SK target Na´Vi capture - Report

A sensational report from Germany suggests that SK Gaming are looking to sign Ukrainian team Natus Vincere.

The revelation was made on ESL TV by commentator Bakr "KinGSaicx" Fadl during the EPS match between Alternate and TBH.ASUS, played last night.

Fadl also claims that reports within EPS teams suggest that mousesports are interested in signining two players from either SK Gaming or Frag eXecutors.

SK have been a four-man team since the departure of Rasmus "Gux" Ståhl to fnatic in the summer, with Andreas "moddii" Fridh brought in to replace him, initially on a temporary basis.

Fridh's impressive displays have made him continue on the team, but there has been no indication from SK as to whether he has signed a deal with them.


Na´Vi on SK Gaming's radar?

Speculation has suggested that changes could be on SK's way, after team manager Dominic "immo" Koller was called in to replace Robert "RobbaN" Dahlström, who is allegedly suffering from food poisoning, in their recent online matches.

Marcus "Delpan" Larsson was yesterday confirmed as Dahlström's replacement at the World e-Sports Masters, a move which has drawn much suspicion as the event is still two weeks away.

Natus Vincere, who have won several titles this year, including the ESWC and WCG, only rely on the support of Kazakh millionaire Murat "Arbalet" Zhumashevich, and could well eye a move to an established organisation, hoping to find some stable support.

In the event of SK Gaming successfully luring Na´Vi into their ranks, the future of the Swedish players look to be in doubt, but mousesports could be willing to offer them an escape route.

#1
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Poland WiLLYwow
No way !
2010-10-21 16:59
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#214
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Sweden tomt1
agree, please noooo ;( really, wtf.
2010-10-21 17:46
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#255
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United States Few
They would have to offer more than Mr. Arbalet I would assume, and I think that is damn near impossible.
2010-10-21 18:00
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#299
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United States jns_kodiii
they won't drop the swedish team, yet anyway, this lineup is representing SK at two tournaments in china, and they just announced Delpan as the stand-in, and i think they have a chance to beat Na`Vi (i hope not) or fnatic and maybe win the tournament..and then what? they would just drop them? SK lineup: i think SK will stay the same, according to what SK site said about the situation involving Na'Vi and not picking them up.. SK|walle SK|moddii SK|RobbaN SK|face SK|allen but if they do get Na`Vi then HAVE them both, otherwise they're ignorant or can't afford it, but i'm pretty sure they can afford it SK.SWEDEN walle SK.SWEDEN moddii SK.SWEDEN RobbaN SK.SWEDEN face SK.SWEDEN allen SK.ua starix SK.ua esenin SK.ua markeloff SK.ua Zeus SK.ua EdwardwOw~ this would be a fucking cash cow for SK NEW mouz lineup : mouz gob b mouz neo mouz roman mouz Loord mouz TIXO that lineup would be godly and i figure the polish boys would may know German and vice versa...more likely to speak German/Polish than the swedes i would leave TaZ outta that lineup because gob b is a better IGL an Fragger imo even though TaZ is amazing, and if gob b and TaZ played together i don't think they would mesh together at all FX would be left with, TaZ, pasha, and kuben or retirement, but they could still be good with FX TaZ FX pasha FX kuben FX ruloN FX drive that would be a nice lineup this is what i'd go with in this situation posted twice, damn
2010-10-21 18:36
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#315
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Poland mki`
First off Neo has been offered spots on German teams in the past with better conditions and he's declined. Although Poles don't hate Germans they don't really like Germany either. It's just one of those things we can't help. If I meet a German I can be kind to him/her and even become great friends with him/her - however I will always root against Germany in the world cup and what not. It's weird... For that reason I highly doubt anyone from Fx would go to mouz.
2010-10-21 19:07
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#330
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Poland prodo
+1
2010-10-21 19:45
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and a certain german somebody killed lots of polish jews xD im just kidding that has nothing to do with it
2010-10-21 20:02
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#340
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Morocco Gun4s
dont think so about the mousesport's part.. how they would get to communicate ? poland and germany dont speak the same language..
2010-10-21 20:18
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#342
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Other roychez
esports isn't a cash cow (yet), no matter how good you are :)
2010-10-21 20:40
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Portugal outlaw-__-
mouz|delpan :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO they do need an awper :] i doubt itll happen though
2010-10-21 21:26
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Estonia Saintik
holy shit :OOOO
2010-10-21 16:59
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North Macedonia lizard;tw
omg
2010-10-21 17:00
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Argentina nicobjrkn
food poisoning WTF! PD: markeloff hahahahhaha
2010-10-21 17:01
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India kaba
what >??
2010-10-21 17:00
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#6
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Poland HDpl
why ukrainians should leave NaVi ? they got a lot of $$$ from Arbalet
2010-10-21 17:00
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Argentina nicobjrkn
+30000000, i think SK want some money hahahha
2010-10-21 17:02
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#85
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Russia groov1k
i agree why they should leave?? SK can promise good money for navi but then to cheat & dont pay any salaries as they dit with Gux and Tentpole. No trust to this organisation
2010-10-21 17:17
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#210
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Netherlands tyr010
like said in the newspost, its better to have a stable organisation rathen then just money from 1 person, although he has enough money
2010-10-21 17:46
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#212
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Sweden stefwe
because Gux didnt even have a contract so he didnt get the money
2010-10-21 17:46
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#225
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Sweden layer1337
Well maybe they should make sure to have signed contracts ... idiot**
2010-10-21 17:48
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#229
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Russia groov1k
burn in hell twats
2010-10-21 17:50
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#276
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Kazakhstan mastak
Yeah that's true. It is obvious to say that any organization would want to have team like navi in it, I won't be surprised if even fnatic's management were sometime dreaming about "Yeah, that would be nice if we had these guys". Concerning SK, their achivements and gamelevel had significantly dropped since khrystal left the team and the team is in trouble with the unstable roster. To change such conditions SK want to find some guys, which would compete on the world champs and moreover would be at least a top3 team. So it is not a secret that SK are viewing Na'Vi team as one of the main contender. We all know who these guys today are, they are at least 2nd or even 1st for today with fnatic (depends on the day the are meeting). Likewise SK is aiming to acquire these team, Na'Vi will definitely will make the SK dreams come true, Na'Vi will bring back times when SK teg was placed on top of many biggest championships like it was in the far past when there were Heaton, Fisker, Spawn and many others. What SK gaming can offer Na'Vi: 1) One of the best options for training. 2) Well organization( in terms of time managemetns and other tricky questions. 3) Salary. 4) Participation on any champ they want. and the last one but not the least 6) Brand and promotion - these last reason is almost the main aspect why every modern cs player want to be in this team. Player will be the part of the legendary team of modern cs with all its priveleges. When cs player write SK teg before its nick it definetely adds pride to his self-esteem. Plus they will have e-site with all the fan clubs and private blogs of the players. Furthermore, players can have contracts with big IT and other companies to be an endorser, these also adds some positive feelings like "now your game is very serious )". What about Arbalet sponsoring, it provided less amount of offers and the organization is less developed in terms of e-site, brand image and company contracts. HOWEVER, Arbalet is person who first believed in Ukrainian guys and helped them in bringing this unbelievable team to the top of cs scene. He made many investments in it by buying equipment and devices, by renting the appartments for them and paying players the salary. It's interesting to note that he made all these expneses for no type of benefit or profit, he just wanted to help that talented guys from CIS and to upbring the level of cs in the region. Honestly speaking Arbalet just love this team and he spend big part of heart for them. (In terms of realtionship, not in terms of money, he has infinitive amount of money on his bank account ))) ). So summing up all the offers for NAvi, for me it obviously to say that " Even if SK have a lot of offers for Na'Vi and it looks like it is a jump on a very high professional level of cs, Na'vi should just ignore all this speculations and stay simple Ukrainian wonder with original wondering clan Teg "NA'VI" nad millions of fans. Because thousands of people like they way you are now and any change into another big commercial project would it be complexity, fnatic, SK, mtw, fx or whatever this will change dramatically, you will lose your distinction, trust me. What about organization, I mean contract, e-site and many other, this will come in future, the main thing is desire and money. And as we know Arbalet have a desire and MONEY, BIG MOENY )))))
2010-10-21 18:10
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#285
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Poland Mt0b1
Amen, +ininity
2010-10-21 18:14
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#286
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Denmark nsis
Oh my god, wall of text...
