Strike #7: What happens if a player qualifies for a Major with two teams?

An unprompted email from Valve cleared up a key question about the new Major roster rules.

FaZe and Liquid avoided disaster after the swap

Strike is a (not so) regular column written by HLTV Editor-in-chief Milan "Striker" Švejda, which focuses on new realities of a Valve-regulated circuit.

A few HLTV Confirmed episodes ago, when talking about the Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski-Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken swap between FaZe and Liquid, we contemplated the implications of the move prior to the StarLadder Major cut-off and what the teams would need to do to make sure they'd be allowed to play with their new lineups in Budapest.

Before this Major cycle, the answer was simple: They'd have to do nothing because teams were allowed to make two changes between the invitation and roster submission deadlines.

But after the BLAST.tv Austin Major, Valve changed the rules to require registered rosters to match the invited ones as they appear on the related Valve Regional Standings, removing the possibility of making any changes to rosters past the point of invitation, other than registering a different coach or substitute.

For Liquid, the situation was all the more complicated because they couldn't register an American substitute due to pre-existing rules that require teams to retain their regional assignment in case of any substitution.

So before the October 6 cut-off, Liquid had to play five matches (the number needed for the VRS to update a roster) with EliGE at Birch Cup and replaced Twistzz on the VRS, while FaZe already played five matches with Jakub "⁠jcobbb⁠" Pietruszewski instead of EliGE at FISSURE Playground 2 before that.

A disaster was avoided, but the situation brought up a crucial question: What would have happened if one of the players ended up on both team rosters, say if FaZe dropped out of FISSURE and couldn't get EliGE off their lineup in time?

I didn't realize the answer until I recently got an unexpected email from Valve about it. It turns out it's not as ambiguous as I first believed.

Here's the email:

"Just wanted to touch on something I heard on Confirmed," — hey, they watch HLTV Confirmed. Who would have thought?

"If a player is a member of several VRS rosters, then only one of those rosters can accept a Major invitation, because 'registered rosters must be intact' and 'registered rosters must match the invited rosters.' We don't see an alternate interpretation of the rules, but if you do then we'd want to hear it, because the above is definitely the intention."

Major supplemental rulebook says:

  • Invitations will be sent to intact rosters

  • If a roster declines an invitation, or is no longer intact, they do not participate in the Major

  • The registered roster must match the invited roster

So, the answer is: One of the teams with a duplicate player would be forced to give up the Major invite.

When I got the email, my first thought was that the stance was extreme. Teams are allowed to register a substitute, after all, and that has served as a way to enact last-minute roster changes in the past, like when Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev came in for Helvijs "⁠broky⁠" Saukants on FaZe and Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis for Felipe "⁠skullz⁠" Medeiros on FURIA before Austin.

But it also makes sense for Valve to take a hard line on Major lineups at a time when the incentive to game the VRS in ways that circumvent core requirements has never been higher, when it now decides invites for the whole circuit.

That is probably why the rule was changed in the first place. I pointed it out to Valve in Austin that it would be possible for a bad actor to play the Major with an entirely new roster. Change two players just in time for them to appear on the invitation ranking, then two more on the roster submission, and substitute out the fifth at the Major and, voilà, you're playing with five players that did not earn their spot.

That would be crazy, right? It was bad enough that some teams abused the substitution to circumvent the majority rule and played the Major with just two out of five eligible players.

Note for accuracy: The above is still theoretically possible now; you just need to make two changes five matches in advance of the invitation ranking.

I ultimately don't have such big qualms with it anymore as long as teams realize the potential downfall of a last-minute swap and play their cards carefully before a Major cut-off.

But I did point out one potential window for abuse of this new rule, which could theoretically allow a team to take their competition out of the Major. Let's say such a bad actor would execute the buyout clause of a player at a time when they can still update their own roster on the ranking, but the targeted team has nothing left to play.

That would result in the player appearing on both rosters, and because the team with the active contract with said player would be the only one capable of turning up with the submitted roster, the targeted team would have to give up their Major spot.

All in all, it is a good thing for Major rosters to adhere to stricter requirements, but it should not come at the cost of one team's actions potentially affecting the fate of another. Is there a solution?

