-06-17 17:29
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Just invite top32 teams in vrs no matter what region theyre
2025-06-17 11:54
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a rare W from Valve now just split Americas into SA and NA we don't share the same servers we're not the same region
2025-06-17 12:04
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#80
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Brazil hugoooo
They would never expose their homeland like that hahaha
2025-06-17 12:37
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#126
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United States MrNorwood
With the MRQs going away, why would you want that now? SA has a chance to take more of the 6 guaranteed spots via the ranking than if they were divided evenly between NA and SA.
2025-06-17 14:48
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SA would have more spots than NA after 1 Major
2025-06-17 15:10
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#134
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United States MrNorwood
Not of the guaranteed spots though. At this point SA could basically dominate all of the major spots via the ranking, if you split the regions NA would get 3 guaranteed spots at every major.
2025-06-17 15:12
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Valve is an American company. They would just rewrite the rules if there was any chance of this happening
2025-06-17 21:51
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That just ensures that NA teams make the major which idk if thats what you are arguing for lmao. If they combine NA and SA then if SA is truly better they will take all of the slots, so you should be happy about this change
2025-06-17 17:31
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#59
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Other Darge
Liquid could get rid of NAF or get Junior(?) and stay in NA, either way they're cooked.
2025-06-17 11:57
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#71
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Spain ousi
-ultimate +Junior is an upgrade tbf.
2025-06-17 12:12
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#99
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Greece her-1g
Lel that junior that played with coL?
2025-06-17 13:24
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#131
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Poland BAN_ANIME
he isn't though also yes, flag i know
2025-06-17 15:07
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#61
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Australia strikebacK
Basing off peoples comments... Canada doesn't count as NA? RIP NAF?
2025-06-17 11:59
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#127
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United States MrNorwood
Canada is definitely in NA and more importantly in the Americas, but the sentiment seems to be that he is on the chopping block and that Liquid will abandon NA (again).
2025-06-17 14:50
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FINALLY! LFG!!!!!
2025-06-17 12:03
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tbf i dont rly understand if you just invite based on VRS points why even differentiate between regions, like just invite the first 32 teams and split them up based on their VRS points into the seperate stages.
2025-06-17 12:04
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Because differentiating regions keeps the game being worldwide. Especially that they really want to make CS bigger in Asia, and mainly China. If you keep these region restrictions, it's a factor for orgs from these countries to move forward with CS. Otherwise, you just kill the potential in these areas
2025-06-17 12:30
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#156
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United States TacticalSanta
people think we need Rebels at every major or something, when the team is never going to win or hell get far at a major until they actually get enough VRS points to make it with the current rules. having the absolute top 32 teams would include more EU teams and less teams like Chinngus, but teams 28-32 aren't really going to win the major anyway, if Lynn vision and tyloo can place better than metizsport whats the issue with having more variety and still basically every top 16 team there.
2025-06-17 17:00
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So you decided to read my entire message and not understand a single word I said and reply anyway?
2025-06-17 17:10
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You truly never know how a team will perform at the major my guy. Legacy didnt even qualify and they almost made playoffs lmao. Its very possible one of those 28-32 teams makes a cinderella run that defines the major in a way
2025-06-17 17:35
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-naf +xfloud
2025-06-17 12:13
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#79
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Brazil hugoooo
10 mins later: "NAF retires"
2025-06-17 12:37
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NAF is cooked
2025-06-17 12:43
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#87
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Portugal VeiN13
What that means? Can someone explain me?
2025-06-17 12:47
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teams that don't have a predominant region like Liquid and Wildcard (2 NA players and 2 EU players) become EU teams until then they were considered EU/NA teams and could choose where to play *now they become EU, just because Europe has more guaranteed spots, this avoids this cheating of stealing spots from weaker regions
2025-06-17 12:59
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#95
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Scotland TWGKofi
Oh that's a W
2025-06-17 13:04
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What if 2 americas 2 asia will they still have to theoretically (because that combo will never get close to a major) get an eu spot?
2025-06-17 13:30
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AM/AS teams (2 Americas + 2 Asia) will now be just AM, because Americas has more spots than Asia
2025-06-17 13:34
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Ah ok 👍
2025-06-17 13:35
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When they have 2 Americas and 2 Asia players they will go into the America region (because it is "stronger" than Asia). They wouldn't stay in EU.
2025-06-17 13:39
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This also means if Furia replaces another one of their Brazilian players with someone from outside the Americas, they will become an EU team.
2025-06-17 21:53
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#96
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United States celtek
Now liquid can stop pretending to be NA lmao
2025-06-17 13:06
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#128
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United States MrNorwood
Yes, it will be sad if they leave the region entirely, but I think this is a win for NA fans.
2025-06-17 14:52
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it is because any team that wants to farm NA now actually needs to invest in NA talents
2025-06-17 15:26
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#100
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland M1K120
Rare Valve W
2025-06-17 13:28
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#101
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Romania nontoxic
now wildcard benches phzy
2025-06-17 13:28
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1 reply
its already -Sonic +Peeping
2025-06-17 17:36
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liq +stew2k
2025-06-17 13:30
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gg
2025-06-17 13:32
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surely theres no reason to not get rid of naf now for liquid... right? inb4 -ultimate +junior
2025-06-17 13:34
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#114
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
wildcard and liquid abusers OWNED
2025-06-17 13:45
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Wildcard were not even abusers though. they were fucked by Sonic, a NA product through and through, not counting as that just because he was born in South Africa
2025-06-17 16:42
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Can he get citizenship in NA and switch? Or is it always just country of birth
2025-06-17 17:37
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I believe citizenship would work, because Hadji being a French-Moroccan dual citizen was part of the Drillas trick (he was not counted as EU player, which made them eligible to the Asia qualifiers with the 2 Israelis), but I'm not 100% sure
2025-06-17 17:54
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#115
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Korea garukno
Nice, what's the point having separate region ranking anyway
2025-06-17 13:46
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Game is boring if everyone is ranked in one master list. Even t3 EU teams will be ahead of some NA/SA teams
2025-06-17 17:56
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Now we never seeing wildcard at a major again... until sonic gets dropped
2025-06-17 13:54
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something something drillas ohne and na cs
2025-06-17 14:05
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This is great for SA HUGE W
2025-06-17 15:09
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This literally only benefits EU/CIS teams. There are only 4 SA teams in the top 32 of VRS, and 6 attended this major. I'm worried that more talented Asia and Americas based teams will miss out on the next major, simply because there are more low-tier events to grind in Europe.