2010-10-21 18:14
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#327
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cleMeNz0 | 
Denmark cleMeNz0
haha shit ! nice comment ;D
2010-10-21 19:29
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#354
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Peru DarkTempus
omg, +1 if u didnt read this.
2010-10-21 23:03
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#359
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Brazil amark
yeah right like im going to read this! omfg
2010-10-22 00:30
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#365
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United States mah9
only thing you need to realize is, that when you play for a big organization like SK, fnatic, EG, mouz, etc... you will have to do a ton of sponsor promotion and traveling, and a lot more responsibilities come that might not be ideal for a practice schedule. Na`Vi right now have salary, a lan setup to play at in their apartment, an amazing LAN center extremely close, and they can do all the traveling they want to tournaments. So they have the combo package of the money and perks of being a pro-gamer with less of the responsibilities, leaving much more time for uninterrupted practice.
2010-10-22 03:53
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#376
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Serbia svrlE
my head hurts:/
2010-10-23 14:31
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#378
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Egypt kareembit
Have you been studying for this comment?
2010-10-23 20:17
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#379
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Kazakhstan mastak
No man, just wrote shit from my feelings
2010-10-23 20:45
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Kazakhstan maD_doGGeR
True, True...
2010-10-21 17:13
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#136
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Europe suicide'
kingsaicx pointed out that there were no arbalet events in the last few month, maybe he lost interest in investing his money in cs?
2010-10-21 17:29
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#138
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Russia razor~
Arbalet pays them smth like 1000$ per month, not so much :\
2010-10-21 17:29
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#157
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Poland ninus
1000$ per month is not so much??!?!?!?
2010-10-21 17:32
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#163
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Russia razor~
they live in the big city u know, its not a country
2010-10-21 17:35
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#175
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Poland ninus
so? it's still enough to live, adding also all prizes from events
2010-10-21 17:37
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#204
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Russia razor~
r u living in Africa?
2010-10-21 17:44
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#257
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Poland ninus
I dont know how in Russia, but in Poland it would be very good salary to rent a flat, for food and still got something to keep and spent on fun
2010-10-21 18:00
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#273
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United Kingdom hArdLad
They're not in poland, are they?
2010-10-21 18:09
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#287
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Poland ninus
no, but I dont think they have much different in Ukraine
2010-10-21 18:14
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#292
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Poland proteryan
actually 1000$ in UA is much more than in Poland.
2010-10-21 18:17
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#192
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North Macedonia kIRIL1g
and SK has around 2k in euros maybe :)
2010-10-21 17:40
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#261
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Poland ninus
if they pay it...
2010-10-21 18:02
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#358
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Russia [w_Maker]
No, I think they have higher salary. It's 1,5-2k minimum, after WCG it could get even higher.
2010-10-22 00:30
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#185
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Poland Lanvin
1,000$ is not so much? haahha Remember its just fucking game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2010-10-21 17:38
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#203
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Russia razor~
It's their job, man.
2010-10-21 17:44
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#160
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Poland ninus
remember Murat can any time just stop sponsor them, because of getting bored of esport of whatever other reason
2010-10-21 17:33
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#206
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Australia davestr1zl
that'd be no different than if SK decided to drop them for any reason at any time
2010-10-21 17:45
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#264
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Poland ninus
but in SK they would have contracts
2010-10-21 18:03
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#241
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Kazakhstan murik3
Not millioner, billioner! Think...
2010-10-21 17:53
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#305
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Estonia alakk
billioner as in rubla´´?
2010-10-21 18:39
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#350
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Libya mNc1
billioner as in building a $40.000.000 amusement park and giving it to a city as a gift.
2010-10-21 22:11
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#355
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Estonia alakk
sounds like a billioner for me. I rest my case :D
2010-10-21 23:08
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#360
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Russia [w_Maker]
prooflink may be?
2010-10-22 00:34
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#380
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Kazakhstan maD_doGGeR
everyone in Kz knows that go and see this park yourself
2011-02-15 18:13
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United States ph63nix
Incoming storm!
2010-10-21 17:01
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#8
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Finland IkkieH
wtf :o
2010-10-21 17:01
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Sweden triggerrr
awesome
2010-10-21 17:01
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Latvia TOMSONiJS
crap, rumours.
2010-10-21 17:02
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Latvia senj0r
ololololo
2010-10-21 17:02
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But what will happen to the current SK lineup then? ;(
2010-10-21 17:02
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#88
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Latvia h3ro1n
Pretty sure nothing. It will be like it is. The bad thing is that , RobbaN won't play at WEM. I think he can heal in two weeks and be ready to play.
2010-10-21 17:18
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Slovenia RISINGfta
money rules the world!!!
2010-10-21 17:03
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#15
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Romania ionutgrig
Too many "sensational" rumors!!!!
2010-10-21 17:03
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OMG! noooooooo :D
2010-10-21 17:03
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Poland qater-
'Fadl also claims that reports within EPS teams suggest that mousesports are interested in signining two players from either SK Gaming or Frag eXecutors.' whaaat?
2010-10-21 17:04
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#368
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Russia B!F
immo kuben walle kapio loord would be nice!
2010-10-22 09:55
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#18
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Romania chns
i will hate sk if they will do thiw
2010-10-21 17:04
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#19
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Latvia h3ro1n
Why would Na`Vi want to join SK? I mean , they have Arbalet , no need to join SK..
2010-10-21 17:04
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#162
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Poland ninus
remember Murat can any time just stop sponsor them, because of getting bored of esport of whatever other reason
2010-10-21 17:34
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#170
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Latvia h3ro1n
Nah.. :P
2010-10-21 17:36
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#259
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Poland ninus
why not? they dont have any contracts or something, it's his money, he can just pull off any day
2010-10-21 18:01
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#279
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United Kingdom ioi
lol Murat will never be bored of cs after wcg he invited Na'Vi to Kazakhstan to play with him and his office workers(and they lived in 5 - stars hotel). Also his son plays in k23 Murat is not planning champs this year, but next year there will be more than last year.
2010-10-21 18:12
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#291
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Poland ninus
you never know that, na'vi is just his toy
2010-10-21 18:16
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Poland Kuz.
OmG
2010-10-21 17:04
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#22
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Romania ShevA*
hope they realize this move quickly... it's about time if you ask me... since 2006 fnatic are dominating the swedish scene... SK needs some fresh blood for a long time... gl!