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
2103
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
Brazil Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
903
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.63
Latvia Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1253
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.61
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1938
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1604
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.24
Maps played:
1814
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.63
Poland Jakub 'jcobbb' Pietruszewski
Jakub 'jcobbb' Pietruszewski
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
255
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.70
Insane
2025-10-09 20:36
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Latvia riraie
just play for the team that has the match at that moment and hope those two don't match against each other easy fix
2025-10-09 20:38
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4 replies
thats crazy..
2025-10-09 20:57
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ahahaha imagine
2025-10-09 21:46
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if they match up give the same player 2 pcs and make them play both at the same time
2025-10-10 10:34
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If they match each other play with a coach or 4v4
2025-10-10 10:54
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#3
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Poland FezNY0
LOL
2025-10-09 20:38
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#4
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latto | 
Poland Oerrty
lol
2025-10-09 20:38
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good info to have
2025-10-09 20:40
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#6
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United Kingdom quantum01
Can someone summarise for me
2025-10-09 20:40
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dude its a 2 minute read also if you really need a summary just use AI instead of writing this useless comment
2025-10-09 20:43
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#31
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United Kingdom quantum01
It's a whole bunch of yap to answer "What happens if a player qualifies for a Major with two teams?"
2025-10-09 21:47
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One of those teams is not allowed to go to major at all, not even with a substitute
2025-10-09 23:45
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you took more time waiting to post a reply to that comment than it would have taken to read. Brainrotted
2025-10-10 06:36
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#45
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Greece her-1g
genz cant focus or read even for 1 minute. dont expect anything anymore
2025-10-10 08:26
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Why do you even bother to click on an article if you don ' t plan to read it at all ?
2025-10-09 20:59
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3 replies
I guess to read the comments
2025-10-09 21:03
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#27
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Egypt BomberMan_
HLTV users are unable to read. I had to ask my mom to read this out to me and I didnt understand so I need @kroK to explain this.
2025-10-09 21:24
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1 reply
@gock is this treu?
2025-10-09 21:32
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twitter and other social media has ruined people's focus span to the point that there's undoubtable empirical evidence of it. So whenever text is longer than whatever the twitter's 200 character limit is - that's beyond, their brain expects endorphin hit and a next post. They are actually unable to process, they're not dumb, just trained with so many psychological tricks to consume as much content (and ads) as possible. Ai isn't helping either they way it's being applied. Like I understand that AI summary is good when you are in the rush but overusing it and being unable to summarize it your self is a massive red flag.
2025-10-10 09:35
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I remember allu qualifying for Kato 2015 with ence and then playing the main event with Nip but this is on another level
2025-10-09 20:40
0
2 replies
tldr?
2025-10-10 04:26
2
1 reply
Tldr that hasn't happened, he started to play for ENCE in 2016, after his NiP stint. ENCE wasn't active in 2015 at all.
2025-10-10 10:18
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insane that valve watches hltv confirmed
2025-10-09 20:41
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1 reply
someone there usually is im guessing
2025-10-09 20:57
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another reason why VRS is a complete joke without actual regulations in the scene
2025-10-09 20:41
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4 replies
VRS aint perfect. But it sure is better than louvre agreements that esl blast did. For major, they just need to bring back lan rmr and all is good
2025-10-10 03:33
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#47
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Denmark Not_Dane
Yess, exactly, I hink the RMR was the best, the stakes were so high and it was always hyped up!
2025-10-10 10:05
0
1 reply
I don't know, the LANs in the last two weeks before the major cutoff was pretty fun to follow and 9INE vs Fnatic Fragadelhpia finals was cinema. I wouldn't mind running it back again.
2025-10-10 13:25
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what do you mean, vrs IS the regulation
2025-10-10 23:08
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Im fine with Faze not being at the major
2025-10-09 20:45
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1 reply
Rain alt confirmed?
2025-10-10 13:38
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#12
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Sweden Annoyed_Swede123
crazy, but how do you really patch this? I mean, executing the release clause cant be the selling team's fault
2025-10-09 20:45
2
4 replies
just remove the requirement to have minimum 5 games played as long as theres a valid core hypex would be thrilled
2025-10-09 20:58
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#32
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Wales Hi_Im_New
Future contracts will need to include a clause that the buyout clause is frozen for the month before the major invites roll out. The scene will probably need to adapt in this way
2025-10-09 21:51
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#36
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Norway matsdeff
Yeah, that's a good suggestion.
2025-10-09 23:09
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#44
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Europe kuu1
Frozen like Elsa?
2025-10-10 07:53
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#13
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Kenya pumk1n1
@Grok summarize
2025-10-09 20:50
1
1 reply
Here you go .
2025-10-09 21:01
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#19
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Korea Yuki25
Strike #8: What happens to teams who lost VRS points to teams with players later banned for cheating?
2025-10-09 21:00
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I think that they should have simply kept the old rules, but implemented a region lock when invites went out, regardless of what the submitted rosters were. Its also honestly so stupid that it is becoming a regular occurrence that teams have in-game stickers that don't match their team. I understand plugging up loopholes, but punishing teams/players for very normal roster changes is weird and unnecessary.
2025-10-09 21:11
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They could have still used the new "last 5 games for vrs update" rule, but just implemented it for the invites (and region lock) instead of the roster lock, giving teams more flexibility, but allowing last-minute roster changes. Maybe even making it only 1 roster change, 1 sub, and 1 coach change between invite and roster lock if that's still a concern. Teams could still make 2 changes after invites, but one would have to be a sub
2025-10-09 21:18
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Another Striker Banger!!! Great to have you as part of the CS community!! And to the question you asked in the end: The solution would be a code of conduct and potentially a union of players. But otherwise I think that it is the organization's responsibility to turn up full rosters, not the tournament organizers or valves.
2025-10-09 21:17
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But why Twistzzz with Faze didn't need to have 5 matches? Or is it because of a season that a player needs to play 5 matches???
2025-10-09 21:44
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#33
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Wales Hi_Im_New
Liquid playing 5 matches with Elige "overwrote" Twistzz in Liquids VRS so Twistzz right now is not part of any VRS roster. That makes him eligible to be a substitute for Faze. They did the same with S1mple last major
2025-10-09 21:53
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he was a sub for jacob
2025-10-09 21:53
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#40
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Gux | 
World BIG.
a whole article saying "yes, the rule in the rulebook is the rule"? didn't even think to ask what determines which of the teams have to decline the invite, since obviously neither team would voluntarily do it?
2025-10-10 04:46
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#42
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Wales Hi_Im_New
"and because the team with the active contract with said player would be the only one capable of turning up with the submitted roster, the targeted team would have to give up their Major spot." The old team has to give up the invite since they can't field that player
2025-10-10 07:15
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rel
2025-10-10 11:10
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Solution: allow one roster change after the invitation date. That way a team could get the old player out of their roster.
2025-10-10 11:51
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