2025-06-17 15:55
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You didn't understand the new rule... It's not the TOP 32 that goes straight to the Major for the next Major there'll be 16 spots for Europe, 10 for Americas and 6 for Asia the difference is that all spots will be by VRS ranking, without MRQ
2025-06-17 16:37
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I wish they could split NA and SA, honestly. NA gonna get another bunch of bad teams in there just because it's for the whole Americas, it's so stupid
2025-06-17 17:12
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wdym? If they split NA and SA then that means that NA teams are guaranteed spots in the major... If they combine NA and SA and if SA is truly that much better than NA, they should in theory absorb all of the slots by higher ranked teams since they do a lot better internationally
2025-06-17 17:42
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#171
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United States webchilla
Which SA team was blocked by NA that is significantly better than the NA teams that made it? The runner ups in the SA MRQ were Oddik, Sharks, and Bestia. M80, Wildcard, and COL absolutely wrecks them. Even NRG has a decent chance. They went flawless against sharks at frag before they even had Br0.
2025-06-17 17:52
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Now is only rank, and have 7SA Teams and 3 NA, because liquid and wildcard are europe now. But is unfair because NA tournaments give more points than Sa.
2025-06-17 17:52
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#177
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United States webchilla
I'm not against splitting the regions if that's what people want. Just saying for Austin I think the right teams made it.
2025-06-17 18:03
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No, Wildcard is replacing one of their EU players with an NA player. They will retain NA status Liquid can do whatever they want because even in EU they would still qualify (currently 11th in the EU rankings, and there are 16 EU spots). The only caveat is, if Liquid were EU they would start in stage 2 instead of stage 3
2025-06-17 21:56
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I won't lie, that NA part, it's just me being a hater.
2025-06-17 20:03
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Oh, gotcha
2025-06-17 18:43
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NA abusers begone.
2025-06-17 16:17
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#158
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Moldova OptimusBlyad
Long have we waited Liquid eliminated
2025-06-17 17:09
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#163
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United States webchilla
NAF just got sentenced to 2000 more years of Twistzz Liquid Hell
2025-06-17 17:27
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sentenced to free salary farming
2025-06-18 13:30
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It’s unfair that South American tournaments are worth less than North American ones. SA teams have been proving their strength and consistently outperforming NA teams in the region, so the disparity in value and recognition doesn’t reflect the current competitive reality. Even more so now, since only teams with a majority core from the Americas will be considered. This makes it even more unfair that SA tournaments are valued less, especially when SA teams have been carrying the region competitively. If the invites for the next Major were given out right now, it would be 7 South American teams and only 3 North American teams. That shows just how dominant SA has become in the Americas — and makes it even harder to justify the current imbalance in tournament value between the two regions.
2025-06-17 17:39
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Maybe SA should start hosting more LANs with better prize money than NA events instead of complaining.
2025-06-17 21:58
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W
2025-06-17 17:49
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I think we should go back to the system where teams — or cores of three players — that reached the playoffs would secure a spot in the next Major. The remaining spots could be distributed through invites based on results, still following the regional rankings. But the 8 spots from the previous Champions Stage should go directly to the teams or cores that earned them. That way, strong performances would be properly rewarded, and we’d avoid punishing regions like SA that are currently outperforming NA but still getting fewer opportunities.
2025-06-17 18:02
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Honestly, that's a valid point. Given they give your VRS rank to a core of at least three, that'd make sense, they'd keep some logic behind that VRS thingy
2025-06-17 20:56
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#179
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United States ripeanime
liquid +(insert dogshit NA awper ((junior ig)) and wildcard +peeping incoming
2025-06-17 18:46
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great change valve
2025-06-17 21:17
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A very balanced response to the fact that one of the minor regions overperformed while the other fell flat
2025-06-17 21:38
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NA in full panic mode lol in case they have to give up their non-na players
2025-06-17 21:47
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#makesonicamerican
2025-06-17 22:09
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damnnn
2025-06-17 22:33
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#196
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United States Spageti
Asia region player stocks going up and up
2025-06-17 22:52
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W change Valve
2025-06-18 02:01
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#199
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Canada minibeech
Old news. They've been doing this all year.
2025-06-18 04:58
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bye lulquid and wc (toilet)
2025-06-18 13:29
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Liquid going European ahead of -NAF
2025-06-18 22:13
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#205
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Korea syjeon
YAY! LETS MAKE THE GAME EVEN MORE EUROCENTRIC NOW! JUST AS ASIA AND SOUTH AMERICA WERE CRAWLING OUT OF HELL! GJ VOLVO!
2025-06-21 17:40
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#206
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Ukraine MATEiNEiGHTX
We fought against partnered teams and we got... basically SAME PARTNERED TEAMS. Congrats, guys!
2025-06-24 06:34
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