2010-10-21 17:04
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#43
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Sweden Lokq
fnatic has not been dominating the scene since 2006, they were ok until 2009 where they changed players
2010-10-21 17:07
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#82
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Romania ShevA*
What big trophies has got SK since 2006? IOL 1,2,3,4,5,6,etc:))))? Only that silver medal at WCG and ESWC, that's all. NO gold for them since a loooooooooooong, looooooooooooong time :D.
2010-10-21 17:17
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#278
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Sweden WIWO
Oh shut up please. SK were 2009:s second best team in the world, but I guess you started following SK yesterday. Here are some of their achievements. 2010: SEC 2010 #1 (a gold) IOL BO4 #1 (yet another gold, won after beating fnatic) Arbalet BO4 #2 ESWC #2 IEM World Finals #3 2009: Arbalet Europe #1 (oh christ, another gold) IEF #1 (more gold medals?) IEM Chengdu #1 (one more!?) ESWC Chengdu #2 KODE5 #2 IEM Dubai #3 If you call that a bad team, you know nothing about Counter-Strike. I even agree on SK needing fresh blood, but saying that they haven't achieved anything is pure bullshit.
2010-10-21 18:15
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#345
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Romania ShevA*
Dude i've watched the scene for quite some time... tell me just one big tournament that they won... they placed second a lot of times and that's when the're on a good shape... NO first places at IEM EF or WF, no WCG,ESWC,KODE5... the tournaments that matters...i'm not saying the're bad, i'm saying Na`Vi's better. With this lineup i don't think i'll see the day when they're gonna be ranked 1st in the world.(walle+robban+allen+face+anyone in the world)
2010-10-21 21:06
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Russia groov1k
SK is not even in Top10 teams
2010-10-21 17:18
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#145
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Sweden Marcus1g
LOL tard?
2010-10-21 17:31
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#367
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India arjunish2006
2010-10-22 08:31
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#100
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Portugal FCPORTO
if sk signs navi, they'll become ukrainian orga with 5 ukrainian players.. i dont think they'll be able to play qualifiers in Sweden, so fnatic will continue to dominate..
2010-10-21 17:21
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#169
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Poland ninus
how getting 5 ukrainian players will make sk ukrainian organisation? they will still be german
2010-10-21 17:36
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#217
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Portugal FCPORTO
seriously? cmon.. ofc they'll still be german, u think im dumb? my point is, they wont be able to attend Sweden quals, so fnatic will still be #1 there..
2010-10-21 17:47
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#266
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Poland ninus
you wrote ukrainian organisation, so..
2010-10-21 18:04
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
2010-10-21 17:04
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#24
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Lithuania Stipriaks
i dont think that SK could sign Na`Vi , cuz Arbalet give all the best to these guys and i dont think that they will leave his sponsoring:)
2010-10-21 17:06
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+1
2010-10-21 17:06
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#25
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Romania zvan-_--
NaVi is NaVi!
2010-10-21 17:05
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#26
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Brazil fnxxxLLL
lol Na`Vi to SK and NEO with RobbaN to mousesports haha
2010-10-21 17:05
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#27
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Poland Mt0b1
mousesports signing two of FX ? Nowai. (ye, I know we, Poles, are masters of drawing the attention away from the topi to FX, but what can i do ;)
2010-10-21 17:05
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#309
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Brazil joaoo
i think that is possible since that mousesports appears to be a bigger org. than fX, and they alredy can`t play WCG because of gob_b, why they would not be interesting in the best player of world(neo) and taz or whatever...i taz because taz is a madfragger 2(not like neo, but you know... like gux and gtr, gux is a madfragger, but get right is >> him) :)))
2010-10-21 18:53
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#312
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Poland Mt0b1
Yeah, I mean they can WANT< but none of the F is going to fall for that, Im fairly sure.
2010-10-21 19:05
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Lithuania DngzR
OMG?!?!
2010-10-21 17:05
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#29
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Germany OSCULO10
crap rumours
2010-10-21 17:05
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Na`Vi = SK ? SK in ukrainien flag lol
2010-10-21 17:06
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#31
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Romania zeusel
SK may be interested in NaVi but NaVi are certainly not interested in SK :]
2010-10-21 17:06
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#184
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Romania miezu
true
2010-10-21 17:38
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Albania psymon
No way
2010-10-21 17:06
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#33
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World weakest
just another stupid rumor... delete this news plz
2010-10-21 17:08
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#53
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Denmark Nomad - HLTV.org
The source is clearly labeled and yes it is a rumor which the newspost is not trying to hide, so what exactly is the problem?
2010-10-21 17:09
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#34
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Albania Zano11
SK markeloff SK Starix SK ceh9 SK Edward SK Zeus :)
2010-10-21 17:06
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#35
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Ukraine tafa
mirra )))) it can happen, but maybe in 2012 )) not at 2011
2010-10-21 17:08
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#196
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Ukraine rhin0
:D:D:D
2010-10-21 17:41
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#36
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Germany immo2k
oh hey its miraa again spreading shit, not surprised
2010-10-21 17:06
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3 replies
#211
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Denmark Nix0n
So its ok to talk about it on ESL TV, but not on HLTV.org?
2010-10-21 17:46
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2 replies
#277
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Germany immo2k
im not really into being an attentionwhore no, i know its your job to post about it :-)
2010-10-21 18:10
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#361
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Brazil amark
Is it your job to act like a retard in this website?
2010-10-22 00:34
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#38
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Spain Maris
SK.markeloff SK.Edward SK.starix SK.Zeus SK.ceh9 mousesports roman mousesports tixo mousesports gob b mousesports moddii/Neo mousesports face/Loord No way! mousesports should take someone like ODIE and SK pick up Delpan. Na`Vi are OK!
2010-10-21 17:07
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#64
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India sir_al_3xxx
+1 why would they leave a multimillionaire :P
2010-10-21 17:12
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#316
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Poland prodo
Go kill yourself :E
2010-10-21 19:07
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4 replies
#321
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Spain Maris
Why is that?
2010-10-21 19:19
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#325
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Poland prodo
How the f*** someone from Fx would leave it? It's just impossible.
2010-10-21 19:26
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#328
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Spain Maris
I never said they would! I just want FX and Na`Vi to stick together, mousesports to add someone and Delpan to step in SK.
2010-10-21 19:33
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#329
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Poland prodo
Ok, nevermind.
2010-10-21 19:42
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#39
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Paque | 
Serbia Paque
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2010-10-21 17:07
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#40
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Czech Republic fist0r
1st April on 21st October?:D
2010-10-21 17:07
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#42
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Ukraine tafa
and 1 more thing ))) Navi won 3 best tournament in this year ) and it is an absolutly record
2010-10-21 17:08
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SK.UKRAINE | markeloff SK.UKRAINE | Edward SK.UKRAINE | ceh9 SK.UKRAINE | Zeus SK.UKRAINE | starix
2010-10-21 17:08
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#46
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Ukraine furY-
WHAT THE F***?
2010-10-21 17:08
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#47
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REAL | 
Norway duffz00r
oleeee
2010-10-21 17:08
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#49
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Poland centje
Murat "CrossBow" Zhumashevich, not 'Arbalet', lol.
2010-10-21 17:09
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#219
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Ukraine StelZ
hahaha make my evening))
2010-10-21 17:47
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#310
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Brazil joaoo
tibia player, tibia r0xx
2010-10-21 18:55
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#50
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Greece EjaVaqeL (:
hahahah walle they donot want u anymore , n00b :)
2010-10-21 17:09
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#51
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
no way!!! lol would be the best thing hahahahahah neo + robban + loord + allen and pasha
2010-10-21 17:09
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#69
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Greece her-1g
they said 2 players dumbass
2010-10-21 17:13
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#52
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World nerdy2
haha this doesn't really make sense. a german teams wants to sign 2 swedish players or 2 polish players?? a) why would people from fx or sk want to leave to a worse team (after cyx's tragic death mouz lost probably their best player) b) why would navi want to go to sk as i think arbalet isn't going to stop his support after their victories and c) not a single one of these teams have many players who speak english fluently (they can speak but not with total ease) so it's even more unlikely that anything like this would happen
2010-10-21 17:09
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#117
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France Emma W.
money? elemeNt played also for mouz some time ago, that's nothing new.
2010-10-21 17:25
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#54
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Europe eler
Arbalet > SK
2010-10-21 17:10
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#55
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FalleN | 
Portugal proak
:o no shit!
2010-10-21 17:10
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#56
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Poland cord-
buhahaha
2010-10-21 17:10
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#57
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
SHIT :) trust me
2010-10-21 17:10
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#58
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Ukraine tafa
#49 arbalet in russian - crossbow in english )) but arbalet is right
2010-10-21 17:11
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#59
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Slovakia calam1ty
good thing if you ask me...walle and allen dont just cut it anymore.....this move will also free-up talented players like moddii and delpan from their clutches...and it's also a good use of SK's resources. New team: Robban Delpan Moddii manne/dennis face Players like Xizt can make this better but I don't want any other lineups to change..LIONS are doing pretty well and they should stick.
2010-10-21 17:12
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#63
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
yeah just stop telling shits
2010-10-21 17:12
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1 reply
#77
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Slovakia calam1ty
yeah I will always listen to you man... NOT
2010-10-21 17:15
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#60
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Latvia h3ro1n
I don't know what's the big deal? I mean SK won WCG Nordic with moddii , they won SEC with moddii and at WCG , they were unlucky against FX. Why everyone is saying -walle +delpan and other BS ? RobbaN is sick , so he can't play. It's kinda strange , that he won't play at WEM though, you have time to heal until then..
2010-10-21 17:12
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Na`Vi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SK
2010-10-21 17:12
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fail not's true
2010-10-21 17:12
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#65
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Netherlands Erty
LOL WTF ?
2010-10-21 17:13
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#66
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Brazil rdsw:
NEVER!
2010-10-21 17:13
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#68
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Finland waltsu
bold and the beautiful season 50 features counterstrike 1.6, rumours, fights, drama all around the globe, stay tuuuuuuuuuned! only on ESL.TV!
2010-10-21 17:13
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hahaha
2010-10-21 17:31
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#70
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Canada theRage
The guys in SK have been playing competitively for 10 years+... If they split up or get let go from SK, they'll definitely retire. Or they could just be smart and bring back tentpole :D
2010-10-21 17:13
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noo Na`Vi name is legend!
2010-10-21 17:13
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#194
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Poland ninus
how can it be a legend, if that name exist not even a whole year?
2010-10-21 17:41
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#221
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Ukraine rhin0
Did the legends are only after 50+ years? They did something that until now nobody could. p.s. There is a phrase "living legend"...
2010-10-21 17:47
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#268
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Poland ninus
hmmmm okey..
2010-10-21 18:04
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#72
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Peru siniestro'
navi is navi arbelet > sk +1
2010-10-21 17:13
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#73
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Slovakia calam1ty
But this mousesports signing two players from SK or FX is just LOL.. If this whole report turns out to be true, it would be the maximum number of high profile changes happening simultaneously EVER!!! :) Damn this! :D
2010-10-21 17:14
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#74
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France komOdo
good news!
2010-10-21 17:14
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#75
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Brazil rdsw:
NEW LINE OF SK WALLE MODDII FACE kHRYSTAL XIZT :)
2010-10-21 17:14
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#104
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North Macedonia gastar
actually walle fucked up the team :)))))) GTR > WALLE KHRYSTAL > WALLE ZET > WALLE DELPAN > WALLE MODDII > WALLE TENTPOLE > WALLE
2010-10-21 17:23
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4 replies
#118
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Brazil rdsw:
but the king is walle
2010-10-21 17:25
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3 replies
#125
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Brazil rdsw:
but the king is walle walle or Delpan :)
2010-10-21 17:26
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#190
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Belarus SnG.Striker!
)))))))
2010-10-21 17:39
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#249
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Brazil rdsw:
.
2010-10-21 17:55
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#107
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pulan | 
Romania plajE
walle needs to retire
2010-10-21 17:23
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#76
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
BULLSHIT
2010-10-21 17:14
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#78
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Portugal drivesUcrazy
great news. For all the fanboys of SK.swe.. 1 fact don't hat the org.. Sk is a german organization not sweeden.. And it would be nice if mouz picked up 4 and not 2 players.. cause the only player that will stay in mouz will be roman.. at least that's what i heard.. the rest of them want to retire in the end of the year. mouz|TAZ <igl> mouz|neo mouz|face mouz|moddi mouz|roman SK|Zeus SK|starix SK|edward SK|markelloff SK|ceh9 it wouldbe awesome..
2010-10-21 17:16
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#84
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United States ckzi
tat wld be a sick lineup
2010-10-21 17:17
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#262
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Belgium skiski
they wont pick up more than 2 players .they need at least 3 germans players in the line up to play german eps.
2010-10-21 18:02
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#272
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Portugal drivesUcrazy
hum did not know. still i'm not seeing good stuff come from it.. sk actuall lineup only have 3 player that play cs cause they wanna win and not only because of the paycheck every month.. it would be better if mouz would pick players from fx a thing that i don't think that will happen.. cause no1 can split the golden5 enve luq is out the core of the team remains the same. :\ to bad
2010-10-21 18:08
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#280
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United States jns_kodiii
SK lineup: i think SK will stay the same, according to what SK site said SK|walle SK|moddii SK|RobbaN SK|face SK|allen unless they eventually pickup Delpan after they go to china with him and win that/those tournament, they'll have no choice but to get him..and SIGN FUCKING MODDII ALREADY, JESUS FUCK :D Na`Vi lineup: i think it will stay the same also, arbalet gives them so much money i;ve heard, so why leave? Na`Vi Edwardwow~ Na`Vi Zeus Na`Vi markeloff Na`Vi esenin Na`Vi starix NEW mouz lineup : gob b neo roman Loord TIXO that lineup would be godly and i figure the polish boys would may know German and vice versa...more likely to speak German/Polish than the swedes i would leave TaZ outta that lineup because gob b is a better IGL an Fragger imo event hough TaZ is amazing, and if go b and TaZ played together i don't think they would mesh together at all FX would be left with, TaZ, pasha, and kuben but they could still be good with TaZ pasha kuben ruloN drive that would be a nice lineup this is what i'd go with in this situation
2010-10-21 18:12
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#284
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Portugal drivesUcrazy
man i read alot of your comments. you are a fanboy and you know nothing about cs. And you forget something... beeing suportted by 1 rich person that can desapear and stop pay for the trips, rent, internet and gaming material is something.. have a contract with a organization that already is sponsored by gaming brands, internet brands, probably discounts on the ticket flights and that have a legal contract.. that if they don't live up to they can be sued is total new story. You are a lil bit stupid. Sorry don't want to be troll but you are.
2010-10-21 18:18
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#317
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Poland prodo
Doors on the right, go and don't back -_-
2010-10-21 19:10
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#295
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Canada krux00
You have to think about it though. They would have to use english as their language, and not everyone of them has a fluent english like lurppis learned in USA. Communication and teamplay would be highly affected, and in the end I don't even think they'd compete with fnatic because aim is not all that matters.
2010-10-21 18:20
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#300
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Portugal drivesUcrazy
i know that.. picking sk players will be a mistake for alot of reasons even the language... picking fx player is impossible i can say that it's a fact that fx is package. or mouz get the all team in, or mouz wont get any of those players.
2010-10-21 18:31
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#79
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Sweden ezk
omg :<
2010-10-21 17:16
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#80
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Sweden Vilseledd
I hope they drop the current SK lineup, they suck
2010-10-21 17:16
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Na`Vi have how many sponsors ?
2010-10-21 17:16
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#89
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Poland qater-
It doesn't matter since Arbalet is there :D
2010-10-21 17:18
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#120
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Greece her-1g
arbalet is zillionaire soo noneed for crap sponsors
2010-10-21 17:26
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#123
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Denmark Nix0n
Murat, the one and only :)
2010-10-21 17:26
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#86
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World endofdays
hahahahaha
2010-10-21 17:17
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omg
2010-10-21 17:18
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#90
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United Kingdom kp`
i can see Na'vi leaving for Sk if the money is right. Rooney will leave Man U so anything can happen!
2010-10-21 17:18
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#94
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Poland qater-
Mourinho is waiting for a SAF's call!
2010-10-21 17:20
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2 replies
#106
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Portugal FCPORTO
why would he?
2010-10-21 17:23
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1 reply
#112
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Poland qater-
He just said in interview something like that 'If ManU wants to sell Rooney , call to me quickly then' :D
2010-10-21 17:24
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#92
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Russia k1x
hahahahaha soooooo fuuuuuunnny :D
2010-10-21 17:19
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#93
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Ukraine gungrave
nonono NaVi will do multi gaming organization also. they have no need to pass in sk
2010-10-21 17:19
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#95
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Ukraine ritN
OOOMMGGGGG WTF??? :'(
2010-10-21 17:20
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#96
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China zaalex
SK.UKRAIN amazing!
2010-10-21 17:20
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#97
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Belgium Ruban M.
I hope this is not true.
2010-10-21 17:20
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#113
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Ukraine Nzr0
+1 Na'Vi dont need to join to SK mg they are perfect ;D
2010-10-21 17:24
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#101
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Romania HUMPS
Maybe Murat 'Arbalet' will continue supporting them in SK :D SK|MURAT =p
2010-10-21 17:24
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#102
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Portugal FCPORTO
S(IC)K!
2010-10-21 17:22
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1 reply
awesome.
2010-10-21 17:43
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#103
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Ukraine Aimward
LOL
2010-10-21 17:22
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#105
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Albania DONNJkE
na `vi will decline
2010-10-21 17:23
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#108
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flusha | 
Slovakia jurrte
omfg wtf aaaaaaaaaaaa
2010-10-21 17:24
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#109
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United Kingdom Bullseye2k
Blizzard roman Tixo Neo Loord/TaZ Blizzard roman Tixo RobbaN face
2010-10-21 17:24
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#121
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Germany pa$co
Blizzard stops definitively after this EPS season.
2010-10-21 17:26
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#110
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Greece her-1g
i just cant see any country other than sweden with the SK tag....It would be lame.Arbalet gives them enough money why on earth you would go to an organisation that isnt even half rich as arbalet himself...About SK current players leaving the ranks i could prolly see that happening because they are not performing as good as they are supposed to...And about mouz signing 2 players from SK or FX..(from FX rather impossible)noone would mess with the golden 4(ex-five ahah)more likely 2 players from SK to move to mouz because i think only roman will stay active in the end...I could see roman playing with RobbaN and moddii etc..
2010-10-21 17:24
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#111
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World Mck007
not possible
2010-10-21 17:24
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omg...SK shit!!!
2010-10-21 17:25
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hahah omg, once a wise guy told me that SK always swap those players who r at the top. Many times SK Exchanged team with h2k n other..... Boooo Down 2 sk! SK only sees fame. He don`t care of any player but the players that can be benificial for the SK`s future lol quit lame isn`t ?
2010-10-21 17:25
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#116
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Ukraine samsung2010
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2010-10-21 17:25
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#119
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Brazil Kimizilian
WTF ! PLX, NO !
2010-10-21 17:26
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only rely on the support of Kazakh millionaire Murat "Arbalet" Zhumashevich... hahahha only, I loled
2010-10-21 17:26
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#127
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
I trolled
2010-10-21 17:27
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#124
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Turkey sharnV
SK.ukran lol
2010-10-21 17:26
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#126
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World devblack10
omg..........
2010-10-21 17:27
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#128
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Russia k1x
Natus Vincere its independent multygaming organization in the near future. And I am sure that they do not need the services of sk-gaming. Of course many prospects opened after win three major titles. This is so blatantly and low to "looking to sign Ukrainian team Natus Vincere." ridiculously... sorry for my English...
2010-10-21 17:27
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#129
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Sweden ezk
omg bad :<
2010-10-21 17:27
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#130
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Lithuania corpuse
100% navi don`t accept this!!!
2010-10-21 17:27
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#131
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Russia foxaa
bull shit Arbalet >>> SK
2010-10-21 17:27
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#132
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broky | 
Romania farkas
maybe it`s just a rumour so the curent players in SK to perform better :):):) mouseports neo / moddii would be great :))
2010-10-21 17:27
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#133
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Kazakhstan ABAsrazz[0]
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o SK unmanres hate they...
2010-10-21 17:27
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#134
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Europe BIG BROTHER
what a bullshit, that not make any sense
2010-10-21 17:28
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#135
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United States P0ckets
WTF is with these teams people are speculating? There will be no mix teams with players from multi euro countries
2010-10-21 17:28
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#137
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Poland shaggyR
LOL mouz|Neo mouz|TaZ mouz|walle mouz|face mouz|roman was be awsome :D
2010-10-21 17:29
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mouz|neo mouz|moddii mouz|roman mouz|Delpan mouz|TaZ sound better :D
2010-10-21 17:30
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#158
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Gux | 
Europe suicide'
a swedish-polish-german dreamteam <3
2010-10-21 17:32
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maybe it's impossible, but sound rly sick :P
2010-10-21 17:36
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#143
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Poland qater-
Was? walle? No way dude.
2010-10-21 17:30
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#148
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United Kingdom wap
roman and neo in the same lineup would be crazy
2010-10-21 17:31
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FX.NEO FX.TAZ FX.LOORD FX.KUBEN FX.PASHA FX.LUq !
2010-10-21 18:01
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#139
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World iceberew
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ;D
2010-10-21 17:29
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#140
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Germany kravitz
hahahahahahah That made me laugh out loud. Thats almost as good as when i would say that the fnatic guys are gonna join SK :D
2010-10-21 17:30
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#141
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China zaalex
SK lineup: SK|Zeus SK|starix SK|Edward SK|markelloff SK|ceh9 Na`Vi lineup Na`Vi walle Na`Vi moddii Na`Vi face Na`Vi RobbaN Na`Vi allen funny!:D
2010-10-21 17:30
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#166
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Faroe Islands Obamanationn
arbalet doesnt like swedes he supports his own country men
2010-10-21 17:35
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#234
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Romania zeusel
arbalet is kazakh not ukrainian ^^ he supports teams from the CIS (ukraine/russia etc.)
2010-10-21 17:51
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#263
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China zaalex
just kidding!
2010-10-21 18:02
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#144
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
Cool story bro :D
2010-10-21 17:30
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#146
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Greece CH34732
woowwwwwwww now thats cool! it will become like football. international!!!!
2010-10-21 17:31
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#147
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Ukraine DemaN/R
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2010-10-21 17:31
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#200
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Finland jonkkis
man, it's just a rumour. No word from Na`Vi has been heard and i'm pretty sure they won't go to SK or if they do, then you should be glad, coz it practically means that they would get more support from SK than from this millionaire guy.
2010-10-21 17:43
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#209
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Ukraine DemaN/R
no Arbalet the best sponsor and beautiful people!
2010-10-21 17:45
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#149
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Morocco skamz
Na'Vi to SK-Gaming, and mouz with a new swedish roster : face Delpan RobbaN MODDII alleN
2010-10-21 17:31
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#183
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India nikz.mafia
+1 but navi shoudnt go to sk and mouz should sign the lineup you mentioned. would serve sk right
2010-10-21 17:38
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#150
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Portugal prodigypt
I dont really believe in it, but its still possible :)
2010-10-21 17:31
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#151
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Belgium FnX^
hope not ..
2010-10-21 17:31
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#152
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Bosnia and Herzegovina IFC
So not good. The team that was fighting and defending the colors of SK for 10 years, is going to get off just because of money. That show how retarding is the esports today.
2010-10-21 17:31
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#298
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Canada krux00
10 years ? Well, first of all the first line-ups of SK were german, and after that... the players right now just came in 2007 (2006 for allen). I don't know where you took 10 years. More like 4 years.
2010-10-21 18:24
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#155
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Portugal ALCHEMISTGOD
the only way navi go to sk is murat approve and it doesnt seem fair, murat sponsored NaVi's GOLDS but also navi's failures ( not that much) but if it wasnt for murat navi wouldnt be where they are atm, gl sk gl mouz gl navi
2010-10-21 17:32
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#156
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Sweden Jerkan_f0cus
IF it will be off, it's by far the biggest w0w moment in CS history :P
2010-10-21 17:32
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#159
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France souled
strangest news of the year oO I only hope nothing of that all is true, that mouz will just take b4d, that RobbaN indeed only is just temporarily ill and that SK finaly sign moddiii...
2010-10-21 17:33
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if they pick a german player, that should be odie or ninja
2010-10-21 17:47
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#275
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France souled
ok thx for letting me know
2010-10-21 18:10
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#164
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Poland Fx|kubb
lol
2010-10-21 17:35
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No way will this happen.
2010-10-21 17:35
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#167
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Poland micronn
FX don't change line-up. SK maybe change, and Na'Vi don't go to SK and don't change l-up.
2010-10-21 17:36
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#178
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
How do you make this words ? (fat)
2010-10-21 17:37
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#168
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Russia aLk_1
go in mym :D
2010-10-21 17:35
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#172
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Romania benDover!
rumors are rumors till proven wrong.
2010-10-21 17:36
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#173
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Russia k1x
this topic its like troooolling :DDD
2010-10-21 17:36
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#177
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Faroe Islands Obamanationn
mousesports | roman mousesports | neo mousesports | moddii mousesports | kapio mousesports | tixo
2010-10-21 17:37
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#181
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Germany sumatra
would be so nice :D
2010-10-21 17:38
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#179
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Albania p4ch
i dont like this
2010-10-21 17:37
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#180
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Poland drysick
Relax ppl, whe have prima aprilis today have we?
2010-10-21 17:38
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#182
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Brazil fnxxxLLL
well, we just have to wait next years season to see what will gonna happen =)
2010-10-21 17:38
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#186
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Europe agaiNJB
i like this but had SK.SWE and SK.URAIN with diferent rosters. SK.SWE with : face, walle, robbaN, moodii, alen SK.UKRAIN with : starix, markloff, ceh9, edward,zeus. SK WITH OTHER ROSTER : NEO; TAZ; FACE; MOODII; DELPAN
2010-10-21 17:38
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#188
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Portugal trusttt
cs scene is so messed up, oh god.
2010-10-21 17:38
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#189
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Finland Nasdaq
SK to pick up NaVi and mouz to pick up non-german players from SK and/or FX? sounds really, really weird. would be extremely surprised if this turned out to be true.
2010-10-21 17:38
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#191
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Ukraine space inc.
omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2010-10-21 17:39
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#193
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United States mah9
wow haha this would be pretty cool
2010-10-21 17:40
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#195
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kHRYSTAL | 
Russia kajjonok
oh, noooooo :x hate SK! Murat Zhumashevich > SK :x
2010-10-21 17:41
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#197
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Argentina sebaxinho
no pls :(
2010-10-21 17:41
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#198
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United States jns_kodiii
"In the event of SK Gaming successfully luring Na´Vi into their ranks, the future of the Swedish players look to be in doubt, but mousesports could be willing to offer them an escape route." so are they dropping the Swedish division then? or just letting mouz or FX get two of their players? and then SK can sign 2 new players i guess? if they drop the Swedish division they're fucking retarded if they're trying to get Na`Vi then keep both lineups like when you had SK Germany and Sweden team SK.ua SK.se but idk why Na`Vi would leave, they're getting a shit ton from arbalet as far as i know
2010-10-21 17:44
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#199
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Netherlands vrxxjaaah
BLOGS CS 1.6 in 2010 By Alexander T. 'TheSlaSH' Müller-Rodic Oct 21, 2010 17:39 From the SK-gaming site Let's make this quick and short. HLTV has posted an article that indicates SK is to sign Na'Vi to play under their ranks in 2011. All I can say is that this will not happen. And to avoid unnecessary comments, Robban's health condition right now is serious. Please respect that we will not comment on this topic any further than this information. We hope to have him back and healthy within our team soon.
2010-10-21 17:42
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#207
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United Kingdom wap
Well HLTV never said that SK wanted them to play under their ranks in 2011, so I dont get why he would mention that. Anyway thats probably nothing, lets see what happens
2010-10-21 17:45
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#208
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United States jns_kodiii
i guess that sums it up, i wrote an essay for no reason lol...but i'm wondering about mouz picking up two players from sk or FX.... mouz new lineup tixo gob b roman neo Loord that would be an amazing fucking lineup, and i would think the German guys are more likely to understand polish then the swedes
2010-10-21 17:50
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why not mouz picking the whole FX lineup? after EPS blizzard & Kapio will stop playing
2010-10-21 17:43
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#220
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Faroe Islands Obamanationn
or why doesnt SK and mouz sports just merge since there both German Based organization and help refresh the german scene...
2010-10-21 17:47
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It would be wonderful, ofc. But since communication takes a big part of the game (at least for pro players :S) they should be worry about how is this gonna be. Anyway, we'll w8 & see what happen
2010-10-21 17:50
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#205
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Serbia TRIGYYY
WHAT A FUCK!!!
2010-10-21 17:44
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NiP 2010 they will come back SpawN Tentpole Delpan zet HeatoN/RobbaN/face
2010-10-21 17:46
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#215
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Poland micronn
FX to mousesports it can be, I like good for them.
2010-10-21 17:47
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but it's like mouz could gave them the chance of participating of many more great events
2010-10-21 17:48
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#230
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Poland micronn
Would have been nice, but everyone knows what's the relationship between this two countries. :)
2010-10-21 17:50
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and who said something about diplomatic relationships between countries? I'm pretty sure FX crew would go anywhere better if they have the chance. Even SK.
2010-10-21 17:51
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#240
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Poland micronn
Sure, sure. ;)
2010-10-21 17:52
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#216
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Germany CALM_BAITER
Nothing strange here... I'd like to see Neo and taz in mouz instead of blizzard and kapio. That would be sick.
2010-10-21 17:47
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#226
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Faroe Islands Obamanationn
well kapio and blizzard are set to retire after EPS
2010-10-21 17:48
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#228
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Germany CALM_BAITER
I know, that's why my bet is on Neo and taz to join mouz. Since I know KinGSaicx and he's not a kid, I'm pretty sure he has top infos :)
2010-10-21 17:49
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#232
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Poland micronn
Not only Neo & TaZ but all FX line-up to mousesports. :)
2010-10-21 17:51
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#304
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Germany CALM_BAITER
Nah, 3+2 team, you'll see :)
2010-10-21 18:33
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fuck sk !!
2010-10-21 17:48
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#227
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Sweden layer1337
They will probably get alot more money playing for SK then na'vi.
2010-10-21 17:48
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#233
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Romania chns
2010-10-21 17:51
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#245
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Russia LumeNation
ty bro
2010-10-21 17:54
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#236
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Russia LumeNation
Russian portals blown
2010-10-21 17:51
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#237
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hed0r | 
Afghanistan gaIaxies
NO WAY,, if navi have some pride they won't sign sk gaming,, i mean they are now the best team in the world and all it is because of Arbalet and his support. And now when they are the best some other team comes and they want to buy them just because they want to eliminate their biggest rival it is like real madrid or barcelona buying the best players in the world and when they came here they start to suck,,{Henry or so}
2010-10-21 17:51
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#238
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m0NESY | 
Russia hameleonus
please no!!! sk must be sweden team in cs, not anouther country!!!
2010-10-21 17:51
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#239
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Romania ktc_2008
lies
2010-10-21 17:53
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#242
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United Kingdom wap
2010-10-21 17:54
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#252
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Poland Lanvin
haha why hltv post this bullshit omfg
2010-10-21 17:58
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#271
HLTV Verified Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark Nomad - HLTV.org
Uhm, our source is clearly labeled..?
2010-10-21 18:07
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#243
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nescAuR | 
United States nescaur
eita..
2010-10-21 17:54
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#244
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Germany j0tt
sk won't and can't pay the same money as arbalet. failstory from the attention whore bakr who knows a shit about professional teams
2010-10-21 17:54
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no leave na'vi markeloff ... SK is very bad team !
2010-10-21 17:56
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#247
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markeloff | 
Russia sashka_spb
hah no way!! Na'Vi it's not Na`Vi if the will join to SK!
2010-10-21 17:55
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#248
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Russia AB74P
SK.swe and SK.ua ?
2010-10-21 17:55
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#250
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Russia fasic
omg :D
2010-10-21 17:57
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#251
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Lithuania arcylo
okey people, stop dreaming about german-polish-sweden dreamteam! and stop thinking that walle is awesome, he is too old for cs and should quit it.. there are a lot of young players, with better motivation to play .
2010-10-21 17:58
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newspost is not about walle
2010-10-21 18:15
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#253
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Slovakia DIEMAJ
By Alexander T. 'TheSlaSH' Müller-Rodic Oct 21, 2010 17:39 Let's make this quick and short. HLTV has posted an article that indicates SK is to sign Na'Vi to play under their ranks in 2011. All I can say is that this will not happen. And to avoid unnecessary comments, Robban's health condition right now is serious. Please respect that we will not comment on this topic any further than this information. We hope to have him back and healthy within our team soon.
2010-10-21 17:58
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#254
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Russia takiturN
HOLY SHIT OMG
2010-10-21 17:58
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#256
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Finland jonkkis
you made my day
2010-10-21 18:00
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#260
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Portugal juandfg
lol.. no Na`Vi for SK and no SK/FX for mouz.. thats all i know..
2010-10-21 18:02
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#265
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France klwN
erm, I highly doubt SK could outbid Mr. Arbalet... and why would mouz sign two foreign players ? they would have to talk in English all the time :/
2010-10-21 18:03
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#267
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China firegun
SK is such a poor oganization to lie on their paycheck,Na'vi should not join them. reputation from SK went DOWN DOWN after WEG Master.Navi should refuse,when wNv sign to play CSs 5 years ago they made a big mistake to put an end to top1 in the world,now navi should not do that,theyv become so strong.And they should just keep shinning,instead of joining a poor organation.
2010-10-21 18:04
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#269
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Peru siniestro'
hahah is only Speculation.... we love na'vi the way they are....don't ruin na'vi brand with sk
2010-10-21 18:06
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#270
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Albania RUNNA
FTW! mouz new lineup RobbaN face Delpan roman moddii
2010-10-21 18:06
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#281
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France souled
lol if only they could all speak the same language that would be amazing
2010-10-21 18:13
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#274
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United Kingdom hArdLad
Match Statement Pre-Match Statement ______________________ After our successful match against TBH just a few days ago we already have to play another match, and yet again with a stand in. Unfortunately this time face won't be around since he is moving the last parts to his new home and we were not able to move the match further or earlier to play with the default lineup. Just incase for upcoming rumours, no, nothings wrong within the team, we just have to deal with these unfortunate happenings but this should be the last time you see me playing. Anyway HSBG consists of players that are actually quite experienced and can always surprise but we are definitely looking for another three points in this though group. GL HF EDIT: By immo, prematch SK vs HEADSHOTBG
2010-10-21 18:10
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#282
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China 0stuff
oh no how could it happen??
2010-10-21 18:13
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#283
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Israel Korenov
I bet they wont do the transfer . there's alot of reasons
2010-10-21 18:14
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#289
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Ukraine fleizeN
fake and gay. na`vi wants to make a full multi-gaming organisation, and now SK is picking them? :-D lol'd. delete.
2010-10-21 18:15
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#290
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Germany Bond-
u guys really think that the na`vi team will lose the sponsorship of a milionare who doesnt want anything in return for he`s help?and they get to keep the winnings from all the tournaments ... for what i ask you? to go to sk to get a salary and a % from tournament prize money? and all for what? for the name of SK?!?!?!?!? be serious guys :) they wont make such a stupid mistake imo
2010-10-21 18:16
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#314
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Denmark Nix0n
Just a question here. But what if Arbalet one day would chose to pull out of e-Sport and his sponsorship with NaVi?
2010-10-21 19:06
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#318
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Germany Bond-
i think untill then, na`vi would have or maybe if they dont have already gathered enough money to be independent...and even if not, at that point if that would happen i guess there will be alot of organizations interested in them...so either way they wont lose pretty much and i`d say it is better to stay in this boat untill it sinks :D why? because a milionare`s boat wont sink so easy :)) i guess! =DDD
2010-10-21 19:14
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#369
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Russia B!F
In this case they will easily find a stable organisation without any doubt.
2010-10-22 09:57
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#293
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United States jns_kodiii
they won't drop the swedish team, yet anyway, this lineup is representing SK at two tournaments in china, and they just announced Delpan as the stand-in, and i think they have a chance to beat Na`Vi (i hope not) or fnatic and maybe win the tournament..and then what? they would just drop them? SK lineup: i think SK will stay the same, according to what SK site said about the situation involving Na'Vi and not picking them up.. SK|walle SK|moddii SK|RobbaN SK|face SK|allen but if they do get Na`Vi then keep them both SK.SWEDEN walle SK.SWEDEN moddii SK.SWEDEN RobbaN SK.SWEDEN face SK.SWEDEN allen SK.ua starix SK.ua esenin SK.ua markeloff SK.ua Zeus SK.ua EdwardwOw~ this would be a fucking cash cow for SK NEW mouz lineup : mouz gob b mouz neo mouz roman mouz Loord mouz TIXO that lineup would be godly and i figure the polish boys would may know German and vice versa...more likely to speak German/Polish than the swedes i would leave TaZ outta that lineup because gob b is a better IGL an Fragger imo even though TaZ is amazing, and if gob b and TaZ played together i don't think they would mesh together at all FX would be left with, TaZ, pasha, and kuben or retirement, but they could still be good with TaZ pasha kuben ruloN drive that would be a nice lineup this is what i'd go with in this situation posted twice, damn
2010-10-21 18:28
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#294
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Chile emekattzeN
MONEY>ALL
2010-10-21 18:19
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#297
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World HATER!
arbalet is pissing on sk organisation
2010-10-21 18:24
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#301
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Bosnia and Herzegovina dimolom
impossible at all :) no way Na'Vi <3 best team on world !
2010-10-21 18:31
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#302
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North Macedonia leeroyMKD
omg !
2010-10-21 18:32
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#303
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Denmark DamieN ThorN
nice to know
2010-10-21 18:33
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#306
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Chile alejandrowOw
SK need: moddii, delpan, khrystal, threat, xitz or manne and they have the best team in sweden afther fnatic
2010-10-21 18:41
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#307
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Bulgaria bobo_tr
And now allen and co. + zet and Tentpole/SpawN will crush NaVI (may be new SK) :)
2010-10-21 18:41
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#308
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China zaalex
SK FAILED!
2010-10-21 18:43
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#313
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Brazil awesomeguy:D
SK|markeloff LOL , it won't happen
2010-10-21 19:05
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#319
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Poland prodo
Believe or not but any Fx's player won't leave Fx. It's really stupid to thinking and even saying about it.
2010-10-21 19:13
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#320
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Russia MER@VING
Nicw news)) I guess that every team want to see Na'Vi' lineup to join them. Arbalet gives them 1000$ for each + their flat for free + all the money the won on tournaments. But SK will at least make them share the prizes with the organization.
2010-10-21 19:17
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#322
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Kuwait dhauz
lol gl
2010-10-21 19:19
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#324
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Sweden ZOD!
SK.markeloff /A/ SK.Edward-f0cus SK.starix /A/ SK.ceh9 P0DUH /A/ SK.Zeus /A/ /A/,/A/ AHHAHAHA
2010-10-21 19:22
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#331
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Other Mortal_Wombat
Lol miraa are you trolling wiht us?????!!!!
2010-10-21 19:49
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#332
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Russia flOy
arbalet > all sponsors and could well eye a move to an established organisation, hoping to find some stable support. HA HA HA
2010-10-21 19:57
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#334
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STYKO | 
Czech Republic massq8
NaVi is for Arbalet, what is Chealsea for Abramovic
2010-10-21 20:03
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#335
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STYKO | 
Czech Republic massq8
If SK would pick up ukrainians, they will have the strongest line up in the world...atm
2010-10-21 20:04
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#336
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Venezuela Blad.
As soon i saw the title i was like.. Apocalypse has begun! :|
2010-10-21 20:05
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#337
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Singapore Nephalith
It's no surprise SK is getting tired of walle and co's constant dramas. They want a dominant team like SK 2003, fnatic 2009, and Na`Vi 2010. Not some laid back team like their current squad. here's just a few example of the dramas so far allen : "Oh man I'm going on a vacation I can't play lolol" RobbaN : "Oh snap I ate crap today and now I got food poisoning rofl" face : "I'm moving house guys cant play GL lol." walle : "GTR is a nerd we cant fit with him socially let's kick him lololol" face : "hey guys let's take Gux in and kick kHRYSTAL for lulz" Gux : "You guys suck. I'm going back to fnatic xD" walle,RobbaN,allen,face : sadface =( walle : "face you noob it was your idea to remove kHRYSTAL!!! we were f*king winning tourneys with him until we took Gux in!!!! RAWR" (and they killed ZneeL's career along the way* obviously they don't care nor we cared much about*) I mean, it's fine if they wanna do that if they actually produce results.. but they don't. In e-Sports, the name SK-Gaming is legendary. SK don't deserve to have a CS team like this. Just like Real Madrid, they are not used to being number 2, number 3, or merely top 5 in the world.
2010-10-21 20:08
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RobbaN : "Oh snap I ate crap today and now I got food poisoning rofl" hahahaha
2010-10-21 20:12
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#349
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hariN1
you must be the joker , looser !
2010-10-21 21:32
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#351
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Singapore Nephalith
If I'm The Joker, what are you.. The Dark Knight? youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc In that case, then yeah, you > me. I lose.
2010-10-21 22:11
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#352
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Denmark nsis
hahaha +1
2010-10-21 22:35
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#339
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Armenia NEF_z
arbalet sends them to every tournament and seems like he provides them with whatever they need to practice and be the top team why would they leave him?
2010-10-21 20:16
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#344
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Ukraine inprogress
h@H@H@H@HH@H@H@H@H@H@
2010-10-21 20:58
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#348
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hariN1
no way +1 , SK is well
2010-10-21 21:30
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#353
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United States IMkiN
Since when is Arbalet NOT a stable sponsor ?
2010-10-21 23:01
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#357
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Brazil amark
yeah right and coL > EG
2010-10-22 00:23
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#362
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Russia belmondoq
Arbalet > sk Arbalet > fnatic Arbalet > all hahah :)
2010-10-22 00:36
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#366
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India nikz.mafia
Arbalet > markeloff + fallen + delpan + foxj :D
2010-10-22 07:49
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#370
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Russia B!F
u haven't seen him playing, he is not so good really
2010-10-22 10:00
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#364
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United States GunPaladin
NV has no need of an organization when they're already backed by a millionaire
2010-10-22 02:00
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#373
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SpawN | 
United Kingdom BanKs
who "could" pull out at any time :)
2010-10-22 10:35
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#372
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SpawN | 
United Kingdom BanKs
interesting, guess we will wait and see :)
2010-10-22 10:31
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#374
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Norway noddy13
Sk gaming is the only reason I have been watching cs for all these years. If this is true I will never watch a cs match again, not that anybody care. Just saying :)
2010-10-22 10:58
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SK.ua would be nice ~•~
2010-10-22 18:21
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#377
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Bahrain Jason Bourne
perfect topic for nerdragers
2010-10-23 14:43
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#381
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North Macedonia ZOKi=DDD
SK.swe SK.ua oWn1nG
2011-02-15 18:35
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